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Am I hot under the collar! I just went into the Firing and shipped out a pistol with some accessories to Texas. They said that the package weighed 7 lbs, which was probably about right, but they charged me:
$30.00 for the Transfer Fee
$47.00 for the shipping - (they said that it had to be overnighted by law and I did insure it for $600.00, but I've shipped plenty through UPS and the first $100.00 in insurance is included and then it's something on the order of .35 cents for each additional hundred in coverage.)
$8.00 for "handling" - basically their charge for throwing it in a box and slapping a label on it.
In short they charged me $85.00! I was already there for almost an hour and a half while they tried to find the FFL info (which they already had been sent 3 times in the past two weeks), and by the time it was sorted out and I got the price, I didn't have either the time or inclination to try to begin the process again, since none of this was the buyers fault.
And to think that I've dropped over $600.00 in there in the last three months and was planning on doing so again. I was just getting to be pleased with them again, since over at Dave's I get nothing but attitude, so I don't give them any monies any longer, and was going to purchase more things at the Firing Line. That won't happen now, I'll just go to some of the other shops that have more positive feedback on this site. Oh well, I guess you live and you learn. Anyone else have any comments on whether this was about right and I shouldn't be peaved? If I'm in the wrong here, I'd like to know it so that I don't hold it against them.
Ice Pirate
04-13-2006, 16:32
I used to go in there a lot, but these days I feel they are way over priced and just as bad as Dave's when it comes to attitude.
Try Robs, just down the street from Daves, East and on the same side of the street. There is also one over on the West side of town, Tom and Jerry's I think. Real small place just off of I-70 near Golden. I've only been out there a couple of times, several years ago, but they treated me real well.
I usually avoid the Firing Line when ever possible.
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If you were sending it a gunsmith for repair, you didnt have to deal with an FFL. Still has to go UPS or FedEx.
Tom and Jerry's I think. .
[pirate]
Tom&Joes, Rumor has He's getting out of the bussiness.
Thanks for the replies, and since no one has said that the price I had to pay them wasn't out of order, I'll assume that I did have reason to be somewhat ticked at this.
If and when I ship FFL to FFL again, I won't be using them regardless. I believe that I can get the same type transaction done elsewhere for less, so that's what I'll do.
Thanks again.
Anyone else have any ideas if this was too much to pay??
Overnight shipping is a killer and $20-30 is the norm for an FFL transfer. I would not feel too screwed. Not happy mind you, but not like I was just violated.
Thanks for the info. That's what I was looking for. I have also heard that if it's an out of state transfer that it's ok for an individual to ship it directly to the receiving FFL via FedEx, UPS and I've even heard that you can ship it Priority Mail through the USPS. I don't know if this is true (legal) or not, but I'm not interested in taking the chance either way, since I don't do this too often (I haven't shipped one in years obviously) and I just go FFL to FFL. I try to keep my toys once aquired when I can.
So today is the 17th, I shipped on the 12th, and they didn't get it on the truck until the 13th, even though they assured me that it would go out on the 12th.
So with the holiday over the weekend, the shipment is set to be received today. Not too bad actually [angry] , a couple of hours for something that should have taken 20 minutes and $85.00 bucks to get a package shipped and delivered on the 13th, that is in reality going to be received (hopefully) 5 days later! Just food for thought for anyone planning on shipping out of The Firing Line. I don't plan on going back there anytime soon.
Thanks again for the comments that have been posted to my initial inquiry.
FWIW i recently sold a P7 to a guy back east. I went through green mountain guns and they charged me $65 which included everything ($1600 worth of insurance, and the FFL transfer fee).
Phillygunner
06-28-2006, 13:10
Rob is now officially closed for business and enjoying retirement. Tom is still in business and will continue to be in business until a better opportunity presents itself. I just bought a shotgun from Tom about a week ago. Tom will always make you a good deal and he's a good guy to deal with. Tom and Rob were two of my favorites of the small independents. Green mountain guns also will do you a nice deal. And a couple of the guys are real good guys. :roll:
MG42Maker
04-22-2007, 20:25
Having purchased a couple rifles from the consignment rack and used the range a few times I have this to say about the store:
Great selection of tacticool rifles, shotguns and pistols!
The younger guy behind the counter has been very polite and helpful. The older guys along with the owner come off as polite but "indifferent" to me. Having worked behind the counter myself, I can't much hold it against them. I was never treated badly or snubbed but didn't walk away exactly feeling great about doing business with them.
The indoor pistol range NEEDS BETTER VENTILATION! I've been to my share of indoor setups and theirs gets pretty bad if there are 3 or more people doing heavy shooting. If visiting during the weekends, expect smoggy conditions!
