View Full Version : Anyone painted with krylon?
stevelkinevil
05-14-2011, 00:20
Im not sure this is the correct forum for this but wasn't sure which one would be. Has anyone painted their rifle with krylon? can this stuff really hold up to the barrel heat? Is it reasonably durable? here is what it looks like now and here is (photoshopped) what I was planning to paint it.
Yes you will be fine. You also mention if it will hold up to barrel heat, but in your second photo you dont have the barrel painted. It will hold up anyway
I am gonna paint one of my AR's with Krylon FDE. The whole thing, everything outside that is. Gonna be my beater gun
You could easily spend the little extra money on duracoat which is basically just paint also, but a little better. If however you did want to just purchase paint from Wallyworld or something, use engine enamel. The only bad thing about over the counter paints, is that they can, and most likely will chip or flake.
Yes, any spray can will chip but like any paint job whether it be spray paint, professional automotive paint or even latex house paint for that matter, its all in the prep.
A properly cleaned and prepped surface will hold your finish much better and longer
leatherneck448
05-14-2011, 00:57
ive come to find that krylon finishes will last a while, but eventually will start to flake off. nice short term project, but not something that will last for years.
stevelkinevil
05-14-2011, 00:58
I wont be painting the barrel but being a bullpup the grip and forearm are taking alot more barrel heat than a conventional layout.
As far as Duracoat I would definitely prefer that but I don't have a paint gun and from what I have found it doesn't come in a spray can.
How would you guys recommend I prep the polymer?
leatherneck448
05-14-2011, 01:04
I generally prep polymer the same as I do steel.
Get a clean rag and thoroughly wipe it down with degreaser2-3 times, let it dry, and shoot.
you'll tell right away if you didnt clean good enough because the paint will fisheye.
That's one good thing about krylon though, is if you see any immediate imperfections, you can always wipe it off and start over.
Yes, any spray can will chip but like any paint job whether it be spray paint, professional automotive paint or even latex house paint for that matter, its all in the prep.
A properly cleaned and prepped surface will hold your finish much better and longer
Still in the end, it will chip and flake. It is ok for a quick fix, but if you plan on having the gun a while, you owe it to yourself to use at least duracoat or brownells gunkote especially on plastic parts that will bend and flex.
I wont be painting the barrel but being a bullpup the grip and forearm are taking alot more barrel heat than a conventional layout.
As far as Duracoat I would definitely prefer that but I don't have a paint gun and from what I have found it doesn't come in a spray can.
How would you guys recommend I prep the polymer?
For a one time use, you can get a cheap airbrush that will work fine. They have prefilled canisters you can hook up to them also for small jobs, shouldn't run you more than 25 bucks for the whole set up. Granted, it is gona cost more than spray paint but the moment your krylon paint cracks or chips, you will wish you spent the extra money.
krylon works ok! i just bought some duracoat and when i get back home next wed the prep work begins i will be posting picks once its done all i have read is prep prep prep and more prep and you will be fine! usually clean off the surface with something to get the oils off and than rough it up with something so the paint has something to grab onto!
gcrookston
05-14-2011, 06:11
I like Krylon.... and the Brownell's camo paint. Get a little scratch on it, or feeling a little bit holiday festive, rattle the can and give it another zap...
I've also used Duracoat on several guns. I prefer paint. If you don't shoot it right the first time, just paint over it...
Krylon/Brownell's
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj19/gcrookston/DSC00197.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj19/gcrookston/DSC00185.jpg
krylon tends to be a bit weak , watery and a bit runny . id suggest rusto or duracoat if your gonna use spray paint .but at the same time i dont ever think ill ever understand the painting of rifles . burlap dose the same thing and does not devalue the firearm .
gcrookston
05-14-2011, 09:14
i dont ever think ill ever understand the painting of rifles...
I painted the two I posted above to conceal damage incurred in a couple of "OH DOLPH!" incidents. The bolt gun fell off a tailgate and landed hard in sharp gravel. The AR with the bushmaster upper took a long, not too gingerly, slide down a skree field while hunting ferrell dogs in Tennessee.
I agree, painting a gun (or generally refinishing one on any level), should be avoided and it greatly reduces the monetary value (i.e. "but I paid $500 to have it refinished" -- "but you deteriorated the value $1,000 by doing so, too bad it was only worth $400 to start with")...
But, if you wince every time you look at that 5" long deep scratch, that patch of rusted pitting, or that gun that wandered 100 yards down to the rocky stream below, then maybe painting might be a cheap and reasonable option...
I painted the two I posted above to conceal damage incurred in a couple of "OH DOLPH!" incidents. The bolt gun fell off a tailgate and landed hard in sharp gravel. The AR with the bushmaster upper took a long, not too gingerly, slide down a skree field while hunting ferrell dogs in Tennessee.
I agree, painting a gun (or generally refinishing one on any level), should be avoided and it greatly reduces the monetary value (i.e. "but I paid $500 to have it refinished" -- "but you deteriorated the value $1,000 by doing so, too bad it was only worth $400 to start with")...
But, if you wince every time you look at that 5" long deep scratch, that patch of rusted pitting, or that gun that wandered 100 yards down to the rocky stream below, then maybe painting might be a cheap and reasonable option...
i completely understand , id do the same in that situation . but i does break the heart to see an undamaged rifle attacked by spray paint .
