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Any "off duty" guys want to make some beer money? I need to have disolution of marriage papers served to my wife for Jefferson County Court system. She knows there coming, so NO drama. I'll pay decent for this service. I'm in Conifer, she's in Littleton (I think).
Thanks,
Do you have to be licensed to do it?
As far as I'm aware no, just over 18 and not a party to the case. Not an "off-duty" guy but I'd do it if you want since I'm in the area.
DSB OUTDOORS
04-18-2011, 19:17
If you don't have to be a cop or any thing, I'll do it! I want a break from work. If you do need a officer I can try to get hold of my buddy hes a Jeffco Sherriff. I he awnsers his damn phone!! [Tooth]
Do you have to be licensed to do it?
nope.
years back I served the lowlife ex of the girl I was dating. had to sign for the papers in front of a notary. then went to his work, had the receptionist call him.
when he came out, "hi mr. soandso, here are some papers for you. have a nice day"
I'd help but I'm far away and can't make the drive right now.
Hell, I'll do it for free and am free on Wednesday.
DSB OUTDOORS
04-18-2011, 19:44
I'll do it for free any day you want!! I worked in Collections for 5 years at my work and I love showing up on peoples door steps with a smile on my face just ruin there day!! [Beer]
I'll do it for free any day you want!! I worked in Collections for 5 years at my work and I love showing up on peoples door steps with a smile on my face just ruin there day!! [Beer]
If you enjoy doing that sort of thing you're the wrong person for the job.
DSB OUTDOORS
04-18-2011, 20:11
If you enjoy doing that sort of thing you're the wrong person for the job.
Why is that?
Why is that?
An emotional investment in what you're doing is unprofessional. What would you think of a cop who said "I love to write people tickets just to ruin their day!"
That's why one of the requirements of being a server is that you aren't directly affiliated with the situation.
DSB OUTDOORS
04-18-2011, 21:20
I'll do it for free any day you want!! I worked in Collections for 5 years at my work and I love showing up on peoples door steps with a smile on my face just ruin there day!! [Beer]
Worked. Past tense. I had no emosion, no remorse. I did Not feel sorry for the people that owed me money. They got bent out of shape, not me! Simply said! No emotional attachment!!
An emotional investment in what you're doing is unprofessional. That's why one of the requirements of being a server is that you aren't directly affiliated with the situation.
I'm going to say OMG I'm soooooo sorry for what happend, can I hold your hand?? Do you wan't to cry on my shoulder??
Hello Mr's John Doe would you please sign here?? Have a nice day!! And then I walk away having that warm fuzzy feeling that I could help another CO AR-15 member that got SHIT on and had his heart ripped out of his chest by the one he Loved and Trusted all those years. [Tooth]
And I would do the same for you!! Have a good evening!![Beer]
I am free thursday through the following tuesday if you still need it done by then.
I would get it done asap though!
Worked. Past tense. I had no emosion, no remorse. I did Not feel sorry for the people that owed me money. They got bent out of shape, not me! Simply said! No emotional attachment!!
...And I would do the same for you!!
First of all, they probably did not owe YOU money. A collector is sorta like a telemarketer with an attitude problem. They tend to develop inflated egos and substance abuse problems. It seems to go with the job.
That sort of attitude that works for telephone collections will get you shot if you try applying it to service of process. You are just there to let the people -- and they ARE people -- know that they are being sued, divorced, garnished, whatever, and they have an opportunity to contest it in court should they so wish. That is all you need to do. When you start making it personal by mocking them or demanding that they pay you have crossed a line and you are on your own. Law is on the defendant's side and he can sue your client for big bucks and win. That is why most of the big law firms insist that their servers are bonded and insured.
I've done that work before, and let me tell you that in many cases the defendant doesn't even owe that money. I have seen cases that were past the statute of limitations, I have seen cases of double billing, I have seen cases where the bill was paid in full, I have seen cases of identity theft, and I have seen outright fraud on the part of clients. Then there are the PEOPLE who may well owe money, but they've already set up a payment plan or have had the debt settled in bankruptcy or being handled by an attorney. Or you get the folks who have lost a job, been through a messy divorce, or are dying from cancer. Then you get the ones who CAN'T pay. I have been asked to serve people dying in hospice or nursing homes (I did not), I have been sent to serve mentally incompetent people (I did not), I have been asked to serve homeless junkies with AIDs. Do you think paying some past due bills is anywhere near the top of their priorities?
