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Her version of Paul Revere: "He who warned, uh, the … the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, uh, by ringin' those bells and, um, by makin' sure that as he's ridin' his horse through town to send those warnin' shots and bells that, uh, we were gonna be secure and we were gonna be free … and we were gonna be armed."
And it's certainly not the first time she demonstrated her ignorance of American history and her grasp of world affairs is pathetic.
I don't understand her appeal at all....
How anyone can consider her a viable president is beyond my comprehension.
If she couldn't stand the heat of being a media target as Governor how does anyone think she could handle the pressure of being president?!?!
No, I'm not a democrat, I consider myself an independent of very conservative bent. Good Lord, I hope the Republicans can find somebody worth a damn to run... But Palin ain't it! Obviously IMNSHO.
Thanks for letting me rant....
colocowboy01
06-03-2011, 19:32
Rant on, she is an idiot. What did the republicans see in her anyway?
trlcavscout
06-03-2011, 19:33
Um um um um ah ah ah um um havent you um heard um um the masses um um like idiots [Beer]
It's sad, really, that someone so prominent in the political arena can be so painfully dumb to listen to. Sad, but oh so common. At least felony charges aren't being brought against her. Yes I'm looking at you, Mr Edwards. No wonder people are so disenfranchised with politics.
wow. warned the British...wow.
And Paton was a German Field Marshal, and he carried a Luger <that's less offensively wrong!
I don't think they can blame the liberal media for this one. She should find a hole, this whole fame thing isn't doing well for her.
Byte Stryke
06-03-2011, 20:08
what?
BPTactical
06-03-2011, 20:13
Hey- at least she has a basic idea of the concept.
More than most of the Lefties I would imagine.
How is this any different than one who thinks we have 57 states...............
If the media was unbiased O'blunder would be a chew toy. It is pathetic that the left has idiots like Rangel, Edwards and Weiner and although they get an honorable mention in the media when they eff up yet if somebody on the right rips a fart in church it is major news.
Not defending SP, I like that she seems honest and says what she feels but I will agree, she isnt Presidential material.
DSB OUTDOORS
06-03-2011, 20:14
I'd do her.
^^^^^ She's HOT!! And likes guns "AR-15" and Hunts!! Daddy like. [Tooth]
Hey- at least she has a basic idea of the concept.
More than most of the Lefties I would imagine.
How is this any different than one who thinks we have 57 states...............
Perhaps true...None of them should be President.
Hell ignore proof of citizenship, make turds running for office pass the basic citizenship test!
I'd do her.
How bout a threesome?
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20110602/capt.7e4615fc56ba4d4583c125d2c4364003-7e4615fc56ba4d4583c125d2c4364003-0.jpg?x=400&y=266&q=85&sig=iH.HEO0ZmfPmr3qLgrd5qw--
Pancho Villa
06-03-2011, 21:20
Threesomes are just way too much work unless the girls are also into each other.
Just sayin'.
Anyway, "my chimp is less retarded than your chimp" is a poor defense. Palin isn't qualified to be dog catcher, let alone president. Neither is Obama.
More's the pity.
xxxx isn't qualified to be dog catcher, let alone president. Neither is xxx.
More's the pity.
Are any of them....?
Anymore, I'm pretty much of the opinion that if they are in Washington or trying to get there, they are of extremely poor character and I wouldn't want my daughter/son/relatives to date 'em....
When the choice is who you're going to vote against instead of voting "for", it's a sorry state of affair... the last 15-20 years...
probably time to stop drinking [Beer] or posting [Rant2]......
stevelkinevil
06-03-2011, 22:03
Ron Paul..........the only worthy candidate. Which is precisely why he doesn't have a chance. [Bang]
Pancho Villa
06-03-2011, 22:13
Ron Paul..........the only worthy candidate. Which is precisely why he doesn't have a chance. [Bang]
I have serious issues with Ron Paul's foreign policy.
The US did not "cause" the Muslim world to hate us, any more than we "caused" Japan to hate us - ie, two mutually exclusive ideologies (in this case, liberal capitalism vs the islamic state) are just going to collide.
Just leaving the area won't solve the problem.
Neither will staying there and nation-building, enshrining democracy to the point where both Iraq and Afghanistan's constitutions put Islam as the state religion and the highest law of the land. The Japanese tried to pull that BS post-WWII - making only cosmetic changes to the Meji constitution and essentially keeping the state religion (shinto, with the Emperor as a god-figure) and state structure as it was. We told them where to stick it and MacArthur wrote their constitution for them. We all know how that turned out.
All we're doing now is sowing the seeds for the next war, the way we are handling things.
Personally, I don't think Palin will run for Pres., regardless of her current "campaign tour". She's a damn good-looking woman that is currently riding high on the wave of popularity, and IMO she's raking in as much cash as she can now while the gettin's good. Sarah Palin is in this for the Palin bank account, IMO. Books, speaking engagements, TV shows....cha-ching, cha-ching.