I rate:
A+ Gun selection
B to A- Service
A+ Knowledge
A+ Accessories selection
C Shooting Range
I'll pluck through the consignment rack, look for deals behind the counter and use the range only if I am desperate.
I stoped in there this weekend, they seemed nice enough, and they were very helpful. the prices seemed somewhat fair.
Im there pretty often...they are nice chatters, but a bit of gun snobs and overpriced...
They have a used Romanian AK for $600...I asked about that price, saying it was too high...they agreed, but that was it...still there months later and no price drop....
The range is okay, but me and some friends went there on 10/21 and it was downright frigid in there, with snow on the ground outside...overhead heaters on every lane, none turned on...
I'll say this, I bought my first firearm from them...pretty good deal. $325 for a Sigma .40 brand new...but yeah, they are overpriced but are friendly...theyve let me handle their MP5 a couple times, and the PS90 once...
Heads up...they have a truckload of stripped DPMS lowers in stock for $129.95 a piece! Looks like all their AR stuff is the same price it was last week...
mightymouse
11-07-2008, 13:46
Awwwww the range was cold. Gimme a break. Gunfights happen in all sorts of inclimate weather. I love their range because they let me DRAW from my holster or a low ready rifle (pistol caliber AR).
BS! All gunfights go down on partly cloudy days with temperatures at 60 or better...
FYI, The Firing Line has CMMG .22 conversion kits with 1 BDM 25rd mag in stock, I think a half dozen of em...
They also have a FDE PRS stock, and a few other items...a bit of a markup from online vendors (averaging around $20) but about evens out with shipping...
This is my second favorite shop in the area. I think they have the most knowledgeable staff of the shops I've been too, and a great mixed inventory. The staff at first seems like they might have an attitude but they don't. After 3 years of going in here, not one bad experience.
sneakerd
02-25-2011, 16:21
I've been going there and have been a member there for nigh on 10 years. They do charge higher-end retail for their new guns, but I have gotten 1 or 2 great deals from them on used guns. Both? times I made an offer lower than the tagged price, they went in back and came out agreeing to my offer. I'm nobody's buddy there but I am recognized when I go in. I've probably bought 4-5 guns there. Great selection, lots of used guns, something new whenever I visit. I like the place.
Busta Prima
02-25-2011, 16:56
You were basically ripped off.
Some FFLs don't even know this but an FFL can absolutely ship to an FFL via the US Postal Service. They can use normal, cheap means, not expensive overnight services.
$30.00 for the Transfer Fee
$47.00 for the shipping - (they said that it had to be overnighted by law and I did insure it for $600.00, but I've shipped plenty through UPS and the first $100.00 in insurance is included and then it's something on the order of .35 cents for each additional hundred in coverage.)
$8.00 for "handling" - basically their charge for throwing it in a box and slapping a label on it.
In short they charged me $85.00!
Transfer fee seems high to me but I guess it's normal for a brick and mortar store. I usually use home based FFLs who charge less.
$47 for shipping was too high based on what I said above. Priority mail flat rate would have been under $20 with FULL value insurance coverage.
$8 for handling is totally bogus because of the $30 for the transfer fee. For all you know they DID use the USPS and pocketed even more.
I'm all for businesses making profit but this and that Granpas story sure puts them in a bad light. This was beyond profit, it was gouging the customer.
I am currently a member of the range and I do 95% of the buying there. They do not have killer deals but they have a pretty good selection. They get a good amount items that just hit the market fairly fast. They are a class 3 dealer, huge bonus, and the closet store to me.
SideShow Bob
02-25-2011, 19:55
and the closet store to me.
Have you checked out That little gun shop at Colfax & Tower, right next to that CDOT yard? It is on the SW corner. Can't recall the name of it.
I'm amazed that guy stays in business. I've never seen any vehicles there.
Chad4000
02-26-2011, 11:10
The second gun I ever bought was a shotgun from them. The guy told me that it was a gun that it wasnt. i waaaaaaaay over paid.... you can literally get the gun that I bought used, for about as third as much brand new. They absolutely took advantage of a young inexperienced buyer. (this was years ago) . needless to say, I have not purchased with them again.
then getting attitude from them everytime trying to use the range... I havent been back there.
Chad4000
02-26-2011, 11:19
Awwwww the range was cold. Gimme a break. Gunfights happen in all sorts of inclimate weather. I love their range because they let me DRAW from my holster or a low ready rifle (pistol caliber AR).
then thats new,,, last time i was there 6 months or so ago, there was absolutely no holster draw...
sneakerd
02-26-2011, 17:50
To my knowledge- it is against the rules to use a holster at Firing Line.
