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Byte Stryke
03-01-2011, 17:27
http://palmettostatearmory.com/1896.php
Gun Vault AR Mag Vault
GunVault unveils the AR MagVault, a revolutionary new way to keep an AR rifle secure. Inspired by extensive customer demand, the AR MagVault is versatile, easy to use and priced to fit any budget. A must have for AR owners.
This unique design fits in the magazine well and locks into place to keep the AR safe and secure at home, during travel or on the range. Once the AR MagVault is locked into place a round cannot be inserted or chambered.
The AR MagVault features an easy-to-operate key lock system and fits virtually all .223/5.56 AR carbine rifles. It is constructed from extremely durable glass-reinforced nylon for maximum durability
http://www.gunvault.com/skin/frontend/default/gunvault/images/cms_block_images/products_images/ar-vault.jpg
http://palmettostatearmory.com/images/1896.jpg
what do you guys think?
For the price of a pmag guess you cant go wrong. I wonder how it locks into the Magwell.
newracer
03-01-2011, 17:36
On the lower part of the first pict you can see a lever that engages something to hold it in place.
Neat idea.
bobbyfairbanks
03-01-2011, 17:48
Not sure what the point of this is. People need to just learn(really learn) and practice safe firearm handling. This includes kids. Never to young to start learning.
Bushmaster had something similar years ago..
Great-Kazoo
03-01-2011, 19:24
for some folks a secure firearm works. i would suggest you place said gun where you would keep it in whatever room you choose. Scream loud enough in the middle of the night to wake your spouse, then start counting until you have unlocked the gun, loaded mag, chambered a round and placed the muzzle on alleged target who by now has already slit your throat. YMMV
ChunkyMonkey
03-01-2011, 21:26
meow
Palmetto sells them for $10 less than Gun Vault.
http://www.gunvault.com/gun-locks/ar-magvault.html
Wow, awesome solution to a non-existant problem.
Byte Stryke
03-02-2011, 17:37
I am truly sorry I fucking asked
I am truly sorry I fucking asked
That's how I feel sometimes... notice my post count going way down.... lol....
ghettodub
03-03-2011, 10:47
Originally Posted by Byte Stryke
I am truly sorry I fucking asked
People have been SUPER helpful on here lately, huh...
I think that thing looks pretty cool, and when you have kids or other people in the house you 100% don't want to get access to your guns, not a bad solution. I wouldn't mind picking one of those up.
Byte Stryke
03-03-2011, 12:50
People have been SUPER helpful on here lately, huh...
I think that thing looks pretty cool, and when you have kids or other people in the house you 100% don't want to get access to your guns, not a bad solution. I wouldn't mind picking one of those up.
This is what I was thinking.
I have 1 AR in the house, I am not stupid enough to rely on it as my primary home/self defense weapon. I have a Ruger and an SA-XD for that.
I also have a 2 year old that is fascinated with my AR. I have a cable lock in it, but I am always looking to increase security until I can justify an entire gun safe for 1 Gun.
I will teach him how to safely handle a firearm someday, but I figure Potty training and riding a tricycle should probably come first.
BigBear, yeah, there's allot of people I thought were good people suddenly popping up as Trolls.
It's "a lot". Just sayin...
Don't let them get you down Byte..
In Your situation, I'd say a locking gun case on a high shelf (for the time being.) would work. Or even the little the cheap stack-on "gun safe".
newracer
03-03-2011, 13:18
I would prefer this device over the cable lock you are using now.
...I also have a 2 year old that is fascinated with my AR...I will teach him how to safely handle a firearm someday, but I figure Potty training and riding a tricycle should probably come first.
BigBear, yeah, there's allot of people I thought were good people suddenly popping up as Trolls.
I do have a youth stock .22lr carbine if you ever want to use it. I'm waiting for teh day I can take my neice and nephew out as well.. Couple more years for that though.
[Beer]
Byte Stryke
03-03-2011, 15:44
It's "a lot". Just sayin...
It's "Saying" or "Sayin'"
But thank you for your generous and well thought out contribution to the topic of this thread.
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Jog on
Sorry if I offended, but I just don't see the point. There's NFW my AR, or any of my guns, would ever be accessible to anybody else, so that I'd need to lock the magwell. Anybody handling my AR will have me standing in front of them.