Think about it.....they have a large family and live in Alaska, one of the most beautiful places on Earth. Does anybody really think that whole tribe would move to the shithole of Washington DC? With a handicapped toddler? I sure wouldn't, oh hell no! And the family staying in AK wouldn't work, she couldn't commute back and forth, and she's too much of a Mom to be away from her family like that.
Being what she is right now pays a LOT better than being a governor or a President.
I may be just a horny old bastard, but I could sure go for a babe who was as easy on the eyes as she is. Without the herd of kids though.
Troublco
06-03-2011, 22:46
None of the above for President?
mcantar18c
06-03-2011, 23:15
I have serious issues with Ron Paul's foreign policy.
The US did not "cause" the Muslim world to hate us, any more than we "caused" Japan to hate us - ie, two mutually exclusive ideologies (in this case, liberal capitalism vs the islamic state) are just going to collide.
Just leaving the area won't solve the problem.
Neither will staying there and nation-building, enshrining democracy to the point where both Iraq and Afghanistan's constitutions put Islam as the state religion and the highest law of the land. The Japanese tried to pull that BS post-WWII - making only cosmetic changes to the Meji constitution and essentially keeping the state religion (shinto, with the Emperor as a god-figure) and state structure as it was. We told them where to stick it and MacArthur wrote their constitution for them. We all know how that turned out.
All we're doing now is sowing the seeds for the next war, the way we are handling things.
+1
Damnit Pancho you're not supposed to make me agree with you [Bang]
The presidency no longer matters because Bamo has made himself General Secretary..
Is this sarcasm or did he actually pump out an EO for this? If you tell me you aren't joking, I'd believe it.
Byte Stryke
06-03-2011, 23:58
I dont trust any of them...
no public servants, all self servants
I agree that Palin is an idiot. But there are many like her in DC.
But it doesn't really matter who is president because they are just a puppet for the big money and corporations that really run the show.
I'm an independent
I'd like to see Obama and his regime take a nice long hike next year but so far the Republican candidates are morons--they better regroup and get their chit together quick or we're gonna be stuck with what we got now for another 4 years.
I'm damned sick of voting for the lesser of 2 evils because the lesser of 2 evils is still evil
Bailey Guns
06-04-2011, 04:49
Her version of Paul Revere: "He who warned, uh, the … the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, uh, by ringin' those bells and, um, by makin' sure that as he's ridin' his horse through town to send those warnin' shots and bells that, uh, we were gonna be secure and we were gonna be free … and we were gonna be armed."
And it's certainly not the first time she demonstrated her ignorance of American history and her grasp of world affairs is pathetic.
I don't understand her appeal at all....
How anyone can consider her a viable president is beyond my comprehension.
If she couldn't stand the heat of being a media target as Governor how does anyone think she could handle the pressure of being president?!?!
No, I'm not a democrat, I consider myself an independent of very conservative bent. Good Lord, I hope the Republicans can find somebody worth a damn to run... But Palin ain't it! Obviously IMNSHO.
Thanks for letting me rant....
Seriously? An idiot?
So what have you accomplished in your life that qualifies you to pass judgment on her intellect? How many states have you governed? In how many cities have you been elected mayor?
So she bumbled a few lines in a speech. Big deal. Every president I can remember has done that. Even the "smart" ones like Obama.
The leftist media likes to portray Palin, and every other conservative, as a bumbling moron and most people lack the critical thinking necessary to realize that. If the media started telling everyone the sky was pink, eventually you'd have a bunch of people running around talking about how pink the sky is.
They're masters at this and also convinced everyone that Bush was an idiot. A guy with an Ivy League graduate degree, fighter pilot, manager of several businesses, etc...
Palin may, or may not, be the sharpest knife in the drawer. But when was the last time any mainstream media outlet mentioned how smart a viable conservative candidate was? Yeah...I can't remember either.
She wouldn't be my first choice as republican candidate for president. But I'm certain she could do just as well as Obama or any number of other candidates on either side of the fence.
Yeah...Palin's an idiot all right. All the way to the bank. I wish I was that stupid. [/sarcasm]
And Ron Paul is a disaster in the making as president.
Seriously? An idiot?
So what have you accomplished in your life that qualifies you to pass judgment on her intellect? How many states have you governed? In how many cities have you been elected mayor?
So she bumbled a few lines in a speech.
Bumbled! Please...Warned the BRITISH, Paton was a Nazi and Lee was a Union man, its a downright offensive misunderstanding of American history! She said it, the Media didn't put those words (almost, more like noises) into her mouth. I take pride in my history, and expect the same from someone looking to run this country.
