Seal The F@#$%*g Borders!!

[Colorado Luckydog]

Makes me want to puke!!

http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=178033&catid=339

[BPTactical]

Sadly, this comes as no surprise.

[Mtn.man]

It is too lucrative for our gov in their "wars" on certain things to close the borders.

[Bailey Guns]

Meh...just another day in one of our wonderful sanctuary cities.

[Byte Stryke]

There is no money in Curing the Disease, only treating the symptoms.

If we do not have the populace cowering in fear of any little boogey-men we happen to be over-exposing on mainstream media, how can we justify the tax hikes?



Edit:
Why is no one writing a bill to ban Chevy trucks?
It's a travesty! Think of the chiwdwens!
Ban Trucks now... he would not have killed him if he was in a golf cart!

[theGinsue]

The crime and other associated problems created by illegal immigrants is not the problem of the Federal government - it's up to the state and local governments to clean up those messes.

On the other hand, the Fed's get any and all advantages of the illegals (whatever they may be).

For them (Fed's), it's a win-win. Why would they bother to change that? (ETA: See Byte's response above - same concept, different words)

[spyder]

The crime and other associated problems created by illegal immigrants is not the problem of the Federal government - it's up to the state and local governments to clean up those messes.

On the other hand, the Fed's get any and all advantages of the illegals (whatever they may be).

For them (Fed's), it's a win-win. Why would they bother to change that? (ETA: See Byte's response above - same concept, different words)
U confused me... Bytes was easier to understand... [ROFL1]
It is kinda like curing cancer, can they do it? Yes. Are they going to? No. Why? There is no money in curing the problem.

[Byte Stryke]

If I Sold you a Pill for $20(cheap for most) x 365 days a year and you took it for (only)30 years it would total $219,000

That's a single person

Multiply that.


Same method the .gov uses

"but Mr. Citizen, we are only raising your Taxes 1% per anum per person."

[ChunkyMonkey]

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/26628310/detail.html

They caught the criminal... They'll probably allow him to choose voluntary deportation and the DA will act all P.O. like the last one did.

[Byte Stryke]

It appears he returned to the United States illegally.


Holy Shit
Really?
That's our tax dollars at work.

Butt-Plug probably has a Doctorate in Criminology or something.

[BigBear]

...It is kinda like curing cancer, can they do it? Yes. Are they going to? No. Why? There is no money in curing the problem.


And THAT is the true bottom line. It's all about the money.

[Zundfolge]

Need to close the border BOTH WAYS.

U8orb-WetQE

Stop Mexicans from coming here illegally and stop Americans from going down there (with their dollars) legally.

[sniper7]

no surprise, still pisses me off. these idiots need to make changes.

I hope the house brings this up soon. I wish Arizona was getting some more press and other states would start to follow suit.

[Jer]

no surprise, still pisses me off. these idiots need to make changes.

I hope the house brings this up soon. I wish Arizona was getting some more press and other states would start to follow suit.

Well, since Obama addressed illegal immigrants as a talking point in his SotUA we all know that means it will be addressed and solved probably this week yet. Hang tight!

Needless to say I was pretty pissed off when I heard about this latest story. We all had a long discussion at dinner last night about how we're the only country that does this. Most other countries have more strict laws & when we travel to those countries we abide by these laws. No American assumes if you break them you'll get a free ride home w/o any punishment. So why do we do this?

[Bailey Guns]

Here's some more good news:

A book that celebrates suicide bombers (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/27/iranian-book-celebrating-suicide-bombers-arizona-desert/) found north of US/Mexico border.

A Muslim cleric (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/26/report-muslim-cleric-arrested-border-agents/) illegally in the country after being deported from Canada arrested near San Diego.

Sealing the borders now may be too little, too late. Not saying it doesn't need to be done...it simply should've been done a long time ago. Tomorrow we're going to pay a high cost in the blood of our citizens for our failure secure our borders yesterday.

[TFOGGER]

Latest:

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_17217089



Montes-Garcia could face federal felony charges of illegally entering the U.S. in violation of a deportation order.
In 2007, he was arrested in Alamosa County for driving without a license, unlawful display of license plates and drug possession. He received a two- year sentence and was turned over to the Department of Corrections in October 2007, said DOC spokeswoman Katherine Sanguinetti.
He was transferred to federal immigration authorities on Jan. 2, 2008, she said.


