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Could I simulate a misfire situation by purposley loading my magazine with an empty cartridge about mid mag requiring a manual ejection?
trlcavscout
04-01-2011, 21:18
Yes if it will feed, or use a snap cap. I throw them in my pistol mags from time to time since my Glock never has failures so I can practice.
jerrymrc
04-01-2011, 21:20
Could I simulate a misfire situation by purposley loading my magazine with an empty cartridge about mid mag requiring a manual ejection?
Yes. I loaded a couple with used primers, no powder. Paint or mark them a bright color so there is never a question. You need a bullet in there BTW. Easy for any reloader to make a few up. If you ever get to the springs I can make some up for ya NC.
Yeah, snap caps all the way. Helps with flinching as well. Load up all your mags with them in various places, then mix your mags up with your eyes closed so you don't know which is which. Or get a friend.
Good idea, I never thought about doing this. Should set up your wife's pistol too to see wht she does. [Rant2]
Yeah, snap caps all the way. Helps with flinching as well. Load up all your mags with them in various places, then mix your mags up with your eyes closed so you don't know which is which. Or get a friend.
I learned it from board member Kwando.
Or, you could just buy all of your ammo sizes in the winchester white box! [ROFL1]
CrufflerSteve
04-02-2011, 00:29
When loading I make a couple of dummy rounds. Snap caps are also good. Azoom ones heft like a round. The best is to let a friend load your mags. I've gone shooting with a friend doing this where there would be between none and two dummies per mag and we'd time ourselves clearing and putting the live rounds on target.
I suppose you get a Jennings or one of the other POS jamamatic brands.
Steve
Byte Stryke
04-02-2011, 00:43
Yeah, snap caps all the way. Helps with flinching as well. Load up all your mags with them in various places, then mix your mags up with your eyes closed so you don't know which is which. Or get a friend.
last time I tried this, the ejector tore the base off of a buddy of mine...
[ROFL1]
Good idea, I never thought about doing this. Should set up your wife's pistol too to see wht she does. [Rant2]
This would be very interesting.....Good way to see if she has learned anything.
So aas long as I have a bullet in a cartridge to ramp, it will load.
any other methods of failed ejections or misfire simulations?
If you load your mag with used casings it will simulate a FTF. Well not really simulate it WILL FTF.[Tooth]
Careful though I could see this causing problems...
Byte Stryke
04-02-2011, 12:13
Snap Caps (http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=snap+caps#q=snap+caps&hl=en&prmd=ivns&source=univ&tbs=shop:1&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=dGWXTeLnOePfiAKVqY2dCQ&ved=0CFoQrQQ&biw=1920&bih=924&fp=33595b162ddf8fea)
Google it
All of the fun of dry-firing/Misfire without the pain of an actual dry-fire or trying to shove an already spent casing into the chamber or something else silly.
I Swear to god Im not making this up, in NC I actually sat on the line next to someone that wanted to do this, they pulled the rounds out of the casing, dumped the powder, reseated the rounds by hand with god-knows-what and ran them in with his regular ammo.
I'll give ya 2 guesses what happened the first time he hit one...
Don't play around folks, get a real snap cap, save your weapon and your life.
safety first.
ChunkyMonkey
04-02-2011, 19:13
I'll give ya 2 guesses what happened the first time he hit one...
The one after that most likely will go kaboommm
CrufflerSteve
04-02-2011, 20:11
The one after that most likely will go kaboommm
I had a squib when I first started reloading. With a 9mm the primer sent the bullet several inches into the barrel. Fortunately. I was paying attention. I use real snap caps or ones I make myself with no primer so I can see that it ain't real. Be careful. I paid much better attention when reloading after that.
Steve
Byte Stryke
04-02-2011, 20:37
I had a squib when I first started reloading. With a 9mm the primer sent the bullet several inches into the barrel. Fortunately. I was paying attention. I use real snap caps or ones I make myself with no primer so I can see that it ain't real. Be careful. I paid much better attention when reloading after that.
Steve
even without a primer you can damage your weapon unless the firing pin/striker has something to impact.
Unless of you are you are replacing the primer with a piece of rubber.
Snap caps are snap caps, not action proving dummies. I have had snap caps jam while testing for function. That won't matter for what is being discussed here but if you are troubleshooting a gun functionally it can make a difference. There are snap caps that are made to be action proving dummies also.
I have some dummies I made to correct dimensions using regular brass and bullets. I use hot glue in the primer pockets now. I also drill holes in the side and use a felt tip pen to mark them. You have to be extremely careful not to mistake a live round for a brass dummy.
Some 22 rim fires should not be dry fired. The firing pin can damage the edge of the chamber. There are snap caps made to protect the gun if you want to dry fire them. An empty used brass will work too if you make sure the firing pin has a fresh place to hit the brass.
Or, you could just buy all of your ammo sizes in the winchester white box! [ROFL1]
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