If the rifle can't be locked up, at least lock up the ammo and magazines? I understand about your son, but I'd think the cable lock through the magwell and out the receiver opening would suffice to secure it from him. He's more likely to get hurt dropping it on himself. Big, heavy rifle for a little boy. I'm sure you do all you can to keep it out of his reach anyway.
For under $20.00, who gives a crap either way?
Scanker19
03-03-2011, 20:37
Innovative, but i wonder if one could separate the upper and "disarm" it.
I would just hold a lighter under it and melt it.
It's "Saying" or "Sayin'"
Is that so? [Poke]
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showpost.php?p=313561&postcount=15
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showpost.php?p=310520&postcount=54
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showpost.php?p=303374&postcount=8
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showpost.php?p=295223&postcount=3
Still..."jus-sayin"
When I first saw it, I thought it might be good for secondary security in a gun cabinet. That begs the question as to where to put the key.
If I'm worried about my primary/HD weapon, I'd put it in a small gun cabinet or case.
Any chance of popping the upper and pushing the lock through? No, I don't surf CO-AR15 with a rifle across my lap. So I don't have one to look at. [Viking]
Byte Stryke
03-04-2011, 15:08
Is that so? [Poke]
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showpost.php?p=313561&postcount=15
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showpost.php?p=310520&postcount=54
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showpost.php?p=303374&postcount=8
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showpost.php?p=295223&postcount=3
Still..."jus-sayin"
Just how sad is your life that you went and looked all of that up all because I pulled your chain a bit?
[ROFL1]
Just how sad is your life that you went and looked all of that up all because I pulled your chain a bit?
[ROFL1]
Funny thing,
search -> advanced search -> search by keyword: "sayin" + search by username: "byte stryke" -> Search Now. Since those were only the first four of about two pages worth it took me all of 2 minutes. When a guy posts almost 10 times per day, it's easy to notice some of his little trends...Jus Sayin. [Tooth]
Funny thing,
search -> advanced search -> search by keyword: "sayin" + search by username: "byte stryke" -> Search Now. Since those were only the first four of about two pages worth it took me all of 2 minutes. When a guy posts almost 10 times per day, it's easy to notice some of his little trends...Jus Sayin. [Tooth]
[Eek3]
theGinsue
03-04-2011, 23:52
Soooooo.....
Back to the OP at hand.
Tremendous item while transporting an AR interstate. In IL, for instance, the gun has to be "locked" as well as out of reach of the passengers. Drop one of these into the AR and I imagine there is less potential for damage than a cable lock and potential more secure than a trigget lock.
While transporting an AR via the airlines, you and I both know how locking luggage, including gun cases, can "accidentally" lose their locks and such during transport. I've heard of firearms going missing (permanently) after getting checked in. THis handy little device could be the diffenence between filing a claim with the airlines over a broken case or a missing case and firearm.
ChunkyMonkey
03-05-2011, 00:56
Is that so? [Poke]
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showpost.php?p=313561&postcount=15
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showpost.php?p=310520&postcount=54
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showpost.php?p=303374&postcount=8
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showpost.php?p=295223&postcount=3
Still..."jus-sayin"
Bwahahahah... [ROFL1]
ldmaster
03-05-2011, 00:58
I am truly sorry you fucking asked too!
I'm just so fucking sick of it all...
That being said, either your rifle is a go to item, or it's not - the key thing negates the value of having a ready rifle anyway, so you might as well lock it up.
The item locks into place with a small brass detent ball... Secure enough when i looked at one, but again, since you dont think a carbine is a home defense gun anyway, best to lock it up.
I sometimes lose sight that all children are different, my kids grew up around my guns, I mean the newsies would get a kick about how much access they have to them. Even at a young age I encouraged their handling of guns. i also forbid the existence of ANY toy gun in the home, all guns are real - therefore, all guns are real.
Even in the dead of night, I prefer my rifle or shotgun, but that's a training and confidence thing.
But little kids are like hackers, if for some reason your kid had the time on his hands to play with your "secured" AR I'm almost positive the kid will know where you keep the key and/or find a way to get the lock to open, and aside from that, kids like tools too - he might mars the heck out of your rifle trying to get the orange thingy out!
