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Batteriesnare
04-29-2011, 18:43
Posted some new shooting videos of transitions and such to YouTube. I'd appreciate any comments or critiques you have. If you're bored, hopefully they're entertaining.
Single Target Transitions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chJpqwe8uRA
Multiple Target Transitions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTm7zQR1lR8
Handgun Drills:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcoJYOZ9GNw
Thanks!
enthusiast
04-29-2011, 20:14
Thanks for posting them. What chest rig/vest are you using?
ChunkyMonkey
04-29-2011, 20:20
... and I got kicked out for putting two on the target under 1 second. [Rant1]
Very nice. I should practice drills more often.
... and I got kicked out for putting two on the target under 1 second. [Rant1]
[rofl]
... and I got kicked out for putting two on the target under 1 second. [Rant1]
You gotta know some people who know some people so you won't get kicked out!!
1) Why do you look at the rifle before transitioning to pistol, other than Costa does it? If the gun doesn't work and bullets are flying back, don't waste time looking. If the target is within handgun range, IMMEDIATELY transition. If the target is outside handgun range your options are: reload immediately, immediate action, remedial action, movement (to cover), or a combination of those. Remedial action is the only one that involves looking at the chamber.
If the rifle doesn't work, for whatever reason and you need to transition....quit wasting time looking and get back into the fight. Are you really going to stop and fix a problem if you see one when your secondary firearm is there & ready?
2) drive the rifle on transitions to multiple targets. You can use your hips a bit as long as you don't end up dancing. You split times between targets should match your controlled pair splits. Use Kyle Lamb's 2x2x2 drill to work on evening out your cadence.
3) you can pick up a bit more time by repositioning your holster a bit up and towards the front of your leg. Drop holsters are designed to get the gun out of the way of armor....your armor panels are up high. Also, the further back you have to reach for you pistol, the longer it takes. Try running with it directly on your side...if flops back and forth and throws off you pace. The further down it is, the more it flops. Get it up and more foward. We usually end up removing the upper strap on the Safariland 6004's to get it up where it needs to be. It's also a pain in the butt to get in/out of a vehicle with the holster lower.
4) know where your mags are. Every time you reload your pistol, you look down. When you take your eyes off the target...it moves somewhere else! Reload in your workspace, looking over the top of the pistol in front of your face, not your waist.
Other than that, nice work. Be cautious of doing movements "just to practice" and inadvertantly building them into your routine subconsciously (ie, look 360 deg). Practice does not make perfect....Perfect practice makes perfect.
uh huh, i see you either went to a magpul training course or watched their videos eh?
looks good!
Batteriesnare
04-29-2011, 20:43
Thanks for posting them. What chest rig/vest are you using?
It is an Eagle Industries plate carrier.
Batteriesnare
04-29-2011, 20:44
Not by me.....[Beer]
... and I got kicked out for putting two on the target under 1 second. [Rant1]
Batteriesnare
04-29-2011, 20:48
A good point. As you noted I incorporated the "Costa" chamber look after hearing him discuss it. At that range a direct transition would be the most appropriate action.
Why do you look at the rifle before transitioning to pistol, other than Costa does it? If the gun doesn't work and bullets are flying back, don't waste time looking. If the target is within handgun range, IMMEDIATELY transition. If the target is outside handgun range your options are: reload immediately, immediate action, remedial action, movement (to cover), or a combination of those. Remedial action is the only one that involves looking at the chamber.
If the rifle doesn't work, for whatever reason and you need to transition....quit wasting time looking and get back into the fight. Are you really going to stop and fix a problem if you see one when your secondary firearm is there & ready?
A good point. As you noted I incorporated the "Costa" chamber look after hearing him discuss it. At that range a direct transition would be the most appropriate action.
costa talks about it being more important in non-transition types of drills, ie, when you only have your primary or are not in range for secondary. in that situation, it makes sense. you want to see what the malfunction is and fix it asap. but hes right that in transitions its not necessary. to be honest, it takes about 0.1 seconds to do it so i don't see it as a big deal. besides, both guys even say that to some degree you just have to do what you are comfortable with. the other guy prefers less wasted time. to each his own.
so its not technically "correct", its not a huge deal if its the motions you have memorized from primary only training previously. but i suppose if you can train yourself to use different mechanisms in different situations, all the better. for me, even when i am not checking the chamber i have a slight movement to that side and then back just because it helps me quickly expel the magazine and get it out of the way. the little "fling" helps me, but thats just me. also, i don't need to think quite as much, the motions just happen. but i am far from well trained.
Other observations noted above...
to be honest, it takes about 0.1 seconds to do it so i don't see it as a big deal. besides, both guys even say that to some degree you just have to do what you are comfortable with. the other guy prefers less wasted time. to each his own.
How far will a bullet travel in .1 sec??? If I shave off .1 sec in 10 different movemts, then I've saved 1 full second and become that much more efficient, and hopefully faster than the other guy.
for me, even when i am not checking the chamber i have a slight movement to that side and then back just because it helps me quickly expel the magazine and get it out of the way. the little "fling" helps me, but thats just me.
Pledge spray works well to make mags fall out a bit easier
After firing last shot from pistol...slow down before compressing to carry position. Nothing wrong with scanning with pistol at the ready. If there was a reason to shoot in the first place, then there is valid reason to keep the pistol at the ready. Bad guys are like grapes...they come in bunches. You can shave time off by treating it multiple targets vice single target, engage, next target, acquire, engage....
Don't take this as nit-picking....just suggesting ways to cut off fractions of a second here, fractions there.
Your like a machine.....thats what she said
But that's crazy fast.
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