Dusty Johnson
02-27-2011, 15:21
The range at the firing line is a JOKE. Some of the employees are assholes. A lot of the people that shoot at that range are knuckle draggers. I am shocked there are not weekly shootings there.
sneakerd
02-27-2011, 15:49
Ouch. Guess I won't be seeing you there anytime soon! I don't doubt that there are many shooters there with poor range discipline, but I don't see much of that because I shoot on the members side. I don't know any employee there who I would consider to be an a--hole. Granted their range needs updating, but as a member, it is cheap to shoot there and I've met some great people shooting over there, and have had a lot of fun.
DeusExMachina
02-27-2011, 16:42
The range at the firing line is a JOKE. Some of the employees are assholes. A lot of the people that shoot at that range are knuckle draggers. I am shocked there are not weekly shootings there.
Maybe they're assholes because you're an asshole to them?
I've never had any problems there.
sneakerd
02-27-2011, 19:45
I was kinda thinkin' along the lines of DeusExMachina's statement, but I was warned on another forum recently about a very direct statement that I made about a Colt product, so I figgered I should walk softly as I am new around here.
DeusExMachina
02-27-2011, 20:04
I was kinda thinkin' along the lines of DeusExMachina's statement, but I was warned on another forum recently about a very direct statement that I made about a Colt product, so I figgered I should walk softly as I am new around here.
You pretty much said it anyway. [ROFL1] Don't troll too much, and don't shit on anyone's for sale threads and you'll be fine.
I've found that the Firing Line is always busy, no matter when I go. So the employees are always busy, and there's a lot of ganger-looking types that come in, a lot of morons, and a lot of grumpy people. Its retail. Being human, they can sometimes not be the cheeriest of people, but I never could call anyone an asshole there. Maybe its because I don't treat them like shit, and they are OK to me.
Dusty Johnson
02-27-2011, 20:18
Maybe they're assholes because you're an asshole to them?
Possible but not probable. I treat everyone with respect until they give me a reason not to.
sneakerd
02-27-2011, 20:21
Fair enough- 'nuff said.[Beer]
Fondis Firearms
02-27-2011, 23:08
I've bought a lot of guns from the Firing Line, and I think you can get a good deal on used guns if you know what you are looking at. My biggest thing is that I have wondered if the owner is bipolar or something. I never know if he is going to be happy/friendly, or a grouchy sob! When I asked him if I could bring students to the range, he got really rude with me and said no. What a shame; I could have brought him a lot of new business. The younger employees have always been friendly and helpful though.
I am currently using them for a transfer and am not pleased so far. I called and spoke to Bob on Thursday. I am not a patient person and knowing this I make sure that I don't wait longer for things then necessary. I specifically asked Bob if I would be able to pick the item the day it came in. He tells me yes no problem. So I go ahead and set it up. I have and pay for the item to be shipped priority so I can get it faster. Again the patience thing.
So the item gets here yesterday morning. I don't here from them all day and give them a call around 6pm. I inform them that they have it and ask if I can pick it up. I'm told no it generally takes 24hrs for them to "check it in" and the guy that does it wasn't there. But it should be ready by tomorrow (today) afternoon. I haven't heard anything today so I just called. They told me it's not ready and won't be today because the guy is not in today. But it should be ready tomorrow.
Really?!?! I just paid extra to get it shipped faster so I can wait several days after you get it to pick it up?!? Yeah thanks! I kept my cool and told the guy that I'm impatient and had they been upfront and told me that it would be at least 24hrs in the first place I never would have went with them. All I got was "sorry."
From a business standpoint does someone down there not think that only having one person on the planet that is capable of doing this for them might be a HUGE oversight??
Dusty Johnson
03-08-2011, 20:23
I am currently using them for a transfer and am not pleased so far. I called and spoke to Bob on Thursday. I am not a patient person and knowing this I make sure that I don't wait longer for things then necessary. I specifically asked Bob if I would be able to pick the item the day it came in. He tells me yes no problem. So I go ahead and set it up. I have and pay for the item to be shipped priority so I can get it faster. Again the patience thing.
So the item gets here yesterday morning. I don't here from them all day and give them a call around 6pm. I inform them that they have it and ask if I can pick it up. I'm told no it generally takes 24hrs for them to "check it in" and the guy that does it wasn't there. But it should be ready by tomorrow (today) afternoon. I haven't heard anything today so I just called. They told me it's not ready and won't be today because the guy is not in today. But it should be ready tomorrow.
Really?!?! I just paid extra to get it shipped faster so I can wait several days after you get it to pick it up?!? Yeah thanks! I kept my cool and told the guy that I'm impatient and had they been upfront and told me that it would be at least 24hrs in the first place I never would have went with them. All I got was "sorry."
From a business standpoint does someone down there not think that only having one person on the planet that is capable of doing this for them might be a HUGE oversight??
