Navy Allowing Gay Marriage

[Ranger]

Wow. Just....wow. Federal laws be damned apparently.

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/05/09/navy-chaplains-officiate-gay-marriages?test=latestnews

[Lex_Luthor]

[Puke]What really disturbs me is that they'll be training the Chaplains to perform these marriages on federal property if the state it's located in, allows.

[StagLefty]

And my son wonders why I wander around muttering "I'm glad I'm on my way out" [Bang]

[ghettodub]

Doesn't impact me, so I could care less...

[blacklabel]

Marriage shouldn't be a federal matter and I really don't care if two dudes want to get shacked up.

[Ranger]

It may not impact you directly but these kind of federal "work arounds" impact us all. Just like trying to abolish the death penalty through the revocation of the lethal chemicals rather than trying to pass a law - one just needs a signature and the other requires politics (and, by the way, this is really happening, check the news). So let's quietly pass executive orders and policies and hope people don't notice.

Who is to say that Obooboo doesn't say that solid lead is a health hazzard and decide to ban bullets in America without any congressional approval just simply by having a "health czar" declare it so?

Oh, and if two guys want to play house, it's none of my business but if it skirts around federal law then it's wrong. It's not a lifestyle choice that I personally approve of but I agree that it's not a federal matter - that being said, though, currently it IS a federal matter and until that changes....

[Mtn.man]

Makes ya feel are warm and fuzzy...

[KevDen2005]

It may not impact you directly but these kind of federal "work arounds" impact us all. Just like trying to abolish the death penalty through the revocation of the lethal chemicals rather than trying to pass a law - one just needs a signature and the other requires politics (and, by the way, this is really happening, check the news). So let's quietly pass executive orders and policies and hope people don't notice.

Who is to say that Obooboo doesn't say that solid lead is a health hazzard and decide to ban bullets in America without any congressional approval just simply by having a "health czar" declare it so?

Oh, and if two guys want to play house, it's none of my business but if it skirts around federal law then it's wrong. It's not a lifestyle choice that I personally approve of but I agree that it's not a federal matter - that being said, though, currently it IS a federal matter and until that changes....


Personally, it is not a lifestyle choice that I approve of either. That being said, I don't care if two guys want to get married. If they want to do it, then I really don't think it's my business...just my opinion.

[Scanker19]

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[KevDen2005]

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LOL...I really wanted to make a Navy joke when I first read that

[Ranger]

I've been wanting to make a Navy joke ever since I read the article but restrained myself :).

[Byte Stryke]

Sorry but I have more pressing concerns than 2 consenting adults screwing.

Unless one of them is me, I dont care.

Want to get up in arms about something?
Let's address repeat child molesters.

one of them isn't of age to consent... get fired up about this.

[ghettodub]

Sorry but I have more pressing concerns than 2 consenting adults screwing.

Unless one of them is me, I dont care.

Want to get up in arms about something?
Let's address repeat child molesters.

one of them isn't of age to consent... get fired up about this.

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[bowhunter]

I thought the Navy allowed it already [ROFL1]

But yes child molestors are a more serious matter!!!

[Rust_shackleford]

agreed[Flower] We have accepted a bloated government that over rides it's authority. Marriage is a commitment between two adults. It is not two adults and their government, but their God.
We have become spineless slaves to the state.
Homosexuals have always been in the Military and always will be. I would rather have a squared way homo covering me than some lazy dumb ass inter city turd burglar there to fill a quota.

Sorry but I have more pressing concerns than 2 consenting adults screwing.

Unless one of them is me, I dont care.

Want to get up in arms about something?
Let's address repeat child molesters.

one of them isn't of age to consent... get fired up about this.

