View Full Version : All these cops getting shot...
ghettodub
01-24-2011, 22:05
Sad stuff man
http://www.examiner.com/people-the-news-in-national/11-officers-shot-24-hours-police-union-spokesman-says-war-on-cops
It has been only 24 hours since at least 11 police officers have been shot across the nation
Continue reading on Examiner.com: 11 officers shot in 24 hours: Police union spokesman says “war on cops” - National People in the News | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/people-the-news-in-national/11-officers-shot-24-hours-police-union-spokesman-says-war-on-cops#ixzz1C15YE6ig
Sounds like it is about the same amount of police shootings as last year.
keep the people down and those in the enforcement will be the hardest hit. people are also probably losing it due to no job, no money, poor economy, rising prices due to inflation, anger at the .gov, anger at the world, personal issues like divorces due to the economic situation etc etc.
people finally lose it when it becomes too much. it is very sad the cops are getting shot and being the first line of defense.
Bailey Guns
01-24-2011, 23:29
Sad stuff man
I think what's even more sad is there are some, right here on this forum, that won't see it that way.
theGinsue
01-24-2011, 23:32
Agreed Bailey!
I hope you don't mean me Bailey. None of those cops were doing anything other than their jobs. Nothing wrong with a road side stop.
ChunkyMonkey
01-24-2011, 23:51
Rest in peace and prayers to the family. This is bad for everyone!
Yeah, there isn't a thing good about any of this. Its just sad stuff
Bailey Guns
01-25-2011, 06:27
I hope you don't mean me Bailey. None of those cops were doing anything other than their jobs. Nothing wrong with a road side stop.
No. Perhaps my comment was a little over the top. I just find some of the things said here recently about law enforcement officers to be a little disturbing.
2ndChildhood
01-25-2011, 06:39
Also sad is what happened in Camden NJ,
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2011/01/camden-nj-police-union-rejects-offer-to.html
The Fraternal Order of Police in Camden New Jersey proved without a shadow of a doubt, public union willingness to toss fellow officers to the dogs.
In a 300-1 vote, the union rejected an offer that that would have saved 100 jobs. That offer called for three days a month of unpaid furloughs for patrol officers for six months, then one furlough day in each of the following 12 months.
I'd have to have a damn strong reason to toss away 100 of my brethren like that. I know I could live with that kind of furlough without huge problems
I think what's even more sad is there are some, right here on this forum, that won't see it that way.
I agree. I see the behavior you are talking about on a couple of other forums too.
As to the officers getting shot - I think it is an infantile temper tantrum directly at whomever in authority shows up. It is another reflection of our entitlement society.
Also sad is what happened in Camden NJ,
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2011/01/camden-nj-police-union-rejects-offer-to.html
I'd have to have a damn strong reason to toss away 100 of my brethren like that. I know I could live with that kind of furlough without huge problems
That is amazing, they sacrificed their fellow officers and the public safety for their pensions. I hope this is an isolated incident.
Gov. Chris Christie - http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local/nj/20110125_Christie_says_Camden_layoffs_illustrate_b enefits_woes.html
Also sad is what happened in Camden NJ,
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2011/01/camden-nj-police-union-rejects-offer-to.html
I'd have to have a damn strong reason to toss away 100 of my brethren like that. I know I could live with that kind of furlough without huge problems
Can't say I'm amazed at all.
I've worked for two union entities, one a construction company and one IAFF, in both cases I didn't/wouldn't join. The unions like to claim brotherhood and such, but it sure seemed to me they were purely focused on making more money for those in for the longest already.
Byte Stryke
01-25-2011, 10:07
Also sad is what happened in Camden NJ,
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2011/01/camden-nj-police-union-rejects-offer-to.html
The Fraternal Order of Police in Camden New Jersey proved without a shadow of a doubt, public union willingness to toss fellow officers to the dogs.
In a 300-1 vote, the union rejected an offer that that would have saved 100 jobs. That offer called for three days a month of unpaid furloughs for patrol officers for six months, then one furlough day in each of the following 12 months.
I'd have to have a damn strong reason to toss away 100 of my brethren like that. I know I could live with that kind of furlough without huge problems
Well I do see some political spin in this, I am sure Madam Mayor could have taken a small pay cut and saved a job or two as well.
Of course they fat at the top prefers you not hear about or consider this.
This is truly sad and frightening. I think OneGuy67 hit the nail on the head: Police officers are the public face of the government, and when public anger with the government boils over, the police are going to take the brunt of it.
My condolences to the families and friends of those that were lost.
Zundfolge
01-25-2011, 10:22
We often confuse increased media coverage with an increase in the actual activity (remember, according to Gallop 75% of the population believes that crime rates are going UP when in fact they are going down and have been steadily falling since the early 70s).
So are more cops being shot? Or are more stories about cops being shot making it on air?
CrufflerSteve
01-25-2011, 10:45
One way to deal with this is to try to cool things off. A no knock entry is dangerous for everybody. An officer has to go in fully pumped up and has a fraction of a second to decide to shoot or not shoot. That is really bad since people aren't perfect and mistakes happen. If these are only given for hostage rescue it will avoid the issue.
One example is high speed chases. Years ago they were quite common. This led to crashes that killed officers and innocent civilians. The rules for this was tightened up and with better radio communication and devices like those strips that shred tires it became much less deadly.
People got outraged because a (relatively) innocent man was shot in a no knock raid. It's like the joke where someone tells his doctor: "It hurts when I do this." The doctor says, "Well don't do that."
Steve
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