I had something similar happen to me at that hell hole (The Firing Line). I used them for a transfer and also had spent extra money for faster shipping. Fed ex delivers the gun at 3:30 on a week day. I call at 4:30 letting them know that I tracked the package and it had been there an hour and wanted to know when I could come in and do the paperwork and pick it up. I was told that it could take a day for them to check it in and they would call me when it was ready for pickup. I told them that I had payed extra shipping to get the gun to them faster and asked if there was anything that could be done so I could pick it up that day. I was told no and that I would be called when it was ready for pickup. In my opinion that is PISS POOR customer service.
It turns out they called me about 7pm that night saying it was ready for pickup and I went in and got it that day. Everything worked out in the long run but the bottom line is that place SUCKS. Some of their employees are dicks and their customer service IMO BLOWS.
Rant over :p
sneakerd
03-08-2011, 20:40
For all of the "ranters" on here and the Firing Line haters (nothing personal)- Please don't go to the Firing Line! It'll be less busy for me![Beer]
For all of the "ranters" on here and the Firing Line haters (nothing personal)- Please don't go to the Firing Line! It'll be less busy for me![Beer]
It's all yours.. I don't think I'm out of line. They have cost me time and extra money buy telling me something that wasn't true.
sneakerd
03-08-2011, 21:30
Never meant to imply you were out of line, as I said- nothing personal. It was kind of a tongue-in-cheek statement. TDYRanger and I went there last Friday to do some shootin'. We experienced two employees there who were leaning right into the asshole cage. It's actually the first time I've seen that there. At what 1pm, the entire lot was full. I asked the short guy with the Brit accent what was up, he said it was some kind of city furlough day (Comments Off Topic/Possibly Inflamitory). As we were shooting on the member's side- no wait, but supposedly an hour wait on the public side. It can and does happen everywhere, but there aren't too many places around with that stock and a range. I always go and do some shootin', take a break and shop, then finish up. I'll buy anybody here a drink anytime, even if we disagree![Beer]
Unless you're a Democrat. Then I'll have to think about it.
Nothing personal taken sir. I get ya. :)
So I just called to see where I'm at. All the guy tells me is that the guy is there and if he gets to it he'll call me. I explain the situation to him, paid for faster shipping, told I would bed able to pick it up same day and you've had it for three.. Response is we'll get to it when we get to it.
They will NEVER see another cent from me. They act like they're the only firearms dealer around.. If I could have my item removed from them and shipped somewhere else I would. And I'd gladly wait while it happened to keep them from getting my money at all!
DeusExMachina
03-09-2011, 14:20
All these stories tells me that Bowers' needs to get an FFL ASAP.
AMEN! They are working on it, so I have been told. I hope it will be soon.
StagLefty
03-09-2011, 17:43
I think Mike is planning on it sometime this year ?
DeusExMachina
03-09-2011, 17:54
I think Mike is planning on it sometime this year ?
He is, that's why I mentioned it. I don't really trust or care to deal with shipping a gun to anyone else. Plus, I know Mike prices his stuff reasonably, so I'd just buy straight from him.
MuzzleFlash
03-09-2011, 19:34
If you were sending it a gunsmith for repair, you didnt have to deal with an FFL. Still has to go UPS or FedEx.
Actually a private citizen can send a long gun or a handgun to any FFL - doesn't have to be for gunsmithing. The return trip is the case where gunsmithing becomes a factor. Why didn't he just send it UPS himself?
I couldn't agree more about Firing Line. I've been with Dusty Johnson for most of his visits there as well and I was completely turned off from them. I will never again set foot in that place and neither will anyone I shoot with.
Anyways, if you live in the Firestone area, I highly recommend the FFL below. He's a coworker of mine (in LE).
Patrick Gallagher
Tri-Town Trading & Consulting Co.
Firestone, CO 80504
Email: Click here to email me (http://www.gunbroker.com/FFL/ContactDealer.aspx?Dealer=16541&ReturnTo=%2fFFL%2fSearchForFFL.aspx%3fst%3dZip+Cod e%26sv%3dCO)
Phone: 720-202-2298
Hours: Mon 9:00 am - 5:00 pm; Tue - Sat - by appointment
Long Gun Fee: $20.00
Hand Gun Fee: $20.00
http://www.gunbroker.com/FFL/SearchForFFL.aspx?st=Zip%20Code&sv=80520
I over paid for my M&P 40 from The Firing Line, because I was impatient and they had it in stock. I didn't know crap about guns and asked about registration. They laughed at me, and made fun of me, but never explained anything to me.
Dusty Johnson
03-09-2011, 22:10
Patrick is a great guy. He is very professional and his prices are very fair.
