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funkfool
02-02-2011, 12:16
Make sure you fill out the paperwork correctly...

Ladies and gentlemen, we are pleased to introduce the Taurus 28 gauge short barreled shotgun revolver.
Oops. Sorry. It’s no longer available. Not because they were sold out, but because the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said, “You can’t sell that thing.”
http://cdn.ihatethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/shotgun-revolver-e1296481588885.jpg
The Taurus shotgun revolver, striking fear in hearts of burglars across the fruited plain

Yes, BATFE dropped by the Taurus booth at a major gun show and declared that the Brazilian-made 28 gauge revolver was actually an illegal short barreled shotgun, not a handgun.
As we understand it, Taurus checked the little box that said it was a shotgun instead of the one that said it’s a revolver. And that, apparently, is enough to get it banned in the United States. Burglars and other assorted bad guys are sending bouquets to the boys from BATFE this morning.
Too bad. We had already worked up a nifty little ad slogan for Taurus:
“When you get burglarized, the burglar gets vaporized.”
Source: TheFirearmsBlog.com (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/01/25/big-gun-short-lived-taurus-28-gauge-revolver/)

BigBear
02-02-2011, 12:31
Naw, S&W just didn't want to be beaten with having their .500 not labled as the "biggest handgun in the world" anymore! HAHA. I bet that Taurus would be a BLAST to shoot!

DeusExMachina
02-02-2011, 12:58
I thought it was because even if it was a revolver, its still a SBS because it has a smooth bore and there is no equivalent cartridge that would fit in a 28 gauge in order to make it rifled and shoot a cartridge and a shotgun shell.

sniper7
02-02-2011, 13:06
too bad. that thing was going to be awesome!

DSB OUTDOORS
02-02-2011, 13:12
Like they always taught us in school. Always cross you're I's and Dot yor're T's!! So the BATF won't give you and "F" on you're Pistol or do I mean shotgun? [Bang]

SU405
02-02-2011, 16:55
Dumb move on the part of Taurus.

That mistake just cost them dearly in the wallet.lololo.

I have to agree with crossing the t 's and dotting the i's.

spyder
02-02-2011, 17:43
I thought it was because even if it was a revolver, its still a SBS because it has a smooth bore and there is no equivalent cartridge that would fit in a 28 gauge in order to make it rifled and shoot a cartridge and a shotgun shell.
They could have made it a smooth bore pistol, I guess you would need a AOW stamp for that anyway though. "Shoot whatever you can fit into our new revolver!"

SAnd
02-02-2011, 18:10
For What It's Worth
http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2011/01/uncapping-taurus-products.html (http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2011/01/uncapping-taurus-products.html)

The next to last paragraph-
"Also, despite rumors to the contrary, the .45 Colt/.410-bore lever-action Ranch Hand with the rifled barrel is good to go for importation, as is the 28-gauge Circuit Judge. You’ll see them later on this year, as well as the 28-gauge Raging Judge, with minor modifications."

funkfool
02-02-2011, 18:53
For What It's Worth
http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2011/01/uncapping-taurus-products.html (http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2011/01/uncapping-taurus-products.html)

The next to last paragraph-
"Also, despite rumors to the contrary, the .45 Colt/.410-bore lever-action Ranch Hand with the rifled barrel is good to go for importation, as is the 28-gauge Circuit Judge. You’ll see them later on this year, as well as the 28-gauge Raging Judge, with minor modifications."

This is worth lots!
Thanks SAnd - glad that it worked out....
Not that I am going to run out and get one... [LOL]

funkfool
02-02-2011, 18:55
Especially not the 3" model!
http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/taurus_raging_judge_magnum-tfb-tm.jpg

The cylinder looks longer than the barrel!

K31Fan
02-02-2011, 19:08
Why didn't they just check the box that said "a-helluva-big-friggin-gun?"

sniper7
02-02-2011, 20:43
For What It's Worth
http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2011/01/uncapping-taurus-products.html (http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2011/01/uncapping-taurus-products.html)

The next to last paragraph-
"Also, despite rumors to the contrary, the .45 Colt/.410-bore lever-action Ranch Hand with the rifled barrel is good to go for importation, as is the 28-gauge Circuit Judge. You’ll see them later on this year, as well as the 28-gauge Raging Judge, with minor modifications."


awesome news!

Once I see them for sale I will believe it though.

waxthis
02-02-2011, 22:23
I want one.....[Beer]

clublights
02-02-2011, 22:37
Illegal. Doesn't matter who says it or how you cut it.

A destructive device is any rifled barrel with a bore diameter greater than .50 inches. On rifles, this is measured grove to grove (50 BMG is .50 grove to grove, but .511 land to land) on pistols this is measured land to land. That means, the maximum caliber of a rifled barrel in a pistol is .50. Maximum rifle caliber is .511. A 28 gauge bore is .550 inches.

Now, if its unrifled, then it can fall under shotgun regulations, but it ends up being either an AOW or a SBS.

So, a 28 gauge pistol is a DD if it is rifled, or its an AOW or a SBS if it's not. There is no legal "over the counter" way to transfer any shotgun/pistol combination that exceeds 410 gauge.

This isn't ATF conspiracy, it's existing regulations. If other 28 gauge pistols have been cleared for import, they will be subject to the same regulations.

Frankly, Taurus is retarded for developing this and not realizing its NFA regulated. While seemingly confusing, the regulations are pretty well known. Most people know that over 50 BMG rifled = DD (okay, some just think it's illegal, but same difference)

I'm not trying to be a pain ......
just an honest question ...

What about a rifled 12ga shotgun barrel ?

SA Friday
02-02-2011, 22:52
Personally, I would never have a use for that gun. It's too big for a pistol and too small for a game gun. It's a product looking for a niche. Waste of metal IMO.