What I have I done that qualifies me to be president, well-
- A. I'm not running for president, so I am not exposed to the same scrutiny. That logic falls flat, the next time someone makes a slide at Pres. Obama, I expect you to jump on that one, no one can say he hasn't done a lot that many of us haven't, unless someone on here can be called Dr. Professor Senator Esq. I didn't know about.
- B. I passed fifth grade, I haven't cheated on my wife, I don't hate America, I view service as something I do for the people of this country, not something to make me famous, I won't change my opinion by miracle depending on what voting block I need to get elected, and I can read. Vote BigMat.
I should add, I am frustrated. Pres. Obama has lied about the things that mattered to me, he has done nothing for the economy of note, and he has betrayed his base ( not that it affects me, but a little honor would be nice) and more. The economy is in shambles, the war drags on, and the light at the end of the tunnel grows dimmer. He should be easy to beat, and yet, the GOP puts up a gaggle of turds and expects me to be happy! There are smart accomplished people in the GOP and in third parties, and none of them run, we get cheaters, patronizers, and fools...and Ron Paul, who I can't figure out for the life of me. Ugh
colocowboy01
06-04-2011, 06:27
Seriously? An idiot?
So what have you accomplished in your life that qualifies you to pass judgment on her intellect? How many states have you governed? In how many cities have you been elected mayor?
So she bumbled a few lines in a speech. Big deal. Every president I can remember has done that. Even the "smart" ones like Obama.
The leftist media likes to portray Palin, and every other conservative, as a bumbling moron and most people lack the critical thinking necessary to realize that. If the media started telling everyone the sky was pink, eventually you'd have a bunch of people running around talking about how pink the sky is.
They're masters at this and also convinced everyone that Bush was an idiot. A guy with an Ivy League graduate degree, fighter pilot, manager of several businesses, etc...
Palin may, or may not, be the sharpest knife in the drawer. But when was the last time any mainstream media outlet mentioned how smart a viable conservative candidate was? Yeah...I can't remember either.
She wouldn't be my first choice as republican candidate for president. But I'm certain she could do just as well as Obama or any number of other candidates on either side of the fence.
Yeah...Palin's an idiot all right. All the way to the bank. I wish I was that stupid. [/sarcasm]
And Ron Paul is a disaster in the making as president.
Do the same rules apply for criticizing all of our elected, public Masters, or is it just the "conservative" ones that we need to be equal to or more successful then?
Did anyone one here graduated from Columbia University and Harvard Law School and then teach constitutional law for 12 years? If not, you are not worthy(according to the, "you have not done anything to equal the one being criticized rule") to criticize B. Hussein Obamie and his "knowledge" of the law and Constitution, because he has done these things and you have not.
Sorry, it is not my rule. I'm just trying to enforce it.
Paradude54
06-04-2011, 07:41
Going back to the original post, what about Jim Demint? It's looking like he might announce and he's promising. One of only 10 that voted against the extension of the mis-named "Patriot Act" and an A+ rating from GOA.
As for Palin, if by chance she does get the nomination, look at her running mate since he or she will be the president after she takes her ball and goes home 10 or 11 months into her term. Maybe then she can go on another bus tour.
68Charger
06-04-2011, 07:45
"Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."
-Douglas Adams
I find this even more fitting today then when I first read it.
BREATHER
06-04-2011, 07:50
I call it "obsessed with celebrities syndrome" Most droll boring dumbass American citizens only know celebrities. They're too stupid to pay attention to real current events. They just know "American Idol" fags, or Skoochie or whatever that pigs name is from the "Jersey thing".
That is a major problem today and politicians and business's capitolize on it. All kinds of shenanigans are being pulled because everyone wants to be entertained and not have to worry about world affairs, "cuz I jus wanna feel good and jus wan the govments ta take care of me"
And in my opinion, that is what Palin is doing. Can't blame her for making a buck....
I like Palin but only in that she brought a renewed vigor to the republican party. I don't like her for president, but I think she would be just as good as Barry. Will she run for president? Probably, it brings more attention to her and more speaking engagements - basically she becomes more Palin.
Now the problem with Palin is that she has really helped put the Tea Party on the map. This is a good thing because it's the "we're fed up" conservatives, but the Tea Party is a bad thing IMHO because it's splitting the vote all over the map - several elections were lost to dems because the battle was between Tea Party and Republican. I think the Tea Party is given far more credit than they deserve and that's gone straight to their heads, drunk with popularity and flush with cash. If they become the counter to MoveOn.Org and those types then great, but if they split the vote then we're screwed.
Romney will not have a chance (again), Paul will not have a chance (again), Palin will get close but not get past the primary (but guarantee she'll be a third party and that will split the vote). I'm, right now, in for Pawlenty, but we'll see where that goes in the coming months.
Rust_shackleford
06-04-2011, 10:00
I concur. Palin is an attempt to sway the real TeaPartiers to the GOP
Delfuego
06-04-2011, 10:27
She is a high functioning retard....
BigMat for President!!!![Luck]
Already said it before but will say it again....
