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my art was turned down again by another liberal art f*g . So i have been painting for a long time (art not houses ) and unless its some street art event (yuck) or some punk rocker type place (also yuck)I cant seem to find a place to show my work .I did well in baltimore and in albuquerque but denver is killing me with the liberal crap ! So what if my work is militant , I happen to be a bit militant ,What the f*ck !! I thought art was an expression of ones self .Yep Im a bit miffed [Rant1]
sorry rant over , thanks
palepainter
05-13-2011, 08:25
my art was turned down again by another liberal art f*g . So i have been painting for a long time (art not houses ) and unless its some street art event (yuck) or some punk rocker type place (also yuck)I cant seem to find a place to show my work .I did well in baltimore and in albuquerque but denver is killing me with the liberal crap ! So what if my work is militant , I happen to be a bit militant ,What the f*ck !! I thought art was an expression of ones self .Yep Im a bit miffed [Rant1]
sorry rant over , thanks
I feel your pain bro. I have the same problem with my fine art. I have been to a few local art walks, but generally find my self separated from the "normal and cliche" cowboy and wildlife art. I have been labeled Low Brow and a bit militant too. Which I do not mind. We should start our own show. HAHAHA.
Zombie Steve
05-13-2011, 08:32
If you're willing to come to the Springs, a friend has an art gallery here (Modbo). If he'll let me and a friend teach a class on emergency medicine, he'll put your stuff on the wall. [Tooth]
PM me if you want to get in touch with him.
By the way - isn't that how liberals always are? The side of tolerance and diversity as long as you aren't any different than them.
Sometimes hard times like this can really help clarify for us why we are doing what we are doing. And eventually we have to decide, am I really doing this because I love it and am expressing myself in a way that I have to, or am I doing it to try to make a buck? Neither one is necessarily better than the other, but they are significantly different! If people don't love what you do, and won't pay for it, then if you are doing it to make a buck, you gotta' stop. If you are doing it because you love it, and have to do it whether you make a buck or not, then you gotta' keep on keeping on!
bobbyfairbanks
05-13-2011, 08:46
By the way - isn't that how liberals always are? The side of tolerance and diversity as long as you aren't any different than them.
Truer statement has never been spoken
my art was turned down again by another liberal art f*g . So i have been painting for a long time (art not houses ) and unless its some street art event (yuck) or some punk rocker type place (also yuck)I cant seem to find a place to show my work .I did well in baltimore and in albuquerque but denver is killing me with the liberal crap ! So what if my work is militant , I happen to be a bit militant ,What the f*ck !! I thought art was an expression of ones self .Yep Im a bit miffed [Rant1]
sorry rant over , thanks
I'd like to see your work. Do you have any images online?
Regards,
Storm
palepainter
05-13-2011, 09:09
Here is an example of my "unacceptable" fine art. :)
http://images.goemerchant.net/StoreData/r/rollingchrome/Images/P10_700126_1.jpg
By the way - isn't that how liberals always are? The side of tolerance and diversity as long as you aren't any different than them.
Whereas the op is a poster-child for tolerance: anyone who doesn't like his art is a "liberal art f*g" and being forced to exhibit his work at street art festivals or punk rock type places is an affront to his dignity.
Hey, maybe they just don't like your work because they don't like your work. Get over it and move on. And post some pics. I'll show you mine if you show me yours :D
No one can help you with their contacts unless you post your work.
http://i.imgur.com/4B9sr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ptb5i.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Yd9YF.jpg
dang it , i forgot to rotate the last one
maybe a collected works show is in order
Here is an example of my "unacceptable" fine art. :)
http://images.goemerchant.net/StoreData/r/rollingchrome/Images/P10_700126_1.jpg
i like the evil clowns , nice!![Tooth]
The clown one is too close to something a Juggalo would own for my tastes. Well done though.
The clown one is too close to something a Juggalo would own for my tastes. Well done though.
yeah not a fan of the juggalo's as a group but i have found a few that are good kids . i dont understand the appeal . but as far as palepainter's work goes , i see more of a heavy metal kinda thing . it seems like it would be a good album cover .
