View Full Version : Those that recommended 'One Second After'
SA Friday
02-07-2011, 17:04
You guys suck! This is the scariest damn book I've read in a long time, and it's going to cost me a lot. I'm way not prepared for this magnatude of reality. I'm not even finished with the book, and I'm planning.
My new goal is a minimum of 9 months of canned, jarred, and stored longterm food stock not requiring refrigeration by the end of the summer. I will be working on purchasing materials and learning canning with a pressure cooker in the few moments I get in between my current schedule.
I gotta figure out something for seed stock and fencing too.
Suggest you read "the road" next, then you will really have problems.
StagLefty
02-07-2011, 17:48
"One Second After" gives you a lot of things to think about that usually gets lost in your everyday thinking. Great book I thought. "The Road" both the book and the movie are very dark sided but again makes you think about your plans.
Your Planning May Vary [Beer]
jerrymrc
02-07-2011, 19:03
My new goal is a minimum of 9 months of canned, jarred, and stored longterm food stock not requiring refrigeration by the end of the summer. I will be working on purchasing materials and learning canning with a pressure cooker in the few moments I get in between my current schedule.
There is a canning/Mylar storage class this weekend here in the springs. And I have a canner for sale. [Coffee]
You're welcome. Have you read Lights Out yet? They are pretty much the same story, but Lights Out isn't nearly as emotionally draining as One Second After is.
I tried to get my fiance to read OSA, but she refuses, so I gave it to my dad and asked him to read it as a favor to me.
About how far through the book are you?
SA Friday
02-08-2011, 01:02
Thanks for the info Jerry. I will let you know if I can make the class.
I'm about half way through the book. They are just figuring out they are going to get hit with a very large group of raiders. It's just going to be fricken ugly. I can see it already. Man, I'd of been making sears and springs for some of those firearms long before this. I'd of had a few canisters of kaboom to drop from that plane cooked up by now too.
The biggest eye opener so far is just how dependent we are on the transportation infrastructure for a steady resupply of food and medications. I mean, I see it working at walmart all the time. Hell, we got totally cleaned out last weekend due to superbowl parties. A mad rush would turn that place into a killing field. It's the months afterward that Really have me thinking.
Thanks for the info Jerry. I will let you know if I can make the class.
I'm about half way through the book. They are just figuring out they are going to get hit with a very large group of raiders. It's just going to be fricken ugly. I can see it already. Man, I'd of been making sears and springs for some of those firearms long before this. I'd of had a few canisters of kaboom to drop from that plane cooked up by now too.
The biggest eye opener so far is just how dependent we are on the transportation infrastructure for a steady resupply of food and medications. I mean, I see it working at walmart all the time. Hell, we got totally cleaned out last weekend due to superbowl parties. A mad rush would turn that place into a killing field. It's the months afterward that Really have me thinking.
If it is not out of place does any one have a copy they could lend me? i would pay for shipping both ways.
If it is not out of place does any one have a copy they could lend me? i would pay for shipping both ways.
By the time you pay for shipping both ways you might as well spend a few extra bucks to buy yourself a copy. It's worth owning and B&N usually has a few copies on hand.
By the time you pay for shipping both ways you might as well spend a few extra bucks to buy yourself a copy. It's worth owning and B&N usually has a few copies on hand.
haha just checked cost of the book yup thought it was going to be quite a bit more lets see if the borders near me has it. Something to do seeing as how i cant even see my car it is snowing so hard.
Oh you're at the low point Friday, it gets a lot more positive from here on out.
mcantar18c
02-08-2011, 04:01
Think I just might have to take a trip to Barnes and Noble tomorrow
We should support independent book stores like we try to support local gun shops.
StagLefty
02-08-2011, 09:48
If it is not out of place does any one have a copy they could lend me? i would pay for shipping both ways.
Got mine from the library-free !![Beer]
ghettodub
02-10-2011, 11:16
Just downloaded the audio book of this from Douglas County library online!
ShooterJM
02-10-2011, 13:03
And I have a canner for sale. [Coffee]
Go on....
(water bath or pressure?)
CoGunNut
02-10-2011, 14:56
Brews,
Before you order, go swing by a B&N or just call them to see if they have one in stock. I saw some here in Ft. Collins at the B&N on the discount table for about $6, but that was last week.
Nut
SA Friday
02-11-2011, 18:56
I finished the book yesterday. Just scary.
Have you read Lights Out? That is like the Disney version of One Second After, although I think Lights Out was written first.
Glad you read it. I gave it to my dad to read and he is just over half way through.
gnihcraes
02-11-2011, 22:04
The biggest eye opener so far is just how dependent we are on the transportation infrastructure for a steady resupply of food and medications. I mean, I see it working at walmart all the time. Hell, we got totally cleaned out last weekend due to superbowl parties. A mad rush would turn that place into a killing field. It's the months afterward that Really have me thinking.
Just yesterday I was looking out of my penthouse suite downtown (joke), at the big metro area and thinking what if the food couldn't get here? Middle of winter, trucks and planes couldn't get here for some reason. All the people that have no plan or storage of food.
I went to wal-mart the other day after our several days of really cold weather, the place was jammed! All the people that apparently didn't have food at home and either couldn't get out or decided not to get out, were there. I went home and didn't bother fighting the crowds, I didn't need anything that bad.
I'm looking into this book you're all talking about, not sure I want to read it.
jerrymrc
02-12-2011, 07:37
Just yesterday I was looking out of my penthouse suite downtown (joke), at the big metro area and thinking what if the food couldn't get here? Middle of winter, trucks and planes couldn't get here for some reason. All the people that have no plan or storage of food.
I went to wal-mart the other day after our several days of really cold weather, the place was jammed! All the people that apparently didn't have food at home and either couldn't get out or decided not to get out, were there. I went home and didn't bother fighting the crowds, I didn't need anything that bad.
I'm looking into this book you're all talking about, not sure I want to read it.
It was 2-3 years ago that we had one winter storm that kept the trucks from getting down here. After 3 days I ventured to our local King Soopers to see what it looked like. All the dairy was gone, all the bread was gone and the regular shelves were about half full. It was something to see that it only took a couple of days. ;)
It was 2-3 years ago that we had one winter storm that kept the trucks from getting down here. After 3 days I ventured to our local King Soopers to see what it looked like. All the dairy was gone, all the bread was gone and the regular shelves were about half full. It was something to see that it only took a couple of days. ;)
It was a similar story after Hurrican Hugo in 89. I was stationed at Charleston AFB, SC and the roads were blocked for days with trees, downed power lines, shrimp boats, etc..
It is a lot of fun camping out in your own home for 13 days with no electricity!
ghettodub
02-22-2011, 15:41
Just finished this. Good story. Didn't really scare me, but did give me some things to think about...and makes me want to be more prepared if SHTF someday.
TriggerHappy
02-22-2011, 16:00
Just picked it up in SFO yesterday. What an awesome read. I am not the "reading books" type. I like picutures.... I am about 80 pages in and cant set it down.
solomon751
02-24-2011, 11:32
Question for you guys... I just finished reading TSA and I'm in the camp of getting my crap together for this or any other SHTF type scenario. What I am debating is to bug out or to honker down. What are your thoughts about what you would do in this situation?
Pros of hunkering down:
Got 2 kids (7 and 2) and a wife - not gonna do a lot of rucking with kids.
Might be able to lay low enough to not raise attention if we stayed in the basement and defended what we have.
Can stock up and live off of 9 months of food for our family with some reasonable preparation.
Even w/o heat or electricity shelter from the elements and a fireplace is golden.
No humping lol
Cons of hunkering down:
House is a nightmare to defend - one Molotov cocktail and the place (including the brood and everything you worked toward/food) is up in smoke.
If the "Posse" type scenario happens you are screwed.
If you DID decide to take off chances are it would be too late and roads choked or shut down with others in the same thought.
I am interested to see what you all think about putting yourself in a SHTF scenario and your rational.
ghettodub
02-24-2011, 11:38
I think it all depends on your current house: i.e. your location, neighboorhood, surrounding areas, and what exactly the scenario is (if you're even able to tell).
I can tell you I sure as hell wouldn't want to hunker down in a house in the city, because of the people around, panic, lack of supplies, looting, etc, but if you live in one of those areas, would it be more dangerous to get out? You would either want to get a jump on everyone else leaving, or if you can make it a few days until the initial batshit crazy dies down, and then get it.
Just a few of my thoughts.
solomon751
02-24-2011, 14:00
Without getting to specific I live south of Hampden and a bit East of Sheridan in the 80236 area. Not a bad area by comparison to my travels around the metro area. Far from LODO but still far enough from the hills to make bugging out a whole lot of work with kids.
StagLefty
02-24-2011, 14:21
My answer is to stay where you are if possible. You have all your supplies already there and it's better than sitting in a traffic jam. If you bug out you'd better have a place to go otherwise the people where you go probably aren't going to be standing there with open arms.
This idea about heading for the hills to me isn't rational if you don't have set up there. JMHO
ghettodub
02-24-2011, 14:28
This idea about heading for the hills to me isn't rational if you don't have set up there. JMHO
Agreed. My folks live up in the hills, so I have a place to go, but I would go if I didn't have a place.
ghettodub
02-24-2011, 14:29
Without getting to specific I live south of Hampden and a bit East of Sheridan in the 80236 area. Not a bad area by comparison to my travels around the metro area. Far from LODO but still far enough from the hills to make bugging out a whole lot of work with kids.
same area I'm in too, heh
ChunkyMonkey
02-24-2011, 22:08
Funny... I figure I check if they have the book @ walmart since I am going there shortly. I googled it..and the first one on google is this thread...
[ROFL1]
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=walmart#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&q=walmart+%22the+second+after%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.1,or.&fp=2ce4b7de8d5212a
ghettodub
02-24-2011, 22:18
It's called One Second After BTW if you're looking for it
StagLefty
02-25-2011, 09:25
Funny... I figure I check if they have the book @ walmart since I am going there shortly. I googled it..and the first one on google is this thread...
[ROFL1]
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=walmart#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&q=walmart+%22the+second+after%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.1,or.&fp=2ce4b7de8d5212a
Local library-free [Beer]
SA Friday
02-28-2011, 13:52
Oh dear god in heaven. The wife just finished 'One Second After'. I thought it scared me... She didn't sleep last night, and I'm currently sharing info she once thought was from the minds of the paranoid.
