View Full Version : Deputy Killers familys sues and wants an apology
Geology Rocks
02-15-2011, 19:16
Family of Deputy Brownlee's killer demanding an apology...RIDICULOUS..
The attorney for the family of a man who shot and killed a Weld County Sheriff's deputy demanded an apology from Sheriff John Cooke for the killing of the gunman and said the family's threat of a lawsuit is "not about the money."
Asked Thursday if he would write a letter of apology, Cooke simply stated: "No."
Denver attorney Michael Evans sent a notice early this week to Cooke and to the Greeley and Evans police departments warning that Rueben Reyes' family could file a civil lawsuit for $250,000 plus punitive damages unless they could reach a settlement.
Cooke responded that the case was a ploy for the attorney and the Reyes family to make some money.
On Nov. 23, at the end of a long police chase, police and Reyes scuffled where the cars had stopped in Evans. Reyes was able to get Deputy Sam Brownlee's service weapon and shot him three times, killing the sheriff's deputy. An Evans police officer immediately shot Reyes in the back three times, and he died later at North Colorado Medical Center.
In the notice this week, attorney Evans said the nature of the chase and the way it was handled, "aggravated the circumstances" leading to the death of Reyes. He also accused the officers at the scene of not offering help to Reyes in the form of CPR or first aid.
After Cooke said the notice was an attempt to make money, attorney Evans sent the e-mail letter to the sheriff, stating: "This case is not about the money. Its (sic) about the value of human life, or the complete disregard for it."
The attorney then told Cooke the Reyes family has agreed to release the sheriff's office from any civil lawsuit if the sheriff takes the following actions:
1. You will write a personal letter to the family apologizing for the loss of Mr. Reyes;
2. Promise to correct your agencies (sic) policies and procedures (which even your own investigative review panel agrees are faulty);
3. Discipline or terminate those individuals who are responsible choosing not to act to save Mr. Reyes' life at the scene.
Cooke said of the letter written to him: "It's very unethical to send me an e-mail like that. He knows I have an attorney, and they know they should deal with my attorney and not directly with me."
That first letter, the notice of claims, was originally sent to the Greeley City Attorney, Evans City Attorney and the Weld County Attorney.
Attorney Evans set a deadline of 5 p.m. Friday for Cooke to take action on the demands, and "If you don't accept, then I guess you would have to agree that its (sic) really not about the money after all."
yeah go pound some sand
joe
hurley842002
02-15-2011, 19:21
Damn, they were talking about this on Caplis and Silverman last week, and I meant to post up about it but forgot.
Like you said, these POS's need to go pound sand.
Rediculous indeed... You have to consider, though: the very family that PRODUCED the type of scum that would shoot a cop is, of course, the same that would think nothing of suing for money. They usually never blame the individual, but instead blame society or circumstance for their FAILURE at parenting and teaching simple freaking morals.
Stories like this really BURN me up. I wish we could do some street cleaning of people like this across the nation.
I have kids. And if my son was shot for shooting a cop I would have to say he got what he deserved... plain and simple.
Byte Stryke
02-15-2011, 19:37
I Concur.
The family needs to piss up a rope.
if it were me I would be holding the parents financially liable.
but that sort of logic doesn't exist in the real world.
jerrymrc
02-15-2011, 19:58
I am almost at a loss for words. Some things (and actions) in life truly escape me.
The sad thing is that the slain deputy's family get to have his death put back on the front burner.
I am almost at a loss for words. Some things (and actions) in life truly escape me.
The sad thing is that the slain deputy's family get to have his death put back on the front burner.
+1...Could not agree more. Makes me sick.
StagLefty
02-15-2011, 20:29
I don't even know how to respond to shit like this anymore [Bang]
2008f450
02-15-2011, 20:37
I say send the family a bill for the pursuit, the official funeral given to a fallen officer, and the cost to train a replacement officer. This family can go get fuct and I hope the lawyer gets shot by an illegal he helped keep out of jail. Im sick and tired of this shi*. Time to start holding the families of these scumbags responsible. [Rant1] Cold medicine kicking in Im getting really pissed off.
