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hollohas
03-01-2011, 23:46
So I am in CA in a hotel and IE keeps freezing even after a computer restart. My IE was working fine for the last couple hours and bam...freezing...so I fired up Google Chrome to get some work done and it seems to work fine. Didn't think much of it until...
...I just got off the phone with my wife and her IE keeps shutting down 1 second after it opens on her laptop in Denver. She said IE does the same on my PC at home in Denver but Google Chrome works fine so not a connection problem...hum.
Anyone else having problems with IE??? Seems super weird that IE all of the sudden doesn't work on 3 computers using different internet connections in different states. [Eek3]
So I am in CA in a hotel and IE keeps freezing even after a computer restart. My IE was working fine for the last couple hours and bam...freezing...so I fired up Google Chrome to get some work done and it seems to work fine. Didn't think much of it until...
...I just got off the phone with my wife and her IE keeps shutting down 1 second after it opens on her laptop in Denver. She said IE does the same on my PC at home in Denver but Google Chrome works fine so not a connection problem...hum.
Anyone else having problems with IE??? Seems super weird that IE all of the sudden doesn't work on 3 computers using different internet connections in different states. [Eek3]
I run chrome exclusively and love it for what I do. I have issues going to work where they use IE and try to use it like chrome one letter type and enters trying to get to websites. Ya it does not work.[Rant1]
Part of the reason I started using chrome is the random bugs IE has.
hollohas
03-02-2011, 00:38
I am trying to make a change to my flight tomorrow, on the phone with Frontier and they tell me they too are having "technical problems" with their system, ...computers not working...do I need to break out the tin foil?
I better not get stuck here in CA when SHTF...[Bang]
I am trying to make a change to my flight tomorrow, on the phone with Frontier and they tell me they too are having "technical problems" with their system, ...computers not working...do I need to break out the tin foil?
I better not get stuck here in CA when SHTF...[Bang]
solar flares!!!
hollohas
03-02-2011, 00:44
Guess I'll start walking
My buddy in texas was having issuses with his IE tonight too
i am in NE, and i thought i had a Virus or something and or problem with the college servers the 64bit Internet explorer is working fine! idk was wrong, but im considering moving to a new browser!
Byte Stryke
03-02-2011, 08:07
See the problem exists in the mere fact that you have observed the problem, thus changing the outcome of that problem into a crisis. Continued observation of the crisis will eventually perpetuate a catastrophe.
Just kidding.
get Firefox or chrome. I dont trust explorer for anything more than manually downloading OS Updates.
So I am in CA in a hotel and IE keeps freezing even after a computer restart. My IE was working fine for the last couple hours and bam...freezing...so I fired up Google Chrome to get some work done and it seems to work fine. Didn't think much of it until...
...I just got off the phone with my wife and her IE keeps shutting down 1 second after it opens on her laptop in Denver. She said IE does the same on my PC at home in Denver but Google Chrome works fine so not a connection problem...hum.
Anyone else having problems with IE??? Seems super weird that IE all of the sudden doesn't work on 3 computers using different internet connections in different states. [Eek3]
My family called me in a panic last night because suddenly IE crashes every time it opens. I talked them through starting IE with no addons and it was stable so I used it to download Chrome, which works fine.
Seems odd all around
Firefox and Chrome are good. Anyone use Opera? I've also been using Midori on my netbook running Puppeee. Midori isn't as stable as Opera but it is fast.
What is this Internet Exploder you are speaking of? The only reason I ever use Windows is because that is what work insists we use, and my wife uses Publisher and I haven't found a replacement open source software which is as stable, fast, and easy to use.
Lex_Luthor
03-02-2011, 09:36
I know what the problem is. It's that you're using IE! IE is a horrible browser IMHO. Like said above, get Firefox or Google Chrome. I haven't used Chrome yet, but I've heard good things about it. Anyone know if it's compatible with Linux? I would venture to assume so.
Zundfolge
03-02-2011, 09:52
Using a web browser that is also your operating system's file browser is like using your penis to stir the water in a brothel toilet.
Firefox or Chrome are my recommendations (I'd probably switch to Chrome if it wasn't for several extensions I've come dependent on in Firefox ... that and I suspect Google is evil).
IE Zero day exploit which is supposed to be emergency patched today:
http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/daily_news/article.php/396528/Microsoft-to-Patch-IE-Zero-Day-With-Emergency-Fix-Tuesday.htm
For the love of god, do not run Internet Exploder. Also, make sure you have real antivirus software installed, that it's up to date and operational. Make sure you rotate your passwords and use different passwords for different sites. A frequent method is to come up with a password scheme that involves placing the domain name, or first X characters of the domain name, in as part of the password. Not fool proof, but better than using the same thing everywhere.
Make sure you've set a password on your wireless router, if you have one, and that you've enabled encryption and passwords in order to get on your WiFi network.
Also make sure you have backups of all your important data. http://backblaze.com is $5 a month, also Evernote, Dropbox, SugarSync are other options.
H.