These are PEOPLE who are having a lot of problems in their life, and the last thing they need is some bottom-feeding scavenger banging on their door and yelling at them, or smirking and calling them names. For some reason Colorado does not require licensing or even a background check for process servers or private investigators, and from what I have seen and heard half the people doing those jobs would probably get fired from McDonald's.
porfiriozg
04-18-2011, 23:03
First of all, they probably did not owe YOU money. A collector is sorta like a telemarketer with an attitude problem. They tend to develop inflated egos and substance abuse problems. It seems to go with the job.
That sort of attitude that works for telephone collections will get you shot if you try applying it to service of process. You are just there to let the people -- and they ARE people -- know that they are being sued, divorced, garnished, whatever, and they have an opportunity to contest it in court should they so wish. That is all you need to do. When you start making it personal by mocking them or demanding that they pay you have crossed a line and you are on your own. Law is on the defendant's side and he can sue your client for big bucks and win. That is why most of the big law firms insist that their servers are bonded and insured.
I've done that work before, and let me tell you that in many cases the defendant doesn't even owe that money. I have seen cases that were past the statute of limitations, I have seen cases of double billing, I have seen cases where the bill was paid in full, I have seen cases of identity theft, and I have seen outright fraud on the part of clients. Then there are the PEOPLE who may well owe money, but they've already set up a payment plan or have had the debt settled in bankruptcy or being handled by an attorney. Or you get the folks who have lost a job, been through a messy divorce, or are dying from cancer. Then you get the ones who CAN'T pay. I have been asked to serve people dying in hospice or nursing homes (I did not), I have been sent to serve mentally incompetent people (I did not), I have been asked to serve homeless junkies with AIDs. Do you think paying some past due bills is anywhere near the top of their priorities?
These are PEOPLE who are having a lot of problems in their life, and the last thing they need is some bottom-feeding scavenger banging on their door and yelling at them, or smirking and calling them names. For some reason Colorado does not require licensing or even a background check for process servers or private investigators, and from what I have seen and heard half the people doing those jobs would probably get fired from McDonald's.
+1 well said
(side note)
I'm glad i finally payed my shit off
First of all, they probably did not owe YOU money. A collector is sorta like a telemarketer with an attitude problem. They tend to develop inflated egos and substance abuse problems. It seems to go with the job.
That sort of attitude that works for telephone collections will get you shot if you try applying it to service of process. You are just there to let the people -- and they ARE people -- know that they are being sued, divorced, garnished, whatever, and they have an opportunity to contest it in court should they so wish. That is all you need to do. When you start making it personal by mocking them or demanding that they pay you have crossed a line and you are on your own. Law is on the defendant's side and he can sue your client for big bucks and win. That is why most of the big law firms insist that their servers are bonded and insured.
I've done that work before, and let me tell you that in many cases the defendant doesn't even owe that money. I have seen cases that were past the statute of limitations, I have seen cases of double billing, I have seen cases where the bill was paid in full, I have seen cases of identity theft, and I have seen outright fraud on the part of clients. Then there are the PEOPLE who may well owe money, but they've already set up a payment plan or have had the debt settled in bankruptcy or being handled by an attorney. Or you get the folks who have lost a job, been through a messy divorce, or are dying from cancer. Then you get the ones who CAN'T pay. I have been asked to serve people dying in hospice or nursing homes (I did not), I have been sent to serve mentally incompetent people (I did not), I have been asked to serve homeless junkies with AIDs. Do you think paying some past due bills is anywhere near the top of their priorities?
These are PEOPLE who are having a lot of problems in their life, and the last thing they need is some bottom-feeding scavenger banging on their door and yelling at them, or smirking and calling them names. For some reason Colorado does not require licensing or even a background check for process servers or private investigators, and from what I have seen and heard half the people doing those jobs would probably get fired from McDonald's.
Exactly. Even if they are terrible people that deserve it, it's not your place to make that judgement.
ldmaster
04-18-2011, 23:40
Clint45 has a few good points, but what you're happy about inside is just fine, as long as you don't let it show.
The only person who can serve and not get a return of service notarized is a deputy sheriff from THAT county.
Notary is no big deal, tons of folks have them.
MANNER of service is quite important, some things need to be handed over, some things can be left with your boss, etc... You have to know what the paperwork entails to know how to serve it.