Jerry, what was that site you were buying Mylar bags and O2 tablets from? What size were they too?
jerrymrc
02-28-2011, 21:25
Oh dear god in heaven. The wife just finished 'One Second After'. I thought it scared me... She didn't sleep last night, and I'm currently sharing info she once thought was from the minds of the paranoid.
Jerry, what was that site you were buying Mylar bags and O2 tablets from? What size were they too?
I see it is time for the Mylar party. [Coffee] Here is the site. http://www.sorbentsystems.com/mylar.html
This is the one you are looking for.
10VF4C16
10.0"x16.0"
Equivalent to a #10 can. PAKVF4C (http://sorbentsystems.com/specs/pakvf4c.html)
5.0 mils- Food Grade!
Also available in Green! 250
50-150 @ $0.562ea
I use the 300cc absorbers. Here is the page. http://www.sorbentsystems.com/order_O2.html
A couple of things. 50 bags and 50 absorbers is under there $45 min and have a surcharge. Order 60 bags and it should be over.
The absorbers can be put into a cart but not the bags you want so you go to the order form here. https://www.sorbentsystems.com/orderform.html
and manually put in the #'s. The bags come in silver or green pick one or they come silver.
After all this you will get one Email that says your order has been received.
Just about the time that you are wondering what has happened to your order (4-5 days) it will show up on your doorstep. Just pointing out some quirks of ordering from them.
Now all that said I do have plenty of bags and 50 absorbers here. If you want to start I can give ya a list of local bulk items to start with. For your first batch you would need 20 to 30 bags and 30-40 absorbers since some of the items ya might want to put away are 1/2 bag items.
If it is any consolation I kind of went through the same thing with my wife. She did not understand what I was doing or why. A few events over a couple of years changed her mind.
If ya have any questions drop me a PM. In addition to what you can put in mylar yourself to save $$$ you need to look here http://www.honeyvillegrain.com/ For items and also take a look at the links page. I like Honeyville because of there shipping costs.
You opened the box and there is no going back now. [Beer][Coffee]
theGinsue
02-28-2011, 21:54
Oh dear god in heaven. The wife just finished 'One Second After'. I thought it scared me... She didn't sleep last night, and I'm currently sharing info she once thought was from the minds of the paranoid.
Jerry, what was that site you were buying Mylar bags and O2 tablets from? What size were they too?
My wife isn't interested in reading it and my best friend told me I have to stop reading TEOTWAWKI type of books (he hasn't read it either, but I think I can turn him).
So, I sit here all alone in my desire to prepare for SHTF events.
theGinsue
02-28-2011, 21:57
While I think the canning class was OUTSTANDING and I'm looking forward to the Mylar class, I can't stress enough the most overlooked SHTF/TEOTWAWKI item:
toilet paper! Stock up!!!
jerrymrc
02-28-2011, 22:00
While I think the canning class was OUTSTANDING and I'm looking forward to the Mylar class, I can't stress enough the most overlooked SHTF/TEOTWAWKI item:
toilet paper! Stock up!!!
I can show ya a trick to that as well. [Coffee]
Are there any local places to get bulk wheat and other grains?
theGinsue
02-28-2011, 22:12
I can show ya a trick to that as well. [Coffee]
See? This is what I'm talking about.
I knew I could count on you.
Are there any local places to get bulk wheat and other grains?
The best place I have been able to find to get wheat berries locally is from the LDS cannery - 25 lbs for $7.65 currently. They have a few types of beans and other bulk items as well. There is one in Aurora near I70 & Chambers. Here is a link to their order form/price list:
http://www.providentliving.org/content/display/0,11666,8133-1-4352-1,00.html
Some items they sell are cheaper at Sam's (rice & white sugar) but overall their items are a real bargain. I've gone there a couple times, it is open to public, not required to be a member. They also have items that you can pack in #10 cans or in bags as well. In addition they have some wet pack items that are really good. My favorite is their jams. They have about 6 or 8 different kinds like boysenberry, loganberry, raspberry, peach etc and I think they were $2 for a 16oz jar.
I finished it this weekend. The wife finished it today. She hasn"t stopped crying. She's passing it on to her family. She's alot more interested in the plan. The book brings some hard thoughts into daily thinking.
thanks argal going to check them out soon.
Without getting to specific I live south of Hampden and a bit East of Sheridan in the 80236 area. Not a bad area by comparison to my travels around the metro area. Far from LODO but still far enough from the hills to make bugging out a whole lot of work with kids.
I live in exactly the same area, and have come to the conclusion that the property is defensible for a few days. I've been mapping out bugout places and routes for several years now and have the plan in place. We have several bugout bags in our cars, the house, in storage units and even at a couple of friends houses, and run drills on the actual BO several times a year. Starting last season I started burying cache's of minor supplies in a couple of the spots, this year I'll do more just in case everything goes south and I need supplies.
My BO plan is pretty extensive and often practiced. I don't store a years worth of food because I know I have to be mobile but I have plenty in case I decide to hold out here for six months (which is highly likely unless everything goes completely to hell, which is unlikely). I never bring a car back home with less than 1/2 tank of gas (minimum needed to reach the furthest BO spot plus extra), I break down each BO bag quarterly and re-stock it, I generally go camping several times a year with nothing but a BO bag to make sure it is enough to survive on. I buy and rotate obscene amounts of MRE's each year.
I'm pretty anal about it all :).
We've been trying to find some large acreage for a few years that will be our final stop (the rest of the spots become stops along the way to it). Hard to find the kind of acreage I need and want but we keep looking and have the cash ready for it.
I started doing this all years ago. I've read The Road and it was quite shocking as was One Second After, but I went nuts like this long before I read these books. Obama clinched it for me and I stepped up my efforts - spending tens of thousands of dollars on "the plan". I've been waiting for ammo costs to drop a bit before I finalize that. The only piece I'm really missing in the guns department is a lot of reloading experience but I'm working on it.
This year I bought a few cases of heirloom seeds and am planting nothing but those in my gardens - I even plan to carve out a little spot in one of my BO spots to do a test there as well.
And, no, I'm not a tin hat weirdo (I'm a garden variety weirdo), I just believe in being prepared at all times and I watch in disgust how Americans have become fat and complacent and have deviated from our basic roots so far in the last 100 years that we DRIVE 1/4 mile to get our milk!
But, you know, other than that I really have no opinion on the matter :).
ChunkyMonkey
02-28-2011, 23:29
http://www.providentliving.org/content/display/0,11666,8133-1-4352-1,00.html
is this their location?
CO - Aurora (Denver)
Phone (303) 371-7650
Address
3233 Fraser Street
Aurora, Colorado 80011
is this their location?
CO - Aurora (Denver)
Phone (303) 371-7650
Address
3233 Fraser Street
Aurora, Colorado 80011
If i can get to RAR to pick up a lower at a decent hour tommorrow i will head up there and confirm that.
Also ARgal is there anything special I need to know about the place?
like secret handshake code word etc
is this their location?
CO - Aurora (Denver)
Phone (303) 371-7650
Address
3233 Fraser Street
Aurora, Colorado 80011
yep, that's it.
If i can get to RAR to pick up a lower at a decent hour tommorrow i will head up there and confirm that.
Also ARgal is there anything special I need to know about the place?
like secret handshake code word etc
LOL - i had that same thought when I first found out about them. But when I looked at paying $60 with shipping for wheat as opposed to 7 bucks I figured I'd give it a go and just see how it was. It's staffed by volunteers and everyone was very friendly and helpful. If you want to pack #10 cans they show you how use the equipment etc. I did a few and actually it was fun. There was no proselytizing or anything. It was a very positve experience. And I filled up the back of my pickup for very little money.:) When you get there go to the north end of the building not the south end. The south end is where they do the wet pack canning and north is where they have the bulk goods, etc.
ChunkyMonkey
02-28-2011, 23:44
I did a few and actually it was fun. There was no proselytizing or anything. It was a very positve experience. And I filled up the back of my pickup for very little money.:) When you get there go to the north end of the building not the south end. The south end is where they do the wet pack canning and north is where they have the bulk goods, etc.
That sounds great... I gotta check it out. Thanks for sharing.[Beer]
LOL - i had that same thought when I first found out about them. But when I looked at paying $60 with shipping for wheat as opposed to 7 bucks I figured I'd give it a go and just see how it was. It's staffed by volunteers and everyone was very friendly and helpful. If you want to pack #10 cans they show you how use the equipment etc. I did a few and actually it was fun. There was no proselytizing or anything. It was a very positve experience. And I filled up the back of my pickup for very little money.:) When you get there go to the north end of the building not the south end. The south end is where they do the wet pack canning and north is where they have the bulk goods, etc.
Awesome thank you.
Glad to help. I'm planning to head over there on Wed myself to get a few more items.
BTW the last time I was there, their hours were Mon-Thurs 9 to 3:30 and on Tues,Wed, Thurs they open from 6-9pm also
Everyone who has read this book, should probably read Lights Out as well.
I had my dad read this book, and now he is talking about buying not one, but TWO guns. I'm not sure that I can give the credit to the book though.
K so I finished it in 2 days today was a power read to be sure. All I can say is wow this book was a great read. One part that stood out was allowing people with preps to keep them. I do not see that happening in a real situation
K so I finished it in 2 days today was a power read to be sure. All I can say is wow this book was a great read. One part that stood out was allowing people with preps to keep them. I do not see that happening in a real situation
It was the same for me, two days and I devoured it! I still make references to it. And I agree, if I stored up a bunch of supplies and had a running vehicle I have no doubt there would be lynch mob coming my way to get at it all and there would be little understanding about how I would not tap into the common pool but live off my own stuff. Whatever, it's a good ready anyway.
theGinsue
04-17-2011, 18:22
Word on onesecondafter.com now is that William Forstchen is currently in negotiations with Warnewr Brothers to make this a movie.
If it's done correctly, tihs could be a tremendous movie indeed - and if enough folks actually take heed and prepare for the worst (they won't), we'd all be better off when/if the time comes (no having to fight to keep what you've stocked up).
Rooskibar03
04-29-2011, 12:26
Okay thanks a lot guys. I'm 4 chapters in and my mind is already playing the "what would you do you unprepared idiot" game with me.
two shoes
04-29-2011, 12:33
Okay thanks a lot guys. I'm 4 chapters in and my mind is already playing the "what would you do you unprepared idiot" game with me.
Lol... it gets better! I did a power read over last weekend... I couldn't put it down.
SA Friday
04-29-2011, 13:51
Wife and I watch a discovery channel special on EMP and what it would do. It was very much in line with Forstechen's book and he was even in it. He convinced the real town in NC in his book to run a training simulation of an EMP attack and the results. Can you say water?