Geology Rocks
02-15-2011, 20:46
I have the attorneys info if anyone wants it...;)
joe
trlcavscout
02-15-2011, 20:51
I have the attorneys info if anyone wants it...;)
joe
Email sent to the POS! The county needs to counter sue then perform no knock raids everynight at 2 am for 6 months until they are all accidentally shot.
EDIT: I hope the lawyers house gets broke into while he is home and the cops don't respond.
Zundfolge
02-15-2011, 21:05
Were I king the entire Reyes family and their attorney would be put up against the wall.
I say send the family a bill for the pursuit, the official funeral given to a fallen officer, and the cost to train a replacement officer. This family can go get fuct and I hope the lawyer gets shot by an illegal he helped keep out of jail.
+1 Best thing I've heard all day!
I say file a counter-suit for law enforcement costs, damages to the officers, stress, rehabilitation, therapy etc etc.
Tally up a million dollar bill and send that to their sorry ass. demand they kill themselves or move out of the state or else they will proceed with the lawsuit.
Dusty Johnson
02-15-2011, 22:11
The Reyes family are obviously on drugs like their son was. I hope they all rot in hell.
Byte Stryke
02-15-2011, 23:13
I say file a counter-suit for law enforcement costs, damages to the officers, stress, rehabilitation, therapy etc etc.
Tally up a million dollar bill and send that to their sorry ass. Demand they move out of the state and then kill themselves or else they will proceed with the lawsuit.
Fixed it for you
[ROFL1]
clublights
02-15-2011, 23:24
They can't be freaking serious.
this is some sort of twisted screwed up joke right?...........RIGHT?
if not I think my head is gunna explode.
damned shame.
Its sad our system can be abused by dirt bags like this. I wish decent people up north didn't even have to waste the moment to think about the scum bags. Not about the money!? please, I'm so sure your perfect morals are guiding you!
I'll gladly have my tax dollars pay for the defense of this case. It probably won't go any where, but GO GET 'EM anyway.
BPTactical
02-15-2011, 23:36
Charge the family with Felony Stupid and extra counts to the parents for raising a piece of Sh**!
How could somebody actually have the audacity to do such?
Sickening
Fixed it for you
[ROFL1]
yep, that'll work!
Charge the family with Felony Stupid and extra counts to the parents for raising a piece of Sh**!
How could somebody actually have the audacity to do such?
Sickening
better yet, what kind of lawyer would even consider taking up such a frivolous lawsuit.
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better yet, what kind of lawyer would even consider taking up such a frivolous lawsuit.
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One that had a payment on his Porsche due and doesn't mind that his father is ashamed of him?
OneGuy67
02-15-2011, 23:54
I say file a counter-suit for law enforcement costs, damages to the officers, stress, rehabilitation, therapy etc etc.
Tally up a million dollar bill and send that to their sorry ass. demand they kill themselves or move out of the state or else they will proceed with the lawsuit.
All seriousness, government entitites can't countersue on cases like this; however, individuals can. Have the widow sue the crap out of the family for their POS of a son causing the death of her husband, the Deputy. Violated his civil rights by killing him. That's what they are alleging in their suit. Sue them back! Take every damn penny that family has, to include their damn double-wide they live in. Of course, in reality, what will she get? Not much, because the POS wasn't worth anything, didn't have anything and didn't have insurance on anything.
OneGuy67
02-15-2011, 23:55
One that had a payment on his Porsche due and doesn't mind that his father is ashamed of him?
Ding! Ding! You sir, are correct!!
Troublco
02-16-2011, 00:15
Let's see here...you have a scumball that kills a deputy while trying to escape, gets killed himself afterward, and his family wants their pound of flesh? After this little episode, they should be forced to publicly apologize for the conduct of the misbegotten slimeball AND THEIR OWN. They should also beg forgiveness from the family of the deputy for their callous and idiotic behavior. Anyone want to bet half (or more) of this slimy brood are on some sort of welfare?
And this ambulance chaser they have ought to do the same thing. This is the sort that all the really bad jokes are about. He makes Frank Azar look GOOD.
I'd have been more than happy to give the sh**ball CPR...jumping up and down on his chest while wearing combat boots.