MAZIN & Morgan Freeman for President, Morgans down and I'm up to it. Long golf trips, some head in the oral office, print some extra cash. Oh wait did I say that out loud?
colocowboy01
06-04-2011, 11:24
I concur. Palin is an attempt to sway the real TeaPartiers to the GOP
+1^
SamuraiCO
06-04-2011, 17:53
Is she an idiot no. But right now Ivy League looks real light weight and does nothing for us. Does she have more common sense than most in DC, you betch ya. Does she scare all the belt way panty wastes oh yea. No golf for her she would be shooting, hunting and fishing with the secret service shooting full autos with Ted Nugent photo ops.
Everyone has miss spoken about something they should know and it gets harder knowing every word you speak is looked at through a microscope. I cut her slack knowing this especially from the media nowdays.
Is she running? No, I believe she is trying to energize the base so the candadates start off with a solid conservative focus and hopefully bringing the most conservative candidate to the forefront to run against odumbo.
We have several good candidates that may not have everything but are far and away better than odumbo. Until Paul Ryan or Marco Rubio or Bobby Jindle come up we would do well with Tim Pawlenty or Romney. Herman Cain also has started to get traction. I really like Paul but he is more hated by the media than Palin.
It is early on and lots of mud slinging and vetting.
Lastly would most men on this forum say no to someone like her if you already not that blessed?
she isn't the brightest. im not a fan. but personally i don't think those types of things should eliminate someone from president. you can make sound national decisions with basic common sense. in fact in some ways thats what we are missing. hey we could keep with tradition and go with slick, smooth talking salesmen who cheat on their wives, lie for a living and don't know what its like to be a normal citizen in america. why is those people are more acceptable to be president? because theyre rich? because they went to an ivy league school? im tired of zero common sense presidents. reagan wasn't a genius by most standards. he just had common sense.
Zundfolge
06-04-2011, 20:11
I don't understand her appeal at all....
How anyone can consider her a viable president is beyond my comprehension.
Compared to the jackass that currently has the job I'd be perfectly happy with Palin taking his place ... hell I'd be perfectly happy with TRIG Palin taking his place.
nogaroheli
06-04-2011, 20:23
Compared to the jackass that currently has the job I'd be perfectly happy with Palin taking his place ... hell I'd be perfectly happy with TRIG Palin taking his place.
This ^^^
BPTactical
06-04-2011, 21:01
hell I'd be perfectly happy with TRIG Palin taking his place.
[LOL]
I don't think the press, the left and a portion of the right abhor Palin for WHO she is, but rather WHAT she symbolizes.
A lot of traditional American values and beliefs.
This is a pothole in the road for the "Progressive" ideology and they can't stand her poking the bees nest.
Her ideals scare them.
She may not always articulate herself the best but at least you know it is her thoughts and words as opposed to a scripted teleprompter address that some overpaid twit composed.
[LOL]
I don't think the press, the left and a portion of the right abhor Palin for WHO she is, but rather WHAT she symbolizes.
A lot of traditional American values and beliefs.
This is a pothole in the road for the "Progressive" ideology and they can't stand her poking the bees nest.
Her ideals scare them.
She may not always articulate herself the best but at least you know it is her thoughts and words as opposed to a scripted teleprompter address that some overpaid twit composed.
This isn't true, I don't care what her values are.
I am reasonably sure She couldn't pass a citizenship test, that's why I don't like her.
I know a ton of liberals, they are fine with very socially conservative people, but Sarah Palin makes her own bed. Can't blame the media, she said it, she puts herself out there. Her words, her fault. Its not like they are in her yard at 2 in the morning quizzing her, she was asked a question at a press function, that she went to, and her running, unedited response was fully wrong, again. Bumble, please, helped the British, that's completely wrong, 180 degrees wrong, of a fairly simple concept that most 13 years olds should be able to handle.
After that, don't get me started on Service, because I don't like her for a clear misunderstanding of what service means. It doesn't involve quitting half way into a known term, because you have a shot to make more money and be on TV. She has proved all other listed reasons to be false, except for maybe the ethics violation one, that could be it too.
BPTactical
06-05-2011, 08:27
This isn't true, I don't care what her values are.
I am reasonably sure She couldn't pass a citizenship test, that's why I don't like her.
I know a ton of liberals, they are fine with very socially conservative people, but Sarah Palin makes her own bed. Can't blame the media, she said it, she puts herself out there. Her words, her fault. Its not like they are in her yard at 2 in the morning quizzing her, she was asked a question at a press function, that she went to, and her running, unedited response was fully wrong, again. Bumble, please, helped the British, that's completely wrong, 180 degrees wrong, of a fairly simple concept that most 13 years olds should be able to handle.
After that, don't get me started on Service, because I don't like her for a clear misunderstanding of what service means. It doesn't involve quitting half way into a known term, because you have a shot to make more money and be on TV. She has proved all other listed reasons to be false, except for maybe the ethics violation one, that could be it too.