If you're willing to come to the Springs, a friend has an art gallery here (Modbo). If he'll let me and a friend teach a class on emergency medicine, he'll put your stuff on the wall. [Tooth]
I would be interested in a class like this
H.
Whereas the op is a poster-child for tolerance: anyone who doesn't like his art is a "liberal art f*g" and being forced to exhibit his work at street art festivals or punk rock type places is an affront to his dignity.
Hey, maybe they just don't like your work because they don't like your work. Get over it and move on. And post some pics. I'll show you mine if you show me yours :D
This. I like the art from both these guys, but that's my style. I can see it not being someone elses style.
So the question is, should we force the damn liberal art gallery owners to show your work? Because you're being persecuted for your beliefs, right? It's what the liberals would do, cry about it until they pass a law to display all the art.
I mean, did they say, "We're too liberal, and your scary uber conservative art with it's guns and dark colors scares us!" -- then OK you've got some justification to whine about libtards. Otherwise, maybe they just didn't want to show it? It's a pretty subjective area.
H.
Nice work guys! It's a good thing I have no talent or imagination, my soul is a very dark place these days. But good luck to you both, from what I've seen in this world there should certainly be a market for your art. People have been selling stuff like that for years. Art is something I've never really understood. There's some huge paintings in the lobby of my office building that I have no idea what the pictures are supposed to be, but I'm sure the artist made many thousands of $$$ from them.
ghettodub
05-13-2011, 10:39
Not sure it's just them being "liberals;" that's kinda the art world, mate. I've been doing art for a long time with very few pieces ever shown. Good luck, you have some good looking work. Where around town have you submitted your stuff?
palepainter
05-13-2011, 11:16
yeah not a fan of the juggalo's as a group but i have found a few that are good kids . i dont understand the appeal . but as far as palepainter's work goes , i see more of a heavy metal kinda thing . it seems like it would be a good album cover .
Good call. I do alot of album art. I have done some for Megadeth in the past.
http://image.lyricspond.com/image/m/artist-megadeth/album-the-system-has-failed/cd-cover.jpg
OneGuy67
05-13-2011, 11:42
Both guys are extremely talented! While not my taste per se, I can recognize how talented they are as artists!
Alex, you should bring some of the art to the gun show if you get another table. Put it on the wall behind you.
Alex I really like your art as well. I don't know if my friend would host it at her gallery though.
Good call. I do alot of album art. I have done some for Megadeth in the past.
I was going to say, your first piece looked like an Iron Maiden cover :D
Not my style, but I appreciate your talent. That clown has poor trigger discipline though, maybe that's the problem ;)
Alxone, I really like your work, especially the first one. The symbol detracts from it a little for me, but this liberal art f*g would buy it.
Both guys are extremely talented! While not my taste per se, I can recognize how talented they are as artists!
Alex, you should bring some of the art to the gun show if you get another table. Put it on the wall behind you.
That's what I was going to say. The gun show would be a great place for this kind of stuff.
And I love all the paintings in this thread. Too bad I have no money or I'd have some new scary decor for my wall.
Rust_shackleford
05-13-2011, 13:27
Looks like prison art, if the market doesn't want it, change or move on. Capitalism.
Looks like prison art
not quite sure how to take that , but i think its funny [ROFL1]
Knowing a couple of gallery owners, I doubt they give a rats ass the artists politics. They with bring in what they think the client will buy.
I always thought half of being an artist was rejection.
Alxone's work made me think of some of the murals at DIA.
Palepainter's was Iron Maiden.
I like dark art but neither is really my taste. Interesting work, though.
Alxone's work made me think of some of the murals at DIA.
This. I bet he's a Stone Mason too.
This. I bet he's a Stone Mason too.
nope , rigger
Alxone's work made me think of some of the murals at DIA.
never been in side (dont fly)
Zombie Steve
05-13-2011, 13:50
I would be interested in a class like this
H.