I know what the problem is. It's that you're using IE! IE is a horrible browser IMHO. Like said above, get Firefox or Google Chrome. I haven't used Chrome yet, but I've heard good things about it. Anyone know if it's compatible with Linux? I would venture to assume so.
I've found that the large majority of complaints about OS and apps aren't the OS and apps. I've owned 4 computers in 15 years and I've never had an issue with crashes, lockups, blue screens, viruses, malware, etc...
I build my computer with hardware I know works well with each other and are stable and I stay off of gray sites (porn, warez, etc). I don't even have an antivirus installed, I have a thumb drive with an updated AV that runs a scan every night and I have never gotten a virus on any of my computers. Most of that is just knowing what not to do, open and click on.
The only exception would be - Windows ME and Windows Vista which had issues from day 1. I hate those guys so much.
Lex_Luthor
03-02-2011, 10:40
Using a web browser that is also your operating system's file browser is like using your penis to stir the water in a brothel toilet.
[Coffee][LOL][ROFL2][ROFL3] BWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
It's Microsoft, the world biggest and most contagious virus...and we PAY for it....in more ways than one.
Get Firefox or Chrome, I use both.
It's funny reading all of these, last night IE on my computer that I use started to not work and kicked me off all of a sudden. Then every time I opened it, it would tell me "a program has stopped internet explorer from working". After I ran every virus program and all of the crap I have on this computer, nothing fixed it and I had to do a system restore to get it to work again.
I've found that the large majority of complaints about OS and apps aren't the OS and apps. I've owned 4 computers in 15 years and I've never had an issue with crashes, lockups, blue screens, viruses, malware, etc...
I build my computer with hardware I know works well with each other and are stable and I stay off of gray sites (porn, warez, etc). I don't even have an antivirus installed, I have a thumb drive with an updated AV that runs a scan every night and I have never gotten a virus on any of my computers. Most of that is just knowing what not to do, open and click on.
That's not safe. It's only a matter of time before you pick up a piece of malware. Even "safe" sites run banners that come from advertising networks, and I have personally seen (on a site I managed) advertisers trying to feed malware out through banners. You need something that's monitoring each website as it loads. My two cents, of course, but in the event you get a virus, are you ever going to trust that install again?
I say we blast off and nuke the site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
H.
Zundfolge
03-02-2011, 11:12
Gotta agree with Hoosier here, weirjf you're playing Russian Roulette (unless all you do with your computer is visit this forum and maybe play a little solitaire).
Of course my computers at home run without any anti-virus protection without any problems but then again one of them is running OSX and the other Linux Mint 10 :D
That's not safe. It's only a matter of time before you pick up a piece of malware. Even "safe" sites run banners that come from advertising networks, and I have personally seen (on a site I managed) advertisers trying to feed malware out through banners. You need something that's monitoring each website as it loads. My two cents, of course, but in the event you get a virus, are you ever going to trust that install again?
I say we blast off and nuke the site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
H.
15 years, zero viruses
Of course i've been in IT for most of 17 years so I know how the stuff works.
I never click on ads which is mostly what keeps me safe (and staying away from the gray sites), if I want to check out what they have to offer I search for the site. I don't recomend this for 99.9% of people out there, I've just seen enough people make the mistakes and had to clean up their mess to not make them myself. From my experience, people are their own worst enemies when it comes to getting this stuff, it only has half to do with what they are using. If the virus community wanted to target Linux and Firefox, they could... MS makes money from their product so they are the primary target.
Byte Stryke
03-02-2011, 13:33
One of the problems with becoming Popular
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2029303/virus-mac-invulnerable
Does this mean doom and gloom.
Not at all, it only means that the larger the potential infection market, the larger the risk becomes. OSX has become large enough that the Malware writers are taking interest.
I would still say it is safer and more stable than windows. :)
One of the problems with becoming Popular
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2029303/virus-mac-invulnerable
Does this mean doom and gloom.
Not at all, it only means that the larger the potential infection market, the larger the risk becomes. OSX has become large enough that the Malware writers are taking interest.
I would still say it is safer and more stable than windows. :)
That's exactly it. MS is the easier and bigger target, any OS can be hacked/cracked/infected/exploited if you put enough time and energy into making the tool.
Of course my computers at home run without any anti-virus protection without any problems but then again one of them is running OSX and the other Linux Mint 10 :D
Someone else mentioned virii for OSX, let me add that running Mint reduces your threats of Virus's or Malware, you open new risks similar to those servers face. It's much less likely, since you probably don't have that Linux machine sitting on the internet directly, but if you do (or have DMZ or static routes to it) make sure that it is locked down.
I'd suggest installing fail2ban (apt-get install -y fail2ban or yum install fail2ban) at a minimum.
I <3 UNIX, it's what I do all day long.
H.
Zundfolge
03-02-2011, 15:55
My linux machine is a netbook ... I use it mostly for surfing (which is 90% of what I do on the computer at home) but its only online when its sitting on my lap.
My Mac gets used less and less but again its not left up and running when I'm not in front of it ... but I've been meaning to install fail2ban on the netbook.
clublights
03-02-2011, 16:26
One of the problems with becoming Popular
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2029303/virus-mac-invulnerable
Does this mean doom and gloom.