I see your point and it is a valid one. It is those bobbles and fumbles that don't make her presidential material.
But I still think she represents some things that the lefties despise.
Pancho Villa
06-05-2011, 21:37
I see your point and it is a valid one. It is those bobbles and fumbles that don't make her presidential material.
But I still think she represents some things that the lefties despise.
I don't know that, for all her bluster, she has been for things like windfall profit taxes on oil companies.
I mean, she talks a good game, but when it gets right down to it I don't know how different she'd be.
She won't give it up...seriously (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1394591/He-WAS-warning-British-Palin-justifies-Paul-Revere-blunder-little-historical-revision.html). She is almost impressive now. And I guess it wasn't a blunder at all.
sneakerd
06-05-2011, 22:19
She's got a great butt. She's a milf. She can tell me what to do any day.[Muaha]
I have a hard time with the fact that Palin has never said a negative word about her former running mate (during the campaign?!) pushing TARP in Washington all the while singing yay capitalism and personal responsibility.
She sure hasn't pushed for even something as simple as enforcing the Federal Reserve Act to control big dollar predators and fraudsters...she did wave her hands in the air about twice.
Nor has she pushed for enforcing current regulations on illegal immigrants.
She seemed pretty passive when O ran the stop through on drilling. "drill-drill-drill??" my ass.
I also have a hard time calling her a "hunter" after watching the video. I am glad that she is not afraid to go after game publicly and use a rifle....but I thought it was embarassing to the lifestyle in many ways. If only she would have channeled a little more Roosevelt or Churchill....
I still maintain that the socialists/totalitarians help put Palin in place to make an easy battle at the voting booth. She is un-electable.
Palin would be a bad choice for the GOP to give their nod for nomination. Sure she bumbles her words and is constantly putting her foot in her mouth (whether she knows it or not), but you can't dog someone for being a terrible public speaker- remember, our pal Bush fumbled several speeches but could come back and make fun of himself for it because he was smart enough to know that his mouth got away from him from time to time. I know a few wounded warriors who got to meet Sarah some time ago and they think she's very smart and said that she is incredibly friendly. But they also said she'd be a bad presidential choice because her knowledge base is limited. Sure she can run a state, city, business, but country? Not likely. I've read several scholars who claim that public speaking isn't a skill that a great leader needs to possess, in fact if we remember, Adolf Hitler was one of the best public speakers and he seduced an entire country into the beliefs he had. Barry Osama has been looked at as the best presidential speaker since JFK, but that in no way means he's a good leader (take my options for healthcare and guns and he would possibly be the worst American president EVER).
End note: I would love to do things to Palin in the bedroom that would make pornstars say "DAMN!" But one of them is not checking the box next to her name in Nov 2012.
Byte Stryke
06-06-2011, 10:24
This isn't true, I don't care what her values are.
I am reasonably sure She couldn't pass a citizenship test, that's why I don't like her.
I know a ton of liberals, they are fine with very socially conservative people, but Sarah Palin makes her own bed. Can't blame the media, she said it, she puts herself out there. Her words, her fault. Its not like they are in her yard at 2 in the morning quizzing her, she was asked a question at a press function, that she went to, and her running, unedited response was fully wrong, again. Bumble, please, helped the British, that's completely wrong, 180 degrees wrong, of a fairly simple concept that most 13 years olds should be able to handle.
After that, don't get me started on Service, because I don't like her for a clear misunderstanding of what service means. It doesn't involve quitting half way into a known term, because you have a shot to make more money and be on TV. She has proved all other listed reasons to be false, except for maybe the ethics violation one, that could be it too.
Im not arguing you point against Palin.
But I would like to state that most American kids graduating high school can not pass a citizenship exam and even Fewer adults.
Im not arguing you point against Palin.
But I would like to state that most American kids graduating high school can not pass a citizenship exam and even Fewer adults.
It's sad really, I know people from Europe who are working on getting their citizenship and they know more about America than some of the people I know who were born here. But when confronted, these people always fight back with the ignorant: "I was born here, I don't need to pass a citizenship exam!"
