Eotech clones on Amazon

[UberTong]

Has anyone tried one of the replica Eotechs? My new and very first AR should be here next weekend and I've been looking long and hard at some optics and have been going back and forth between iron sights, a red dot, an actual scope etc, but all with 'B.O.B.' in mind...ballin on a budget. I really dont wanna spend more than 150-200 and the eotech replicas are $80. Would something like that work for me to start shooting just say up to 100 yards? Do these cheaps replicas 'go out of sight' easier than the real ones after prolonged shooting?

Thanks

[spyder]

Has anyone tried one of the replica Eotechs? My new and very first AR should be here next weekend and I've been looking long and hard at some optics and have been going back and forth between iron sights, a red dot, an actual scope etc, but all with 'B.O.B.' in mind...ballin on a budget. I really dont wanna spend more than 150-200 and the eotech replicas are $80. Would something like that work for me to start shooting just say up to 100 yards? Do these cheaps replicas 'go out of sight' easier than the real ones after prolonged shooting?

Thanks
Your replica can have a lot of problems from the glass coming loose, the laser coming undone, just plain falling apart. Don't expect it to hold zero on a real gun. Save up or sell something to get a real eotech. I have heard of "real" eotech's losing zero, but that was from people that just like to argue for the sake of arguing. My 512 hasn't lost zero since the day I mounted it on my ar with 2500 plus rounds down range. If you are looking for a budget sight that won't lose zero for that price, your best bet will be the burris fast fire. Your local cabela's should have it for around $200. That is a great little sight that you can count on and it won't lose zero on your ar.

[StagLefty]

Budget optics-take a look at these. I have 2 on AR's and have had no problem.Some will disagree on budget optics but some of us have to cut corners somewhere and these are good enough for my use. I have an Eotech 512 on my carbine but I can't keep buying them. Check feedback on Arfcom.


http://primaryarms.com/category.sc?categoryId=419

[Ranger]

This is probably going to be argued, but FOR ME (notice, that is not saying that absolutely everyone) I'm still an iron sight guy because I figure if I can put lead on a target that is so far away I can barely even see the target anymore then when I scope up I'm going to be at least AS accurate but for when that scope does fail I know that I call fall back on the irons and still be accurate.

In the olden days of the Army, scopes were for snipers but the rest of us (with a few exceptions) had better be 100% on those irons and, more importantly, be able to dial those sights in at distance and in adverse conditions. I guess I'm a hard liner.

So, all of that being said, I do have scopes on some of my non-AR's and I'm 100% with Spyder and Stag in that you get what you pay for. If you want to keep zero and plant that lead then save your pennies and get a top of the line scope with a good mount.

I put the cheapos on my pellet rifles that I shoot the crows and racoons in my back yard with :).

[spyder]

If you hurry before someone else buys it, like, me... there is a fast fire for sale on GB right now for $160.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=227812071

[spyder]

Ok, just lettin you know... I bought that one...

[tmckay2]

dont be opposed to budget optics, but make sure its a good one with good reviews. the primary arms one is very, very good and very well respected, even one arfcom which is impressive since most there are "operators". don't let people scare you from budget optics, you just have to be smart about it and do some research. primary arms customer service is amazing so if you do happen to have a problem they will fix it. i have the aimpoint clone and its been great.

[mutt]

I'd probably stay away from EOtech clones. A real Eotech uses a laser to project a hologram on the viewing window. I highly doubt a knockoff is generating any type of holographic image. It's just going to be a standard red dot sight in an EOtech skin. Unless your just going for the look of an EOtech, you're better off just getting a normal red dot sight IMHO.

As for budget optics, there are plenty of good choices. +1 for Primary Arms. Great products, great prices and really fast shipping. I've got their deluxe magnifier, M3 clone and T1 clone. Good stuff that's perfect for the range or plinking. Not as good as my real Aimpoints and Eotech, but it gets the job done for a really fair price.

If your heart is set on a Eotech style sight, rrages has one. They, like Primary Arms, sell firearms rated budget optics. I've dealt with them before as well. I have no knowledge of their eotech clone, but I'd recommend them solely off their customer service. At least they'll stand behind their products.

http://rrages.com/sight/552clone/index.htm

[ray1970]

I looked at an Eotech copy once because I wanted a temporary optic until I could afford the real thing. The thing that bothered me the most about it was the fact that the reticle could be seen from the front of the optic. It didn't look just like the view from the back but it was still a bright red light. On a real Eotech you don't have a bright red light facing the enemy.

[spyder]

honestly, I will say this again. For your $200 budget, get a burris fastfire. They are not knock off's or cheap optics. If you get one of those other knock offs, you are going to run into problems no matter what and then later on down the road, you will have to purchase a "good one". The fastfire is a good one, it is a small micro red dot that you can also mount on the top of scopes so you can have the best of both worlds too. Like the docter sights on the top of trijicons, just, less expensive.

[AirbornePathogen]

Between the two, I'd say get a Primary Arms, my buddy just bought their CompM3 clone for his rifle, and loves it. Not bad for $100 with the mount, shipped. I'd probably have one if I hadn't gotten a screaming deal on an actual Aimpoint...

[leatherneck448]

Im surprised that nobody has mentioned the vortex SPARC. Great little optic (aimpoint micro clone) that they sell for $279.

They also have another aimpoint clone called the strikefire that sells for just under 200 bucks.

Arfcom did a few torture tests on them and they came out on the other side just fine.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=277&t=187104

theres the article on the SPARC.

hope this helps,
Kenny

[UberTong]

Ok, thanks for all the help and suggestions guys, I appreciate it. Another beginner question for you, do I need any special sort of mount or is one recommended for any reason? Or can I just mount something like this: http://primaryarms.com/product.sc?productId=35&categoryId=419 or like the Burris Fast Fire directly to my flat top Stag model 3, like this: http://www.stagarms.com/product_info.php?cPath=13_22&products_id=208

[mutt]

The PA sight already includes the mount you need. I'm not sure if the Burris comes with a proper height mount.

[fitz19d]

Believe fast fire comes packaged with either no mount or the picattiny/weaver mount. If you wanted it for a handgun and a few other things there are bases you can buy.


For things like some of the AK rail mounts and hobo things like my sks rear sight rail, then it comes in at the right height. For a normal AR15 I think you would need to get a riser/base of some kind. (Similiar to what you see a lot of those smaller aimpoints and other primary arms mounted on, raises it about an inch or so above the rail surface.) I'm sure you could find a inexpensive reasonable mount, it doesn't sound like you are doing anything real precise and not like a red dot is made for .5 moa groups. With the fastfire you know the sight itself won't be losing zero.