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BushMasterBoy
03-03-2011, 13:36
Another in the Springsl (http://l)
ghettodub
03-03-2011, 13:37
Another shooting in the Springs...
http://www.gazette.com/articles/police-113849-greyhound-dog.html
At least it wasn't a pitbull attacking them. They get too much bad press as it is
I'm a dog owner / lover to the nth degree, to the extent there is about 52% of the human population I would rather shoot dead [some I'd do with a smile] before I ever shot a dog, attacking or otherwise. That said; I would have done it too based on the reported circumstances and presuming that to be an accurate portrayal of events.
Bad day all-around, especially for Flato. :(
Big bummer. I've known several mastiff breeds. They have all been wonderful dogs. I wonder (wander?) what got this one aggitated at the greyhound. Oh well, they are still animals. Sad situation. I think the greyhound owner was in his right though. Shouldn't walk a dog you can't "control" - simply meaning a 150+lb dog probably isn't the best bet for a frail old lady type.
I'd have to agree with Cebue... there are certain humans I'd rather put down before dogs, lol.
I love dogs more than most humans but if your dog gets loose or you don't leash it... you get what you get. I've been told several times that the large dog with hackles up struggling against the leash to get to my dog is "nice".
Your dog attacks my dog, unprovoked on my dogs part, I don't care how "sweet" it is normally, it won't walk away.
hurley842002
03-03-2011, 15:02
Ms. Martinez sounds just like the folks who claim their Children's innocence after breaking into someones house and getting shot. Amazing, and I too love dogs.
from the comments:
doctorjosiah (http://www.gazette.com/share/profiles/?slid=45392a37-e7e1-4774-4951-d4f922e28393&plckUserId=45392a37-e7e1-4774-4951-d4f922e28393)
10:30 AM on March 3, 2011
I know the shooter personally.
The shooter attempted to subdue the attacking dog before resorting to lethal force. Additionally the owner never made an attempt to subdue her dog or to break it up.
Totally justified use of lethal force by a trained marksman with no danger to the public.
Where as the attacking dog obviously posed a severe risk to the public.
CrufflerSteve
03-03-2011, 18:10
The Mastiff breeds, due to their size, have to be taken very seriously. I've seen the dog owner's whining but she couldn't control it! I cared for an English Mastiff once and while he was sweet, he was stubborn. If he got upset about something it was hard to get him calmed down.
Steve
SideShow Bob
03-03-2011, 19:14
But how can the greyhound's owner be justified in drawing and firing when it was a dog that was threatened and in danger and not a human being's life that was in danger ?
Don't get me wrong I probably would have done the same thing if it were my dog that was being attacked, but how is this within the parameters of justifiable self defense ?
jerrymrc
03-03-2011, 20:21
But how can the greyhound's owner be justified in drawing and firing when it was a dog that was threatened and in danger and not a human being's life that was in danger ?
Don't get me wrong I probably would have done the same thing if it were my dog that was being attacked, but how is this within the parameters of justifiable self defense ?
Having been in that situation when a neighbors pit bull attacked another neighbors small dog being walked on a leash by a young girl......
KevDen2005
03-03-2011, 21:20
That's too bad, they are pretty good dogs usually. A few years ago we had to shoot one at work when out of no where it just snapped and bit half the owners face off (not literally but close). We had really no other option. But I believe any dog can snap and anyone should just be careful. Certain breeds just get bad names it seems
dodgefreak8
03-04-2011, 09:31
The humane society is going after the shooter which is b.s. We really need to back this guy. I feel my GSD is a member of my family and is treated as such. If another dog was tearing into him I wouldn't hesitate to shoot it. I don't understand what is more in-humane shooting the dog or letting the other tear the grey hound to shreds. The Humane society needs a reality check here and we need to give it to them. I'm looking for a number to call or an email to respond to on this matter.
I think I helped the dog trainer friend Shawna Pugmire, on the phone sometime last month.
Zundfolge
03-04-2011, 11:49
But how can the greyhound's owner be justified in drawing and firing when it was a dog that was threatened and in danger and not a human being's life that was in danger ?
Don't get me wrong I probably would have done the same thing if it were my dog that was being attacked, but how is this within the parameters of justifiable self defense ?
On TV the police officer they interviewed said he was justified because you are justified in discharging a firearm in city limits "to protect yourself, your property or your domestic animals."
But its clear to me the shooting is unjustified ... the Bull Mastiff was just bein' friendly ... givin' the greyhound a big ole hug ... on the neck ... with his mouth. BOOM! WINNING!
KevDen2005
03-04-2011, 12:27
The humane society is going after the shooter which is b.s. We really need to back this guy. I feel my GSD is a member of my family and is treated as such. If another dog was tearing into him I wouldn't hesitate to shoot it. I don't understand what is more in-humane shooting the dog or letting the other tear the grey hound to shreds. The Humane society needs a reality check here and we need to give it to them. I'm looking for a number to call or an email to respond to on this matter.