She won't give it up...seriously (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1394591/He-WAS-warning-British-Palin-justifies-Paul-Revere-blunder-little-historical-revision.html). She is almost impressive now. And I guess it wasn't a blunder at all.
this is why i don't get all that bent out of shape about supposed mishaps or even the real ones. for one, people who have every single word analyzed and recorded are going to say something stupid. its a given. go back and watch videos of every president in history, they all have gaffe's. youtube probably even has compilations of them, especially the conservative ones since it seems its always blown out of proportion. has anyone else seen all the time obama and his side kick have misspoke? it happens all the time. additionally, as some historians have come out and said, she wasn't really wrong. the issue comes down more to how she meant it. its like when that one tea party chic was running for congress and said the 1st amendment isn't about church and state. she was actually right and was trying to make a point, but everyone jumped on the "SHES AN IDIOT!!!!!" train instead of listening to what she was saying.
again, i am not a palin fan and don't want her to run, but we could do a lot worse than palin. gaffe's are part of public office and to make a big deal about them isn't being honest in critiques of politicians because every public official has them. besides, even if she was wrong i really don't care. you can get all patriotic and yada yada but her knowledge of the exact events that occurred in the 1700's don't have any bearing on us today. as long as she understands the meaning of the constitution and the rights our forefather's wanted us to have, thats all she needs to know about the 1700's. sure its nice if our politicians are patriotic and know the exact history of our founding, but id rather have someone with a better understanding of the constitution and no knowledge of history than a history buff who views the constitution the way obama does.
id rather have someone with a better understanding of the constitution and no knowledge of history than a history buff who views the constitution the way obama does.
As a rough draft of a high school newspaper op-ed? That's how I see him as viewing the Constitution...
funkfool
06-06-2011, 15:30
I didn't bother to read this, because personally - I don't really give a rats ass about Sarah Palin - except her voice is annoying...
That said...
How about this:
You know how Sarah Palin said Paul Revere warned the British? Well, he did. Now, who looks stupid? (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/06/sarah-palin-says-paul-revere-warned-the-british.html)
You may have heard recently something about that Sarah Palin telling a reporter that Paul Revere warned the British on his famous rousing revolutionary ride.
Now, that so many Americans have wallowed in their smug confirmation that Palin is an idiot unqualified for anything but repeating sixth-grade history, how far, wide and fast do you think the contradictory news will spread that the former governor of Alaska was indeed correct?
That the Republican non-candidate, in fact, knew more about the actual facts of Revere's midnight ride than all those idiots unknowingly revealing their own ignorance by laughing at her faux faux pas? How secretly embarrassing this must be, to be forced to face that you're dumber than the reputed dummy.
As it happens, though, such phenomena are regular occurrences in American politics, reminding consumers of news to be wary when some fresh story seems to fit contemporary assumptions so absolutely perfectly.
The well-known fable is Revere's late-night ride to warn fellow revolutionaries that....
...the British were coming. Less known, obviously, is the rest of the evening's events in which Revere was captured by said redcoats and did indeed defiantly warn them of the awakened militia awaiting their arrival ahead and of the American Revolution's inevitable victory. Palin knew this. The on-scene reporters did not and ran off like Revere to alert the world to Palin's latest mis-speak, which wasn't.
Like a number of famous faux gaffes in American politics, the facts of the situation no longer really matter.
The initial impression was eagerly grabbed by so many, starting with the reporter and millions of others gleefully sharing the story that reinforced their beliefs and/or desires.
This phenomenon is actually not a new one in American politics, although its immediate spread is obviously hastened by the Internet. Speaking of which, Al Gore did not invent it. Nor did he claim to, as often as you've heard otherwise.
In 1999, the hapless former journalist, who should have known to make a better word choice, told CNN that in Congress he "took the initiative in creating the Internet."
Democrat Gore never used the word "invented." (http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp) That was part of another willful misinterpretation that fit expectations of Gore's boasts and was gleefully spread by opponents as further proof of his unseemly hubris. It lives on to this day.
Perhaps you remember how one day during a photo op President George H.W. Bush was overheard asking a store checkout clerk how this price scanner thing worked?
That quote was immediately transmitted as proof of how disconnected that Republican chief executive was, that he had no knowledge of something as ordinary as a checkout scanner.
The fact is, asking such inane and often obvious questions as "what are you doing here?" is a bipartisan ploy used by politicians to fill the awkward time void they are hanging around someone working while photographers snap their photos several hundred times.
President Obama likely said much the same thing last Friday in that Toledo Chrysler plant when for the benefit of nearby photographers he feigned interest watching assembly-line worker Anthony Davis install a dashboard instrument panel.
A classic example of this faux faux pas was in 1992 when Vice President Dan Quayle agreed to participate in a New Jersey classroom spelling bee.
Working from a placard, Quayle corrected one sixth-grader by telling him to add an "e" to "potato." Journalists gleefully noted the spelling misteak. And Quayle's dunce hat was glued in place.
Trouble is, that mis-spelled placard was actually written out by the classroom teacher herself, either through her own ignorance or, a few suspect, some sly political set-up. Quayle knew he hadn't written it and thought the error was the point of the lesson.
And because the classroom spelling bit was a last-minute addition, aides who would have foreseen the everlasting damage of their boss inexplicably adding a mistake to a student's work did not know what the placard said. Quayle subsequently forbade them from explaining the error to the media, for fear of embarrassing the teacher.
One of the immutable laws of public communications in politics and other fields is, if you have to explain something, you lose. Seeking to explain you were for something before being against it simply digs a deeper hole.
