another ccw question

[glocklp]

I have been in the Army for quite awhile now, and the ccw paperwork says if im not in handgun shooting or shooing competitions, than I still have to take a ccw class? Does that make any sense to you? I always thought basic training would handle requirements for the class. If anyone has any feedback id appreciate it. Thanks!

[SideShow Bob]

My CCW is from Arap. Cnty. I think there is something about Military service counting for the training if you haven't been out too long, over 5 years I think.
Could be wrong though, my memory is worse than my computhingy skills.

[ChadAmberg]

From the El Paso County website (if you were located here)

To apply for a concealed handgun permit, you will need the following: a completed application, your original certificate of firearms training issued within the last ten years, (acceptable firearms training includes: NRA, Hunter’s Safety, proof of organized shooting competitions, DD2-14, Active Duty Orders)
So you're probably covered.
But think about it: What I learned in basic and all my firearms use showed me how to shoot. But a good concealed class teaches you a completely different set of skills, such as the when and how.

[Bailey Guns]

That statute (18-12-203: Criteria for Obtaining a Permit) says if you're assigned to CO pursuant to orders you're a resident.

It also says you can prove handgun competency if you can show:
Evidence of experience with a firearm through participation in organized shooting competitions or current military service
Proof of honorable discharge from a branch of the United States armed forces within the three years preceding submittal of the application
Proof of honorable discharge from a branch of the United States armed forces that reflects pistol qualifications obtained within the ten years preceding submittal of the applicationSo, you should be GTG. Just submit copies of the appropriate military training docs with you application.

[legaleagle]

Quote - (acceptable firearms training includes: NRA, Hunter’s Safety, proof of organized shooting competitions, DD2-14, Active Duty Orders)

last time I checked hunter safety was not enough. The class needed to focus on handguns. Has something changed I am not aware about?

[Irving]

State law says it is okay, individual counties can apparently not accept the Hunter Safety course.

[CUatTheEnd]

I have been in the Army for quite awhile now, and the ccw paperwork says if im not in handgun shooting or shooing competitions, than I still have to take a ccw class? Does that make any sense to you? I always thought basic training would handle requirements for the class. If anyone has any feedback id appreciate it. Thanks!


If I am active duty military, do I have to take a training class?
If you are active duty, you are not required to take a class, BUT we recommend that you do take a class. The rules of engagement and the use of deadly force are different in civilian life. It is important to know what you can and cannot do legally.

If I am former military, do I have to take a training class?
If your DD-214 is less than 3 years old, you are not required to take a class. If your DD-214 is more than 3 years old but less than 10 years old, it must show Pistol qualification in the last 10 years. If the DD-214 is more than 10 years old, then you have to attend a class or show other written proof of training in the last 10 years.

[AirbornePathogen]

I was still on reserve status when I got mine, and I just took them my ID card, and a copy of my range card from my last M9 qualification. El Paso County had no problem with that.

[Byte Stryke]

I was still on reserve status when I got mine, and I just took them my ID card, and a copy of my range card from my last M9 qualification. El Paso County had no problem with that.

Which I am sure was pretty recent by civilian standards.

As said before though it is a very good idea to at least take a class covering the legal aspects of concealed carry.

[legaleagle]

Quote - As said before though it is a very good idea to at least take a class covering the legal aspects of concealed carry.

I can't agree or emphasis this enough. Having taught classes about the legal side of self defense and the aftermath, both from a civilian perspect and how the investigation is going to go by law enforcement, I would have say this knowledge is more paramount than any hands on firearm training you can do.

Frankly, the best weapon you have at your disposal at all times is your brain. If you cannot use it, the firearm only gets you into trouble, as well as your talking, even if you think you are helping yourself, which you cannot possibly evaluate adequately due to the enormous amount of stress you will be under.

Get proper training.

[Docsully]

All you will need is a DD214 member 4 copy. Member 4 lists your separation code i.e. Honorable and that is why member 4 is required. For active duty folks that do not have their DD214 and active duty ID will be accepted.