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Mtn.man
01-26-2011, 18:40
Just heard the idiot Katy commy say that Obama didn't mention anything about gun violence or when he plans to address this in his speech last night, she even asked the WH spokesman when he plans too. WTF she's a POS[Rant1]

theGinsue
01-26-2011, 18:48
She and others like her make their living off of sensationalizing everything.

It wouldn't be nearly as sensational to address the problem of the CRIMINALS, but there are News Emmy's to be won by sensationalizing the tools the criminals use (so long as it's a firearm, anything else doesn't count...vehicles, knives, pipes, baseball bats, etc.)

Byte Stryke
01-26-2011, 18:56
Just heard the idiot Katy commy say that Obama didn't mention anything about gun violence or when he plans to address this in his speech last night, she even asked the WH spokesman when he plans too. WTF she's a POS[Rant1]

Let's address drunk / irresponsible driving first.
Lets have a 6 month waiting period to buy a car.
Make classes mandatory, no more "Mom and Dad taught me"
Outlaw texting and driving as well as not using a hands free device while talking.
Let's make every unbuckled child in a car a felony child neglect charge with a mandatory 60 year Sentence in a state facility with no chance of parole. Because, you know, we are trying to save the children.
Let's remove double standards between citizens and "public servants." If I Shoot someone, I go to jail without pay...
Let's start executing revolving door DUIs, you know the guy, No License, no Insurance, but he hops in his car after 4 DUIs all loaded up on Boone's farm and goes racing around town like its friggin' Mario Cart with no regard for the lives of others.

Let's address the REAL injustices instead of just the ones the media would like to sensationalize and vilify.


Screw Katy and all of the other self serving talking heads with an HIV, Syphilis, Gonorrhea, Herpes and HPV infested transvestite.
Let them all rot.
[Mad]

StagLefty
01-26-2011, 19:05
On another forum there seems to be a rumor going around that BO is going to be addressing some sort of gun control in the near future ???
Anyone else hear this ?

TFOGGER
01-26-2011, 19:06
Don't hold back, Byte...tell us how you REALLY feel....

Byte Stryke
01-26-2011, 19:07
On another forum there seems to be a rumor going around that BO is going to be addressing some sort of gun control in the near future ???
Anyone else hear this ?


Boat's ready

theGinsue
01-26-2011, 19:09
On another forum there seems to be a rumor going around that BO is going to be addressing some sort of gun control in the near future ???
Anyone else hear this ?

Haven't heard about it, but I've been waiting for it. Surprised he didn't try to push it during the lame duck session; would have been easier for him.

ruthabagah
01-26-2011, 19:27
Let's address drunk / irresponsible driving first.
Lets have a 6 month waiting period to buy a car.
Make classes mandatory, no more "Mom and Dad taught me"
Outlaw texting and driving as well as not using a hands free device while talking.
Let's make every unbuckled child in a car a felony child neglect charge with a mandatory 60 year Sentence in a state facility with no chance of parole. Because, you know, we are trying to save the children.
Let's remove double standards between citizens and "public servants." If I Shoot someone, I go to jail without pay...
Let's start executing revolving door DUIs, you know the guy, No License, no Insurance, but he hops in his car after 4 DUIs all loaded up on Boone's farm and goes racing around town like its friggin' Mario Cart with no regard for the lives of others.

Let's address the REAL injustices instead of just the ones the media would like to sensationalize and vilify.


Screw Katy and all of the other self serving talking heads with an HIV, Syphilis, Gonorrhea, Herpes and HPV infested transvestite.
Let them all rot.
[Mad]

Byte for president! Serious.

ChunkyMonkey
01-26-2011, 19:56
Clinton lost the congress due to the ban on his first term. Obama needs all the help for his 2nd term run - if anything, he'll jam it through once he secured that 2nd term.

CrufflerSteve
01-26-2011, 20:30
I doubt if Obama will do anything until his second term and I don't see anything direct.

The anti's figured out there are other ways. Lead is icky-poo so ban lead ammo and shut down ranges. Make ammo really expensive. I'd expect some executive orders along those lines. Maybe some to cut down on imports.

A lot of the anti's aren't totally opposed to guns. They just don't think poor people should have guns.

Steve

TFOGGER
01-26-2011, 20:35
I doubt if Obama will do anything until his second term and I don't see anything direct.

The anti's figured out there are other ways. Lead is icky-poo so ban lead ammo and shut down ranges. Make ammo really expensive. I'd expect some executive orders along those lines. Maybe some to cut down on imports.

A lot of the anti's aren't totally opposed to guns. They just don't think poor people should have guns.

Steve

More accurately, they don't think you should be able to be rich AND have guns, so they'll either take all of your guns, or all of your money. Redistribute the wealth.