I couldn't agree more about Firing Line. I've been with Dusty Johnson for most of his visits there as well and I was completely turned off from them. I will never again set foot in that place and neither will anyone I shoot with.
Anyways, if you live in the Firestone area, I highly recommend the FFL below. He's a coworker of mine (in LE).
Patrick Gallagher
Tri-Town Trading & Consulting Co.
Firestone, CO 80504
Email: Click here to email me (http://www.gunbroker.com/FFL/ContactDealer.aspx?Dealer=16541&ReturnTo=%2fFFL%2fSearchForFFL.aspx%3fst%3dZip+Cod e%26sv%3dCO)
Phone: 720-202-2298
Hours: Mon 9:00 am - 5:00 pm; Tue - Sat - by appointment
Long Gun Fee: $20.00
Hand Gun Fee: $20.00
http://www.gunbroker.com/FFL/SearchForFFL.aspx?st=Zip%20Code&sv=80520
I deal with Randy at R&S Manufacturing, LLC. His prices are very fair and usually beats the other dealers prices in town and at the gun show. His transfers are only $20.00. I check with him first to see what he has in stock or what he can get me something for and for all my gunbroker purchases (that is where I found him). I think the folks at R&S have customer satisfaction as a priority. FWIW
Pot Shot
Stopped by to see if they had a Rem 700 that I wanted to take a look at before putting down 1200.00 for this particular rifle. Well Bob there after I said I just wanted to look at it ignors me. And I have to get his attention very loudly and ask him if he is going to show me the gun or not. then he asks if this is going to be a "Transfer" . ask him some questions on the rifle and he plays dumb. So apparently if you are not going to spend any $$$ there or buy their rifles or handguns they don't have to provide any customer service. their price for the rifle was not out of line and if I would have received better customer service I would have bought it right then and there.
So Bob cost them a 1249.00 sale. and a 559.00 scope sale as well
Will not set foot in there again.
Did you at least tell him that he lost out on an $1,800 sale?
sneakerd
03-11-2011, 22:48
I'm sorry guys but I am a regular customer and member there and do not see the poor customer service that is being reported. I would think that a -fairly-? experienced salesman should be able to read a customer ready to buy. There are always quite a few guys behind the counter, all ready and eager to make a sale. Some may not know quite as much as we think we do, but that can't really be held against a man or woman making $10 an hour with no benefits.
SideShow Bob
03-12-2011, 06:16
Comments Off Topic/Possibly Inflamitory
sneakerd
03-12-2011, 08:18
Comments Off Topic/Possibly Inflamitory
SideShow Bob
03-12-2011, 08:29
Comments Off Topic/Possibly Inflamitory
sneakerd
03-12-2011, 10:29
Agreed. Waaay off topic.
gnihcraes
03-12-2011, 10:37
Comments off topic
A buddy of mine just started working there, if anyone's interested I will pass on his name, he will take care of you without all the BS...
I'll admit I get a little overprotective when it comes to my wife, but she's put up with my crap for 17 years and I lover her more than life itself. However...
We dropped by the Firing Line to check out a Springfield EMP for my wife. I was looking for a set of grips for my Valor (no 1911 grips to be found there) and left her alone to ask questions. She inquired about the action, safety, and capacity and the guy behind the counter suggested she "read a book about guns" before buying one.
[Rant1]
If she hadn't ripped him a new one, I would have. Those were legit questions!
Show me the safety. Is it single or double action (being it looks like a mini 1911)? What is the capacity - single or double stack?/
Perhaps those a$$hats should "read a book" on customer service!
Geez that pisses me off.
Fist_gonzo
07-25-2011, 19:38
Yea no thanks, piss poor customer service, watched the guy behind the counter flirt with some girl about nothing gun or range related for 5 minutes before being shot down then decides to come help me, by then I told him nevermind ill go somewhere else. Ill stick to CC or the shootist.
bchase75
07-26-2011, 09:39
I haven't been there in quite awhile due to bizarrely hostile customer service. One guy in particular always struck me as being a couple sandwiches short of a picnic. After shooting at their range, I tried to pick up some +P ammo for my M&P .45 (Cor-bon, I think), and the guy behind the counter told me that I should check to see if it was safe to shoot the ammo in my pistol. No problem, I told him, its for a brand new M&P. He then proceeded to go on a five minute rant about how I didn't know anything about guns, and how it would serve me right if my gun blew up in my hand. By the end he was actually shouting :)
So yeah, long story short, tried to buy some ammo there, got yelled at by a psychotic employee, haven't been back since. I will say, however, that the guy with the British accent was very cool.....if I'd been able to deal with him exclusively I'd probably still be going there.
sneakerd
07-26-2011, 09:45
Returning to this thread to say that I am a member there, been going there pretty regular for over 10 years, and have never seen or heard anything like what is being reported.