Not at all, it only means that the larger the potential infection market, the larger the risk becomes. OSX has become large enough that the Malware writers are taking interest.
I would still say it is safer and more stable than windows. :)
my only problem with that "virus" is you still have to type in your admin password.
never type in your password unless you know why your doing it .........
if your really paranoid.... make a second account on the machine and give it no admin rights and use that for surfing and general computing.
Zundfolge
03-02-2011, 16:33
Popularity of the OS isn't why Windows has more virii than any other OS, the main reason is the effing Registry.
Do away with the Registry (which doesn't exist in any of the *nix based OSs) and you eliminate most of the virus problems
Byte Stryke
03-02-2011, 17:12
Popularity of the OS isn't why Windows has more virii than any other OS, the main reason is the effing Registry.
Do away with the Registry (which doesn't exist in any of the *nix based OSs) and you eliminate most of the virus problems
As with anything, when you build a better mousetrap, the mouse simply evolves.
Popularity of the OS isn't why Windows has more virii than any other OS, the main reason is the effing Registry.
Do away with the Registry (which doesn't exist in any of the *nix based OSs) and you eliminate most of the virus problems
Yeah... I'm 100% certain that with 85-90% of all computers running a windows OS that it has SOME deciding factor in what direction virus makers want to place their time and effort.
[ROFL1]
there's all kinds of stuff you can do with /etc to wreak havoc
Zundfolge
03-02-2011, 19:08
Yeah... I'm 100% certain that with 85-90% of all computers running a windows OS that it has SOME deciding factor in what direction virus makers want to place their time and effort.
Since most of the servers that make up the internet backbone are UNIX machines it would actually make sense to target THEM over Windows desktop machines, yet they don't anywhere near as often.
Windows, just because of the way its designed is easier to target with viruses than any other operating system. I'm sure its popularity has something to do with it but primarily its the ease with which it can be compromised that draws the virus writers and more to the point the way Windows is designed makes spreading from machine to machine easier, thus making Windows a bigger target.
Those few virii that have successfully infected *NIX machines just don't propagate as easily and die off before they get wide spread.
Since most of the servers that make up the internet backbone are UNIX machines it would actually make sense to target THEM over Windows desktop machines, yet they don't anywhere near as often.
Windows, just because of the way its designed is easier to target with viruses than any other operating system. I'm sure its popularity has something to do with it but primarily its the ease with which it can be compromised that draws the virus writers and more to the point the way Windows is designed makes spreading from machine to machine easier, thus making Windows a bigger target.
Those few virii that have successfully infected *NIX machines just don't propagate as easily and die off before they get wide spread.
So... you're trying to tell me that it would make more sense to go after a backbone server that is protected by several hardware firewalls, data logging, honey pots and monitored real-time (I don't CARE what the OS is) than desktops with people that click on anything, download anything, visit any site, don't update their OS/Apps, etc?
You put Linux (any version) on 90% of the desktops out there and you would see how quickly the virus comunity can come up with exploits to get your information and put them on every gray site. Some of the garbage is just for fun but the really impressive codes are about making money. Target the 90% or target the 10% when the all mighty $ is involved.
No computer or OS is secure unless you put it in a box of concrete and drop it into the ocean.
HBARleatherneck
03-03-2011, 07:49
for the last week, I have had issues using internet explorer on this site. 2 years no problem. now, i cant open many threads and cant post. i have to use firefox for this site and snipershide.
theGinsue
03-03-2011, 08:06
As an old Honeywell mainframe operator/system software analyst flavored guy, I happily slid right on into being Solaris (Unix) Sys Admin. I still get to work with Solaris and Suse Linux, but now also have the bulk of my machines running Windows XP, Vista, and Win 7 (not by my choice).
Oh well, it's a job & a freakin' adventure!
Byte Stryke
03-03-2011, 12:17
I will have to go with Weirjf on this one.
even if the base vulnerability of the two OS's were exactly the same, the defenses of the home network vs. the business network are so different, then you add in the professional level daily maintenance and monitoring, it adds too much to the difficulty to make it worthwhile to go after just as a general target.
Now, this does not mean it cannot be taken as a target, I'm just saying if you are going to hit soft targets for malware targets and zombie armies, go after the PC.
Seriously, I worked on a PC last week that wasn't even up to XP SP1a
[Shock]
hollohas
03-04-2011, 13:14
Finally back home, checked up on this thread and it has gotten to the point that I don't understand what all you computer nerds are talking about operating systems, vulnerabilities, etc, etc.
The story of computers and me:
Step 1: Get computer from employer or buy at Best Buy (all windows based).
Step 2: Go home, install Norton, connect to my wireless network.
Step 3: Use internet or do work.
The end.
The good news is all my computers are working with IE again and so is the system at Frontier airlines so I can book more flights. I have always used Chrome on my PC and will now install and use it on all my computers. That was hard to do when IE wasn't working, but consider it done now. I like it better anyway.
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