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Lochinver
01-18-2011, 14:20
http://www.scribd.com/doc/46829434/Mccarthy-Magazine-Bill




January 13, 2011
Dear Colleague:
On Tuesday, January 18, I will introduce legislation to restore the prohibition on large capacity ammunition feeding devices in the United States.
The United States Constitution guarantees to our citizens the right to keep and bear arms. At the same time that we can all acknowledge this basic right, I believe that we should also be able to come together to develop
reasonable laws designed to ensure that the right to bear arms is exercised safely and responsibly. Just as we all celebrate and defend the first amendment but also understand that practical limits must be in place, such as not
shouting, “Fire” in a crowded theater, so too should we be able to respect the second amendment while at the same time supporting commonsense regulations.


I believe there are many aspects of our nation’s gun laws that deserve close scrutiny and updating. One place that I think we should start, however, is looking at the availability of large capacity ammunition feeding
devices. This includes magazines that can hold dozens of rounds of ammunition. The only purpose for the existence of these devices is to be able to shoot as many people as possible as quickly as possible. There is no
reason that these devices should be available to the general public. The legislation that I will be introducing will prohibit the transfer, importation, or possession of high capacity
magazines manufactured after the bill is enacted. Many of these devices exist currently and it would be impractical and unwise to attempt to ban their possession – criminalizing individuals who purchased the device
legally. Instead, the bill will prohibit the transfer of those devices currently in existence. This allows individuals who currently own the devices to legally retain possession but works to prevent the spread of the
devices by making it illegal to transfer them to another individual. It is a sad fact of reality that we will never be able to prevent every instance of gun violence. We also will not
be able to keep these large capacity magazines out of the hands of every criminal who would use them. This reality, however, does not make our efforts irrelevant. Instead, it makes our efforts even more vital. The
legislation that I will introduce will reduce the available supply of these large capacity magazines, making it more difficult for individuals to acquire them. Though it will remain impossible to estimate, I believe that the
increased difficulty in obtaining these devices will reduce their use and ultimately save lives. I encourage all Members of Congress to join me in this commonsense effort to protect American families. If
you have any questions, or if you are interested in becoming a cosponsor of the bill, please contact my office.

Sincerely,
Carolyn McCarthy
Member of Congress




Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Devices Act

Summary
The Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Devices Act would put into place commonsense
restrictions on large capacity ammunition magazines. This standalone bill is largely similar to
the prohibition in place as a part of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act signed
into law in 1994.

Definition:
 The bill defines large capacity ammunition feeding devices as “a magazine, belt, drum,
feed strip, or similar device that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or
converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition” (same as the original law)
Post‐Enactment Devices

 Prohibits the transfer, possession, or import of a large capacity ammunition feeding
device manufactured after the date of enactment of this bill
Pre‐Enactment Devices
 Prohibits the transfer or import (but not possession) of large capacity ammunition
feeding devices manufactured before the date of enactment of this bill
Exemptions

 Allows for the following exemptions to the ban (identical to the original law):
o Active law enforcement
o Protection of nuclear materials
o Retired law enforcement for devices transferred to them at retirement
o Authorized testing or experimentation
Major changes from the ’94 law:
 Prohibits the importation of the devices
 Bans the transfer of devices in existence before the enactment of the bill (allows for
continued possession)
[Discussion Draft]
.................................................. ...................
(Original Signature of Member)
112TH CONGRESS
1ST SESSION H. R. ll

To prohibit the transfer or possession of large capacity ammunition feeding
devices, and for other purposes.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Mrs. MCCARTHY of New York introduced the following bill; which was
referred to the Committee on llllllllllllll


A BILL
To prohibit the transfer or possession of large capacity
ammunition feeding devices, and for other purposes.

1 Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa
2tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
3 SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
4 This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Large Capacity Ammu5
nition Feeding Device Act’’.

[Discussion Draft]
1 SEC. 2. PROHIBITION ON TRANSFER OR POSSESSION OF
2 LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DE
3VICES.
4 (a) DEFINITION.—Section 921(a) of title 18, United
5 States Code, is amended by inserting after paragraph (29)
6 the following:
7 ‘‘(30) The term ‘large capacity ammunition
8 feeding device’—
9 ‘‘(A) means a magazine, belt, drum, feed
10 strip, or similar device that has a capacity of,
11 or that can be readily restored or converted to
12 accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition;
13 but
14 ‘‘(B) does not include an attached tubular
15 device designed to accept, and capable of oper
16ating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammuni
17tion.’’.
18 (b) PROHIBITIONS.—Section 922 of such title is
19 amended by inserting after subsection (u) the following:
20 ‘‘(v)(1)(A)(i) Except as provided in clause (ii), it shall
21 be unlawful for a person to transfer or possess a large
22 capacity ammunition feeding device.
23 ‘‘(ii) Clause (i) shall not apply to the possession of
24 a large capacity ammunition feeding device otherwise law
25fully possessed within the United States on or before the
26 date of the enactment of this subsection.

