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Robb
01-27-2011, 14:21
Just saw this on Drudge:

White House to Push Gun Control
Obama intentionally did not mention gun control in his State of the Union, but aides say that in the next two weeks the administration will unveil a campaign to get Congress to toughen existing laws.

Evan Vucci / AP
Arizona Congressmen Jeff Flake (left) and Raul Grijalva sit next to the empty seat of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords on Capitol Hill before President Obama's recent State of the Union address.
At the beginning of his State of the Union address, President Obama tipped his hat to Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, who’s now recuperating in a Houston medical facility. But throughout the hourlong speech, he never addressed the issue at the core of the Giffords tragedy—gun control—and what lawmakers would, or should, do to reform American firearm-access laws.

That was intentional, according to the White House. An administration official says Obama didn’t mention guns in his speech because of the omnipresent controversy surrounding the Second Amendment and gun control. Tuesday’s speech was designed to be more about the economy and how, as Obama repeated nine times, the U.S. could “win the future.”

But in the next two weeks, the White House will unveil a new gun-control effort in which it will urge Congress to strengthen current laws, which now allow some mentally unstable people, such as alleged Arizona shooter Jared Loughner, to obtain certain assault weapons, in some cases without even a background check.

Tuesday night after the speech, Obama adviser David Plouffe said to NBC News that the president would not let the moment after the Arizona shootings pass without pushing for some change in the law, to prevent another similar incident. “It’s a very important issue, and one I know there’s going to be debate about on the Hill.”


The White House said that to avoid being accused of capitalizing on the Arizona shootings for political gain, Obama will address the gun issue in a separate speech, likely early next month. He’s also expected to use Arizona as a starting point, but make the case that America’s gun laws have been too loose for much longer than just the past few weeks.

As the White House prepares its strategy, several gun-policy groups are saying they were burned by the lack of any mention of guns in the president’s highest-profile speech of the year. “President Obama tonight failed to challenge old assumptions on the need for, and political possibilities of, reducing the gun violence—which he suggested should be done two weeks ago in Tucson,” said Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, the nation’s largest gun-safety group. No group said it had been consulted by the White House regarding legislative suggestions.

Meanwhile, the National Rifle Association has stayed largely silent following the Arizona shootings. Asked about a specialized White House effort on guns, a spokesman for the powerful gun lobby declined to comment.

Mtn.man
01-27-2011, 14:27
I think the key here is "Existing Laws."

So probably no new efforts just tightening the one we already have.

How about enforcing the ones we already have and quit the BS.

Busta Prima
01-27-2011, 14:44
I think the key here is "Existing Laws."

So probably no new efforts just tightening the one we already have.

How about enforcing the ones we already have and quit the BS.

+1

And they know it's death sentence for them if they play that game again.

DeusExMachina
01-27-2011, 14:45
I think the key here is "Existing Laws."

So probably no new efforts just tightening the one we already have.

How about enforcing the ones we already have and quit the BS.

The laws we have work, as mentioned in another thread here.

What didn't work is the mental health system and reporting it back to where the guy couldn't buy a gun. How about we work on that?

Oh, and the Obama administration and Democrats playing the gun control game with less than 2 years until re-election would be political suicide.

Zundfolge
01-27-2011, 16:26
I keep hearing about how Obambi is gonna start pushing for gun control any day now ... but with the changeover in the house its pretty much DOA.

He missed his chance to shove gun control down our throats because he was busy shoving every other liberal idea down our throats (honestly I'm surprised they didn't include some form of gun control in the health bill ... I'm sure they're kicking themselves by now for the oversight).

b52buff
01-27-2011, 18:42
A quote from Adolf Hitler, 1935

"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future."

That says it all. Doesn't it!

SU405
01-27-2011, 18:48
A quote from Adolf Hitler, 1935

"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future."

That says it all. Doesn't it!

This^^^^

Zundfolge
01-29-2011, 22:21
Except that Hitler never actually said that (http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcbogus.html) (not that he didn't support gun control).

Danimal
02-04-2011, 12:11
It is true that most of what is contained in this is alreay law in some form, but every inch we give them will result in a mile lost in the long run. The Obama administration will not try to push gun control now, but they will no doubt point as many fingers as they can and make every shooting a national head line. The liberal adgenda will be set on making our crap economy look as good as possible and the conservative ideal as bad as they can in hopes getting him re-elected. If that happens you better believe that they will stop at nothing to get everything they want as there will be nothing to lose. That is the sole reason for rasing the debt limit, to buy democratic votes through artificial recovery numbers.

Danimal
02-04-2011, 12:29
Except that Hitler never actually said that (http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcbogus.html) (not that he didn't support gun control).

While that is true he did not say exactly that at that time, he did however make Socialized medicine one of his top priorities. He enacted it shortly after taking power and then used it as the vehicle for social cleansing where the sterilized and killed "genetically inferior" which eventually lead to genocide.

Back to gun control I found this additional bit of information about the Nazi gun registration:

"The laws adopted by the Weimar Republic [pre Hitler] intended to disarm Nazis and Communists were sufficiently discretionary that the Nazis managed to use them against their enemies once they were in power." In other words, they didn't need to pass additional laws. The Nazis did pass a weapons law in 1938, but that only added restrictions to the previous law, especially for Jews and other "non-citizens."