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Gunner
01-23-2011, 21:12
Watching an episode on NBC about people saying their 700s going off with out touching the trigger. Any know anything about this.

TriggerHappy
01-23-2011, 21:14
I watched the same show. Interesting, but I would still own several remmy 700's.

Byte Stryke
01-23-2011, 21:15
Watching an episode on NBC about people saying their 700s going off with out touching the trigger. Any know anything about this.


Check Remington's site.
They duplicated it by setting the pull weight on the trigger to an unsafe level and performing unsafe modifications as seen in the videos.

Sixgun
01-23-2011, 21:17
I've heard about this.
So may 700s out there, I'm callin BS.

gcrookston
01-23-2011, 21:46
I've owned several over the years and adjusted/worked on the triggers. I've also seen and fixed a few that were messed up by those that didn't know what they were doing. But I've never seen one with a hair trigger that wasn't the result of 'tampering' (although some may claim 'tuning' and 'tampering' are not the same).

Troublco
01-23-2011, 21:54
This has to be the same old thing that gets resurrected periodically. My Remmys are all fine, never had a problem. But if I'm going to do something to the trigger on one, I just take the factory unit off and put a Timney, Jewell, or Rifle Basix in it.

Drilldov2.0
01-23-2011, 22:06
Bunch of damn jedi's out there nowadays...

rellik74
01-23-2011, 22:28
Its been going around for 15 or 20 years now

theGinsue
01-23-2011, 22:33
Yup. This had been reported for many years and (as Byte & TroublCo pointed out), it's always been the result of mod'ing the firearm from it's factory state.

Let's face it though. With the sheer # of 700's out there, and the types of folks I've met with 700's while out hunting, I can certainly imagine these getting "adjusted" by/for the owners an the owners never fessing up to the fact that something THEY did might have been the cause.

Byte Stryke
01-23-2011, 22:36
Personally I think "adjusting" or "modifying" your weapon outside of tolerance so much as to create such an unsafe condition is irresponsible.

and the panic starved, fear mongering media is just as irresponsible for misleading the public and creating the storm.
I Compare it to screaming "fire!" in a crowded theater.

just my 2 cents on it

mx'r
01-23-2011, 22:55
Old news. This has been happening for many years. Close bolt and BANG!

banks74
01-23-2011, 22:56
I think it is a bunch of crap as well. My buddies and I have owned many 700's. Only one fired when taking the safety off. It only happened once. The previous owner had messed with the trigger and set the poundage ridiculously light.

cowboykjohnson
01-23-2011, 23:01
I've got the trigger extremely light on my 700p, but you can throw the rifle on the ground with all you got and it wont go bang.

flan7211
01-23-2011, 23:46
Don't modify such a mainstream weapon. No reason for it. I've owned a bunch of 700's never had a problem.

theGinsue
01-24-2011, 00:26
I Compare it to screaming "fire!" in a crowded theater.

Or even yelling movie in a crowded fire house.

Pure insanity!

Byte Stryke
01-24-2011, 00:28
Or even yelling movie in a crowded fire house.

Pure insanity!

Next shoot, I owe you a "Gibbs Slap"

remind me...

[ROFL1]

sniper7
01-24-2011, 01:07
they tried to mess with it is why. probably hat it set nicely but never locktited (real word?) the screw and it loosened up and no goes off with ease.

I worked mine down to about 3.5 lbs and that is as light as I would want to get it. I could maybe get a little more out of it but too much at a buttstock strike hard on the ground would set it off. don't need that in a hunting rifle.

BPTactical
01-24-2011, 06:56
All the more reason to like a Savage[Muaha]
Cost's less.
Better out of the box product.
Cheaper to accurize.
Goes "Boom" when you want it to.

As others noted a well documented problem. Usually the result of kitchen table Gunplumbing. Sear angles must be observed and that is why sear jigs are essential when doing trigger work. As brought up before you are better off just dropping in a Jard, Rifle Basix etc. trigger in it.
They will also fire unintentionally if the rifle is poorly maintained, this was the case with the 700 I dealt with recently. Debris build up in the safety mechanism did not allow it to engage completely.

hollohas
01-24-2011, 11:26
Watched the show. Thought it was a little over the top.

-Lady shoots her kid through a horse trailer = Gun pointed in a unsafe direction.

-Someone shoots friend while showing them the rifle at home = Gun loaded at home and pointed in unsafe direction.

-Guy shoots himself in the foot = gun pointed in unsafe direction

-some guys dressed in camo (the show said they were police...I don't think so), video cuts into them touching the bolt and gun fires. If you look closely it is after he pulls the trigger. Lag fire, bad reloads or dirty firing pin that doesn't drop when trigger is pulled but breaks free when bolt is touched.

This is why there are gun safety rules. The show tries to say that Remington invented the rules as a result of this "problem"...uh huh...

With so many rifles out there, some people are bound to shoot each other with them.

funkfool
01-24-2011, 11:49
Good article on this at "The Gun Nut" here:
Petzal: CNBC’s Remington 700 Trigger Coverage A Clean Miss (http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/hunting/2010/10/petzal-different-look-remington-model-700-trigger)

Byte Stryke
01-24-2011, 11:59
Remington's Response

http://www.remington700.tv/#/home