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XHairs
04-01-2006, 07:05
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/8385889/detail.html?rss=den&psp=news

"Students Who Want To Fly American Flags Walk Out
Skyline Students Say Their Flags Were Confiscated


LONGMONT, Colo. -- More than two dozen students walked out of Skyline High School Friday morning to protest what they say is a ban that doesn't allow the American flag to be flown on school grounds.

The principal said that the ban isn't just on American flags -- it's on all flags.

Several students who walked out of class Friday said that they were upset that Mexican flags can be waved around but that American flags couldn't. They said that school officials confiscated their American flags because they have become inflammatory because of recent immigration issues.

"When the immigration laws came out we noticed that a lot of Hispanics were waving Mexican flags and what we were thinking to ourselves is like, isn't the immigration law to stay in the country? You want to stay in America, correct? So I said, for every Mexican flag, you should have an American flag right next to it. So a few people went out and started waving American flags, and that's where everything bridged out," said Skyline student R.J. Fogal. "That's when they started telling us that we can't wave American flags, there's going to be no flags today, or everyone is going to be suspended -- whoever carries a flag."


"What we want to know is since when was it against the rules to have an American flag on a car, in a car, in your hands in a school?" said student William Cassity.

Skyline Principal Tom Stumpf said that the school enacted a ban this week that prohibits students to display, wear or fly any flag -- American or Mexican.

"The (policy) evolved because the flags were being used, not as a symbol of cultural heritage, but the flags were being used as symbols of bigotry, a symbol of hostility. They were being used to inflame different groups and we're simply not going to tolerate that at Skyline High School," Stumpf said.

"My paramount obligation, my solemn obligation at Skyline High School, is to provide a safe and secure environment and with the flags being used as a catalyst to stir up the students, to stir up the environment, I cannot condone that ... One flag was thrown into the face of another group and another flag was being brandished in front of another group and it was done to raise emotions, and we don't want that. We want respect -- that's our main goal at Skyline High School," he said.

The school has a diverse population and some students say there have been tensions between different ethnic groups because of the national immigration debate.

"I think our whole society is on different sides of the immigration issue and I can't control that. All I'm asking from our students is respect -- respect for one another, treating each other as they themselves want to be treated, treating each other decently, civilly," Stumpf said.

He said the students have a right to rally and those who walked out of class on Friday would not be punished. "

7idl
04-01-2006, 07:39
It's a sorry fucking day when the US flag can't be flown IN the US!

W T F ?

Bumblebee Bob
04-01-2006, 08:49
Okay now. I thought it was a State law that every class room had to display an American Flag in it? And I also thought it was required to fly the flag out front from a flag pole.



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04-01-2006, 10:17
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Chaffee2
04-01-2006, 16:51
It's great to be proud of your heritage but this has got to stop or there is going to be bad things happen in this great country. These people who want to be Mexicans or whatever need to assimilate into our country or get OUT.

There can not be a whole lot of logical thought behind these protests. They want to be here but they want to be Mexicans. They fly Mexican flags and protest and then wonder why they are getting discriminated against.

All I can say is ASSIMILATE or get the HELL OUT. Is that clear?

Wulf202
04-01-2006, 23:17
Here is the contact info for the school If you feel like letting them know how you feel.

Skyline High School
600 East Mountain View
Longmont, CO 80501
Boulder County
Phone: (720) 494-3741

Principal’s email: stumpf_thomas@stvrain.k12.co.us

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04-02-2006, 08:36
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2ndChildhood
04-02-2006, 19:01
C'mon people, chill out. This isn't about PC crap, it's not about outlawing any particular flag. The principal is trying to keep order in his school. If students at my kid's school were angrily waving flags in each others faces, or signs or any other symbol, I'd want to see the principal do whatever it took to get them to cool down.

7idl
04-02-2006, 19:32
But the flag of the United States of America, In AMERICA ?

If anyone can't handle the showing of the United States of America Flag, please leave the county now!

XHairs
04-03-2006, 16:12
C'mon people, chill out. This isn't about PC crap, it's not about outlawing any particular flag. The principal is trying to keep order in his school. If students at my kid's school were angrily waving flags in each others faces, or signs or any other symbol, I'd want to see the principal do whatever it took to get them to cool down.

The flags were involved but were not the cause of the problem. Attitudes of the students caused the problem and they should educate the kids about that.
And what 7idl said.

Delphi
04-03-2006, 16:41
The whole leave the country thing is a bit harsh guys, now i completly agree this is america and the flag should be allowed anywhere. Putting a ban on foreign flags would be more appropriate, and suspending the trouble makers. Its kinda like saying since cars kill people lets bann em all! Just doesnt work that way.

But if somone has a different opinion they have the right to it. They are in america and people died to defend the fact that we can have diverse opinions. What if somone starts using that against us so called "gun nuts". When they enact harsh gun laws? Is all that they will have to say "If you dont like it than leave the country!" ?

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2ndChildhood
04-03-2006, 18:39
The flags were involved but were not the cause of the problem. Attitudes of the students caused the problem and they should educate the kids about that.


I totally agree with that X. My hope would be that the ban turns out to be temporary once this blows over.
Lets not forget that bad things have been done before by people who were (figuratively or physically) carrying a flag: McCarthyism, Fascism...
Even though I am proud of my country and happy to show the flag (especially on Veterans day), when people are being jerks carrying the flag, I don't like it and don't want anyone to think the jerks represent me.