There are a couple of companies working on faraday cages for computer systems, and another working on EMP zapping just about everything they can find to study and understand just how much we would lose and for how long.
It was on Netflix.
Remember the name by any chance? Can I just search for EMP?
ChunkyMonkey
04-29-2011, 20:36
I could only find these two, which are at least 5 year old.
http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/future-weapons-emp-bomb.html
http://science.discovery.com/videos/kapow-superhero-science-electromagnetic-pulse-effect.html
SA Friday
04-29-2011, 23:56
I dont remember the title and it isnt in our recently watched que. I'll ask the wife what it was and see if she can remember it [ROFL1]. It wasn't either of the two links posted. It was newer than that.
SA Friday
04-30-2011, 11:23
I dont remember the title and it isnt in our recently watched que. I'll ask the wife what it was and see if she can remember it [ROFL1]. It wasn't either of the two links posted. It was newer than that.
National Geographic Channel; Explorer, Electronic Armageddon.
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/explorer/4821/Overview#tab-Videos/08222_00
My daughter remembered. Wife didnt have a clue.
Thank you sir. You have a PM.
mcantar18c
05-03-2011, 00:50
Anybody have a copy that they might be willing to loan me? Maybe in trade for the 20 or so pieces of .308 and 20 or so .45ACP brass I have from the other day?
ChunkyMonkey
05-03-2011, 10:13
Anybody have a copy that they might be willing to loan me? Maybe in trade for the 20 or so pieces of .308 and 20 or so .45ACP brass I have from the other day?
You can pick it up from me. I am north of Southglenn by the Preserves, and I know you live across from Southglenn (inside of the shell gas station? Thats all I can think of across the southglenn :D).
Anybody have a copy that they might be willing to loan me? Maybe in trade for the 20 or so pieces of .308 and 20 or so .45ACP brass I have from the other day?
I have a Digital copy on borders e reader if you would like
Great read. Unfortunately my thinks I'm even more insane now. Hope they do the movie.
jerrymrc
05-03-2011, 19:27
I know many have said things about this being an unrealistic probability and it may be but it does not take much to prepare for it.
I hope to upgrade a little soon but I keep some items in a 40mm ammo can with foam inserts and it is grounded. The basics I keep in there are a small laptop computer. An external HD that I add to once a month. It has all the manuals/data and stuff I have pulled off the net in the last 20 years.
A good SW radio, a 600W inverter and a solar charge controller along with a battery charger. I remember one guest at my Canning class remarked about my Tube amplifier. I have one turntable that is not electronic and along with my albums means that I will never be without music.[Coffee] Just a thought.
mcantar18c
05-03-2011, 23:40
You can pick it up from me. I am north of Southglenn by the Preserves, and I know you live across from Southglenn (inside of the shell gas station? Thats all I can think of across the southglenn :D).
Awesome, thanks! PM on its way.
Thanks Brews, but he lives right down the road from me.
Oh and thanks again to Irving for the copy of Lights Out!
[Beer] to all
mcantar18c
05-08-2011, 03:16
Just finished OSA in all of 2 nights... just couldn't put it down (sending you a text tomorrow about returning it, Ken, as it's now 3am). Halfway through Lights Out as well.
Really got me thinking about TEOTWAWKI... I think I have the prepper bug lol. Definitely gonna bug out rather than hunker down, leave immediately to check on/retrieve family and then head for my spot in the hills, hopefully that'll give enough of a headstart on the batshit crazy rush. Gonna have to go turn my camping/hunting spot into a bug out spot, load it with supplies and such.
These books are gonna cost me a lot of money...
For those looking for One Second After by Forstchen:
It is in PDF format here. Its condensed without spaces at 216 PDF pages (book is 352 pages), but its a great copy to save and share.
http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/21916902/1931499887/name/William+R+Forstchen+-+One+Second+After.pdf
For those looking for Lights Out by Crawford (AKA Halffast):
Frugal Squirrel has posted the first 10 chapters in PDF format. It comes to 72 PDF pages (the complete PDF version was pulled due to a possible movie deal).
http://www.frugalsquirrels.com/fiction/lightsout1-10.pdf
Enjoy
EDIT: Found full 611 PDF page copy of Lights Out (All 75 chapters) - Practically one of the last ones on the web. Book mark it and save it while you can.
http://misc.weedwhacker.org/misc/lights_out.pdf
*The links posted in this message were verified as "safe" at the time of posting.
I just read the first 10 chapters of LO. I love Halffast's writing style and character buildup.
Halffast's character development is excellent, but I find his overall style to be amateur. He spends too much time explaining stuff on a 4th grade level and goes into too much detail on the gun stuff. I let a friend borrow OSA and she accused the author of being a Nicholas Sparks wanna-be. I laughed and told her I wouldn't bother giving her LO then. heh.
mcantar18c
05-13-2011, 00:30
+1 on the character development. The thing that annoyed me in LO is how obvious the foreshadowing was, after you pick up on the pattern.
I agree that LO could use a few general improvements in its overall book structure but think that Halffast did a good job for an amateur/hobby writer.
I also appreciate the several years of work he put into distributing LO for free and then later publishing it. I certainly would not have the patience to write 75 chapters of open source literature.
jerrymrc
05-14-2011, 05:42
I agree that LO could use a few general improvements in its overall book structure but think that Halffast did a good job for an amateur/hobby writer.
I also appreciate the several years of work he put into distributing LO for free and then later publishing it. I certainly would not have the patience to write 75 chapters of open source literature.
I remember as the book came to life. Had some chats with him over on the Falfiles years ago.
As long as one can paint a picture that looks good to me then I am happy.
I have a copy along with printing one out. one sided, 600 pages........
Paradude54
05-14-2011, 14:01
I read One Second After a few months ago and really enjoyed it, though it bugged the hell out of me when he kept calling a "magazine" a "clip," but then we all have our little odd quirks and that's mine. Too many years in SF I suppose.
I'm just starting Lights Out, got it yesterday.
I didn't do any prepping when I was in the military, it just didn't seem important since I'd be busy with other things. At least that was my thought pattern at the time. I prepped a decent bit for Y2K and just kept building on that.
By the way, if anyone here is near Trinidad, 81082, I'd love to get together sometime when I'm out there. I have the land, but I'm still living in TN for the most part. I'd hoped to be out there permanently by now, but it just hasn't happened.
gungrinder
06-03-2011, 08:16
After you're done with One Second After, The Road and Lights Out try Patriots: A Novel of Survival in the Coming Collapse. It's an excellent read IMO.
Just tried a little checking and WB now has the film rights for OSA and plans to turn it into a movie, but no word or anything yet on script, director, cast or even what year they expect to begin production... Seems to me like it would make one helluva blockbuster, if they do it right.
jhood001
06-21-2011, 15:47
I read it after hearing about it here. Definitely not one of the finest literary works I have ever read, but +10 points to bringing awareness to a very serious issue.
I spotted this in the news the other day:
North Korea Tests 'Super-EMP' Nuke
http://www.newsmax.com/KenTimmerman/super-emp-emp-northkorea-nuke/2011/06/16/id/400260
hollohas
06-21-2011, 16:45
I read it after hearing about it here. Definitely not one of the finest literary works I have ever read, but +10 points to bringing awareness to a very serious issue.
I spotted this in the news the other day:
North Korea Tests 'Super-EMP' Nuke
http://www.newsmax.com/KenTimmerman/super-emp-emp-northkorea-nuke/2011/06/16/id/400260
That is SCARY SHIT.
How can a country with no electricity test an EMP device?
hollohas
06-22-2011, 08:27
How can a country with no electricity test an EMP device?
They just don't let the riff raff have electricity...keeps them in line that way.
I'm more worried about the coming solar maxima (http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/2012-may-bring-the-perfect-storm-solar-flares-systems-collapse) and a possible coronal mass ejection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronal_mass_ejection) that could cause huge blackouts like the one in Canada some years back. Think about how much more dependent we are on electronics now than we were then (1989).
I read "Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse" by Rawles.
A very good read. I think I liked it better then 1 second after.
Goes into more detail about setting up a retreat.
I'm more worried about the coming solar maxima (http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/2012-may-bring-the-perfect-storm-solar-flares-systems-collapse) and a possible coronal mass ejection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronal_mass_ejection) that could cause huge blackouts like the one in Canada some years back. Think about how much more dependent we are on electronics now than we were then (1989).
NASA released a press release about just that kind of thing and they stated that the sun is actually going into a minimum and that we shouldn't worry too much about a massive CME within the next 22 years (solar activity goes through minimum and maximum every 11 years). I'd be more worried about man-made threats.
On the whole NK thing, I would suggest just glassing the whole country since they won't listen to anyone. WTF are 'sanctions' going to do anyway. It's not like they really pay attention to angry letters from the UN or US anyway.
hollohas
06-22-2011, 14:44
NASA released a press release about just that kind of thing and they stated that the sun is actually going into a minimum and that we shouldn't worry too much about a massive CME within the next 22 years (solar activity goes through minimum and maximum every 11 years). I'd be more worried about man-made threats.
On the whole NK thing, I would suggest just glassing the whole country since they won't listen to anyone. WTF are 'sanctions' going to do anyway. It's not like they really pay attention to angry letters from the UN or US anyway.
Actually we are just coming to the end of a minimum. Although I think most of the hype about a super solar maximum is a bit outdated.
Here is a chart showing the maximum is supposed to be about this time (red chart)...
http://www.ucar.edu/news/releases/2006/images/figpredic24-1.jpg
That was from 2006 and they were wrong. The sun activity dropped even lower into 2008.
http://science1.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2009/01apr_deepsolarminimum/
In 2009 NASA said the solar maximum will actually be rather small and peak sometime in 2013.
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2009/29may_noaaprediction/
BUT...in 1859 a solar storm about the size of the one they predict in 2013 (and also happened after a period of below average activity) electrified transmission cables and set fires to telegraph offices.
A recent report by the National Academy of Sciences found that if a similar storm occurred today, it could cause $1 to 2 trillion in damages to society's high-tech infrastructure and require four to ten years for complete recovery.
A new report for those who don't like to read...
iBl_FOONrB0
And a bit more about what type of damage solar flares can do.
http://science1.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/06may_carringtonflare/
And the webpage for NASA's project called "Solar Shield" in which they hope to figure out how to protect or power grid.
http://ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov/Solar_Shield/Solar_Shield.html
That is all.