[Discussion Draft]
1 ‘‘(B) It shall be unlawful for any person to import
2 or bring into the United States a large capacity ammuni
3tion feeding device.
4 ‘‘(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to—
5 ‘‘(A) a manufacture for, transfer to, or posses
6sion by the United States or a department or agency
7 of the United States or a State or a department,
8 agency, or political subdivision of a State, or a
9 transfer to or possession by a law enforcement offi
10cer employed by such an entity for purposes of law
11 enforcement (whether on or off duty);
12 ‘‘(B) a transfer to a licensee under title I of the
13 Atomic Energy Act of 1954 for purposes of estab
14lishing and maintaining an on-site physical protec
15tion system and security organization required by
16 Federal law, or possession by an employee or con
17tractor of such a licensee on-site for such purposes
18 or off-site for purposes of licensee-authorized train
19ing or transportation of nuclear materials;
20 ‘‘(C) the possession, by an individual who is re
21tired from service with a law enforcement agency
22 and is not otherwise prohibited from receiving am
23munition, of a large capacity ammunition feeding de
24vice transferred to the individual by the agency upon
25 that retirement; or

4
[Discussion Draft]
1 ‘‘(D) a manufacture, transfer, or possession of
2 a large capacity ammunition feeding device by a li
3
censed manufacturer or licensed importer for the
4 purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by
5 the Secretary.’’.
6 (c) PENALTIES.—Section 924(a) of such title is
7 amended by adding at the end the following:
8 ‘‘(8) Whoever knowingly violates section 922(v) shall
9 be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than
1010 years, or both.’’.
11 (d) IDENTIFICATION MARKINGS.—Section 923(i) of
12 such title is amended by adding at the end the following:
13 ‘‘A large capacity ammunition feeding device manufac
14tured after the date of the enactment of this sentence shall
15 be identified by a serial number that clearly shows that
16 the device was manufactured after such date of enactment,
17 and such other identification as the Secretary may by reg
18ulation prescribe.’’.

patrick0685
01-18-2011, 14:36
In the bill they say it wont stop criminals so why keep me from protecting myself...there was just a shooting in cali there 10 round law didn't stop people from getting shot

TFOGGER
01-18-2011, 14:51
IF this bill is introduced, it will die a quick, painless death in committee, and never make it to the floor of the house. McCarthy has tried this crap before, and even when the Democrackheads controlled both houses, it never made it to the floor for debate. Trying to ban the transfer of the millions of high capacity mags already in circulation would be tantamount to trying to outlaw the transfer of ceramic coffee cups....[Bang]

Blaming High capacity magazines for mass shootings it like Rosie O'Donnell blaming her fork for the enormous size of her ass...A smaller fork would likely have ended with the same result...

SA Friday
01-18-2011, 15:15
Well, there will be a mass run on high cap mags, distributors and manufacturers will make millions just like they did in 1994, and it will die on the house floor.

This dumb bitch obviously doesn't know it takes less than one second to make a mag change for someone who practices a lot. Mag capacity restrictions only sound like a good idea to those without a clue.

Her example of shouting fire and the first amendment is quite fitting, but she only gave half of the story. The other half is when there is actually a fire. The one that shouts fire and gets everyone out before there are injuries is a hero.

Dumb bitch.

funkfool
01-18-2011, 16:23
Had some hicap mags on backorder at Midway and they were out of stock at most vendors BEFORE this event...

Eldorado556
01-18-2011, 18:53
Blaming High capacity magazines for mass shootings it like Rosie O'Donnell blaming her fork for the enormous size of her ass...A smaller fork would likely have ended with the same result...
[ROFL2][ROFL2] Thanks for that.

The media never tells you about the times when mass shootings were curtailed by armed civilians.

mikedubs
01-18-2011, 20:47
But there's nothing in there about shoulder-things-that-go-up...[Shock]

jerrymrc
01-18-2011, 21:33
Blaming High capacity magazines for mass shootings it like Rosie O'Donnell blaming her fork for the enormous size of her ass...A smaller fork would likely have ended with the same result...

You know you want it. [Coffee]

Byte Stryke
01-18-2011, 21:38
Ban Barrel Shrouds now!

[LOL]

SU405
01-18-2011, 21:40
IF this bill is introduced, it will die a quick, painless death in committee, and never make it to the floor of the house. McCarthy has tried this crap before, and even when the Democrackheads controlled both houses, it never made it to the floor for debate. Trying to ban the transfer of the millions of high capacity mags already in circulation would be tantamount to trying to outlaw the transfer of ceramic coffee cups....[Bang]

Blaming High capacity magazines for mass shootings it like Rosie O'Donnell blaming her fork for the enormous size of her ass...A smaller fork would likely have ended with the same result...


[ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL1]

OMG!!! Winner winner chicken dinner!

[Beer]

newracer
01-18-2011, 22:07
I bet Rosie could swap forks faster than anyone can swap mags.

TriggerHappy
01-18-2011, 23:14
Surefire needs to hurry up on thier 100 rounders. Here is the youtube video on them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZzbPFFku0E

Sorry I forgot how to imbed.

TriggerHappy
01-18-2011, 23:15
Just think sooo much better for a drive by than those bulky Beta-mags...
[ROFL1][ROFL2]I kid, I kid!

hurley842002
01-18-2011, 23:40
Dumb bitch.

^^^ this, nuff said!

SU405
01-19-2011, 10:24
Surefire needs to hurry up on thier 100 rounders. Here is the youtube video on them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZzbPFFku0E

Sorry I forgot how to imbed.

Fuggin sweet! Damn I have been out of the loop.

Thanks... another something to spend more money on that I wont use.

BPTactical
01-19-2011, 11:20
IF this bill is introduced, it will die a quick, painless death in committee, and never make it to the floor of the house. McCarthy has tried this crap before, and even when the Democrackheads controlled both houses, it never made it to the floor for debate. Trying to ban the transfer of the millions of high capacity mags already in circulation would be tantamount to trying to outlaw the transfer of ceramic coffee cups....[Bang]

I would not be so sure. I think a mag ban is the LEAST we will see as a knee jerk reaction. One of their own was injured in this incident.
Think about it a second-right now you have 500+ elected officials that all have their ears perked up because of Tucson. I am pretty sure that a large amount of them are nervous as hell and wondering if they are next on some nutbars list. 500+ scared/nervous lawmakers are a tremendous danger to our 2A Rights.
This administration made it very clear while campaigning that an AWB is on their agenda. They have done nothing and they were waiting for the right event to trigger the execution of their agenda.
The event has occurred.
We all see the logic of the "guns don't kill, people kill" and any other number of addages regarding "the gun issue"
Blaming an inanimate object for a humans actions is an ignorant argument.
Unfortunately the ones who make the laws in this country are not coming from a logical viewpoint and are ignorant of facts.

I hope and pray I am wrong however all the pieces are in place.
It is the next move that is of question.

TFOGGER
01-19-2011, 11:44
Those same scared lawmakers are also thinking about keeping their jobs come next election. Hopefully, they will remember that the voters are very tired of eastern politicians stomping on their rights, spending their grandkid's paychecks, and generally being elitist autocrats. A gun grab at this time would not be interpreted by the public as a measure to increase security, it would be viewed as another assault on our rights. Until American Idol comes on, then the sheeple will lose interest. Oooooh, a puppy........

hollohas
01-19-2011, 13:16
This dumb bitch obviously doesn't know it takes less than one second to make a mag change for someone who practices a lot. Mag capacity restrictions only sound like a good idea to those without a clue.



They already thought of that. Saw one male Dem on TV just after the shooting in Tucson that said he thought all firearms "that could be reloaded" should be illegal...:confused:

So all of them is what he meant to say.

Mobat555
01-20-2011, 08:56
Listening to an interview w/ Texas Congressman Lamar Smith (R), Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. He said that any of these gun control measures would not have prevented the Tuscon shooting and none of the gun control legislation will make it out of his committee. Any such measures have to pass his committee.

A small victory for freedom.

BPTactical
01-20-2011, 11:15
Listening to an interview w/ Texas Congressman Lamar Smith (R), Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. He said that any of these gun control measures would not have prevented the Tuscon shooting and none of the gun control legislation will make it out of his committee. Any such measures have to pass his committee.

A small victory for freedom.

We can only hope this is the case. If it pans out as stated it will be one of the few times government and common sense coincide.

hurley842002
01-20-2011, 12:58
Listening to an interview w/ Texas Congressman Lamar Smith (R), Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. He said that any of these gun control measures would not have prevented the Tuscon shooting and none of the gun control legislation will make it out of his committee. Any such measures have to pass his committee.

A small victory for freedom.

Fingers crossed!

Lochinver
01-21-2011, 12:17
It's officially H.R. 308 now.


http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.308:

Byte Stryke
01-21-2011, 12:48
"We the People" need to file a lawsuit against the congress of the united states for Fraud and misappropriation of funds.

Wasting time, Money and effort on something they know will not work.

BPTactical
01-21-2011, 15:41
Did you note any of the Bills co-sponsors? Classic anti's including our lovely Ms DeGette

TFOGGER
01-21-2011, 16:42
Did you note any of the Bills co-sponsors? Classic anti's including our lovely Ms DeGette

Someone needs to beat her with a baby seal.....except I LIKE baby seals....

Byte Stryke
01-21-2011, 17:12
Someone needs to beat her with a baby seal.....except I LIKE baby seals....

[ROFL1]