My buddy that I help teach this class will be out of the country most of the summer. I just called him... if we put something together, it will be in the next couple of weeks. I'll let everyone know if we can swing it. Where it happens will depend on how many folks we can get. I'll start a different thread when I hear back.
http://www.w9aco.net/denver-international-mural_650.jpg
http://cdn.adventofdeception.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/burning_city.jpg
DIA Murals (http://www.google.com/search?q=dia+murals&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=884&bih=373)
http://www.alopecianmuse.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/murals03.jpg
Edit: Irving has faster fingers.
I've always wondered WTF was the deal with that artwork at DIA. Talk about something that's out of place.....
Rust_shackleford
05-13-2011, 14:00
nope , rigger
Rigger oh sh#t
damn those are in the airport !! i do like them but i guess they were not trying to relax anybody before the flight .
Rigger oh sh#t
what are you trying to say ?? hope your not trying to bad mouth the trade
CMP_5.56
05-13-2011, 14:22
I grew up punk rocker, was never liberal, absolutely have had my art shown. Don't see what is wrong with the "punk rock" places. Most the subculture kids I know get huge shows because they will make it happen on their own. There are small shows all over town that are dedicated to one artist alone. Not any big names, just people that want their work shown bad enough to make it happen. Those punk rock places are all about DIY, and as such a lot of unknowns get pretty big shows because they work it hard and self promote. My two cents.
CMP_5.56
05-13-2011, 14:23
I do like both of you guys work, thought I would post that separately from my mini rant.
nope , rigger
Duffy? Precision?
CrufflerSteve
05-13-2011, 14:42
I do like alxone and palepainter's work. I'm glad palepainter's done some album covers. alxone's style could work there or on show poster/t-shirts. I used to wonder about all those cool posters for shows at local venues and you could never buy them. I stole a bunch but if they were posting them everywhere with no way to buy -why not.
The last few shows I've been at there have been less posters out in the open and they've had them for sale at the merch booth. Someone must have figured it out. That might be a way to get your art out there. Originals are expensive but prints can make money and be affordable.
Personally, I really like Joe Petagno, the guy who used to do the designs for Motorhead. I have his designs on a bunch of tees.
Steve
BlasterBob
05-13-2011, 15:43
alxone, I too believe that the displaying at least one for sale at the gun show idea is good. You'll just have to pay an additional $5 to get a wall table where hanging it will not take up any of your table room. And the gun shows do have all types of people attending them and normally damn few liberals. Last year I had a table at a gun show and the table holder next to me had a painting, don't remember the subject of the painting but he got a LOT of interest in it however, he was just charging what I thought was a LOT of money for it and it was in rather beat up condition. You can get some good exposure at a larger show. Remember, Ya can't sell em if you don't show em.
Lex_Luthor
05-13-2011, 16:16
Why not try hanging up one or more paintings at your table (like Bob said, on the wall behind your table) and do an AUCTION for them? If you don't know what one of your paintings will generate as far as cash goes, you might undersell your work! Set a time that you'll be ending the auction, and have a little slip printed out that has lines for name, phone number and bidding price. Then call the highest bidder. You might value your painting at $100 and someone else might pay $500. You never know!
Alxone, not getting personal, but why did you leave Bawlmer? They have this pretty open art fest about four hours north called Noo Yahk. In the seven years I've been here, Denver has not struck me as much of an artsy place. Outdoorsy yes, artsy no. Not trying to insult anyone here but the local music, theater, and visual arts venues are a bit weak in my opinion.
I could be wrong.
Have you tried a virtual gallery where you could get greater exposure for your work and have people buy or commission pieces on-line?
CrufflerSteve
05-13-2011, 19:32
cstone is right. We are a cultural wasteland. After poor sales for their last appearance here Motorhead have skipped Denver on their last two tours for better places like Calgary!
Dark doesn't make it in John Denverland. You could have a second name and do happy unicorn pictures at all the summer art fests.
Steve
Not trying to insult anyone here but the local music, theater, and visual arts venues are a bit weak in my opinion.
I could be wrong.