I read "Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse" by Rawles.
A very good read. I think I liked it better then 1 second after.
Goes into more detail about setting up a retreat.
I found that book to be a bit tin-hatty, but an interesting read nonetheless. I wasn't as glued to that book as I was One Second After, but there was a lot of great solutions there. I hadn't thought of using old 2 wire phones before reading Patriots.
I just finished 1 second and lights out. It really helped me to see how poorly prepared i am for any kind of a disaster. So now I see more $ going into survival stuff. The good thing is my wife agrees with me without having read either book. For a free site this sure is costing me a lot of $. [ROFL1]
I read all 3 Novels in the last 2 weeks. They're all great reads and definitely get you thinking. I'm no literary critic so I won't get into the predictability and character development BS. I read to be entertained or enlightened. In the case of these 3 novels I got both.
Most likely, in that type of scenario, all your going to be doing is playing 'how long can I last' anyways. So you need a big gun, and a group of people with the resources. I doubt they would turn away a beautiful woman like they did, sex sells, and I doubt people stop having sex when the SHTF. EMP nuke is a threat one way or the other.
The most pressing problem now is probably food shortages, and massive inflation, economics, etc. That is got me thinking about home growing vegies, and a chicken coop at the least. If I had more land, I would think about goats, which Denver just made legal (to appease all the illegals [Rant1]) for goat milk and goat cheese, especially now that the Northwest is getting really irradiated from Fukashima. Stocking up on Sea-Salt, because all that radiation will eventually contaminate alot of the ocean. It will take years to be reabsorbed.
Is anyone buying into the Obama/Democrat/Cloward/Piven scenario being acted out?
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy
Can't wait for that guaranteed annual income!
cukin commi hippies....[Flower]
I just finished the book. I enjoyed it and it probably will get me back into novel reading.
I wanted more story. It seemed it skipped pretty fast from the attack.... Right through the winter... and onto them getting hope when all seemed hopeless.
I felt as if the author rushed the second half of the book.
J Tactical Firearms
07-23-2011, 17:27
Excellent discussion.
relichunter
08-17-2011, 08:02
I just finished the book thanks to the recommendations in this post. A lot of good thoughts and I enjoyed the book overall especially the points about social unrest.
Some of us like to think that we can hide out and ride anything out by ourselves but most likely there will need to be a lot of cooperation to protect against factions with other priorities.
I wonder if an EMP would be so completely effective. Some of the reading I have done indicate many devices, such as cars, may survive an EMP.
You guys suck! This is the scariest damn book I've read in a long time, and it's going to cost me a lot. I'm way not prepared for this magnatude of reality. I'm not even finished with the book, and I'm planning.
My new goal is a minimum of 9 months of canned, jarred, and stored longterm food stock not requiring refrigeration by the end of the summer. I will be working on purchasing materials and learning canning with a pressure cooker in the few moments I get in between my current schedule.
I gotta figure out something for seed stock and fencing too.
How are your food stores coming?
mcantar18c
08-17-2011, 23:11
I just finished the book thanks to the recommendations in this post. A lot of good thoughts and I enjoyed the book overall especially the points about social unrest.
Some of us like to think that we can hide out and ride anything out by ourselves but most likely there will need to be a lot of cooperation to protect against factions with other priorities.
I wonder if an EMP would be so completely effective. Some of the reading I have done indicate many devices, such as cars, may survive an EMP.
I'd like to think I could get by fine on my own, and I'm sure many others with the experience and/or training could as well. Self sustainment in the wilderness isn't that difficult if you know what you're doing and have a little (un)common sense. The biggest challenge would come from the 2 legged threats IMO.
I'd like to think I could get by fine on my own, and I'm sure many others with the experience and/or training could as well. Self sustainment in the wilderness isn't that difficult if you know what you're doing and have a little (un)common sense. The biggest challenge would come from the 2 legged threats IMO.
Got spare electrical parts for that stroker there Mason?
I'd like to think I could get by fine on my own, and I'm sure many others with the experience and/or training could as well. Self sustainment in the wilderness isn't that difficult if you know what you're doing and have a little (un)common sense. The biggest challenge would come from the 2 legged threats IMO.
Sure it's not that difficult, when no one else is doing it. But what about when EVERYONE else is doing it at the same time? Just like the difference between shopping at Walmart on a Wednesday morning and shopping at Walmart 16 hours after an earth quake. [Help]
mcantar18c
08-17-2011, 23:39
Got spare electrical parts for that stroker there Mason?
Nope, no need to. I recently acquired an old POS BMW (the kind those tools like to use for rally racing) that will work to get me as far as I can and if/when I have to ditch it for some reason (out of fuel or otherwise disabled, road block, whatever) I certainly won't miss it.
I keep my BOB ready to go, and I pack differently than some folks here so its pretty lightweight... light enough that I can, and have, carry it over very long distances. Its also pretty compact, which is nice.
As for experience, I worked as a trail guide for a while and am more familiar with more parts of the Rockies than I am in downtown Denver. I've covered the Colorado Trail down and back with a pack very similar to my BOB, which is why I'm confident about my gear and ability.
So, I should be fine [Flower]
Also, I only have to worry about this for another 3 months. After that I will be in Uncle Sam's possession and at the disposal of the Army.
Nope, no need to. I recently acquired an old POS BMW (the kind those tools like to use for rally racing) that will work to get me as far as I can and if/when I have to ditch it for some reason (out of fuel or otherwise disabled, road block, whatever) I certainly won't miss it.
I keep my BOB ready to go, and I pack differently than some folks here so its pretty lightweight... light enough that I can, and have, carry it over very long distances. Its also pretty compact, which is nice.
As for experience, I worked as a trail guide for a while and am more familiar with more parts of the Rockies than I am in downtown Denver. I've covered the Colorado Trail down and back with a pack very similar to my BOB, which is why I'm confident about my gear and ability.
So, I should be fine [Flower]
Also, I only have to worry about this for another 3 months. After that I will be in Uncle Sam's possession and at the disposal of the Army.
I have parts and I will give it a good home...[Flower]
mcantar18c
08-17-2011, 23:42
Sure it's not that difficult, when no one else is doing it. But what about when EVERYONE else is doing it at the same time? Just like the difference between shopping at Walmart on a Wednesday morning and shopping at Walmart 16 hours after an earth quake. [Help]
That's why I said the biggest concern will be dealing with two-legged threats. Its much easier to E/E with just you, rather than with an untrained group or in a known position.
mcantar18c
08-17-2011, 23:48
I have parts and I will give it a good home...[Flower]
Its all yours bud.
Seriously, its for sale [Tooth]
I'm not talking about just being by yourself, I mean when every other dummy is out trying to do the same thing. Kind of like camping on Memorial Day Weekend. Just something to think about. The more remote the better, except for the getting there part.
I wish I had land with a cave on it.
The only thing I took away from that book was how retarded the main character was. He wrote THE report on an EMP attack, the one the government follows. And yet he can't see the signs of the actual event when it happens for, what, a couple days??
mcantar18c
08-18-2011, 00:20
I'm not talking about just being by yourself, I mean when every other dummy is out trying to do the same thing. Kind of like camping on Memorial Day Weekend. Just something to think about. The more remote the better, except for the getting there part.
I wish I had land with a cave on it.
I know what you're saying. What I'm getting at is that a lone individual with the proper know-how can travel light and fast, E/E well, and self-sustain without much trouble.
Once you get away from the main travel routes, which is pretty easy on foot (ditch the car on 258, hump a few miles away perpendicular to the highway and then get back on your bearing) and avoid the paths of least resistance when possible, I imagine human contact would be few and far between and easily avoided if you can spot them first.
Your average idiot in this day and age will not have much experience on land nav, surviving off the land, etc. and most likely wouldn't last long. Every other dummy might go out and try to do the same thing, but I doubt many will actually be successful.
mcantar18c
08-18-2011, 00:22
The only thing I took away from that book was how retarded the main character was. He wrote THE report on an EMP attack, the one the government follows. And yet he can't see the signs of the actual event when it happens for, what, a couple days??
If you had all the signs and symptoms of cancer, you'd try and justify it to yourself by any other diagnosis you can think of before accepting it. Human nature.
I guess don't really need to keep expressing the idea that the end of civilization will be more difficult than it is now.
mcantar18c
08-18-2011, 00:50
I guess don't really need to keep expressing the idea that the end of civilization will be more difficult than it is now.
Yes, you're right. But "more difficult" is not "too difficult to reasonably accomplish" with the right skillset.
hollohas
08-18-2011, 13:00
This kind of thing didn't really scare me until I had my daughter. Now she just turned 2 and this and similar scenarios scare the shit out of me. Caring for just my wife and I during TEOTWAWKT didn't seem that daunting but caring for a 2 year when SHTF? That's a whole 'nother ballgame that keeps me up at night. The logistics alone become 100 times more complicated.
I have to keep her safe no matter what. But how?
All those things we talk about doing if SHTF go out the window with a 2 year old. Bug In? That's easiest, especially with a toddler. But I live in suburbia and I am sure that any crisis over a couple weeks will become violent and dangerous where I live. Sure you can hold off BGs from breaking in by shooting them but can you keep them from burning your house down when they get pissed that you keep shooting down their robbery attempts? Nope.
So I will most likely have to Bug Out. Not a problem with adults. But harder and nearly impossible with toddlers without motorize transportation. Long distance and potentially necessary stealthy travel on foot is not possible with little kids. Bug Out on foot with adults is a valid option but with kids, a working vehicle is a must.
Supplies? She will need food a little different than I could survive on but it's doable. Stocking up on diapers, etc can be done too (she will be out of them soon anyway). And sure, I can keep plenty of supplies at home to last a long time or load enough to G.O.O.D. for a short period of time. But, the Bug In and Out problems I discussed above still apply. Not specific to kids but they complicate it a bit.
When SHTF will it happen within hours, days or weeks? If it happens quickly, will she be at daycare across town at the time? Will I be able to get to her? With my wife working across town we have agreed on a meeting point that we will get to on our own if forced to leave each other. But my daughter can't do that. I need to get to her.
Adults can arguably do just fine without a central location as many have discussed here. Many believe they can live off the land. But the foraging, scouting and defensive movements that are easy for adults and that provide a way to stay supplied and safe without a central location will be severely limited with little kids. A central, permanent and well supplied location is a must for little kids.