Those things are made, or the one I saw was, in china and the lock was ridiculously easy to get to rotate with a little bit of picking skill.
HBARleatherneck
03-05-2011, 08:42
delete
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Byte Stryke
03-05-2011, 12:07
Those things are made, or the one I saw was, in china and the lock was ridiculously easy to get to rotate with a little bit of picking skill.
This is what I was looking for.
Thank you
Funny thing,
search -> advanced search -> search by keyword: "sayin" + search by username: "byte stryke" -> Search Now. Since those were only the first four of about two pages worth it took me all of 2 minutes. When a guy posts almost 10 times per day, it's easy to notice some of his little trends...Jus Sayin. [Tooth]
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DeusExMachina
03-06-2011, 15:17
Finally, something to keep my AR safe in my trunk! I hate when magazines accidentally fall into it, the bolt magically chambers a round, and a ghost pulls the trigger. I think I have finally had my last bullet hole to patch!
jreifsch80
03-08-2011, 03:38
interesting thread, seems like a good idea if it wasn't a piece of junk made in China. Is this product a good idea for all situations? not in my opinion. for someone who wants added security for their one or two guns that they own this is an economical alternative to a gun safe (not better though in my opinion) my 3 year old daughter loves helping me build my ak's in fact she usually has some random ak part in her purse but she also knows for a fact to never touch any of my guns unless she has permission (I keep them safe when they aren't out) i'm not super worried about an accident in the home (though they can happen) the main reason i want to get a safe or even a product like this is in case someone were to ever break in and steal any of my guns.
just because you don't see a personal need for something doesn't mean that it's a crappy idea and has no purpose for anyone else.
just sayin.....[Muaha]
edit: my go to gun would never have anything like this on it, mine is kept loaded as well lol
ShooterJM
03-15-2011, 12:27
Interesting idea, I'm personally waiting for shotlock's AR15 model to come out though.
Byte, that does look like a good idea. I myself go with the what could go wrong philosophy, never want to be the one saying "well I never thought it could happen". If it is a sturdy product not made in china, I think it is a good buy, especially for the price. I have too many kids runnin around my place to not be to careful and the guns that I do have here all have the bolt and or firing pins taken out except our home defense weapons. People can say that is a little over the top, but, you can never be too careful.
For those that worry about kids finding the keys and unlocking everything, my brother (who also breeds like a rabbit) put paint on his keys to match up the locks they go to. However, he did them in complete opposites, red key goes to the green lock, yellow key to the purple lock and so on.
How did he decide which colors are opposites?
How did he decide which colors are opposites?
Those are opposites on color charts. Now, I don't know how that was decided and by who, but I remember it from art classes also.
I was going to ask if he just did it the easy way and consulted a color wheel.
I was going to ask if he just did it the easy way and consulted a color wheel.
I think so, but, knowing my brother who is also a little OCD about things, hi might have taken out some watercolors... [ROFL1]
Beprepared
03-31-2011, 07:56
Most valid points have already been stated, on both sides. What first came to mind when I saw the product was for secondary security of NFA items. I don't know first hand, but I believe if the NFA item is in your name, your wife/adult children who have the safe combination, can't have access to it (Gramar Nazi's, was that a run-on sentence? Please advise.). Creating the need for secondary security.
denvernative321
07-07-2011, 10:10
I think this is a great idea. I would chose this over the cable lock any day. I dont have a need to lock up my rifle but if i did this is what i would choose.
I like that it does not make the rifle look ugly like with a cable lock.
jrdale84
09-05-2011, 17:38
for some folks a secure firearm works. i would suggest you place said gun where you would keep it in whatever room you choose. Scream loud enough in the middle of the night to wake your spouse, then start counting until you have unlocked the gun, loaded mag, chambered a round and placed the muzzle on alleged target who by now has already slit your throat. YMMV
When seconds count and the Police are only minutes away ... wait where did I put that damn key ...
soldier-of-the-apocalypse
09-06-2011, 15:50
ill just keep mine loaded in my locked safe behind a locked door a unloaded gun is the same as a empty fire extinguisher it will get you killed when you need it most
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