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Obiwan

06-19-2006, 06:27

Article in the paper this AM

Boulder County is trying to relocate a Waste Transfer Site to that location

The guy in charge appears to be Mike Johnson

mjohnson10@fs.fed.us

(303) 541-2534

The article says they want to get the waste site off federal land

So they are going to sell the shooting site

Why not sell the current site????????????????

Bouolder county resource conservation district

Jeff Callahan

720-564-2220

7idl

06-19-2006, 06:59

?????

doesnt make sense (so it must be true) :roll:

any links or more info?

JohnTRourke

06-19-2006, 14:34

I hate boulder
city and county both
[50]

Obiwan

06-19-2006, 16:26

http://www.longmontfyi.com/region-story.asp?ID=8318

7idl

06-19-2006, 16:59

isn't it National Forest ?

they can "sell" it ?

:?:

Merl

06-19-2006, 17:38

sure they can sell it. it is the Govt's land after all. we're just allowed to use it.

So the plan is to herd everyone into LHC then close it?

Obiwan

06-19-2006, 19:22

Yeah they can sell it

But they are trying to sell them "extra" land in order to stay where they are

And they call it a dump ...just to help make it sound reasonable

When in fact it is no more a dump than any trash can is.

They have dumpsters (and dumping stations) in National Parks

There are lots of options including extending the lease

But they wouldn;t get rid of a shooting area

Things that make you go HMMMMM

ruger

06-20-2006, 00:21

I dont think that it is the same place....

Quote from the paper:
"Instead, the county is considering moving the site to a former landfill near Raymond that is now a popular shooting range."

The "shooting range" at hwy 7 & 72 is not an old landfill. Perhaps it is just close to there?

-Ruger

newracer

06-20-2006, 08:31

Merl

06-20-2006, 09:35

there is only one "shooting range" at 7 & 72

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=h&om=1&ll=40.167396,-105.459738&spn=0.006026,0.011351
there is only be one spot near 7&72 under consideration unless they want to either bulldoze trees & a flat area or put it right beside the road. I doubt wither of those are options.

(FYI, existing transfer site)
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.197302,-105.528467&spn=0.001506,0.002838&t=h&om=1

2ndChildhood

06-20-2006, 09:49

OK, so whoever is going to be point man in contacting Mike Johnson, step forward.
Let us know how the communication goes and we can support you with email floods as needed.
2C

Merl

06-20-2006, 10:07

I sent an email yesterday as soon as I saw this asking for reasons behind this and referencing the Urban Front country Initiaitve.
honestly I expect any comments to simply be ignored

Obiwan

06-20-2006, 21:11

I sent emails to Mr. Johnson as well as Mr. Calahan

(Also emailed the Boulder Ranger district)

I only got a reply from Calahan

He stated that some Allenspark residents wanted it moved and there were several options being considered

Asha'man

07-03-2006, 00:08

The "shooting range" at hwy 7 & 72 is not an old landfill.

Yeah, it is.

Brian

ruger

07-03-2006, 17:22

umm. please back this up.

I believe that 1 of 2 things is happening here
1) There must be 2 places to shoot near 7&72 and people are getting them mixed up
2) There was a landfill NEAR the 7&72 range and people are just saying "well, it is less than a mile away so it is the same place".

I only know of one place to shoot at 7&72, and I would have to say that if the place that I know of was a land fill, it had to have been over 50-75 years ago - back in the day when it didnt make sense to haul your garbage up to 8,000 feet...like today...

Also, using google earth, I just measured the range there. It is only about a football field in length and width. Hardly large enough for a landfill.
Here is the link:
http://www.google.com/maphp?hl=en&q=&ie=UTF8&ll=40.167322,-105.456208&spn=0.007346,0.01693&t=h&om=1

In my estimation there is zero evidence that the range there is an old dump. The land there is nearly solid rock...well..crumbly rock, but still quite a pain the ass to dig a hole in. There are no access roads, there are trees everywhere that have been there for decades.

Also, 7&72 is right on a main Tourist drive - who would want a landfill right there?

Off the road down by Raymond makes more sense.

-Ruger

Asha'man

07-03-2006, 20:42

I recall a while back that someone had posted pictures of the 7&72 spot back in the '60s or '70s; I believe there was even a shot of a bear? although I could be wrong on that. Along with the pictures, there was info that stated that the area was a landfill for a time. I agree with you that it would have to have been dormant for quite a while, but I think several decades would be time enough to get to the way it is now. Does anyone else remember these pictures/info or am I just FOS?

Brian

Obiwan

07-05-2006, 21:32

I could easily see it as an old landfill

Just look at how the land falls away on the far side

It looks just like it was " built up"