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cjmore
02-28-2011, 13:31
I pulled a search and got back The search term you specified (oak) is under the minimum word length (4) and therefore will not be found. Please make this term longer.

That said - I'm looking to build an AR for target, P dog and defense shooting. I'm considering all my options as I have a RRA lower and would like to build it.

My thoughts are Chromed Lined 4150, CHF in 20" free floating.

I was looking to White Oaks as a possible upper or barrel choice. Does anyone have any experience with their organization?

mc223
02-28-2011, 13:45
White Oak is top shelf all the way. I have 2 of their uppers. Both are shooters.

They are a busy shop so give them a call for your specifics.

Hoser
02-28-2011, 14:02
WOA makes excellent quality stuff.

Highly recommended.

SA Friday
02-28-2011, 14:21
Yep, good stuff. My next build will Have either a WOA or JP barrel. I'm currently leaning towards the WOA.

Hannu
02-28-2011, 18:20
Yep, ordered new barrel from WOA.
Sean, you probably know where to get JP barrels cheaper... ?

SA Friday
02-28-2011, 18:23
Yep, ordered new barrel from WOA.
Sean, you probably know where to get JP barrels cheaper... ?

I wish. I've only heard of them being distributed directly from JP.

cjmore
02-28-2011, 20:18
With this being my first AR anything I should know, IE gotchas when ordering or am I in good hands with WOA?

mc223
02-28-2011, 21:09
Just make sure you tell them exactly what you want. Use their order form from the website and put in writing what you want. Not that they would mess up, they won't, but you may ask for something out of their scope. Call them and make sure you are clear on lead time.
They are great to work with.
Enjoy

Hannu
03-04-2011, 14:48
After placing an order couple days ago, I got so unfriendly service from WOA, cancelled my order and not gonna buy anything from them anymore. No matter what.

Lying and saying "I do not believe you" from owner of the company does not sound like a gunsmith I would trust, but that is just me.

mc223
03-04-2011, 14:51
After placing an order couple days ago, I got so unfriendly service from WOA, cancelled my order and not gonna buy anything from them anymore. No matter what.

Lying and saying "I do not believe you" from owner of the company does not sound like a gunsmith I would trust, but that is just me.



Gotta be more to this story. Please indulge us.

Hannu
03-04-2011, 17:07
Ok, cause you asked... :)

First everything seemed to go very nicely - all little things like muzzle threading special length, little thicker profile front of gas block etc. the answer was always "no problem, sir". Replying to my emails was also fast.
Then I was told in email, he can not process my order before he will get my CC details. My card would only be charged when my barrel would be shipped, delivery time was said to be 8 weeks.

I thought allright, sounds fair. I will call them because I do not want to give my CC data over the internet.

When I called and got the guy (I was emailing with) on the phone, he asked how can I help you ? I told I ordered a barrel via email and wanted to confirm my order over the phone because I did not want to send my CC data over the internet. Then I told him what we had agreed earlier and he started laughing loud. We then discussed about what I am gonna do with the barrel etc. He had no idea about 3-gun and was just underestimating one National Champ like "yeah, those are the _real_ accurate shooters" etc. Instead, he wanted me to know how great shooter he is in High Power and how great all the stuff is he uses.

Then he told me, he does not believe what I say and he does not trust me. I then said "allright sir, I called ´cause I need a barrel and I called to order one, you wanna have my CC details or not?"
Little more bullshitting and I was giving my CC details, when he said something like: "well we need to get some money now, oh and you wanted to have 12" twist... it may take a while." Then I asked: "well, how long it will take?"
"I do not know, when we get the blank from supplier... Can be 14-16 weeks".
Etc. etc.

I felt like I almost got cheated. The guy tells everything is ok, pay when we ship etc - then you call and all changes, they just want your money right now and have not intent to ship even nearby something we agreed.

I do not mind if someone behaves like an a**hole, I do not think I am very sensitive person etc. and if he will make the barrel $100 cheaper I can take some bullshit and eat it.

Worst customer service I have experienced, ever. The best thing for both of us was, it happened over the phone and not face-to-face.

I just have one problem now. Where to get decent quality AR-15 .204 Ruger barrel...

mc223
03-04-2011, 21:09
I am surprised to hear that about White Oak.

You type english very well.
Could I ask if you have a heavy Finnish accent that could have been a barrier and may be a misunderstanding.

Hannu
03-04-2011, 22:39
Thank you ! I definitely have an accent, how bad, maybe someone who knows me personally could tell it better...

Anyway, I think we understood each other perfectly. If my accent did affect his actions or not, I can not know. If it did, he is not very professional businessman :(

cjmore
03-05-2011, 11:06
Thank you ! I definitely have an accent, how bad, maybe someone who knows me personally could tell it better...

Anyway, I think we understood each other perfectly. If my accent did affect his actions or not, I can not know. If it did, he is not very professional businessman :(

This is awesome information and the reason I post on a board like this. I want to hear from folks who have personally experienced a transaction with WOA....

That's said PM sent with another option

SA Friday
03-05-2011, 13:48
Thank you ! I definitely have an accent, how bad, maybe someone who knows me personally could tell it better...

Anyway, I think we understood each other perfectly. If my accent did affect his actions or not, I can not know. If it did, he is not very professional businessman :(

No way your accent is strong enough to have caused a misunderstanding on this.