Agreed...leave a 2 year old in a car in the summer, no one calls the police, leave a dog in a car in the summer, calls fill up a computer screen...what is it with people?
Since when has it been legal to fire a gun in city limits to protect property? Stopping an arson is the only thing I can think of.
I read that at least one of the dogs had a Yo-Yo type retractable leash.
In my dealings with training dogs a short leash is better. The dogs learn their limit.
With the retractable leash they never really know how far they can go.
Then you have the possibility of a 100 lbs dog getting a running start and they pull you over at the end of the leash.
Much better to train the dog to heel and obey your commands.
I carry a firearm while walking my dog on a short leash.
Were conditioned to obey the law and keep dogs on a leash. The owner of the Greyhound was justified to shoot the other dog. But I would have let go of my dog which would have had a chance to run away and less chance of pulling me off balance.
Another reason to have a short leash is my dog can run free if I desire with less chance of getting hung up. My older dog learned to heel while holding her leash in her mouth.
Or just get a shock collar... put 'em on their side when they run!
I do not condone animal violence...
I trained my dog with a shock collar. Wonderful device. Wonderful dog. I also have a "yo-yo" leash and a short leash as well. All serve there purpose.
dodgefreak8
03-04-2011, 16:49
Here is the email address for the pikes peak humane society. Lets give them our opinion.
animalcontrol@hsppr.org (animalcontrol@hsppr.org)
Or just get a shock collar... put 'em on their side when they run!
I do not condone animal violence...
I trained my dog with a shock collar. Wonderful device. Wonderful dog. I also have a "yo-yo" leash and a short leash as well. All serve there purpose.
No one caught that? And I thought I was being snarky.... [Beer]
I'm just going to quit posting. I obviously have nothing to contribute anyways, lol.
man cleared for shooting, owner of dog that was shot ticketed.
http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/Man_Shoots_Kills_Dog_That_Attacked_His_Greyhound_1 17288533.html
Dogs can be hard to stop and I'm interested in what was used.
Two rounds to stop a big dog during an attack is pretty good.
The Humane Society of the Pikes Peak Region has issued a citation
Since when does the humane society have the power to issue citations?
Posted by: Dog Trainer [/B]Location: Colorado Springs on Mar 4, 2011 at 06:04 PM
Stay away from this man!! Obviously he lets his dog talk too much. Meaning his dog is not trained. True people that train there dogs do not let there dogs intimidate. And if you need to walk with your dog WITH a gun....maybe you should NOT be walking. This man was waiting for this moment for a long time. He kills a dog.... next it will be you]
Hmmmm, The stupid is real stong in this one.
SideShow Bob
03-04-2011, 23:37
On TV the police officer they interviewed said he was justified because you are justified in discharging a firearm in city limits "to protect yourself, your property or your domestic animals."
BOOM! WINNING!
OK,
I didn't hear or read this part.
Please, no more Charlie Sheen catch phrases ![Puke]
Byte Stryke
03-05-2011, 12:00
Please, no more Charlie Sheen catch phrases ![Puke]
Haters gonna hate
He has had at least one good one.
That we are to stand by the President right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.
Charlie Sheen (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/c/charlieshe321276.html)
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Entertainment/ht_charlie_sheen_twitpic_nt_110302_main.jpg
"Winning..! Choose your Vice...
OK, Back in the trunk
[ROFL1]
I would also like to know what authority the Humane Society has in this...why would they determine if there was animal cruelty? I don't understand that at all. This morning I did see they thought the shooter acted properly.
By the way I am a dog lover and support the Humane Society.
if the humane society wrote me a ticket I'd tear it up and laugh at them.
glad he shot the dog. I would have done the same thing had it been my dog getting attacked.
So what would have happened if the dog attacked its owner or the shooter after getting done killing the shooters dog if the shooter had not shot? What would people say then?
Im about as big of a dog lover as they come and I have to side with the shooter.
theGinsue
03-06-2011, 02:57
Since when does the humane society have the power to issue citations?
I would also like to know what authority the Humane Society has in this...why would they determine if there was animal cruelty? I don't understand that at all. This morning I did see they thought the shooter acted properly.
By the way I am a dog lover and support the Humane Society.
In Colorado Springs, the Humane Society is run by official "Animal Control Officers". These are essentially animal focused LEO's.
Now, why CoS blended animal control officers with the HS is beyond me, but.... Here we have it.
this reminds me of a vid I saw on youtube (that now I can't find)
in the vid a badge carrying member of the ASPCA demands access to private land to inspect a barn and calls the cops when the guy filming refuses to let him on the property because the owner is not there.
then the cop arrests the guy because he wouldn't turn off his camera when told.
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