Cheap CCW Class

[patrick0685]

found this online, cheapest course I have found:

The Concealed Carry Institute (http://www.concealed-carry.net/index.php)

[daknee_k]

Can't be a whole lot of training going on here. Anyone try it?[Luck]

[lebru]

Have to be careful, I did a super cheap one that was barely above the minimum requirements. Sheriffs department told me it didn't count so I had to re-take it. The website I went to was out of business the next week, and I went to Colorado Weapons Training.

[homersapien]

$100 at Prairie Arms. Not the cheapest, but one of the shortest at only 2 hours.

http://www.prairiearms.com/

Some counties (e.g. Douglas County) do not accept online training, and for good reason.

[Byte Stryke]

with all of the quality trainers we have here, why are you guys going anywhere else?


Call TheInternet, send him a PM.
NRA Certified and a helluva guy.

I hear he has some time on his hands of late.

[patrick0685]

Why is everyone hating on cheap training when we all wanted to bill not requiring anything

[TriggerHappy]

Why is everyone hating on cheap traing when we all wanted to bill not requiring anything

Dude your spelling sucks. (or your droid sucks more than an Iphone at spell check) [LOL]

Quit being cheap, you fight how you train. I understand you dont want to spend a bunch of money, but since you havent taken a class, why not drop a little extra, get some good training and sign off on your CCW?

Even if Colorado adapts the same laws that Alaska has for CCW doesn't mean you shouldn't take a class. There are a lot of knuckleheads in AK that don't know what they are doing and have no business carrying.

[patrick0685]

Ill agree to good training but I have yet to hear of a ccw class around here that offers good training, so why spend $100 on a ccw class when you could roll that money into a actual training class where they tought you relistic things instead of how to hit paper standing still from 10 ft away. As to spelling it was early and honestly I passed that class long ago im not trying to impress you f*ckers with my linguistic abilitys.

[Bailey Guns]

I'm gonna half-ass plug our training class...just to give some perspective on a lot of discussions that go on here.

My partner and I give a class that's 10 hours long. We start early and go all day. We even have students eat lunch during a lecture. This is NOT a certificate mill.

My partner is an airline pilot/sworn federal officer/instructor at Front Sight. Very well qualified. I'm a long time police firearms instructor, former Air Force Combat Arms Instructor and I've been teaching CCW in CO for over 10 years (also certified in UT). Not tooting horns, just saying our qualifications and experience level go far beyond your basic "NRA Pistol" instructor.

We spend a lot of time covering the basics and a lot of time on legal issues. We provide a comprehensive handout that covers EVERYTHING we discuss with plenty of references.

We do not do live fire. However, we use an interactive computer simulator that puts the student into real-life shoot/no-shoot situations...very similar to judgmental training simulators that LE uses. Unless you've been in a lethal force situation you really can't imagine how fast they unfold. We also stress continuing education and appropriate "live-fire" training...stressing that our class is just the beginning...not the end-all...of our student's gun training and education.

We also provide snacks and drinks. We pretty much work our asses off during the class.

We charge a whopping $119 for this. I consider that to be cheap for what we provide.

So, the point really isn't to push our training class...that info is out there if you're looking. The point is we feel we provide an unbeatable price and outstanding training for the average person looking for a class. No one leaves our training wanting for more information. We also provide realistic firearms training that is (we think) far more likely to prepare people for what to expect in a lethal force encounter over the standard 20-30-40 round live-fire "qualification" courses others provide.

If you've never been in a lethal force encounter I can't stress how useless "training" that only requires you to fire your gun under conditions of no stress, good lighting, no perceived threat, no time limits, not drawing from a holster/concealment, etc...really is.

[patrick0685]

see this would be a better altertive than some of the other class...then comes problem two for some people, me included, do you do these classes in the week? Because it will be a cold day in hell when I have weekends off next.[ROFL1]

[patrick0685]

plus if a stupid Hunter Saftey Course counts as training for your CCW then just about anything should, including these internet classes. I would guess that anyone here could pass the Hunter Saftey with their eyes closed.