You know, I wouldn't be turned off at a public demonstration to protest this and bring it to light. As long as it was held on one of my days off.
Tweety Bird
02-16-2011, 01:12
Seems to me that any time someone says, "It's not about the money". . .
IT'S ABOUT THE MONEY!
ldmaster
02-16-2011, 01:14
This is just the tip of the iceberg.
Just read a story about a law firm that was formed to pursue copyright infringement for photos published on line by a few newspapers.
The firm OWNS the copyrighted images produced by these paper, including the Denver Post.
When they find them, they immediately sue whoever posted it - blogger, whoever... No demand to remove it, just an immediate lawsuit.
Reports are they average 5,000 per settlement.
So 'scumbag lawyer' is redundant. You ever hear a lawyer badmouth any member of his profession for this kind of thing? It doesn't happen, they're sorta like muslims not badmouthing muslims - although the bar association happily disbars members who badmouth other members. So even if they want to say something, their own professional organization keeps them from doing so.
This story is fucked up and I can't believe an attorney would have such a disregard for morals and ethical fundamentals to take this case. But..
A trial is going to cost the government a couple hundred thousand dollars. If the family loses they are on the hook for the government's attorneys fee's. The family most likely doesn't have anything to lose and will claim BK if they lose the case, if not just change their names and relocate and use a dead persons social security number to reestablish themselves.
So... you're the government and you know what this attorney is trying to do. Cost Vs. Risk tells you that you should pay the family enough money to go away quietly. If you don't do it that way the tax payers will be on the hook for more than hush money they will be on the hook for an entire trial.
It's wrong and it pisses me off but this is the way our system works.
This is a good example where loser pays would be good. It would discourage law suites like this if the loser had to pay the legal expenses of both sides. They would have to set it up that the lawyer would have to pay if the loser didn't have the money.
This is a good example where loser pays would be good. It would discourage law suites like this if the loser had to pay the legal expenses of both sides. They would have to set it up that the lawyer would have to pay if the loser didn't have the money.
That's already the case. The government has governmental immunity. If you sue the government and lose you have to pay the governments attorney's fees. If you win the government has to pay yours.
If you have nothing to lose governmental immunity doesn't mean shit. If you have anything to lose you're probably not going to sue the government. Needless to say the current system is being abused by lawyers due to the fact that there are many people who have nothing to lose. Particularly illegal immigrants who can change their identity overnight.
better yet, what kind of lawyer would even consider taking up such a frivolous lawsuit.
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I wouldn't be suprised at all if the dirtbag didn't approach them with the idea.
flan7211
02-16-2011, 01:48
I was a couple of blocks away from that shooting at the time. Too bad they didn't put more rounds into that son of a bitch gang banger.
KevDen2005
02-16-2011, 02:54
I love how lawyers like that are so dirty. I know a ton of lawyers that are good people, many have been defense council (and usually cops don't like them). I have seen a lot of professionalism. It's stuff like that letter that we find disgusting but the BAR association has to be thinking, "What an idiot."
These types of stupid frivolous lawsuit MUST STOP.
It makes me sick.
Byte Stryke
02-16-2011, 07:17
My Biggest complaint about it is thus:
Even if this never goes to court. Even as of right now, This bullshit publicity stunt is costing taxpayers at state and county level.
we the people should counter sue
My Biggest complaint about it is thus:
Even if this never goes to court. Even as of right now, This bullshit publicity stunt is costing taxpayers at state and county level.
we the people should counter sue
Personally I am tired of the lawsuits and the games. We need to counter shoot.
SA Friday
02-16-2011, 08:15
Be careful what you ask for. The right to file civil suits is a constitutional right. We already have enough encroachment in that department. Picking and choosing what to encroach and what to not encroach in that document is Russian roullette. Let the system work in this case.
mikedubs
02-16-2011, 08:20
Two words: Summary Judgment
If the judge decides that one party doesn't have enough evidence, he can throw everything away.
Edit: I highly doubt that they are going to find an impartial jury pool anywhere in the metro area. I think a change of venue is likely to find people less...emotionally charged. Thankfully, the facts speak for themselves: the guy could have just stopped, didn't have to lead chase @ 100mph, didn't have to fight, damn sure didn't have to shoot. If someone takes all of those actions and the end result is death, they should expect nothing from anyone...THEY are (were) the problem.