This time the mistake for Palin, who used to be accused of dodging reporters' questions, was bothering to answer such an amateur media gotcha question in a noisy, moving crowd. Better would have been a simple dismissive and cheery, "You're kidding, right?" Such are the ongoing lessons for primary candidates. Which she isn't now, of course.
Early in a previous race for the Republican presidential nomination almost 12 years ago, then Texas Gov. George W. Bush was in a jammed New Hampshire airport meeting room, answering questions from local media. Apropos of nothing, one reporter (perhaps prompted by an opponent's camp) asked Bush his pre-written gotcha: Name the new president of Pakistan.
Obviously, Pervez Musharraf had nothing to do with New Hampshire issues and is similar to some Democratic candidates flubbing the name of Russia's then prime minister during 2008 debates (Dmitry Medvedev).
Bush didn't know the Pakistani leader's name that day and looked clumsy attempting to answer. He could have brushed it away by instantly asking the reporter some arcane political who's-who, laughing off their mutual ignorance and quickly taking the next question. But he didn't and took media lumps for several days.
As everyone now knows, such a splashy gaffe can effectively doom any chance a candidate has of winning two terms in the White House.
So... there it is... it is all a damn game to them...
It's politics... and it is like wading neck deep through the sewer...
funkymonkey1111
06-06-2011, 16:27
Even the libs at the Boston Herald agree with her version
http://bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view.bg?articleid=1343353
I'm not Palin fan, but looks like a fair number of the dipsh!ts in this thread have an elementary school knowledge of what happened with Mr. Revere.
funkfool
06-06-2011, 16:51
For educational purposes only:
Friday, June 3, 2011
So Now All These People Will Apologize to Sarah Palin About Paul Revere, Right? (http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2011/06/so-now-all-these-people-will-apologize.html)
As with most people, I simply took at face value the popular version that Paul Revere warned that the British were coming, the British were coming.
Not having any real reason to look into it any deeper, Sarah Palin's statement that Revere warned the British that the colonial militias were waiting seemed odd.
But it appears that the popular version is not complete.
In fact, as pointed out at Conservatives4Palin, Revere did in fact tell the British that the colonial militias, who had been alerted, were waiting for them. Here is the original historical text (http://conservatives4palin.com/2011/06/governor-palin-gives-the-media-a-history-lesson-on-paul-reveres-midnight-ride.html) written by Revere (spelling in original, bold added):
I observed a Wood at a Small distance, & made for that. When I got there, out Started Six officers, on Horse back,and orderd me to dismount;-one of them, who appeared to have the command, examined me, where I came from,& what my Name Was? I told him. it was Revere, he asked if it was Paul? I told him yes He asked me if I was an express? I answered in the afirmative. He demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and aded, that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that There would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up. He imediately rode towards those who stoppd us, when all five of them came down upon a full gallop; one of them, whom I afterwards found to be Major Mitchel, of the 5th Regiment, Clapped his pistol to my head, called me by name, & told me he was going to ask me some questions, & if I did not give him true answers, he would blow my brains out. He then asked me similar questions to those above. He then orderd me to mount my Horse, after searching me for arms
Palin's short statement on the video was less than clear; that sometimes happens but the part of the statement which has people screaming -- that Revere warned the British that the colonial militias were waiting -- appears to be true.
I've learned something new today, about Paul Revere.
The leading lights of the left-blogosphere (http://www.memeorandum.com/110603/p70#a110603p70) have made fools of themselves, as have people who are not of the left-blogosphere. I presume they all will be apologizing.
Update: Aaron Worthing (http://patterico.com/2011/06/03/does-it-ever-cross-their-mind-that-sarah-palin-might-actually-know-something/#more-59667) at Patterico has a round-up of all the hyperventilated left-blogospheric reaction, including by Think Progress (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/06/03/235571/palin-paul-revere/), which writes:
It’s hard to imagine why Revere would warn the British of anything, or why he’d do it with bells and gun shots.This account in "Paul Revere's Ride" by David Hackett Fischer (Oxford University Press 1994), may be of interest to Think Progress and all the others laughing because they purport to be so much better informed than Palin:
"A townsman remembered that 'repeated gunshots, the beating of drums and the ringing of bells filled the air.'.... Along the North Shore of Massachusetts, church bells began to toll and the heavy beat of drums could be heard for many miles in the night air."It's available on Google Books (http://books.google.com/books?id=ZAvQfZFbLp4C&pg=SL20-PA40&dq=Paul+Revere+bells+and+gunshots&hl=en&ei=Lo_pTaSFAdSftgfXyPzBAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Paul%20Revere%20bells%20and%20gunshots&f=false).
This
"He who warned, uh, the … the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, uh, by ringin' those bells and, um, by makin' sure that as he's ridin' his horse through town to send those warnin' shots and bells that, uh, we were gonna be secure and we were gonna be free … and we were gonna be armed."