Ever pick up a copy of Westword?
Ever pick up a copy of Westword?
Compared to LA, NYC, Philly, Boston, Seattle, DC, SF, etc... Denver is just not an artsy town. The DAM has an odd collection. The Kirkland has been the nicest surprise I've found. Dazzle has an occasional interesting artist. Some front range bands have been interesting like the Flobots and 3oh 3 have gotten some attention, but Denver just seems to be happy with it's well deserved reputation for healthy, outdoor activities. Bike, hike, ski, sports, etc... Denver is the place.
Westword is kind of a funny bit not even half worth a decent City Paper in some of the towns I mentioned above.
Again, these are my opinions. Worth nothing to anyone but me. I like Denver despite the apparent lack of strong arts community. [Beer]
Ever done the SantaFe Art Walk?
Ever done the SantaFe Art Walk?
Yes, it was OK. IMO, the walk is better in Santa Fe, NM. I did enjoy the street art festival in Denver last fall. Some very nice pieces.
This thread has gotten off topic. I apologize. It seems to me the best way to sell your art is to get it in front of the largest audience who are likely to appreciate that art. If Denver isn't that place, then finding that place becomes important. Without moving, the Internet can be a great vehicle for getting your art out there to a wider audience. Just my opinion and worth what you paid for it. [Flower]
I really shouldn't be defending Denver's artsieness anyway. I don't care much about the art or music scene and don't want any more crusty hippies anyway. The Santa Fe Art Walk is way too crowded anyway.
agent-smith
05-13-2011, 23:42
I don't care much about the art or music scene and don't want any more crusty hippies anyway.
I'm with you; one thing I like most about Denver is its limited "art scene".
rigger -freelance (mostly gov,uso,ect)
been thinking about art at the gun show , i might give it a try or maybe even get another table at one just for art stuffs . maybe some of the other artist on coar15 would like to pitch in a little .
Pancho Villa
05-15-2011, 13:37
If your stuff is up to snuff, talk to Linda Cordair.
http://www.cordair.com/
Best art in the world, there.
damn those are in the airport !! i do like them but i guess they were not trying to relax anybody before the flight .
My understanding is that there used to be four...basically they symbolized the end of the world and the subsequent rebirth. A couple of them got painted over though, so now we're just left with the freaky ones that don't make sense.
I'm damn glad Denver isn't more like the towns you have listed. All of them are even worse on 2nd amend. than Denver. IMHO artists and libs go hand in hand. Last thing this state needs is another million libs that hate guns but love anything goes for contemporary art. I did over 20 credits of art history getting my BS- can honestly say I was THE ONLY conservative in my classes. Also was the only one without a piercing, a tat, or patouli for deodorant.
Agreed, although I don't believe there is a scientific explanation for why so many artists lean so far left. They just do.
I also wouldn't want Denver to turn into any of those cities. Variety is good. Choose where you want to live and visit where you want to visit. Its all good. [Beer]
ldmaster
05-15-2011, 22:11
definitely a different ballgame.
I first got that it was different when i was working a detail down there undercover, sitting in a restaurant it was COMMON for groups of people to come in from lunch and openly pray before eating. Nobody turned a second glance.
Liberalism is a thing you'll find in nearly every large metropolitan city, it is, after all, where the government workers congregate - and they're mostly liberal. When I first moved here Denver was the 2nd highest area for federal employment, right behind Wash DC.
You might also try the art festival that dot the mountain summerscape, contact the chamber of commerce for the mountain counties, they'll have a listing of civic events with potential.
Glock Shooter
05-16-2011, 07:18
My wife wanted me to share this with you from one artist to another.....DON'T GIVE THE PRICK THE SATISFACTION!!!
She had a few thoughts on locations for you as the joy of creation should never be stifled. She suggested contacting all the ranges in the area about painting a mural for them. In addition, like we see at most outdoor musical events, there is usually a painter there painting live to some music. She has also had some success using Cafe Press as you can really express yourself in ways that might bring in a few coins every now and then.
Good luck
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