Batteriesnare
02-16-2011, 08:38
Hey Reyes family and attorney:
GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU WORTHLESS PIECES OF IGNORANT, VILE, SPINELESS SCUM!
KevDen2005
02-16-2011, 09:49
Hey Reyes family and attorney:
GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU WORTHLESS PIECES OF IGNORANT, VILE, SPINELESS SCUM!
+ 1,000,000
Keep in mind he took a deputy's gun...it wasn't like he was forced to use his own
KevDen2005
02-16-2011, 09:51
Be careful what you ask for. The right to file civil suits is a constitutional right. We already have enough encroachment in that department. Picking and choosing what to encroach and what to not encroach in that document is Russian roullette. Let the system work in this case.
+1
I, too, am willing to put up with some bs that will get thrown out to make sure our constitutional rights are in place
Its always about the money
My dad was a cop/SWAT, after an 18 hour stand-off with a psychotic they managed to get the guy out of the basement alive and relatively unharmed but not before he managed to stab my dad.
We got notification of the law suit from the guy's parents before he was even out of the hospital. Luckily it was thrown out before having to go to trial. Can't sue the parents for not ensuring their adult son who was living with them was taking his meds, though.
Laws are skewed towards the criminals
TriggerHappy
02-16-2011, 10:41
Growing up both my parents were patrol with Anchorage Police. My dad ended up a LT. when he retired. He shot a guy at one point in his career. It was a Domestic disturbance, guy came at 3 of his officers with a knife, he shot twice center mass. He was put on leave with pay, psych eval, court case, justification, etc.. He said that was the low of his career, never drank so much scotch. For all good cops out there, its not a position anyone wants to be in. You are there to protect not kill. Guy ended up living, all court cases were thrown out.
I feel for both departments, both officers; loss of life and use of deadly force. Its a bad place to be and the family that was left behind, my prayers go out to you.
Having to deal with that aftermath is complete BS.
This is a good quote, one of my favorites. It was on my fathers retirement plaque:
"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
-Theodore Roosevelt, Chief of Police 1910
theGinsue
02-16-2011, 13:44
I say file a counter-suit for law enforcement costs, damages to the officers, stress, rehabilitation, therapy etc etc.
Tally up a million dollar bill and send that to their sorry ass. demand they kill themselves or move out of the state or else they will proceed with the lawsuit.
I've just read the first of three pages of this thread but I agree with sniper on this -PLUS...
I say the family of the slain officer files a lawsuit against the murderers "estate" as well as the parents - for personal liability for the loss of income the officer would have probably provided for the next 20 years, emotional distress and hardship, etc.
The only ones held accountable for their actions these days are those who actually try to do the right thing.
Sickening.
rockhound
02-16-2011, 13:49
" MY PIECE OF SHIT SON WOULD NOT HAVE DONE ANYTHING LIKE THIS. THE POLICE ARE LYING ABOUT WHAT HE DID. THEY KILLED HIM JUST BECAUSE OF HIS SKIN COLOR"
what a crock, too bad we can't dig him up and shoot him again.
Byte Stryke
02-16-2011, 13:55
This is a good quote, one of my favorites. It was on my fathers retirement plaque:
"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
-Theodore Roosevelt, Chief of Police 1910
Great words from a great man
Swiped for Sig :D
EDIT: !@*()(*^)*^$%!!! Maximum Signature length
it's funny....
I can be pretty critical of police when they do things they should not be doing.
But when I see a vid of the police beating up a guy that just led them on a long and dangerous high speed chase, I don't mind so much.
like that vid of the guy that killed a cop in an escape attempt, who's family goes apeshit when he shows back up in court all beat to hell after getting caught.
To that family, and the family of this threads aforementioned scumbag I say: "Fuck off and die."
I hope the sheriff tells them the same thing.
To the lawyer, well... I'll plead the fifth on what should happen to him.
To the lawyer, well... I'll plead the fifth on what should happen to him.
Paid leave while they do an investigation?
If the cop wasn't carrying he'd still be alive. This case could be a Gun Hater's wet dream.