[Pancho Villa]

And before someone pipes up about "homosexuals can't cut it in the military" or they decrease unit effectiveness or whatever nonsense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_band_of_thebes


Plutarch records that the Sacred Band was made up of male couples, the rationale being that lovers could fight more fiercely and cohesively than strangers with no ardent bonds. According to Plutarch's Life of Pelopidas,[3] the inspiration for the Band's formation came from Plato's Symposium, wherein the character Phaedrus remarks,


And if there were only some way of contriving that a state or an army should be made up of lovers and their beloved, they would be the very best governors of their own city, abstaining from all dishonour, and emulating one another in honour; and when fighting at each other's side, although a mere handful, they would overcome the world. For what lover would not choose rather to be seen by all mankind than by his beloved, either when abandoning his post or throwing away his arms? He would be ready to die a thousand deaths rather than endure this. Or who would desert his beloved or fail him in the hour of danger?


After the Theban general Pelopidas recaptured the acropolis of Thebes in 379 BC, he assumed command of the Sacred Band, in which he fought alongside his good friend Epaminondas. It was Pelopidas who formed these couples into a distinct unit: he "never separated or scattered them, but would stand [them with himself] in the brunt of battle, using them as one body."[6] They became, in effect, the "special forces" of Greek soldiery,[7] and the forty years of their known existence (378–338 BC) marked the pre-eminence of Thebes as a military and political power in late-classical Greece.

The Sacred Band under Pelopidas fought the Spartans[8] at Tegyra in 375 BC, routing an army that was at least three times its size, though they retreated before the Spartans reformed. It was also responsible for the victory at Leuctra in 371 BC, called by Pausanias the most decisive battle ever fought by Greeks against Greeks. Leuctra established Theban independence from Spartan rule and laid the groundwork for the expansion of Theban power, but possibly also for Philip II's eventual victory.


Defeat came at the Battle of Chaeronea (338 BC), the decisive contest in which Philip II of Macedon, with his son Alexander, extinguished Theban hegemony. The traditional hoplite infantry was no match for the novel long-speared Macedonian phalanx: the Theban army and its allies broke and fled, but the Sacred Band, although surrounded and overwhelmed, refused to surrender. James G. DeVoto says in The Theban Sacred Band[9] that Alexander had deployed his cavalry behind the Macedonian hoplites, apparently permitting "a Theban break-through in order to effect a cavalry assault while his hoplites regrouped." The Thebans of the Sacred Band held their ground and nearly all 300 fell where they stood beside their last commander, Theagenes. Plutarch records that Philip II, on encountering the corpses "heaped one upon another", understanding who they were, exclaimed,


Perish any man who suspects that these men either did or suffered anything unseemly.

Now, if it were up to me, I'd form up a Sacred Band style combat unit and send it to Afghanistan, both because it would probably be very effective and because it would offend the backwards people, both there and here.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Now, if it were up to me, I'd form up a Sacred Band style combat unit and send it to Afghanistan, both because it would probably be very effective and because it would offend the backwards people, both there and here.

Actually, as backward as the Afghan when it comes to traditional marriage etc, molesting boys is their norm. They just don't see it as gay. Sick culture!

[Pancho Villa]

Actually, as backward as the Afghan, molesting boys is their norm. They just don't see it as gay. Sick culture!

I think its still homosexual if its two consenting adults, which I think is implied by the whole combat unit thing.

And yes, sick culture. There are scandals out there of US companies sponsoring those "boy parties" to attract afghans into the police force there, so that's great too.

Edit: also, the two best looking Sacred band soldiers get to make out in front of a mosque every day at morning prayer call. Suck it!

[Ranger]

Sorry but I have more pressing concerns than 2 consenting adults screwing.

Unless one of them is me, I dont care.

Hey I could care less either. Who sticks what in who is none of my concern, nor is who gets married to whom. The whole gays in the military has been beat to death on this forum, this is just a slap in the face about how policymakers will force their platform on the American public through the sneakiest ways possible.

I sort of doubt that anybody on this board is FOR child molesters or repeat child molesters. Of course, with the administration's sneaky game with lethal injection drugs, we may not be able to kill those bastards either - then will you be upset?