WTF? He serves less than 4 months of a 2 year sentence, then gets deported? Twice? And still ends up living in Denver? [Bang][Rant2]

[Colorado Luckydog]

If the American public really knew how much of this was going on, there would be a revolution. That would include most of the legal Mexicans that live here. They are fed up with this shit too.

[waxthis]

And THAT is the true bottom line. It's all about the money.


Or about the Hierarchy of the elected officials in this country. No disrespect intended, but why does Loughner get charged first with the attempted assassination of Rep Gabrielle Gifford’s, and not the murder of six citizens? Kind of reminds me of Orson Wells "Animal Farm." “All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal the others.”.............Just saying...[Peep]

[Paladin]

This is from an e-mail Ireceived yesterday; its quite informative.




To Quote Billy Graham
"Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point."


Missouri has no illegals, go figure......


Missouri has NO illegal Aliens....(THIS IS TRUE) Interesting: SCROLL
TO BOTTOM TO VISIT IMPORTANT CONFIRMATION LINK AND AWESOME
COMMENTS!!!

Missouri's approach to the problem of illegal immigration appears to
be more advanced, sophisticated, strict, and effective than anything
to date in Arizona. Do the loonies in San Francisco, or the White
House, appreciate what Missouri has done? When are our fearless
President and his dynamic Attorney General going to take action to
require Missouri start accepting illegal immigrants once again? So,
why doesn't Missouri receive attention?

Answer: There are no Mexican illegals in Missouri to demonstrate.

The "Show Me" state has once again shown us how it should be done.
There needs to be more publicity and exposure regarding what Missouri
has done. Let's pass it around.

In 2007, Missouri placed on the ballot a proposed constitutional
amendment designating English as the official language of Missouri.
In November, 2008, nearly 90% voted in favor! Thus English became the
official language for ALL governmental activity in Missouri. No
individual has the right to demand government services in a language
OTHER than English.

In 2008, a measure was passed that required the Missouri Highway
Patrol and other law enforcement officials to verify the immigration
status of any person arrested, and inform federal authorities if the
person is found to be in Missouri illegally. Missouri law enforcement
offices receive specific training with respect to enforcement of
federal immigration laws.

In Missouri, illegal immigrants do NOT have access to taxpayers
benefits such as food stamps and health care through Missouri
HealthNET.

In 2009, a measure was passed that ensures Missouri's public
institutions of higher education do NOT award financial aid to
individuals who are illegally in the United States. In Missouri, all
post-secondary institutions of higher education annually certify to
the Missouri Dept. of Higher Education that they have NOT knowingly
awarded financial aid to students who are unlawfully present in the
United States.

So while Arizona has made national news for its new law, it is
important to remember, Missouri has been far more proactive in
addressing this horrific problem. Missouri has made it clear that
illegal immigrants are NOT welcome in the state and they will
certainly NOT receive public benefits at the expense of Missouri
taxpayers.

DON'T JUST DELETE THIS AMERICA... KEEP IT GOING UNTIL WE GET ALL
50 STATES TO COMPLY!!!

Here is the link to confirm: Be sure to read the readers comments,
too.
http://www.ozarkssentinel.com/missouri-ahead-of-the-game-in-dealing-with-illegal-immigrants-p1034.htm

Taken from "The Ozarks Sentinel" Editorial - Nita Jane Ayres, May 13,
2010. If the link does not work, just type in "The Ozarks Sentinel -
Nita Jane Ayres" in Google.

[spittoon]

how can america be so blind[Rant2]

[rockhound]

and our legislature is trying to pass another bill to allow illegals to have in state tuition they have voted it down eight times. leave it alone, they left just keep coming back again and again hoping we will be asleep at the switch just enough to sneak shit by us.

i for one am fed up with all of it. how many dead citizens does it take before we will say no.

i can think of at least ten people in this state alone that in recent history that have been shot, run over or by some other means killed by an illegal

i understand the illegals are quickly becoming th majority of the population in our prisons.

i thought they just came here to work hard and get ahead in life.

maybe our jails should be more uncomfortable like the ones they have at home. then they will have to go somewhere else to get 3 hots and a cot.