Long term (+1 year) survival? Will I have clothes, shoes, jackets, etc that fit her? She grows fast. Have those of you with kids thought about adding larger clothes and shoe sizes to your long term planning and storage? Not as easy as just having extra clothes for yourself is it...
EDIT: And I'll add the scariest thing for me, particular to an EMP situation like the book but not particular to kids like I posted above. I travel for work. I am out of the state at least 120 days per year. That's pretty sucky odds that I will not be able to get home and take care of my family in this type of situation...I need a new job...
got it yesterday around noon and finished it by 6....that has to be THE most depressing book i have ever read there isnt any little happy moments to break it up......
that being said im sending a copy to everyone in my family and the wife is forced to read it sat :D
Read it on a kindle. I liked it. Makes you think. Matthew Brackens third book touches some similar subjects. It takes the romance out of a
collapsed society.
Was a very good book. I'm reading the Deep Winter series right now. Another good read.
Well after all this talk about these books I just purchased One Second After from Amazon for $10.00....I'll give you my update when finished.
hghclsswhitetrsh
10-04-2011, 17:05
Just finished the book. Two words - holy shit!
Great-Kazoo
10-11-2011, 22:54
Well after all this talk about these books I just purchased One Second After from Amazon for $10.00....I'll give you my update when finished.
I download my books for free, do some searching and save your money for ammo.
I read it about 2-3 weeks ago. started it about 11pm as i don't sleep more than 2-3 hrs a night. Well it was hard to sleep once i got going. Had the battery not been low on the lap top i would have read through it in one sitting.
OSA and Lights Out were pretty good reads (thanks mcantar!). I didn't realize Lights Out was set in my neck of the woods, literally. It puts a whole new perspective on things when you can drive down the road and see the land where the story takes place.
I have a habit of not reading books. Haven't read any since my high school years. Decided to pick up this one, read it on the Kindle. Kinda scary ****, easy to pull off, hard to predict, easily a SHTF scenario..
mcantar18c
10-16-2011, 18:51
OSA and Lights Out were pretty good reads (thanks mcantar!). I didn't realize Lights Out was set in my neck of the woods, literally. It puts a whole new perspective on things when you can drive down the road and see the land where the story takes place.
[Beer]
If anybody else wants them I have PDF's of OSA and LO.
[Beer]
If anybody else wants them I have PDF's of OSA and LO.
I have the .epub and .mobi of OSA, has a few errors (for instance, it says .11 instead of .22 in there somewhere), not too many. Drop me a PM if you want 'em
Oy vey. Just finished One Second After. Now on second double Scotch. Scariest damn thing I've ever read. Wife is at Costo with orders to stock up. I'm not sure yet if I'll ask her to read it.
Glad this thread was bumped, I kinda forgot about reading this one, I am going to the library to check it out this week.
I wonder if it is on the kindle. Gonna check it out.
gnihcraes
09-29-2012, 21:04
Oh vey. Just finished One Second After. Now on second double Scotch. Scariest damn thing I've ever read. Wife is at Costo with orders to stock up. I'm not sure yet if I'll ask her to read it.
Wife should read it. Mine did and it helped with my prepping.
It was a similar story after Hurrican Hugo in 89. I was stationed at Charleston AFB, SC and the roads were blocked for days with trees, downed power lines, shrimp boats, etc..
It is a lot of fun camping out in your own home for 13 days with no electricity!
Hugo was a beast. My dad was stationed at Ft. Jackson as a Drill Sergant. My mom and brother were already at the barracks, me and dad slept tucked up under and underpass on I-20 in his military issued sleeping bag. Shit got real serious too fast for us to make it to the barracks. I will never forget that night. It was burned into my brain, and I was only 4 years old.
anyone have a copy of this they want to unload for a decent price? I would rather give my money to a board member.
anyone have a copy of this they want to unload for a decent price? I would rather give my money to a board member.
Have a kindle?
Zundfolge
09-29-2012, 23:04
All I've gleaned from all these TEOTWAWKI books and movies and such is that I have no intention of surviving TEOTWAWKI.
The minute it becomes clear to me that society has collapsed, I intend to take out my vengeance upon every liberal in the immediate vicinity until someone takes me out and I can go on to the next world which will be a damn sight better than this one.
All I've gleaned from all these TEOTWAWKI books and movies and such is that I have no intention of surviving TEOTWAWKI.
The minute it becomes clear to me that society has collapsed, I intend to take out my vengeance upon every liberal in the immediate vicinity until someone takes me out and I can go on to the next world which will be a damn sight better than this one.
Nah, don't do that. Be a part of the solution with a like minded group of people.
Just ordered a copy from abebooks.com for $7.77 shipped to my door. Today must be my lucky day!
netsecsys
09-30-2012, 22:21
+1 on Bracken. In this order:
Enemies Foreign and Domestic
Domestic Enemies
Foreign Enemies and Traitors
Scary seeing some of the thoughts of the writer starting to come to real-life in regards to illegal changes to immigration policies by the left
+1 on Bracken. In this order:
Enemies Foreign and Domestic
Domestic Enemies
Foreign Enemies and Traitors
Scary seeing some of the thoughts of the writer starting to come to real-life in regards to illegal changes to immigration policies by the left
I agree.
Great-Kazoo
10-01-2012, 07:37
Have a kindle?
I do. Read 1sec after already. However not opposed to having in the library.
Zundfolge
10-01-2012, 13:50
Nah, don't do that. Be a part of the solution with a like minded group of people.
I guess my point is that I'm going to spend my energy and efforts in trying to PREVENT TEOTWAWKI, but once it happens I could care less about survival. I was born in latter 20th century United States of America ... a place with high speed internet, HD television, hot & cold running water and free market capitalism ... I'm not going to live in a backward third world shit hole.
I guess my point is that I'm going to spend my energy and efforts in trying to PREVENT TEOTWAWKI, but once it happens I could care less about survival. I was born in latter 20th century United States of America ... a place with high speed internet, HD television, hot & cold running water and free market capitalism ... I'm not going to live in a backward third world shit hole.
I can't entirely disagree with that... but if it does happen, I'll still do my best to "live" as comfortably and safely as I can.
I'm afraid to think that a lot of people will have the same recognition when they realize there's no "end in sight", and things won't be back to the way they used to be... A lot of them will lose their sense of community and morality and will take it out on strangers violently. Others might just collapse internally and take it out on themselves via suicide, murder-suicide, etc.. Regardless of possibilities and "what ifs", TEOTWAWKI will be a devastating turn of events we can only pray doesn't happen in our lifetimes, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be prepared for a few months of self sufficiency if necessary.
GilpinGuy
10-02-2012, 01:59
I guess my point is that I'm going to spend my energy and efforts in trying to PREVENT TEOTWAWKI, but once it happens I could care less about survival. I was born in latter 20th century United States of America ... a place with high speed internet, HD television, hot & cold running water and free market capitalism ... I'm not going to live in a backward third world shit hole.
Cool with me (no offense, more for the rest of us) but it just struck me strange that someone posting in a Survival/Prep forum would think this way.
I don't know because I've never been there, but I think you'd have a much different perspective if you haven't had a meal or any water for several days. Even more so if you have dependents counting on you. I think you would then suddenly care very much about survival. Maybe you would just go on a suicide mission and get yourself killed in a murderous rampage, I don't know. My guess is that the vast majority of mentally healthy people wouldn't do this.
Basically, you stated that you've been spoiled your whole life and wouldn't want to live in a shithole (aka not spoiled with internet, HD TV, running water, etc.). No offense (again) but many of us here are spoiled and don't even realize it.
Most humans on this earth live in that shithole right now....so you'd just off yourself if it got that bad? I doubt it, but what do I know.
People change quickly when their basic needs are denied. Let's hope we never have have to see if we can handle it.[Beer]
Zundfolge
10-03-2012, 08:12
Let me be clear here, I'm not talking about Obama being re-elected or a freak snow storm that knocks out power and locks the city down for a week or a big stock market crash that erases my IRA and 401k, I'm talking about a cataclysmic event that shuts the lights off and they ain't never coming back on ... where the only option is to "run to the hills" and live like its the early 1800s for the rest of our lives. No sir, I'm not doing that. And if I believe that cataclysm was brought about on purpose, I intend to do whatever I can to punish those that did it on the way out.
I read the survival/prep stories to learn how to be prepared for that freak snow storm where I'll be without power for a week or two, or if my car breaks down in the middle of nowhere and I need to camp out for a couple days ... or for tips on how to live super frugally if I lost my job and couldn't find one for over a year. But I ain't here to learn how to re-seed the planet and re-boot civilization, I'll leave that the young'ns :)
I guess my response is because a lot of folk here spend a lot of time thinking about the "whats" of survival without thinking about the "whys".
USAFGopherMike
01-13-2013, 21:11
OSA definitely changed me. I read it in about 14 hours while on alert. Like many others, I couldn't put it down. Going to read LO and Patriots next and insisting the wife does the same. Beginning to gather supplies. I'll be staying in while waiting for the initial craziness to subside, then heading to a place with good water supply.
82ndShooter
01-13-2013, 21:16
Check out "Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse". Another great read!!!!
USAFGopherMike
01-13-2013, 21:19
Check out "Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse". Another great read!!!!
Already have it ordered. Thanks. I read this whole 14 page thread.
blacklabel
01-13-2013, 21:24
I think I'll start re-reading OSA tonight. I need to rekindle my desire to prep.
I think I'll start re-reading OSA tonight. I need to rekindle my desire to prep.
That'll do it.
Good thread, I'll have to read some of these books since I've read none. Is the owner of this (Littleton) survival store on AR-15.co?
http://rapidfirebunker.net/
hollohas
01-14-2013, 14:42
Good thread, I'll have to read some of these books since I've read none. Is the owner of this (Littleton) survival store on AR-15.co?
http://rapidfirebunker.net/
Yup. http://www.ar-15.co/forums/178-Rapid-Fire-Bunker
Great store.
USAFGopherMike
01-24-2013, 23:14
I'm reading Lights Out now, about halfway through it.. great character development but hasn't quite caught my attention like OSA. Patriots should be arriving in the mail any day now.
netsecsys
01-24-2013, 23:30
The first book of the following series was written in 2000 and is frighteningly close to the direction we are heading...
http://www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/bookefad.htm
Great-Kazoo
01-24-2013, 23:38
The first book of the following series was written in 2000 and is frighteningly close to the direction we are heading...
http://www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/bookefad.htm
Tried slogging through it 2x. Both times i came to the conclusion the fed guy was such a scumbag i couldn't go on. I don't deal or associate with scum bags like that in reallife, no need to read about one in a book. Bad enough America is more fascinated with who wants to be a survivor while marrying a millionare with the kids in the hall, than they are with the safety & security of this country.
netsecsys
01-25-2013, 00:04
Tried slogging through it 2x. Both times i came to the conclusion the fed guy was such a scumbag i couldn't go on. I don't deal or associate with scum bags like that in reallife, no need to read about one in a book. Bad enough America is more fascinated with who wants to be a survivor while marrying a millionare with the kids in the hall, than they are with the safety & security of this country.