[Pancho Villa]

Hey I could care less either. Who sticks what in who is none of my concern, nor is who gets married to whom. The whole gays in the military has been beat to death on this forum, this is just a slap in the face about how policymakers will force their platform on the American public through the sneakiest ways possible.

I sort of doubt that anybody on this board is FOR child molesters or repeat child molesters. Of course, with the administration's sneaky game with lethal injection drugs, we may not be able to kill those bastards either - then will you be upset?

Personally, I am anti-death penalty, not in principle (I have no problems killing a man who is attacking you, or theoretically killing a murderer) but because I don't trust the government to get my mail to me, let alone successfully determine who committed a murder. Stuff like the innocence project and other legal funds who are proving convicted men on death row innocent all the time make me think a serious, large-scale reform of our legal system is necessary before I would be comfortable endorsing any non-reversable punishment.

I guess that's another thread, though.

[Ed_S]

Simple solution for child molesters is just put them in general prison population and let it be known what they done.

Believe me they won't last long and it won't be painless.

[Ranger]

Personally, I am anti-death penalty, not in principle

This is where my religious beliefs and my personal values collide. I'm pro death penalty and anti abortion. Guess that would make me bad Catholic / good Catholic (and I am a fairly devout Catholic) [Flower].

[spyder]

Actually, as backward as the Afghan when it comes to traditional marriage etc, molesting boys is their norm. They just don't see it as gay. Sick culture!
Old mexico is almost close to that. First sexual encounters us usually with other guys... Now I never heard anything about molesting kids like in afgan, but still, homosexual stuff is just normal in some places. In afgan it is also kinda the norm to screw you sheep too isn't it?

Simple solution for child molesters is just put them in general prison population and let it be known what they done.

Believe me they won't last long and it won't be painless.
Child molesters need their twig and berries cut off, plain and simple.

This is where my religious beliefs and my personal values collide. I'm pro death penalty and anti abortion. Guess that would make me bad Catholic / good Catholic (and I am a fairly devout Catholic) [Flower].
I am all for the death penalty. What I don't agree with it is how much money it costs to kill someone found guilty of a gruesome crime. 23 cents and the energy it takes to hold up the gun should be it.

As far as the gay marriage shit goes... who cares? Who does it hurt again? I am not saying I like it, but, why take the energy to worry about it? Als to say that it is a lifestyle choice, like, they choose to find the same sex attractive is also ignorant. That is like saying that any one of us who love women and everything about them are able to just change our minds and decide to go get it on with other guys. Can you do that? I sure as hell can't.

[Elhuero]

I'm in favor of the death penalty only for murderers. if you took someone's life unjustly, you should forfeit yours.

if an adult molests a child, they should be subject to justice, but having to give up their life when none was taken is, to me, not right.

"but their life was taken away, they'll be scarred forever, trauma, hurt... yadda yadda" if the kid's still breathin' then the perpetrator does not deserve death.

I also think that as long as abortion is legal, the govt should not be able to charge someone that kills a pregnant woman with two murders.

now as far as gay marriage, who cares. just don't label me a homophobe because I don't agree with your lifestyle.

[StagLefty]

In afgan it is also kinda the norm to screw you sheep too isn't it?


That's Wyoming "WHERE MEN ARE MEN AND THE SHEEP ARE AFRAID" [ROFL1]

[sneakerd]

That is tooo funny.[LOL]

[spyder]

That's Wyoming "WHERE MEN ARE MEN AND THE SHEEP ARE AFRAID" [ROFL1]
That should be a bumpersticker!

[BushMasterBoy]

I always thought the the Navy was gay anyway...

[StagLefty]

I always thought the the Navy was gay anyway...

Be sure to share that thought with Team 6 [ROFL1]

[Byte Stryke]

now as far as gay marriage, who cares. just don't label me a homophobe because I don't agree with your lifestyle.


This, I Dont care what they do... but don't expect me to celebrate it.