[BPTactical]

how can america be so blind[Rant2]

America is not













Unfortunately it's leadership pretends to be

[Geology Rocks]

They just said on the news that 2 of the people involved in this are here illegally. great! The mentality that here in the USA we are better than that, and we will not resort to punishment, cruelty, or not allowing you to break the law is ridiculous. Things need to change. we need to pull our head out of our asses and man up and start cracking skulls.

joe

[palepainter]

To make things worse in Colorado, an initiative to have all those who register to vote provide identification and status of legal residency was shot down. So... now you do not even have to provide proof of citizenship to vote in CO. Thank you Mr Dickinpooper for that.

[sniper7]

I was thinking this over and I think hickenlooper should let this guy live with him and his wife in the governors mansion.

[theGinsue]

I don't think there's really a solution to this problm that will ever get implemented unless more like minded individuals get into politics directly to make the common sense changes that need to be made.

If I thought I had a snowballs chance to get elected, I'd be willing to run for state office. But, alas, I'd never get past the polls with my political values.

[clublights]

I found this from 2006. pened by a retired Border Patrol Agent.


Dear Senator Frist:

There is a huge amount of propaganda and myths circulating about illegal aliens, particularly illegal Mexican, Salvadorian, Guatemalan and Honduran aliens.

1. Illegal aliens generally do NOT want U.S. citizenship. Americans are very vain thinking that everybody in the world wants to be a U.S. citizen. Mexicans, and other nationalities want to remain citizens of their home countries while obtaining the benefits offered by the United States such as employment, medical care, in-state tuition, government subsidized housing and free education for their offspring. Their main attraction is employment and their loyalty usually remains at home. They want benefits earned and subsidized by middle class Americans. What illegal aliens want are benefits of American residence without paying the price.

2. There are no jobs that Americans won't do. Illegal aliens are doing jobs that Americans can't take and still support their families. Illegal aliens take low wage jobs, live dozens in a single residence home, share expenses and send money to their home country. There are no jobs that Americans won't do for a decent wage.

3. Every person who illegally entered this nation left a home. They are NOT homeless and they are NOT Americans. Some left jobs in their home countries. They come to send money to their real home as evidenced by the more than 20 billion dollars sent out of the country each year by illegal aliens. These illegal aliens knowingly and willfully entered this nation in violation of the law and therefore assumed the risk of detection and deportation. Those who brought their alien children assumed the responsibility and risk on behalf of their children.

4. Illegal aliens are NOT critical to the economy. Illegal aliens constitute less than 5% of the workforce. However, they reduce wages and benefits for lawful U.S. residents.

5. This is NOT an immigrant nation. There are 280 million native born Americans. While it is true that this nation was settled and founded by immigrants (legal immigrants), it is also true that there is not a nation on this planet that was not settled by immigrants at one time or another.

6. The United States is welcoming to legal immigrants. Illegal aliens are not immigrants by definition. The U.S. accepts more lawful immigrants every year than the rest of the world combined.

7. There is no such thing as the "Hispanic vote". Hispanics are white, brown, black and every shade in between. Hispanics are Repu blicans, Democrats, Anarchists, Communists, Marxists and Independents. The so-called "Hispanic vote" is a myth. Pandering to illegal aliens to get the Hispanic vote is a dead end.

8. Mexico is NOT a friend of the United States. Since 1848 Mexicans have resented the United States. During World War I Mexico allowed German Spies to operate freely in Mexico to spy on the U.S. During World War II Mexico allowed the Axis powers to spy on the U.S. from Mexico. During the Cold War Mexico allowed spies hostile to the U.S. to operate freely. The attack on the Twin Towers in 2001 was cheered and applauded all across Mexico. Today Mexican school children are taught that the U.S. stole California, Arizona, new Mexico and Texas. If you don't believe it, check out some Mexican textbooks written for their schoolchildren.