Does not equal- the traditional story, or the continued portion containing the capture. At best it excludes the important information, and is wrong about the lesser known portion of the story, unless he took bells and a gun into the interrogation, and happened to be on a horse during the process.
In her second account of the story, presumably bumble free, she didn't refer to his capture, at all.
Even if she is an expert on the history of the revolution, and just happens to only know the less important parts, she is piss poor at explaining it, even if given two chances.
Also, no more claiming the media attacks her, this has at the very least been a most fervent and illogical defense. A better defense could be as easy as, yes, he warned the British, in that the Revolution had not yet terminated, creating the US, and thereby Americans, the people warned were technically, British. Your welcome Sarah.
Honestly, the interrogation- Is this the list of what comes to mind for her-
Jefferson, known for his skills at botany. Washington, known for his failures in the French and Indian War, and Revere, he got caught and talked. I'm sure that's what she meant.
palin is like dan quayle.
smart, dedicated, but labeled by the liberal media as an idiot and derided accordingly.
palin and quayle have made gaffes. as have everyone else. especially biden.
Well, son of b*tch.
Even the libs at the Boston Herald agree with her version
http://bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view.bg?articleid=1343353
I'm not Palin fan, but looks like a fair number of the dipsh!ts in this thread have an elementary school knowledge of what happened with Mr. Revere.
Hello, I'm a dipshit. And you've just confirmed what my my wife keeps telling me... Damn it!!! [Bang]
Can someone direct me to the nearest DS Anonymous chapter?
probably time to stop drinking [Beer] or posting [Rant2]...... I should have thought of this before I started the thread....
I still wouldn't vote for her. I can't get past her resigning as governor.
ghettodub
06-07-2011, 09:43
Regardless of what she said this time, or if she was right, not right, etc, I still think she's an idiot and wouldn't vote for her...unless it was to see her in Playboy or something...
Looks like the liberal media has been very effective in this thread.
Conservatives are easily divided by BS like this?? Thought we are smarter than that?? I guess since liberal media has made it popular to criticize and act hateful about Palin, conservatives should jump in too?
Wow, how easy that makes it for the libs. This is how we ended up with BO Soetoro as a president? McCain and Palin were mocked and ridiculed while BO was praised. Unfortunatley many people either can't or refuse to read their news. BO has no surprises for me, I read about all the things he is doing now before the election. And I ignored media BS.
For the record, read about why Palin dropped out of her gubernatorial status. She was a victim of liberal legal attacks that diminished her ability to do her job, and it was costing the state big $. Remember, we have an attorney as president, and he has many other attorneys fighting for him. This is a real problem.
For all those who voted for BO, they deserve what they have gotten. His views and agendas were available for dissemination BEFORE the election.
We are charged with hiring the most important "employee" in our nation and people don't take time to at least study the candidates, but just sit in front of a television to make a decision like that??
If Palin runs against BO, she will definately get my vote. Is she perfect? No, but she at least believes in the Constitution and budgetary responsibillity.
For all that want to criticize and be hateful, keep it up.. The liberals appreciate the help. Turn other conservatives away if Palin runs in 12' so BO can get re-elected. That would be great for America...
It's politics... and it is like wading neck deep through the sewer...
I'd say neck deep is a underestimation of the shit depth of politics.
As far as Palin goes: smart or not, image influenced by the MSM or not, experienced enough or not, it doesn't really matter because anyway she has arrived to the unelectable table. We (Republicans and right leaning independents) have to start digging up some strong candidates and stop being distracted by people who stand a snowballs chance in hell of being elected. God forbid we find someone to stand against the prodigal son and have someone like Palin split the ticket by running independent.
Pancho Villa
06-08-2011, 19:11
I'll just leave this here.
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/3841/derppalin.jpg (http://img856.imageshack.us/i/derppalin.jpg/)
I admit, I am not fan of Palins, and I have not hidden that fact.
That said, this guy really lays it out nicely. (http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/06/11/welch.palin.email/index.html?hpt=hp_c2) I know, CNN, but it was an interesting read to be sure.
Maybe, I've jumped on the bandwagon a little much, although I haven't defended Pres. Obama at all either. I am just I hater I guess.
[Rant1]
Colorado Pete
06-12-2011, 01:15
To find out what really happened on Revere's ride, read "Paul Revere's Ride" by David Hackett Fischer. Very good and readable story.
Palin had the right idea but garbled it.
And yes everyone in MA back in 1775 was "British", native-born colonials as well as the military government and redcoats. Revere never said "The British are coming!", heck he and everyone he was warning was British. That's like one of us saying "The Americans are coming!" when we see a troop convoy going down the highway. He said, "The Regulars are out!", meaning the redcoat troops.
Palin is no idiot. I don't think she's presidential material, but no idiot.
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