Push through it..the second and third books are a reflection of where we are heading as a nation if the leftist/progressive/socialist agenda continues to win...
Great-Kazoo
01-25-2013, 08:33
Push through it..the second and third books are a reflection of where we are heading as a nation if the leftist/progressive/socialist agenda continues to win...
Tried it. If a book sucks (to me) my brain off switch, ignores anything else they write. 1sec after and LO show a downward spiral that comes from "organized" community, Law & Order failing and sinking in to anarchy , brutality and outright savagery. If you do not have a basic plan either alone or with like minded people, you will succumb to a violent, if not disease ridden end.
Or you can bitch about the Xbox and internet not working. That mentality from younger people and even older ones is how we are where we are at this point in time.
netsecsys
01-31-2013, 21:00
I guess what I got out of reading the trilogy is the realization that it is not just about prepping but also making a stand in our relationships with our elected representatives. The series alludes to the possible outcome of were we are heading as a country with Progressives in charge..scary shit (more scary than EMP/SHTF/SUPERSTORM scenario I have read about including One second after, Patriots, Lights Out, Unintended Consequences). We are all f*cked if we put our heads down and keep prepping only. I was under the impression that this thread was about waking up...
USAFGopherMike
01-31-2013, 22:17
Revolution? Civil War? Hang a few congresspeople? People can bitch on forums all day and write letters to representatives only to get a canned reply, but what does it take to get them to wake up? As long as idiots like Feinstein and Pelosi are allowed to represent anyone, we're in deep shit. (To all you three-letter types, I'm not encouraging violence)
netsecsys
01-31-2013, 22:35
No shit..the progressive movement will destroy the US if given a chance (and we are moving there quickly).
The best we can do right now is write and call our representatives to let them know we will take their seats away (or at least spend all of our spare time, our voices, and our funds to de-throne them). We keep prepping but we cannot let up on voicing and voting them out any chance we get. If we just put our heads down and not keep the pressure on, we will lose for sure...
DireWolf
02-03-2013, 23:46
never heard of OSA before, but just picked up a copy....kindle wireless delivery is awesome...
USAFGopherMike
02-04-2013, 05:24
never heard of OSA before, but just picked up a copy....kindle wireless delivery is awesome...
Post your thoughts when you finish it today.
Limited GM
02-04-2013, 22:29
Just finished it. Wow.
SA Friday
02-04-2013, 23:36
Just finished it. Wow.
Ya. Kind of an eye opener, isn't it. Beans, bullets, and bandaids...
USAFGopherMike
02-05-2013, 12:13
Ya. Kind of an eye opener, isn't it. Beans, bullets, and bandaids...
+1... Water, meds, seeds, and a plan.
DireWolf
02-08-2013, 01:42
Post your thoughts when you finish it today.
Just got through it, would have been faster if I didn't have so much work/flying at the moment. That was one intense read, and really drives home something that I was aware of but in a slightly dissociated fashion...Overall, the whole scenario seems extremely feasible, even with different root-cause events (e.i. large-scale cyber-attack).
The other thing it did was make me realize how woefully inadequate my current supply level is, even considering a currently respectable armory, first-aid and wilderness gear. Methinks that given what I would now consider as basic prudence, I'm probably going to be fairly broke for a while :)
What is also frustrating is that there are certain types of supplies which I have thought of adding to my kit already, but have no idea how to go about procuring - broad spectrum macro-antibiotics and PK's mainly. Something tells me that I'm not going to be able to just get a perscription for those in any quantity, let alone enough to have packed away...
One other thought I had was that while I have an absolute shit-ton of books in electronic format, everything from survival to homesteading and other misc. things, it might not be a bad idea to buy hardcopies of some, and for the others which are hard to find, print out a few copies and put in sealable/zipper binders...
USAFGopherMike
02-08-2013, 01:50
Just got through it, would have been faster if I didn't have so much work/flying at the moment. That was one intense read, and really drives home something that I was aware of but in a slightly dissociated fashion...Overall, the whole scenario seems extremely feasible, even with different root-cause events (e.i. large-scale cyber-attack).
The other thing it did was make me realize how woefully inadequate my current supply level is, even considering a currently respectable armory, first-aid and wilderness gear. Methinks that given what I would now consider as basic prudence, I'm probably going to be fairly broke for a while :)
What is also frustrating is that there are certain types of supplies which I have thought of adding to my kit already, but have no idea how to go about procuring - broad spectrum macro-antibiotics and PK's mainly. Something tells me that I'm not going to be able to just get a perscription for those in any quantity, let alone enough to have packed away...
One other thought I had was that while I have an absolute shit-ton of books in electronic format, everything from survival to homesteading and other misc. things, it might not be a bad idea to buy hardcopies of some, and for the others which are hard to find, print out a few copies and put in sealable/zipper binders...
I've contemplated the same things. The hard copy how to bible if you will is definitely a good idea. I'm focused on meds, first aid, and water for now. Ammo of course, but it's hard to get. Time to start stockpiling seeds also.
DireWolf
02-08-2013, 02:12
I've contemplated the same things. The hard copy how to bible if you will is definitely a good idea. I'm focused on meds, first aid, and water for now. Ammo of course, but it's hard to get. Time to start stockpiling seeds also.
Fortunately, ammo is one thing I don't really have a problem with...For the most part I've been treating it like a 401k at the moment and just leaving it be, but I've also been feeding it for a while now, with at least 50% of any ammo purchase over the last few years going into the pile...even have a few cases of 118LR shipping in a week or two :)
Meds, first-aid, water & food are also my current focus, and finishing a few more rifles that have been in partial stages for a while now...(necessary for the appropriate rifle/ammo ratio ;) )
Seeds are something I'lll have to reasearch, as I'm not really up to speed on what grows where....
SA Friday
02-08-2013, 14:29
Fortunately, ammo is one thing I don't really have a problem with...For the most part I've been treating it like a 401k at the moment and just leaving it be, but I've also been feeding it for a while now, with at least 50% of any ammo purchase over the last few years going into the pile...even have a few cases of 118LR shipping in a week or two :)
Meds, first-aid, water & food are also my current focus, and finishing a few more rifles that have been in partial stages for a while now...(necessary for the appropriate rifle/ammo ratio ;) )
Seeds are something I'lll have to reasearch, as I'm not really up to speed on what grows where....
Seeds... 1st rule, organic or don't buy them. Most of the modified ones won't work for seed collection and subsequent reseeding after one or two generations. If you can find heirloom seeds, they are the best. There's a ton more info on seeds out there. It's a lot like firearms subsection of our society.
blacklabel
02-09-2013, 14:32
Another book along the lines of One Second After is Going Home (http://www.amazon.com/Going-Home-A-American/dp/1479743232/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1360441822&sr=8-1&keywords=going+home+american).
Imagine you're driving down the interstate, it's Friday and all you can think about is getting your weekend started. Then to begin the ruination of your much anticipated weekend the grating tone of the Emergency Alert System flashes over the radio, then promptly dies. This is the beginning of a 250 mile odyssey for Morgan Carter. Morgan works on the road and finds himself far from home when his car dies, as well as his Blackberry and every other piece of electronics he has. With no idea what has occurred he reluctantly finds himself on shanks' mare carrying that ridiculous pack that everyone made fun of him for keeping in the car. Morgan has to find his way across the state of Florida, from Tallahassee to the heart of the state in Lake County. Along his way he has to seek out food, water and shelter where he can, not to mention keeping himself from being killed by any number of now scared and desperate people. During his travels he will try and help where he can, but that can turn out to be a costly mistake. We live in a wonderfully modern society where anything we want is a mouse click away. The lights come on with the flip of a switch and even a child can turn on the faucet at the sink and water always comes out. But what if it all went away? Could you face what Morgan faces, could you make the decisions he has to make? Life and sometimes death in the blink of an eye, could you do it?
I read it in a couple of days. It's a pretty good book and I appreciated the digs that he got in on Patriots: A Novel of Survival in the Coming Collapse.
Need to get the house setup and apparently need a hell of a GHB.
StagLefty
02-10-2013, 11:35
Thanks for the Going Home lead. $3.59 from Amazon for the Kindle.
Doubledamage
02-14-2013, 22:17
I've read both and they are excellent. OSA gets you thinking in a prepper mindset and The Road makes you think about long term survival knowledge.
Aside from Left Behind (couldn't get into it) any other suggestions on other similar books that are decent?
Patriot Dawn?
299 days?
USAFGopherMike
02-15-2013, 06:02
I've read both and they are excellent. OSA gets you thinking in a prepper mindset and The Road makes you think about long term survival knowledge.
Aside from Left Behind (couldn't get into it) any other suggestions on other similar books that are decent?
Patriot Dawn?
299 days?
Lights Out
Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse
clodhopper
02-15-2013, 12:57
I recently read The Passage (Justin Cronin) and am on the next book in the trilogy. Yeah, it is not a typical social collapse theme, more of a govt plague turns people into vampire type of monster sort of story, but the majority of the story revolves around the survivors and takes place 100 years after nearly everyone in the US is wiped out. Long book, good read.
clodhopper
02-15-2013, 13:01
Some other ideas:
http://www.squidoo.com/online-post-apocalyptic-fiction
http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=175434
I read Starvation Ridge and liked it.
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 13:41
I'm going to start up Starvation Ridge. It sounds pretty awesome.
tactical_2012
02-15-2013, 14:28
Who is the author of "Going Home"
StagLefty
02-15-2013, 18:42
Who is the author of "Going Home"
A. American
blacklabel
02-15-2013, 20:22
A. American
It's actually Angry American shortened to A. American. [ROFL1]
Jeepaxle
02-16-2013, 16:17
AMERICAN APOCALYPSE BY NOVA is well worth reading...I've read the first 4 (ebooks) and they are entertaining as hell and make you think about what it might be like in a financially broken country.