You also have to be available IN CASE the person who was served says that they weren't served. Happens ALL the time. What ends up happening, since the court cant do the service, is the lawyer for the plaintiff quite literally runs out into the hall and attempts to find some disinterested adult who will do the service. Seen it happen! The court will only serve IT"S OWN paperwork in the court, attorney paperwork is up to them.
It aint hard as long as you know where the person lives or works, and doing it discretely preserves so much of a person's dignity (including your own) because all it means is that a person has to answer some court process, it doesn't mean guilt or innocence - or represent victimhood to any degree.
Any person over 18 years of age who is NOT party to, or related by blood or marriage to any of the two party's can serve the paperwork. The paperwork typically has a form attached to it called:
Return of Service.
Record the date time and address where you served someone, fill in the blanks on the ROS and go to a notary, show them your DL or ID and sign in their presence. Give the ROS to you, or your attorney, and you're done.
Unless you have your service called into question, expect to be subpoena'd if the person jinks. But TYPICALLY the person hires a lawyer and they contact the plaintiff, and they go to court.
patrick0685
04-18-2011, 23:41
id be willin to help
DSB OUTDOORS
04-19-2011, 07:10
First of all, they probably did not owe YOU money. WRONG!!
I've done that work before, and let me tell you that in many cases the defendant doesn't even owe that money. I have seen cases that were past the statute of limitations, I have seen cases of double billing, I have seen cases where the bill was paid in full, I have seen cases of identity theft, and I have seen outright fraud on the part of clients. Then there are the PEOPLE who may well owe money, but they've already set up a payment plan or have had the debt settled in bankruptcy or being handled by an attorney. Or you get the folks who have lost a job, been through a messy divorce, or are dying from cancer. Then you get the ones who CAN'T pay. I have been asked to serve people dying in hospice or nursing homes (I did not), I have been sent to serve mentally incompetent people (I did not), I have been asked to serve homeless junkies with AIDs. Do you think paying some past due bills is anywhere near the top of their priorities?
These are PEOPLE who are having a lot of problems in their life, and the last thing they need is some bottom-feeding scavenger banging on their door and yelling at them, or smirking and calling them names. For some reason Colorado does not require licensing or even a background check for process servers or private investigators, and from what I have seen and heard half the people doing those jobs would probably get fired from McDonald's.
You have some very good points! Don't get me wrong. But when you own your own business like I do!! You know who owes you money, you see whos 30 - 90 days late, you know whos bouncing checks, I hear the same old stories day after day, I know who hes paying in the industry because of credit meatings, and talking to other creditors. I work with people until I can't put up with the lies any more. I watch my bank account very closely and I know when to turn some screws and who to turn them on.
Hell on of my customers that owed me $240,000.00 filed bankruptcy showed up in bankruptcy court in an Armani Suit and had on his $2,000 Rolex watch on and I'm supossed to feel sorry for him?? I Don't Think So!!
You have some very good points! Don't get me wrong. But when you own your own business like I do!! You know who owes you money, you see whos 30 - 90 days late, you know whos bouncing checks, I hear the same old stories day after day, I know who hes paying in the industry because of credit meatings, and talking to other creditors. I work with people until I can't put up with the lies any more. I watch my bank account very closely and I know when to turn some screws and who to turn them on.
Okay. But if this is a debt that is owed to you or your company you are prohibited by law from going to that person's house and serving them legal papers yourself, as you are a party to that action. The reason that is illegal/invalid is because many plantiffs would just say that they served papers which they did not, resulting in a default judgement. Yes, that is felony perjury, but it is difficult to prove. If it is alleged the court typically just reverses the judgement.
DSB OUTDOORS
04-19-2011, 10:47
Okay. But if this is a debt that is owed to you or your company you are prohibited by law from going to that person's house and serving them legal papers yourself, as you are a party to that action. The reason that is illegal/invalid is because many plantiffs would just say that they served papers which they did not, resulting in a default judgement. Yes, that is felony perjury, but it is difficult to prove. If it is alleged the court typically just reverses the judgement.
[ROFL1][ROFL2][ROFL3]Sorry Clint. I see whats happening now. some Mx'r is wanting to Serve Papers to his Wife who is filing for divorce and I offered to do that. Thats all I was getting at. I don't serve papers to my customers unless it's a statement. [Tooth]
You have some very good points! Don't get me wrong. But when you own your own business like I do!! You know who owes you money, you see whos 30 - 90 days late, you know whos bouncing checks, I hear the same old stories day after day, I know who hes paying in the industry because of credit meatings, and talking to other creditors. I work with people until I can't put up with the lies any more. I watch my bank account very closely and I know when to turn some screws and who to turn them on.