Scanker19
01-26-2011, 21:25
Ice Cube once said "ya know I spell girl with a B"

I think that fits here.

sniper7
01-26-2011, 22:18
i don't see any gun bills coming out. not with the political unrest going on right now. not with the healthcare, deficit and everything else going on, plus they are not voting on the filibuster change. house will shut down any hopes of a anti-gun bill or AWB.

just because some loony-toons are calling for gun bills doesn't mean much to me. a massive support of individual right to ownership has taken over the country...especially in these harder times. people are more in fear than probably ever in their lives of having some criminal steal from them or kill them.

obongo probably doesn't want to deal with the backlash from republicans and democrats on a gun bill. he is calling for partisanship. right now the only thing I see that meaning is he has his tail between his legs after the mid-term beatings that he is calling on dems to work with the republicans to cut spending, stop earmarks (a bit...although this won't happen IMO), and work out some kind of a deal to appease republicans on the obamacare but leave enough in place to keep it his biggest success.

2008f450
01-26-2011, 22:25
Obama is still trying to figure out how to catch up with sputnik. [ROFL1]He wont try at do any gun control after what happen this past election cycle.

BPTactical
01-26-2011, 22:49
Chimpies entire agenda has been control through regulation. Classic progressive tactics. Neither he nor his cabinet are stupid and they know that this touchy subject can and would backfire on them if they were to push legislation. One saving grace is the fact it appears that there are some elected officials that are publicly calling out the "anti's" and their claims that tragic incidents can be controlled by further infringments of our rights as the BS that it is.
Oblunder is a Constitutional scholar and attorney. Who better to circumvent it through regulation?
Look at the "Czars" and others he has appointed. Cass Sunstein is really spooky if you do any homework on him, smart and devious. He and his type are the ones in charge of "regulations".
Lead ammo bans, closing of public lands to shooting are the type of steps you will see.
The Heller decision stated that banning a class of firearm is un-Constitutional, but regulation and restriction is acceptable.
Plus here is another angle on it. The Chimp in Charge stated during an interview or similar that 2A issues should be handled at the State level.
Now with that look who is our Governor.....

StagLefty
01-27-2011, 10:40
Here's the info on that rumor I read about :

“Hardball” anchor Chris Matthews surprised his MSNBC colleagues during a broadcast before President Barack Obama’s State of the Union address Tuesday night with the announcement that Obama is planning a special speech to address gun-control regulation. Matthews revealed the plan during a discussion that centered on why a prepared copy of Obama’s speech did not contain any mention of gun control.

Both Lawrence O’Donnell, host of “The Last Word,” and MSNBC TV host Rachel Maddow found the omission odd, considering the Arizona shootings and a recent clamor to reinstate the ban on high-capacity magazines like the one shooter Jared Loughner used in the Tucson fusillade that killed six and injured 19, including Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona.

“There is going to be a special presidential address on gun control,” Matthews said, without revealing how he received the information. “It has not been scheduled yet, but there is going to be one in the near future. So he is not overlooking it but I think they must have made a tactical decision that it would [become] the headline tonight and they are looking for an economic-jobs headline tonight. You can take it from me.

“With a lot of the country, it is the issue. It makes no sense to some people in the suburbs and in the cities and perhaps some places in the rural areas. But in other areas, in western Pennsylvania, guns are it,” Matthews said. “I don’t think he wanted to depress the news that he is trying to make about jobs tonight.”

The announcement of Obama’s speech came as Democrats in the House and the Senate introduced legislation that would ban the possession or sale of high-capacity magazines.http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/C...1/26/id/383940

CrufflerSteve
01-27-2011, 10:54
I still don't see anything before he is safely re-elected. Banning the possession of high capacity mags becomes a confiscation without compensation deal and the Supremes would probably strike it down. To compensate would require a lot of money which Congress is not likely to allocate.

I think the surviving Dems would scream about a law and the Republicans wouldn't help unless things change, more massacres and such.

I still expect some executive orders quietly slid out during his second term. People who fool around with AK kits and such know how they can be law like 922(r) from Bush the first.

Steve

Byte Stryke
01-27-2011, 11:24
I REALLY Do not see them confiscating.

I think that it would be a ban on sales and manufacturing.

I See a whole lot of people getting stupid when the ATF knocks on the door.
Just sayin'

BPTactical
01-27-2011, 13:51
I See a whole lot of people getting stupid when the ATF knocks on the door.
Just sayin'

Political Suicide for any elected official that would endorse said action.

Look at the numbers game:
300+ million lawfully owned firearms in this country.
80+ million lawful owners.
Probably 25% of those are of the "they can have it from my cold dead hands" mindset.
That's 20+ million lawful owners with that train of thought.
Realistically at least 50% of them would capitulate when confronted with a force on force scenario.
That still leaves around 10+ million that are willing to die for their rights.
That would equate to a lot of citizens and "confiscating authorities" funerals.
The political fallout would be horrendous.

Plus who is going to do it?
Feds don't have those kind of resources, neither does the military nor local LE.
UN? I think quite a few of the aforementioned lawful firearms owners would view that as a invasion by a foreign force and you would see a much higher percentage of "from my cold dead hands" mindset.

Robb
01-27-2011, 14:28
but it appears to be true. It looks like 0 is going to have a seperate speech of some kind on gon control early next month. It's one of the leading articles on DrudgeReport.

Robb