"This is a fast-paced, action-packed thriller set in America at the beginning of a socioeconomic collapse. Although an innocent casualty of the chaos, one young man must discover his inner strength and defiant courage as he comes of age learning how to survive in the wasteland of failing services, unemployment, and violence. With the economy in free fall, the government crippled by indecision, the streets taken over by new political party's, and the fragile institutions of civilization crumbling, a young man finds himself homeless and alone on the outskirts of Washington, D.C., facing certain death unless he can master survival skills he never imagined needing. Fending off violent citizens in an urban landscape that is gradually sliding into looting and mayhem, the protagonist emerges as an ultimate force of justice in a lawless land. This compelling, fast-paced novel pulls readers in and lets them experience firsthand what life in the United States will be like as its teetering society begins to fall."
I read One Second After a while ago, perhaps a year even. I'll agree that it's a fairly good book to introduce someone to the importance of prepping. And it does so in a semi-likely and somewhat plausible manner. I did however find it to be a book that in my opinion helps a person build a large list of "things that don't work well when the SHTF". Maybe more so than a list of things that are likely to actually work or be possible in a SHTF scenario. While it displays some of the positive aspects of being part of a small community (though in a very ideal manner) I think it inadvertently showed all the downsides to it as well. I think for me it reinforced the idea that while there are benefits to being in a large neighborhood or small community, the downsides involving human behavior and a sense of "the committee decides" can quickly ruin survival or make things much more difficult.
Also, I find it ironic that a lot of people criticize books like Patriots for being overly idealistic when I thought OSA was *at least* as idealistic in nature. Either way a decent book to read and pretty good one to use to indoctrinate folks into the fold.
Singlestack
02-25-2013, 07:48
I'm 95% done with OSA, and it is pretty dark in parts. I have no doubt that nursing homes and care facilities could become hellholes in no time. What I liked about it was the likely effects on average non-prepper people (i.e. the strong majority of the population). I liked Patriots, but that is from the POV of a well-equipped prepper group. Best part to me was the prepping details that Rawles went into.
If you like EMP survival books, one that I can recommend is the Pulse - told from the POV of boaters.
I just finished a series of books, geared towards a forced "peak oil" situation and how things would possibly go down in Europe due to "terrorist" attacks against the global oil industry.
Last Light by Alex Scarrow, and
Afterlight by Alex Scarrow.
Once you get past the British English, there is a bit of info in there that is worth reading about. If anything it makes you glad we can have fireams in the U.S..
jonny450r
03-06-2013, 21:25
Read osa in two days cause I couldn't put it down (I don't like to read ever). Great read but I was all good until I read the afterword and then it was an eye opener that it could happen and what will follow. I'm thinking about getting lights out and maybe the patriot.
sent from my fancy dancy phone that'll soon be outdated or broken
netsecsys
03-06-2013, 21:36
Just got done reading book 1 of 299 Days. Good reading so far...
blacklabel
03-06-2013, 21:42
Just got done reading book 1 of 299 Days. Good reading so far...
I want to read those but I'm not going to pay what they want per book when there are 10 books (if I remember right) in the series.
netsecsys
03-06-2013, 22:05
I want to read those but I'm not going to pay what they want per book when there are 10 books (if I remember right) in the series.
I felt I got $13 worth of entertainment from the first book. Well worth the price of a movie ticket. Wife is starting to read it now ;)
buckshotbarlow
03-17-2013, 21:14
I tell ya all, THE ROAD is fking depressing...man trying to make it through and it's harder then hell. One second after at least had a glimmer of hope...
Jeffrey Lebowski
03-19-2013, 22:05
If you had all the signs and symptoms of cancer, you'd try and justify it to yourself by any other diagnosis you can think of before accepting it. Human nature.
I didn't.
I'm afraid to think that a lot of people will have the same recognition when they realize there's no "end in sight", and things won't be back to the way they used to be... A lot of them will lose their sense of community and morality and will take it out on strangers violently. Others might just collapse internally and take it out on themselves via suicide, murder-suicide, etc.. Regardless of possibilities and "what ifs", TEOTWAWKI will be a devastating turn of events we can only pray doesn't happen in our lifetimes, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be prepared for a few months of self sufficiency if necessary.
I agree on all points. It would be seriously scary. I do like to think much as in "OSA" - good folks would pull together.
I tell ya all, THE ROAD is fking depressing...man trying to make it through and it's harder then hell. One second after at least had a glimmer of hope...
Read this one too - here's a world I don't want to live in. It wouldn't be suicide, but when things look bleak, I'm looking for a hell of a party or a hell of a battle. $0.02
But - see my first point. I feel I'm already living on borrowed time.
It looks like you will not have to read Lights Out. They are turning it into a DVD.
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/lights-out-saga
muddywings
04-17-2013, 10:05
So just to jump in with 1/2 cent...
In the past few months I have read:
OSA-good, bit dark but not bad
Lights Out-personally, I liked it better than OSA, not as dark, liked the characters more I guess
Going Home-great, can't wait for sequel
Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse-good, bit more religious than my liking but this is what I fear the most (at least the causation of a SHTF event)
Patriot Dawn-ok, very geared toward ground tactics (has a lot of detailed description of terrain as battles are unfolding and my mind doesn't visualize it well, so I start skimming, looking for the good stuff)
Enemies Foreign and Domestic-Good (skimmed the first few pages of the sequel, probably won't go there)
THanks for all the leads!!
edit:
BTW, here's a good source: http://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/shtf
blacklabel
05-06-2013, 17:58
I read the first 299 Days over the past couple of days and it's well worth what Amazon is asking for the Kindle edition. I'm excited to get caught up on the series now.
Great-Kazoo
05-06-2013, 19:00
I read the first 299 Days over the past couple of days and it's well worth what Amazon is asking for the Kindle edition. I'm excited to get caught up on the series now.
You do know you can "Share" titles. I have one you might want to check out pm me.
OSA was started in the late evening and i fell asleep before i finished it as dark was fading in to the west.
USAFGopherMike
05-07-2013, 01:57
You gotta finish it Jim. Great book. I too finished Patriots recently and as mentioned above, a little too heavy on the religion. For those that are big on the Christian faith, it will mean more to them but when the world goes to hell in a handbasket people are going to need something to keep them going. For some, it is their belief system or moral compass. For me, it will be a willingness and drive to survive; something I picked up along the way. Patriots was also very big on gear description, talking about what the group procured prepper wise and how they trained. For those looking to be part of a commune or survival group, it has some added benefit from a planning standpoint.
Patriots was soooo lame......communists eating babys ::::rolleyes::::::
jonny450r
05-07-2013, 08:59
finished lights out a couple days ago. Kinda long but decent read at least for me. But good over all.
sent from my fancy dancy phone that'll soon be outdated or broken
Now I want to read One Second After.
USAFGopherMike
05-08-2013, 19:21
It'll be one of the best books you've read in some time Sparky.
Great-Kazoo
05-08-2013, 22:12
You gotta finish it Jim. Great book. I too finished Patriots recently and as mentioned above, a little too heavy on the religion. For those that are big on the Christian faith, it will mean more to them but when the world goes to hell in a handbasket people are going to need something to keep them going. For some, it is their belief system or moral compass. For me, it will be a willingness and drive to survive; something I picked up along the way. Patriots was also very big on gear description, talking about what the group procured prepper wise and how they trained. For those looking to be part of a commune or survival group, it has some added benefit from a planning standpoint.
I finished it when i woke up 1.5 hrs later.
USAFGopherMike
05-09-2013, 13:51
What did you think?
Great-Kazoo
05-09-2013, 14:07
What did you think?
Think? considering it was some time ago it's still a vivid dot somewhere in the brain cavity.
SPOILER ALERT. don't read anymore if you haven't read it.
His kid kicking it was tough. Overall it's something a lot of folks need to consider as Plan A. Granted the whole interaction between different "opinions" in a large group can and will cause friction, if not outright dissent. HOWEVER, those folks can either agree to disagree, or move to the other side of town. I could see the firefight happening on the local I-25 overpass. Besides guns you need a few knowledgeable medical, water, and other skilled folks
USAFGopherMike
05-10-2013, 08:04
Definitely a mix of knowledge in multiple personnel. One man can't do it all.
muddywings
05-26-2013, 20:31
Thanks for the Going Home lead. $3.59 from Amazon for the Kindle.
book 2 is out!!!
http://www.amazon.com/Surviving-Home-Going-ebook/dp/B00CNXE8H8/ref=pd_ys_sf_s_154606011_a1_n_2_p
blacklabel
05-26-2013, 22:41
book 2 is out!!!
http://www.amazon.com/Surviving-Home-Going-ebook/dp/B00CNXE8H8/ref=pd_ys_sf_s_154606011_a1_n_2_p
And I know what the next book I read will be.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
Tinelement
05-26-2013, 22:54
Looks like I'll be checking into the Going Home books as well!
StagLefty
05-27-2013, 08:14
Ordered this just for old time sake : http://www.amazon.com/M16A1-Rifle-Operation-Preventive-Maintenance/dp/1616088648/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1369663996&sr=1-1&keywords=M16A1
muddywings
06-01-2013, 17:15
Half way through "Holding their Own" right now. So far really impressed. Pretty much how I could see it going down: financial collapse with a terrorist kicker which accelerates the process. I like the characters and the flow. so far so good. I also think there are 2-3 follow ups to it.
if anyone can share going home on kindle id appreciate it!
blacklabel
06-01-2013, 18:09
if anyone can share going home on kindle id appreciate it!
PM me your info and I'll lend it to you.
Can anyone do the same for me for the sequel?
thanks black i sent you over a pm!
started get home this morning im about 55% through....its really good so far kinda gear heavy but thats ok prob wont have the wife read it though
Send me a pm with your email...looks like I can loan it one time (the sequel, Surviving Home).
Send me a pm with your email...looks like I can loan it one time (the sequel, Surviving Home).
how was it??
USAFGopherMike
06-08-2013, 02:24
I need to get on it. Falling behind on my reading. Reading a book for work right now and it's been slow, but interesting.
blacklabel
06-08-2013, 08:14
Send me a pm with your email...looks like I can loan it one time (the sequel, Surviving Home).
I missed this and ended up buying the Kindle version so if anyone wants to read it there are a couple of us that can loan it.
blacklabel
06-08-2013, 08:17
how was it??
It frustrated the piss out of me. It didn't have as much gear porn and without the linear gotta get home drive of the first book it felt like it wandered a lot. That said, pm me if you want to read it.
DireWolf
06-08-2013, 11:11
how was it??