Hell on of my customers that owed me $240,000.00 filed bankruptcy showed up in bankruptcy court in an Armani Suit and had on his $2,000 Rolex watch on and I'm supossed to feel sorry for him?? I Don't Think So!!
or how the donald himself has declared corporate bankruptcy.....3 times!
Got it taken care of today by a fellow forum member. Thank all of you who offered. This forum ROCKS..
Lex_Luthor
04-19-2011, 12:59
Not trying to threadjack, but I'm kind of in the same boat, with a small claims case. I have to have my ex-boss served in Greeley. Would someone in the area, willing to do it, maybe shoot me a PM? I could buy you a 12 pack of beer if you'd like...
Not trying to threadjack, but I'm kind of in the same boat, with a small claims case. I have to have my ex-boss served in Greeley. Would someone in the area, willing to do it, maybe shoot me a PM? I could buy you a 12 pack of beer if you'd like...
There seems to be a great need of some local process servers in the area. Not sure if this is do to a lack of them, or for the shittly economy. Seems like someone should start doing this on the side for a small business.
If the member that helped me out doesnt mind, I will glady foward you his info. He's a darn good guy, and gets it done quickly.
ChunkyMonkey
04-19-2011, 14:42
I'll do it for free any day you want!! I worked in Collections for 5 years at my work and I love showing up on peoples door steps with a smile on my face just ruin there day!! [Beer]
wow.. so you judge people all day long and feel good? I eat collection companies for breakfast. Collector/collection companies are the most unethical, unaccurate, and sometimes down right illegal. Most collection debts on credit report is outdated if not accurate. If you have a common name, you should know how collection agencies put collections against a bunch of people w/ the same name and let them sort out the truth later. For smaller debts, many will actually pay just to get rid of the hassle.
I am in the middle of helping a homebuyer w/ a collection agency that have ruined her credit overnight due to her daughter's debt. In short, they slapped a collection notice the moment they know the parents are buying a new home as underwriter will require new collections to be paid off. They have never co-signed or authorized the debt. The collection agency uses the same name (jr and sr) as an excuse of 'error' and have yet removed nor been willing to send us a clarification letter. A bunch of assholes! If the clients lost their earnest money or even chances of purchasing their retirement home - it's court time again! EDIT..oops.. I see others have scolded you too :D
Good luck to you, mxr. Hopefully you can get over the legal stuffs asap and move on.
ChunkyMonkey
04-19-2011, 14:48
Not trying to threadjack, but I'm kind of in the same boat, with a small claims case. I have to have my ex-boss served in Greeley. Would someone in the area, willing to do it, maybe shoot me a PM? I could buy you a 12 pack of beer if you'd like...
Anyone who is not part of the claim can do it for you. I have done it few times mostly for small claim court.
Byte Stryke
04-19-2011, 14:51
I remember when I was in the service and didn't get Paid. (Congress shut shit down)
I Sent GM $50.00 while on Brightstar.
GMAC sent it Back
Collections showed up to repo the truck from the Base.
The Jag officer knew his Business so well he had the Guy crying as he left Base.
I Still want to thank GMAC for the truck!
THANK YOU SHITHEAD COLLECTORS!
Lex_Luthor
04-19-2011, 15:10
If the member that helped me out doesnt mind, I will glady foward you his info. He's a darn good guy, and gets it done quickly.
If he doesn't mind, I'd love to. I'll pay for it too, hopefully it won't cost as much as having Weld County Sheriff do it.
In DSB's defense, he's wasnt a collection agency. He ownes a business that sometimes requires "collection" of debt. As a recently past business owner, i understand what he's refering to. I have knocked on several doors and demanded payment and served them papers on the companies behalf and felt great about doing so. Just did one 3 weeks ago in Boulder County to a Scumbag that owed our company $33,000 and that felt great.
DSB OUTDOORS
04-19-2011, 19:19
In DSB's defense, he's wasnt a collection agency. He ownes a business that sometimes requires "collection" of debt. As a recently past business owner, i understand what he's refering to. I have knocked on several doors and demanded payment and served them papers on the companies behalf and felt great about doing so. Just did one 3 weeks ago in Boulder County to a Scumbag that owed our company $33,000 and that felt great.
^^^^^^ Thanks Brother!!! [Beer]
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