9. Although some illegal aliens enter this country for a better life, there are 6 billion people on this planet. At least 1 billion of those live on less than one dollar a day. If wanting a better life is a valid excuse to break the law and sneak into America, then let's allow those one billion to come to America and we'll turn the USA into a Third World nation overnight. Besides, there are 280 million native born Americans who want a better life. I'll bet Bill Gates and Donald Trump want a better life. When will the USA lifeboat be full? Since when is wanting a better life a good reason to trash another nation?

10. There is a labor shortage in this country. This is a lie. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of American housewives, senior citizens, students, unemployed and underemployed who would gladly take jobs at a decent wage.

11. It is racist to want secure borders. What is racist about wanting secure borders and a secure America? What is racist about not wanting people to sneak into America and steal benefits we have set aside for legal aliens, senior citizens, children and other legal residents? What is it about race that entitles people to violate our laws, steal identities, and take the American Dream without paying the price?

For about four decades American politicians have refused to secure our borders and look after the welfare of middle class Americans. These politicians have been of both parties. A huge debt to American society has resulted. This debt will be satisfied and the interest will be high. There has already been riots in the streets by illegal aliens and their supporters. There will be more. You, as a politician, have a choice to offend the illegal aliens who have stolen into this country and demanded the rights afforded to U.S. citizens or to offend those of us who are stakeholders in this country. The interest will be steep either way. There will be civil unrest. There will be a reckoning. Do you have the courage to do what is right for America? Or, will you bow to the wants and needs of those who don't even have the right to remain here?

There will be a reckoning. It will come in November of this year, again in 2008 and yet again in 2010.

We will not allow America to be stolen by third world agitators and thieves.

David J. Stoddard
U.S. Border Patrol (RET)
Hereford, Arizona

Here is testimony from him to the senate in 2002



TESTIMONY OF DAVID J. STODDARD, SUBMITTED TO U.S. SUBCOMMITTEE ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE, DRUG POLICY AND HUMAN RESOURCES, REPRESENTATIVE MARK SOUDER, CHAIRMAN.

February 22, 2002

Sirs:

My name is David J. Stoddard; I am a resident of Cochise County, Arizona. I served my country for 30 years, first as a soldier in the U.S. Army and then as U.S. Border Patrol Agent for 27 years.

I have no personal interest in illegal immigration or in U.S. drug policy except as a patriotic citizen of the United States. I am not being paid or influenced by any entity whatsoever for my testimony submitted to you this day.

There has been a great deal of debate recently over needed changes in U.S. Immigration Law. The United States has the most liberal immigration policies in the entire world. Our laws are designed to protect the American public from criminals, subversives, terrorists, disease, the insane and from those who are likely to become public charges. There are no U.S. laws designed specifically to exclude any deserving person from legally immigrating to the United States. Any person may legally immigrate unless he or she falls within an excludable class. This is for the public good. If existing laws were enforced as intended, there would be no need for new laws.

Currently the United States admits more people as immigrants, refugees and asylum seekers than all the other countries in the world combined. Right now one-fifth of the U.S. population is a foreign born or dependant child of foreign born residents. Since the 2000 Census, the population of the United States has increased by 3 million people according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

According to various Mexican media and official Mexican government sources, the country of Mexico has 18 million of its citizens residing illegally in the United States at this very minute. Mexico claims to have 30 million persons of Mexican descent in the United States. I have no reason not to believe these claims.

According to official U.S. I. & N.S. estimates, Mexicans comprise only 54% of the total number of illegal aliens within the United States. Again, I have no reason to dispute these figures. I hope this gives you some kind of perspective as to the great influence illegal immigration has upon our society.

Since I have lived and worked on the Mexican border all of my life, I am most familiar with the problems presented by illegal Mexican immigration and I would like to focus on that aspect.

- According to former Chief of Police, Ruben Ortega, 80% of the street level drug dealers in Salt Lake City, Utah are illegal Mexican Aliens. I believe we can extrapolate that percentage to any major city in the Southwest.

- According to the U.S. Bureau of Prisons, 24% of those incarcerated in the United States are foreign born, most of them Mexicans.

- According to the California State authorities, that state must build the equivalent of one grammar school a day in order to accommodate the population growth of school aged children, again, largely due to illegal immigrants, most of whom are illegal Mexicans.