I finished it earlier this week and thought it was pretty good....
blacklabel
06-13-2013, 15:44
I've books 2 through 6 of the 299 Days series that I can loan out. It's been a pretty decent series so far.
black can u lend me "surviving home"
buckshotbarlow
06-17-2013, 07:47
99% done with going home...great read! Thanks for the recommendations. Just bought the sequel....hopefully it's just as good!
kawiracer14
06-17-2013, 10:56
Anyone have a copy of One Second After on kindle that they can lend?
blacklabel
06-17-2013, 11:43
Anyone have a copy of One Second After on kindle that they can lend?
If you look around, you can find the PDF and convert it to mobi to read on a Kindle.
buckshotbarlow
06-19-2013, 09:41
Finished surviving home, rather disappointed in the ending...i'm expecting a 3rd novel...
blacklabel
06-19-2013, 13:21
Finished surviving home, rather disappointed in the ending...i'm expecting a 3rd novel...
You'll find that a lot of these survival books leave things wide open so they can sell more books. This, 299 Days, Archer Garrett's series. It's annoying but they keep sucking money out of my wallet.
blacklabel
06-19-2013, 13:25
Throw Joe Nobody on that list too.
If anyone wants to read these series, let me know and I'll loan them out rather than you forking over the cash.
buckshotbarlow
06-19-2013, 14:19
You'll find that a lot of these survival books leave things wide open so they can sell more books. This, 299 Days, Archer Garrett's series. It's annoying but they keep sucking money out of my wallet.
Not really true, at least in patriots it ended clean, along with 1 second after.
blacklabel
06-19-2013, 16:29
Not really true, at least in patriots it ended clean, along with 1 second after.
There are certainly those with clean endings.
i liked surviving home i actually liked it more then get home it was a lot less gear queer....some of the scenes were brutal particularly the pig /dhs guy..... im looking fwd to the third one for sure i really like the characters in this series (sarge and the boys are great)
the interaction with the neighbors is interesting also something that i never really thought about but im sure a lot of my neighbors would NOT pull together and help out they would just sit in there house and wait for the .gov to come and help
spoiler
how did you guys feel about him killing pats entire fam?
blacklabel
06-19-2013, 16:57
That was a strong move. He justified it well but I don't know if I'd have the balls to play it that way.
DireWolf
06-19-2013, 18:33
I just finished reading all of the "long lonely road" books currently available, and while the writing style is VERY different from just about any other books I've read, I ended up getting into it and went through all eight books (about each $3 on kindle) in about a week....I really liked this series, but YMMV....
blacklabel
06-19-2013, 19:17
I just finished reading all of the "long lonely road" books currently available, and while the writing style is VERY different from just about any other books I've read, I ended up getting into it and went through all eight books (about each $3 on kindle) in about a week....I really liked this series, but YMMV....
Can you loan me the first in the series?
buckshotbarlow
06-19-2013, 20:10
That was a strong move. He justified it well but I don't know if I'd have the balls to play it that way.
He certainly made a statement, and solved 2 problems at 1 time. I agree with another post about the characters...kinda a mix between a couple of other books. The whole story line plays good, and some of the gear stuff is well, interesting. I like the DHS as the bad guy though...
DireWolf
06-20-2013, 02:54
Can you loan me the first in the series?
No prob...just PM me with your email and I'll loan you the first two books....
Great-Kazoo
06-20-2013, 03:51
try these 2 on for size. Book 1 when i read it had book 2 included. Not sure of that is still valid.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Survivors-Book-After-ebook/dp/B0049B31FW/ref=sr_1_2?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1371721863&sr=1-2&keywords=life+after+war
http://www.amazon.com/On-Road-Book-After-ebook/dp/B004BDOTZE/ref=sr_1_6?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1371721648&sr=1-6&keywords=life+after+war
blacklabel
06-20-2013, 06:39
try these 2 on for size. Book 1 when i read it had book 2 included. Not sure of that is still valid.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Survivors-Book-After-ebook/dp/B0049B31FW/ref=sr_1_2?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1371721863&sr=1-2&keywords=life+after+war
http://www.amazon.com/On-Road-Book-After-ebook/dp/B004BDOTZE/ref=sr_1_6?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1371721648&sr=1-6&keywords=life+after+war
Thanks for the suggestions Jim. I'll get these knocked out in the next week or so.
DireWolf
06-20-2013, 10:35
try these 2 on for size. Book 1 when i read it had book 2 included. Not sure of that is still valid.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Survivors-Book-After-ebook/dp/B0049B31FW/ref=sr_1_2?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1371721863&sr=1-2&keywords=life+after+war
http://www.amazon.com/On-Road-Book-After-ebook/dp/B004BDOTZE/ref=sr_1_6?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1371721648&sr=1-6&keywords=life+after+war
I second this recommendation....There are actually 4 books now, and I thought they were all pretty good....
Great-Kazoo
06-20-2013, 11:12
I second this recommendation....There are actually 4 books now, and I thought they were all pretty good....
You have 3 & 4 you might be able to "lend". I'm not an amazon prime member.
It's a dark story line. Especially once you step back and remember it is written by a female author.
DireWolf
06-20-2013, 11:57
You have 3 & 4 you might be able to "lend". I'm not an amazon prime member.
It's a dark story line. Especially once you step back and remember it is written by a female author.
Jim, PM me your email info and I'll loan you books 3 & 4
Great-Kazoo
06-21-2013, 15:55
Jim, PM me your email info and I'll loan you books 3 & 4
Started book 3 @ 10:15 pm and finished it @ 1:18 am, including a rocky road mi nite snack break. Would have read 4 but a busy schedule with people stopping by today. I'll run through 4 in about 2 hrs, if that.
Those who have not had a chance to download 1 & 2 for free from amazon DO IT!
Anyone have a copy of under the dome on kindle they could lend me
buckshotbarlow
07-01-2013, 08:11
Pounded through patriot dawn...great book! thxs for the recommendations...i'm onto the 299 series...
zzzippper
07-03-2013, 13:34
Who is the author of The Road? I can't find it on Amazon.
hollohas
07-03-2013, 13:41
Who is the author of The Road? I can't find it on Amazon.
Cormac McCarthy (http://www.amazon.com/The-Road-ebook/dp/B000OI0G1Q/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&sr=1-1&qid=1372880509)
zzzippper
07-03-2013, 14:04
Thanks, I found it the first time but didn't believe it would be the kind of book that would land on Oprah's (bleech) book club.
Is anyone reading 299 days series? I'm too lazy to read 24 pages in this thread to find out. http://www.amazon.com/299-Days-The-Preparation-Volume/dp/0615680682/ref=pd_cart_recs4?ie=UTF8&refRID=04RF3HN37C62AKDEHQJJ
blacklabel
07-03-2013, 17:26
Thanks, I found it the first time but didn't believe it would be the kind of book that would land on Oprah's (bleech) book club.
Is anyone reading 299 days series? I'm too lazy to read 24 pages in this thread to find out. http://www.amazon.com/299-Days-The-Preparation-Volume/dp/0615680682/ref=pd_cart_recs4?ie=UTF8&refRID=04RF3HN37C62AKDEHQJJ
I've got books 2 through 6 that I can lend. They're a bit repetitive and a little hokey but I'm loving them so far.
muddywings
07-28-2013, 11:23
"The Pulse of Allah" was a very interesting mix of SHTF and Tom Clancy. It had a bunch of sub-stories that sometimes intermixed. They ranged from fighter pilots, to sub captains, SEALs, and then farmers in CO maintaing crops, students trying to get to loved ones, and a truck driver trying to reach family w/ no ground transportation.
"TWOTWAKI: Beacon's Story" was fair. It was a bit stiff and didn't get me real excited about the primary characters. Not bad is all it gets from me though.
netsecsys
07-29-2013, 22:26
I am on book six of the 299Days series. Met the author this weekend at the Oath Keepers Rally in Idaho. Great guy and even had a fake beard on for disguise ;)
Peter Boyles was talking about this on the radio today.
EMP is line of sight so is radar so I found this chart.
http://www.tscm.com/rdr-hori.pdf
and this website - I haven't had time to read it yet.
http://www.empactamerica.org/general_emp.php
USAFGopherMike
08-05-2013, 07:48
Radar one is outdated, but basic principle is accurate. Today's radars are more 'agile'.
A guy I work with wrote this:
Eminent Plague by Don Lowell published by Dorrance Publishing Co. inc. ISBN 978-1-4349-1166-7
Picked it up from amazon, going to see if it is any good.
I'm confused. I read books 1-4 of 299 days. So far so good. Just ordered books 5 and 6. So where is 7-10? Have they not been written yet?? Dis I miss something?
Thanks
anyone have a copy of lone survivor they could lend me on kindle?
netsecsys
08-17-2013, 09:59
I'm confused. I read books 1-4 of 299 days. So far so good. Just ordered books 5 and 6. So where is 7-10? Have they not been written yet?? Dis I miss something?
Thanks
All ten have been written. They are just making you "jones" for them... ;)
Great-Kazoo
08-17-2013, 11:07
anyone have a copy of lone survivor they could lend me on kindle?
you finish that one i suggested? after war?
Have to say damn you all for this thread.
Just finished One Second After. Damned good book!
Of course as I start stock piling my wife will probably think me crazy. But I'll show her when the zombies/Koreans/Chinese/terrorists/Canadians attack and we have a nice stockpile.
Mick-Boy
08-25-2013, 07:55
Of course as I start stock piling my wife will probably think me crazy. But I'll show her when the zombies/Koreans/Chinese/terrorists/Canadians attack and we have a nice stockpile.
Get her to read it. She may be leading the charge on emergency preparedness by the time she's done.
sellersm
09-04-2013, 11:58
Can anyone lend me "Lights Out" (by David Crawford) on Kindle? PM me, if you can... Thanks!
sellersm
09-11-2013, 12:48
The sequel to Surviving Home (by A. American) is now available for pre-order! "Escaping Home". Supposed to come out 30 Oct.
http://www.amazon.com/Escaping-Home-Novel-Survivalist-Series/dp/0142181293/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378741520&sr=8-1&keywords=escaping+home
muddywings
02-17-2014, 19:10
The sequel to Surviving Home (by A. American) is now available for pre-order! "Escaping Home". Supposed to come out 30 Oct.
http://www.amazon.com/Escaping-Home-Novel-Survivalist-Series/dp/0142181293/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378741520&sr=8-1&keywords=escaping+home
came here to post that it was out. guess I just found out late. Hell with it then.....bump ;)
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