OneGuy67
07-26-2011, 13:46
I make it a point to stop in there when I'm on that side of town to look around. I don't get hassled by anyone, nor am I completely ignored if I am looking for assistance.
Their prices are higher than a lot of other places, but they are a business and can price their stuff anyway they want. That being said, I don't need to spend my money there if I can find what I am looking for somewhere else at a cheaper price.
I've bought a couple of guns there and I tend to peruse their consignment section a lot.
Just my $.02. By the way, good meeting you the other day, Sneakerd!
sneakerd
07-26-2011, 13:50
You too pal! I have seen the gamut as far as FL pricing. Some of their new current manuf guns are high retail. I have also seen and bought a screaming deal or 2 (in my opinion), with plenty in between.
Byte Stryke
07-26-2011, 14:14
Returning to this thread to say that I am a member there, been going there pretty regular for over 10 years, and have never seen or heard anything like what is being reported.
you calling me a liar boy?
[Stick]
(Kidding)
I make it a point to stop in there when I'm on that side of town to look around. I don't get hassled by anyone, nor am I completely ignored if I am looking for assistance.
Their prices are higher than a lot of other places, but they are a business and can price their stuff anyway they want. That being said, I don't need to spend my money there if I can find what I am looking for somewhere else at a cheaper price.
I've bought a couple of guns there and I tend to peruse their consignment section a lot.
Just my $.02. By the way, good meeting you the other day, Sneakerd!
be honest Oneguy... did you have ANYTHING PD on you or do they know you as a LEO?
one of my former professors is APD and he has no issues there... because they know he is PD.
but as far as their knowledge of gun laws and customer service... the place could vanish and I wouldn't miss it.
I Will drive past it 3 times to go to another shop.
sneakerd
07-26-2011, 14:27
Nah- just saying I haven't experienced what others have reported here. Trying not to be a shill![Stooge]
Byte Stryke
07-26-2011, 17:04
Its funny, my brother will go in and they treat him like he is a long lost and beloved relative. He is a LEO
I go in and its a different world.
we go in together and its almost comical
OneGuy67
07-26-2011, 20:17
you calling me a liar boy?
[Stick]
(Kidding)
be honest Oneguy... did you have ANYTHING PD on you or do they know you as a LEO?
one of my former professors is APD and he has no issues there... because they know he is PD.
but as far as their knowledge of gun laws and customer service... the place could vanish and I wouldn't miss it.
I Will drive past it 3 times to go to another shop.
No, they don't know me from Adam. I've never been in there in uniform (when I was uniformed), but I tend to keep to myself, smile and say "No thanks" when they ask if I need anything. I tend to go there on Sundays and they are always busy with people and I just wander around.
Trying not to be a shill![Stooge]
No one on here would ever call you a shill for liking a particular gun shop. ;)
I've been going to TFL for 10 + years.
The employee turnover is really high. I've dealt with some arrogant jerks and others that were pretty cool and others in between.
Richard (the guy with the British accent ) has always been very cool.
Their prices can be a little high (way better than Gander though LOL) but I have gotten a few real good deals there(mostly on used stuff). I stop in there every so often because I live close by.
Recently whenever I've stopped in there the employees have been very helpful and accomodating
NEVER enjoy going in there... but they are the closest shop that i can go fondle MSARS at, and they sometimes have a good deal on used long guns...
i do know that everytime i go to shoot handguns, they always bitch at me for doing double taps... im sure its more of a city policy, but come on, its two rounds... and, being 19, they always come to me with a condescending attitude... i know enough about firearms, thank you sir. i dont think i will ever buy anything from them.
akumadiavolo
08-03-2011, 10:36
My experience there was average. I went in with the Wife to pick out a new handgun. The guy behind the rental counter was nice. but when we went to actually buy the gun the salesman acted like we were an inconvenience in his day and was just a complete asshole. He then turn us over to a more important man, possible the manager, who treated us about the same. Every time I would ask or say something he would give me the shortest answer possible and try to act like we weren't even there.
Overall we got in, tried what we wanted and got what we wanted. The price of the gun was about 10 bucks less than other shops around town so the price is fair, just the service is rude. But in the end I don't care much about that since an hour later I am on the way home anyway. If we had needed more help or if I didn't know as much going in as I did it might have been an issue though.