I submit to you that Mexico has instituted policies which encourage its citizens to sneak into the United States.

For example:

- Mexico has discontinued the government subsidies for propane, diesel, tortillas, beans, electricity, housing, bread and commodities for poor people.

- Mexico has opened additional consulates in practically every state in the union in order to assist its citizens obtain U.S. benefits, "rights" and to assure legal help in the instances of "discrimination" in employment, law enforcement and in any other legal matter.

- Lawyers retained at the behest of Mexican officials quickly take civil action against any U.S. citizen who chooses to protect himself or his property against illegal Mexicans. This is designed to deter any interference by U.S. residents in the free flow of aliens and drugs across our borders.

- Mexican school children, from the primary grades, are taught that the United States "stole" (from Mexico) the land now called California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado and Utah. Furthermore, these children are taught that were it not for the United States "stealing" California and the gold therein, that Mexico would be a superpower today. I have heard that with my own ears. That is no exaggeration.

- The President of Mexico actively encourages its citizens to illegally emigrate to the U.S. and in fact frequently refers to those who do so as "heroes".

- I can give you the names of eight high-level Mexican politicians who have left office in the last decade with a minimum of $700 million each. These ill-gotten funds could have been used for the good of the Mexican people.

Based on the above facts, I see no reason for any change in U.S. immigration laws. But I see a great need for change in the way Mexico imposes upon the United States. The American people are expected to provide free medical care, housing, education, food and other basic needs to illegal Mexican aliens. These are all services that should be provided to our own elderly, handicapped and poor.

I do see a need to alter the way in which the United States administers its immigration laws however.

Currently the same administrator dictates enforcement and services. Under Doris Meissner, the INS became a service-oriented organization because Ms. Meissner considered all aliens, legal and illegal as her "clients". Enforcement under the U.S. Border Patrol became non-existent except for a narrow corridor along the border. This encouraged illegal aliens to keep trying until they were successful in traversing that corridor beyond which they could live and reside as long as they wish and do whatever they want, while the services branch of INS does everything it can to make their status legal. This status quo has not changed under INS Commissioner James Ziglar.

This is a schizophrenic approach, which does not, never has and never will work. The INS must be separated into two agencies, one to provide services and the other for enforcement purposes. The U.S. Border Patrol must be allowed to do its job in strict accordance to the law without regard to political correctness and without regard to state, city and local boundaries. This is the only way we can remain a sovereign nation. We cannot allow a foreign nation to dictate our immigration policy, which is the current standard. Either an alien has legally entered the United States or he has not. The legal alien is entitled to benefits and services. The others are not.

Every single person who has sneaked into this country made an informed decision to violate the laws of this country and has accepted the risk of detection and deportation. None of them should be allowed to reside in the U.S. without first exiting and making a legal application for entry in order to screen for criminals, the insane, subversives, terrorists and disease.

The U.S. Border Patrol simply cannot handle its mission under present restraints. Its job is to protect the American public and preserve the sanctity of our international borders. That cannot be accomplished while our borders are overrun by aliens of every nationality and while bureaucrats place unreasonable restrictions on how agents operate.

- I urge the immediate deployment of U.S. military troops and equipment on our borders to seal them against those who would cause us harm. This could be only a temporary measure to allow us to regain control to again become a sovereign nation.

- I urge the separation of the U.S. Border Patrol into a separate agency responsible for the detection, interdiction, arrest, prosecution and/or deportation of drug smugglers and illegal aliens. An experienced enforcement officer whose primary purpose is to protect America and American citizens must run this separate agency. That separate agency must have its own budget and control its own spending. This would assure that the law enforcement agency doesn't have to dance like a puppet at the whim of a non-law enforcement entity with an agenda of its own operating the purse strings. A professional law enforcement agency must be in total control of enforcement, (with Attorney General and Congressional oversight, of course), or political special interests will exercise undue influence as has been the case with the Border Patrol for the last 78 years.

I realize I cannot be more specific and detailed due to time restraints, so I respectfully submit this to you at this time.

Sincerely,
David J. Stoddard

From snopes as all true..

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/borderpatrol.asp