Gcompact30
02-16-2011, 19:49
I almost used profanity....[Rant1][Rant1][Rant1][Rant1][Rant1] you get the point.... hope the bad guy in hell with a hot poker some where.......
Family of Deputy Brownlee's killer demanding an apology...RIDICULOUS..
The attorney for the family of a man who shot and killed a Weld County Sheriff's deputy demanded an apology from Sheriff John Cooke for the killing of the gunman and said the family's threat of a lawsuit is "not about the money."
Asked Thursday if he would write a letter of apology, Cooke simply stated: "No."
Denver attorney Michael Evans sent a notice early this week to Cooke and to the Greeley and Evans police departments warning that Rueben Reyes' family could file a civil lawsuit for $250,000 plus punitive damages unless they could reach a settlement.
Cooke responded that the case was a ploy for the attorney and the Reyes family to make some money.
On Nov. 23, at the end of a long police chase, police and Reyes scuffled where the cars had stopped in Evans. Reyes was able to get Deputy Sam Brownlee's service weapon and shot him three times, killing the sheriff's deputy. An Evans police officer immediately shot Reyes in the back three times, and he died later at North Colorado Medical Center.
In the notice this week, attorney Evans said the nature of the chase and the way it was handled, "aggravated the circumstances" leading to the death of Reyes. He also accused the officers at the scene of not offering help to Reyes in the form of CPR or first aid.
After Cooke said the notice was an attempt to make money, attorney Evans sent the e-mail letter to the sheriff, stating: "This case is not about the money. Its (sic) about the value of human life, or the complete disregard for it."
The attorney then told Cooke the Reyes family has agreed to release the sheriff's office from any civil lawsuit if the sheriff takes the following actions:
1. You will write a personal letter to the family apologizing for the loss of Mr. Reyes;
2. Promise to correct your agencies (sic) policies and procedures (which even your own investigative review panel agrees are faulty);
3. Discipline or terminate those individuals who are responsible choosing not to act to save Mr. Reyes' life at the scene.
Cooke said of the letter written to him: "It's very unethical to send me an e-mail like that. He knows I have an attorney, and they know they should deal with my attorney and not directly with me."
That first letter, the notice of claims, was originally sent to the Greeley City Attorney, Evans City Attorney and the Weld County Attorney.
Attorney Evans set a deadline of 5 p.m. Friday for Cooke to take action on the demands, and "If you don't accept, then I guess you would have to agree that its (sic) really not about the money after all."
yeah go pound some sand
joe
Hey Reyes family and attorney:
GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU WORTHLESS PIECES OF IGNORANT, VILE, SPINELESS SCUM!
This bears repeating.
I Concur.
The family needs to piss up a rope.
if it were me I would be holding the parents financially liable.
but that sort of logic doesn't exist in the real world.
I agree. Counter sue his estate for all costs related to the chase, and punitive damages for wrongful death.
Hmmm... oughtn't this be covered by the law preventing financial benefit from a criminal act? Or is that just so felons don't sign book deals?
If it wasn't about money the lawsuit would be filed for $1. That's not the case though. All people who wrestle a cops gun away from him then proceed to shoot him deserve to be alive right? And if not the family at least deserves a paycheck for not having that wonderful individual present in their lives correct? I have faith a semi-sane judge will laugh this one out of court, unfortunately the policeman's family and the jurisdiction as a whole will have to put up with these people's bullshit a little longer.
clublights
02-19-2011, 00:30
http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=8535
Even the media thinks they are scum
" MY PIECE OF SHIT SON WOULD NOT HAVE DONE ANYTHING LIKE THIS. THE POLICE ARE LYING ABOUT WHAT HE DID. THEY KILLED HIM JUST BECAUSE OF HIS SKIN COLOR"
what a crock, too bad we can't dig him up and shoot him again.
what exactly would the penalties be for doing that?
Is it possible the killers family and their attorney are consulting with the Baghdad city council on how to extort money from people who are trying to provide security for their ignorant souls?
Just seems like the same story on a different scale.
what exactly would the penalties be for doing that?
Hehe its only an M2..
18-13-101. Abuse of a corpse.
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