[spyder]

Hey, at least you guys have CCW classes there that offered live fire exercises! I think most of the ones down here are 55 to 75 bucks and you just sit and listen to the instructor. That's what mine was anyway, did it at sportsmans. [Tooth] I will agree with you pat on taking the cheapest damn course that will get you your papers. Then find a good course, or someone who knows their stuff and go out with them and practice. Sounds like Bailey knows a thing or two!

[spyder]

plus if a stupid Hunter Saftey Course counts as training for your CCW then just about anything should, including these internet classes. I would guess that anyone here could pass the Hunter Saftey with their eyes closed.
Hunters saftey counts? Huh, I could have signed up for my CCW when I was 10 then. [ROFL1]

[Great-Kazoo]

see this would be a better altertive than some of the other class...then comes problem two for some people, me included, do you do these classes in the week? Because it will be a cold day in hell when I have weekends off next.[ROFL1]

the simulator that bailey guns has i have trained on with another company no longer in business. If BG is unable to accommodate you for a week day class touch bases with me. i am hoping to be up an hopping (no longer able to run) here in the next few weeks. i like other instructors on the board have references from other board members. pm me for more info. ONLY IF BG does not do week day classes. -

[Bailey Guns]

see this would be a better altertive than some of the other class...then comes problem two for some people, me included, do you do these classes in the week? Because it will be a cold day in hell when I have weekends off next.[ROFL1]

PM inbound to you.

[Byte Stryke]

Hunters saftey counts? Huh, I could have signed up for my CCW when I was 10 then. [ROFL1]



[Bang]



I would like to add that if you read the rules and regs.. it doesnt say you have to have a beginner course.



I think you could also use certain handgun shooting events. [citation needed]

[argonstrom]

I would like to add that if you read the rules and regs.. it doesnt say you have to have a beginner course.



I think you could also use certain handgun shooting events. [citation needed]

http://www.co.arapahoe.co.us/Departments/SH/Concealed%20Weapons/ACSO_CHP_Info_Pack_102609.pdf



[B]

TRAINING REQUIREMENTS
The applicant must demonstrate competence with a handgun by submitting the following:

Evidence of experience with a firearm through participation in organized shooting competitions or current military service.

Evidence that, at the time the application is submitted, the applicant is a certified instructor.

Proof of honorable discharge from a branch of the United States Armed Forces within the three years preceding submittal of the application.

Proof of honorable discharge from a branch of the United States Armed Forces that reflects pistol qualifications obtained within the ten years preceding submittal of the application.

A certificate showing retirement from a Colorado Law Enforcement Agency that reflects pistol qualifications obtained within the ten years preceding submittal of the application.

A training certificate from a "handgun training class" (see definitions) obtained within the ten years preceding submittal of the application. The applicant shall submit the original training certificate or a photocopy thereof that includes the original signature of the class instructor. In obtaining a training certificate from a handgun training class, the applicant shall have discretion in selecting which handgun training class to complete.

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18-12-202.5 "HANDGUN TRAINING CLASS" MEANS:
(a) A LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING FIREARMS SAFETY COURSE;
(b) A FIREARMS SAFETY COURSE OFFERED BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY, AN INSTITUTION OR ORGANIZATION OR FIREARMS TRAINING SCHOOL, THAT IS OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND IS TAUGHT BY A CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR; OR
(c) A FIREARMS SAFETY COURSE OR CLASS THAT IS OFFERED AND TAUGHT BY A CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR.

Thanks for the plug, by the way, Byte. :)


Lots of good people offer great training on this site!

[Irving]

Quit being cheap, you fight how you train.


That's what combat pistol competitions are for! [Beer]

[gravedigger]

Cheapest and most convenient I have found is here...
http://www.highlandsranchfirearms.com/
$50 and you can do it from the comfort of your favorite recliner. This is definitely not for everyone, always good to get range training IMHO.