The Firing Line will never get ANY of my $$$. Their customer service is always subpar and their prices are way out of control. I will drive a 100 miles out of my way if I have to and spend my money where it will go a lot further and I'll drive further if I know the people there will treat me well. When Bowers Tactical gets their FFL, that's where more of my hard earned $$$ will end up.
pauldunlop13
11-01-2011, 14:27
Nah- just saying I haven't experienced what others have reported here. Trying not to be a shill![Stooge]
Hi
I was there last night - no wait for the range - no problems renting a Glock 17 and shooting the $hit with 2 or 3 of the employees
I will be getting a membership there shortly and will likely be going shooting on Sunday mornings
At least 5 trips there so far without issue
SideShow Bob
06-16-2012, 12:05
Pick up a couple of fair deals on some new, really hard to items there.
I have been treated decently there. It is all about who you are talking to. Stay away from Sneakerd while you are there, he could smooth talk the Devil into buying a blast furnace.......[LOL]
Just kidding Dave, and thanks again.
Accidentally selected this place when purcasing a gun from Buds Gun Shop, since it was listed as a "preferred FFL" i figured I would give it a try.
Called and inquired about the information they needed, there was a lot of "labored sighs" and "well I need your phone number because that way I can call you" in a sarcastic tone while listing the information he needed from me. Along with some overly loud shuffling of paper back and forth like he had something better to do I was put off. You would think that an obvious new customer calling about a transfer, they would be a little nicer to get them to come in and buy things in the showroom.
meh, if they don't want my money that bad, than I am happy to oblige them after this transaction. I'll also update with the in-person experience.
sneakerd
08-15-2012, 17:46
If there's any way I can help you when you come in, I'll bend over backwards to make it better. Dave H.
SideShow Bob
08-15-2012, 17:48
I've had a few transfers done there, never had any problems. They were always happy for my business....[Dunno]
SideShow Bob
08-15-2012, 17:50
If there's any way I can help you when you come in, I'll bend over backwards to make it better. Dave H.
Sneakerd just likes bending over, and it doesn't have to be backwards.......[ROFL1]
sneakerd
08-15-2012, 18:17
fartknocker!
sneakerd
08-15-2012, 19:24
Seriously man- I'm pretty sure I know who it was, but I don't control other employees. I can only try to do my own damage control if possible.
islandermyk
08-16-2012, 00:04
meh, if they don't want my money that bad, than I am happy to oblige them after this transaction. I'll also update with the in-person experience.
Hope it all works out for you...
I know it should be common practice to show good customer service as an employee as they strongly represent the company, but it's also pretty common everywhere else to come across someone that is possibly having a heck of a day, and you probably ended up being a victim of this.. sh*t happens I guess... (believe me... I've seen some sh*t these guys go through too)
.. but for the past 2 years I've been dealing with'em... it hasn't been all to bad and certainly not the greatest experience[Coffee] but give'em a chance.. most of the guys in there are pretty freaken cool...
I've had a handful of transfers through them... and it's funny as hell! One of'em always complains "why don't you buy from us?!" I let'em know I'm just a cheap f*cker that's why [ROFL1]
sneakerd
08-16-2012, 07:53
If Mykey would just get a damn haircut, and not be such an islander hippie, we would give him more respect.......[Neene1][Sofa]
Thanks fellas, I certainly will give them a try. My GF bought a firearm from them a couple years ago, and she didn't have any complaints. Perhaps he was just having a bad day. I'll still update with my in-person experience. Should be getting the phone call tomorrow since it was delivered today.
Yeah, got to see who I talked to on the phone, I think that he probably is just an overall grumpy guy, maybe when I come back I'll bring him some homebrew to cheer him up.
Mike is nice like when the GF got her pistol. Apparently they go way back LOL. The other guy behind the counter (edit: Chris) I didn't really meet but he actually suggested that I would like to see what had been delivered, which the gentleman I talked to over the phone and who took my paperwork didn't seem to think about that. He was too busy suggesting that I didn't want to wait an hour and a half and that I should give him my number so I could come back when it was complete.
I browsed anyways since it was clear it wasn't what he wanted. Liked a few things, probably will buy another firearm they have in the case, but I'll just avoid that one gentleman.
Had a great time shooting at the Firing Line today with the wife. We spent two or three hours on lane #2, and must have shot a lil over 500 rounds of 9mm today.
Only person i spoke to was the guy at the range/rental counter , who was his usual friendly helpful self. Of course Thai food makes ppl happy too.
David
Spent some time on public lane three Friday... killed a bunch of paper With the wife, and the nice guy at the counter cleared up my jammed up glock after it had a failure to freakin work right.
Couple nice AKs sitting on the racks out on the floor caught my eye too.
Good day at the Firing Line....
gnihcraes
11-12-2012, 20:22
Was there today. Talked to sneakerd for a couple of minutes while my lady friend was checking out some of the pistols. Place was busy!
Everyone was friendly and the range was nice. I don't believe I've ever shot at the firing line before today. (35+ years in denver)
The fire was interesting, but they got that under control pretty quick. LOL. "Fire"ing Line.