Scanker19
05-14-2011, 09:29
I painted a dummy grenade pastel pink, lavender, and blue for my daughter to play with and still retain her cute girly demeanor.
stevelkinevil
05-14-2011, 09:32
I painted the two I posted above to conceal damage incurred in a couple of "OH DOLPH!" incidents. The bolt gun fell off a tailgate and landed hard in sharp gravel. The AR with the bushmaster upper took a long, not too gingerly, slide down a skree field while hunting ferrell dogs in Tennessee.
I agree, painting a gun (or generally refinishing one on any level), should be avoided and it greatly reduces the monetary value (i.e. "but I paid $500 to have it refinished" -- "but you deteriorated the value $1,000 by doing so, too bad it was only worth $400 to start with")...
But, if you wince every time you look at that 5" long deep scratch, that patch of rusted pitting, or that gun that wandered 100 yards down to the rocky stream below, then maybe painting might be a cheap and reasonable option...
Jebus man, you are tough on your firearms!
There is no big scratches, I just really dig 2 tone black and OD, have had it done to a few pistols over the years, but I paid someone to do it which goes against my nature. I think I may try the duracoat as I plan to keep this gun (yes I am aware of many peoples feeling about bullpups especially "cheap" ones but I love the thing). Guess maybe next weekend Ill wander over to harbor fright and see how cheap I can grab a spray gun for.
what type of de-greaser are you guys using? I would think engine de-greaser would be bad on polymer, no?
I painted a dummy grenade pastel pink, lavender, and blue for my daughter to play with and still retain her cute girly demeanor.
now thats funny and cool
rockhound
05-14-2011, 10:00
if you are painting just the plastic parts, krylon makes paint just for plastic. might last longer on those parts.
gcrookston
05-14-2011, 10:22
Jebus man, you are tough on your firearms!
what type of de-greaser are you guys using? I would think engine de-greaser would be bad on polymer, no?
For plastic you may want to look to Brownell's. That stuff is great! For degreaser on the plastic, use rubbing alcohol or windex. Even dishwasher detergent will work (the latter I used on a handgun I did in duracoat, which is pretty finicky about having a superclean, dry surface).
I used some krylon ultra flat "camo tan" on my shotgun's furniture. I didn't need it to be pretty and if it starts to flake after a while I'll just throw another coat on. No big deal and it cost less than $5 for a mostly functional paint job.
Just do really light coats and let one completely dry before you apply another one. Don't rush it. Same logic for using all spraypaint outside of underpasses and walls downtown.
I didn't need it to be pretty and if it starts to flake after a while I'll just throw another coat on.
+1 on this. Not all firearms are collectors pieces. Some are simply tools. The rattle can jobs are cheap, easily done, easy to touch up when they do get scratched or start flaking, and easily removed if you change your mind. Once you get it painted if you decide you no longer like it you can usually take some lacquer thinner or acetone and take all the paint back off. Might take a little time and some scrubbing with a toothbrush but it will usually come back off.
Beprepared
05-14-2011, 11:43
krylon tends to be a bit weak , watery and a bit runny . id suggest rusto or duracoat if your gonna use spray paint .but at the same time i dont ever think ill ever understand the painting of rifles . burlap dose the same thing and does not devalue the firearm .
http://www.libertycoatings.com/index.php/Static/cerakote-stealth.html
Check out this Cerakote finish.
http://www.libertycoatings.com/index.php/Static/cerakote-stealth.html
Check out this Cerakote finish.
checked that out , frickin cool as hell but thats not krylon
jerrymrc
05-14-2011, 14:41
The base of black is Duplicolor 1200 that I like allot. the finish is krylon and testors paint. Still looks good after 5 years and it is easy to touch up. This is my only camo gun. I got bored one day and this is the result.
http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac44/jerrymrc/toys/nextold-pics464.jpg
Beprepared
05-14-2011, 15:40
checked that out , frickin cool as hell but thats not krylon
True enough! No doubt in the expensive finish category, not Krylon. Just pointing out a reason why one might "paint" a firearm. Yes, burlap probably work much better as camouflage, but has less "value" in regards to self expression. We're men (I think) and we still like to look cool while we hunt.[LOL]
Check out this Cerakote finish.
Cerakote... I think that is in another catagory all together! [Tooth] I mean if the guy could, cerakote would be the hands down winner, but the prep and oven time kinda take it out of the arguement. I have seen really nice paint jobs done with spray paint and duracoat alike. It still comes down to price I believe as the main difference along with how much you care about flaking and chipping.
lead_magnet
05-14-2011, 23:22
i completely understand , id do the same in that situation . but i does break the heart to see an undamaged rifle attacked by spray paint .
I'm on the other side of the fence on this one. A rifle like an AR or AK variant, i.e. fighting rifles are a weapon. If it makes it more lethal or practical, go for it. I'd rather my weapon not be seen at all than to look cool. Of course this only comes into play if you plan on crawling around in the weeds when your putting your weapon to use. Doesn't really make much sence for a home defence gun, unless you paint it to match your drapes. Just a thought.
But back to Krylon. I personally hate that crap. Chips and scratches way to easy for my taste. I want it done right the first time. KG gunkote works like a charm...haven't tried duracoat yet, might for my next AK build.
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