[Hkguy45]

im not sure what would possess someone to take an online class especially not one that presents it in a "universal" sense...i.e. the CCW Institute...why would you spend money on a class that doesn't even teach you the laws of carrying in colorado. also, i do believe that ccwing should be a right not a privilege however, that being said...there are just some people who do NOT qualify to be carrying around a gun...think about when you go up to the range and there's always that one person(or multiple people) who are just blasting rounds not really knowing how to hold their weapon properly or even clear a malfunction when needed and when they bring back their targets there are fliers all over the paper...look at them, and think very hard about whether you want this person carrying a weapon and trying to "defend" when something happens.not only are they not going to protect themselves theyre probably creating a liability in the process..training is priceless in my opinion and if you are really serious about wanting to carry a gun don't pay for one of these 1 hour online classes. carrying a weapon becomes a responsibility and if you're really thinking about the "cheapest" route maybe you should reconsider...just my .02...opinions are like assholes..everyones got one

[Hkguy45]

also, you could try taking a defensive pistol course, where the whole course is just shooting and learning to draw from holster etc...it'd be worth your time if you'd rather not sit and get lectured about the law for 8hours

[patrick0685]

also, you could try taking a defensive pistol course, where the whole course is just shooting and learning to draw from holster etc...it'd be worth your time if you'd rather not sit and get lectured about the law for 8hours

basically what I was saying is why pay $150 dollars for something that is and should be constitutionally guaranteed. I will agree that at least in CO you can take a defensive pistol course or something of the like that would count towards a CO CCW.

[Hkguy45]

basically what I was saying is why pay $150 dollars for something that is and should be constitutionally guaranteed. I will agree that at least in CO you can take a defensive pistol course or something of the like that would count towards a CO CCW.

i know what you're saying...150 is pretty steep..however i just happened to be at 5280 armory when they said someone dropped out of the def. course and i could sign up for $75! to me that's not bad at all...minimum 250 rounds and shooting my 1911 it cost me a little bit but overall a good class and well worth the money.....CCW specific classes are boring and tiresome by themselves..however i think for people who are not familiar with the laws of where/not they can carry it can be difficult for some to decipher the law. i've just heard negative things about the online classes (applications coming back etc) i think its just easier to pay for it the first time and just get it over with! think of it as going back to college for a day, you may not want to sit in there but once you get your diploma(ccw permit) its all worth it!

[patrick0685]

nice $75 defensive pistol class...i would have jumped all over it

[Hkguy45]

nice $75 defensive pistol class...i would have jumped all over it



it was a good deal i think regularly they're 100$ not trying to step on anyones toes here regarding the Armory since i know a lot of you offer classes as well...just letting you know there ARE alternatives to just a CCW specific class!

[Lex_Luthor]

I would definitely be interested in a defensive pistol class like that, especially for that price! I'll have to start saving my pennies and start looking into taking a class like that.

[Opie]

Why pay some dolt 100 bucks?


Join USPSA/IDPA get out and shoot, after you get classified you can present your membership card as proof of training. I have paid the dolt, but never again.

[Bailey Guns]

Why pay some dolt 100 bucks?


Because shooting competition doesn't teach you anything about legal issues, surviving the aftermath of a shooting, what to say when the police show up, and on and on.

Some classes are worth the cost of admission. Some aren't. Not all instructors are "dolts" just like all competition shooters aren't Rob Leatham.

[mousegun87]

$100 at Prairie Arms. Not the cheapest, but one of the shortest at only 2 hours.

http://www.prairiearms.com/

Some counties (e.g. Douglas County) do not accept online training, and for good reason.


I plan to apply for CO CCW using my MO training certificate. In MO, the state makes in mandatory for CCW training to be conducted for 8 hours minimum and it includes live-fire qualification using both pistol and revolver. Moreover, CCW instructors must be certified by the state.

Do you think a MO CCW certificate will be accepted for CO CCW application? I will include a copy of my instructor certificate issued by the state of Missouri.