I'll go back when that location is required.
Sincere thanks to Dave for posting with their new supply & prices! Gives the members first shot. Heard members had a run on HK P30s, Shields & ARs today.
Sincere thanks to Dave for posting with their new supply & prices! Gives the members first shot. Heard members had a run on HK P30s, Shields & ARs today.
Going there now to pick the wife up her first handgun, HK P30S 9mm.
Hope they still have one. If you were hoping to see Dave, I think he got off work at 5:00. Good luck finding your HK!
sneakerd
03-01-2013, 19:46
Hope you got one! We did have quite a few members in today getting in on the deals. I'm rather enjoying countering internet bulls--t and giving COAR members a first shot at stuff that I consider good deals. I'm not just posting up anything and everything, as that might get boring. I'm focusing on stuff that I know many of us are interested in and/or looking for, at prices that I consider bargains in today's market. By the way Sam, the more I look at reviews on those Core 15s, the more I want one! Dammmmnnn Yooouuu!
dwalker460
03-01-2013, 20:45
Wanted to come by, unfortunately they apparently are out of 115gr 200blk ammo...
ChunkyMonkey
03-01-2013, 20:47
Wanted to come by, unfortunately they apparently are out of 115gr 200blk ammo...
I guarantee you, noone in the US has 200 blk ammo in stock [Coffee]
dwalker460
03-01-2013, 20:54
HAHAHAHA must be time for more coffee!
Their transfer fee's used to be reasonable at$30..............................now they're $50. I was told because they are sooooooo busythey had to up the price. :(
Phil
USAF EOD Ret.
sneakerd
03-03-2013, 21:33
Pmags at the Firing Line are now $19.95 each- starting with Gen2 black 30s. [Neene2]
dwalker460
04-09-2013, 12:55
I have had various experiences with Firing line, about a year or so ago the staff bordered on rude and I was fairly oftentreated like an idiot or outright ignored, as a customer thats bad. I went to another indoor range for my winter shooting time. Recently I have been in a few times because they stocked the UMC 300Blk ammo and I purchased some other odds and ends. No real issue and the staff was much better. Last week I purchased a tube extension for my Remington shotgun, decent price and in stock. Unfortunately, it ended up being the same one I already had on the gun- was looking for at least one or two more round capacity- so I needed to return it. Went in yesterday and made the return, no issues and they were very polite about it, no hassle at all. I actually spent some time wandering around the store just poking around to see what all was they had in stock. I think I met Dave *sneakerd* when I asked about a rifle bag for my FN. Very niceguy, and very honest about what the bag would and would not do. Addressed my key oncern that the bag might not be long enough and encouraged me to bring the rifle down and test fit it before purchase. Overall my opinion has really been changed regarding Firing line. I still find some of thier prices are a tick high, but the same is true of any shop of any sort, and everything was at least in line, unlike some other merchants.
islandermyk
04-21-2013, 20:28
Always fun walking in there.... yep, I bought something there today and kicked the sh*t with Sneakerd. Got to hold a bunch of cool stuff... and surprisingly enough... their shelves are coming back to life with some nice new guns [Coffee]
sneakerd
04-21-2013, 21:52
Thanks pal. If any of you don't know it... Islandermyk is one of coolest guys on the forum. You could do a lot worse than having him as a pard.
OctopusHighball
05-10-2013, 21:39
Had a chance to try out the range today for free. Can anyone guess why?. Turns out this is a convenient location on my way home from work (live in CR, work out by the airport, oy vey!) so you may be seeing more of my ugly mug. Plus, you guys have a nice selection of milsurp sporters there... I have a soft spot for them even if they are the red-headed freckled step-child of the gun world.
Had a chance to try out the range today for free. Can anyone guess why?. Turns out this is a convenient location on my way home from work (live in CR, work out by the airport, oy vey!) so you may be seeing more of my ugly mug. Plus, you guys have a nice selection of milsurp sporters there... I have a soft spot for them even if they are the red-headed freckled step-child of the gun world.
It was a pleasure having you over. I think I remember who you were (Colt Gold Cup?). Either way, hope to see you again soon.
Regards,
D
OctopusHighball
05-11-2013, 12:45
It was a pleasure having you over. I think I remember who you were (Colt Gold Cup?). Either way, hope to see you again soon.
Regards,
D
Yep, that was me!
sneakerd
07-02-2013, 18:40
fyi- Firing Line is lowering the standard transfer fee back down to the pre-panic price of $30. This does not include the Governor's tax of $10. Effective immed. We'll have quite a few customers get a pleasant surprise when they come in over the next week to pick up the transfers -they thought- they were going to have to pay $50 for.
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