View Full Version : Driving question for the LEOs on here...
So this is for any LEOs, current or former:
Does it aggravate you as much as it does me when a driver is driving near a marked police vehicle does 5-20mph UNDER the speedlimit? I was running some errands today and there was a Jeffco B&W and everyone gave the deputy at least 4 car lengths and I think I got to maybe 50 in a 55... What's the deal? Just do the speed limit and they won't stop you.
There is always some leeway in speed calibration. Generally speaking, if the cop is driving at or about the speed limit, don't pass them. This is just a general sign of disrespect. Not quite like giving them the finger, but if the po-po is at 35mph in a posted 35mph, so you decide to slide by him at 37-38mph, you should expect to have a pleasant conversation with the officer about your ability to observe your surroundings and drive at the posted speed limit.
If on the other hand, the officer is clearly, driving well under the posted speed limit, and it is safe to do so, drive on by, at the posted speed limit. Don't wave as you go by, and don't pop your clutch, make drastic lane changes, or otherwise draw attention to yourself and the officer will probably remain attentive to whatever it is they are doing which has them driving so slowly.
Traffic stops happen. I taught my kids how to handle a traffic stop when I taught them how to drive. I hope they never need to use that skill, but knowing how to act while in public is just a sign of good manners IMO. [Flower]
If on the other hand, the officer is clearly, driving well under the posted speed limit, and it is safe to do so, drive on by, at the posted speed limit. Don't wave as you go by, and don't pop your clutch, make drastic lane changes, or otherwise draw attention to yourself and the officer will probably remain attentive to whatever it is they are doing which has them driving so slowly.
So wheelying by at 3x the posted limit is probably a bad idea? [LOL]
Let's add to the list of objectionable (if mostly legal) driving habits:
- going 10 mph under the posted limit in the fast lane.
I have no problem with people going slower than the posted limit on the highway, but there is a place for such things, and that place is the rightmost lane. [Rant1]
- driving while distracted
Why is it that people find it necessary to do so many things behind the wheel besides DRIVE THE DAMNED CAR? [Bang][AR15]
There is always some leeway in speed calibration. Generally speaking, if the cop is driving at or about the speed limit, don't pass them. This is just a general sign of disrespect. Not quite like giving them the finger, but if the po-po is at 35mph in a posted 35mph, so you decide to slide by him at 37-38mph, you should expect to have a pleasant conversation with the officer about your ability to observe your surroundings and drive at the posted speed limit.
If on the other hand, the officer is clearly, driving well under the posted speed limit, and it is safe to do so, drive on by, at the posted speed limit. Don't wave as you go by, and don't pop your clutch, make drastic lane changes, or otherwise draw attention to yourself and the officer will probably remain attentive to whatever it is they are doing which has them driving so slowly.
Traffic stops happen. I taught my kids how to handle a traffic stop when I taught them how to drive. I hope they never need to use that skill, but knowing how to act while in public is just a sign of good manners IMO. [Flower]
True, but I was wondering if cops, well the ones on here, get TO'd if say there is a car in front of them doing 10 under... or why people have to go so slow if there is a cop around. BTW, the cop today was doing 55 in, surprise, a 55 zone, but everyone else was doing their damnedest to go 5 or more MPH slower than he was... [Rant1]
Colorado Luckydog
06-06-2011, 14:03
Generally speaking, if the cop is driving at or about the speed limit, don't pass them. This is just a general sign of disrespect.
If I pass a cop, it's a sign of disrespect? A person with a regular way of thinking about them could almost interpet that as, I was in a hurry. We have all recently read what can happen in Colorado when you disrespect a LEO. Better not pass no po-po's if you want to keep your teeth.
[Driver][PoPo]
Pretty common for people to slow down near a marked car. Most cops just go around them when they can. Once in a while you get a feeling about a car doing Waayy Under the posted. Sometimes an officer will follow along to see if they can observe anything out of the ordinary about the car or the occupants. Sometimes the driver gets so nervous with the po-po behind them, they do something they ought not to do and they get pulled over. Sometimes this results in the officer building probable cause for a good arrest after an investigatory stop. This is good police work and what most officers like to do with their time between donut runs and listening to oldies radio stations while parked in a school parking lot.
If you draw attention to yourself, don't be surprised when someone (like the po-po) pays attention to you. Consider it our Service to the community.[Coffee]
If I pass a cop, it's a sign of disrespect? A person with a regular way of thinking about them could almost interpet that as, I was in a hurry. We have all recently read what can happen in Colorado when you disrespect a LEO. Better not pass no po-po's if you want to keep your teeth.
[Driver][PoPo]
I don't believe the loss of teeth or any other physical violence was mentioned. However, if you are so much in a hurry, and you have so little attention of your surroundings that you blow on by a marked police car, which is being driven at the posted speed limit (which the police don't set by the way), then you should not be surprised when the police ask you for your DL/Registration and POI. If you don't like the laws, then by all means, work to change them. Please don't be offended when the cop is doing their job.
Personally, I would never cite someone for flipping me the bird. I would consider that a waste of my time to try and provide a lesson in good manners to someone who obviously didn't get that lesson when they were growing up. I try not to take anything personally, especially from someone I don't know. Everyone is welcome to their opinion and expressing yourself is an American tradition. In my opinion, when you blatantly break the law, you show disrespect to the law and the authority that created that law. If you break the law in front of someone who has sworn to uphold the law, then you are showing disrespect to that officer and their profession. Consider it like coming into your workplace and taking a dump in the middle of what you are working on while you are working. Maybe that is a bit drastic, but I think most professional criminals wait till the po-po aren't watching before they commit their crimes.
I don't necessarily agree with all laws, but picking and choosing what you will or won't enforce is not one of the boxes on the test when you take the job.
I don't believe the loss of teeth or any other physical violence was mentioned. However, if you are so much in a hurry, and you have so little attention of your surroundings that you blow on by a marked police car, which is being driven at the posted speed limit (which the police don't set by the way), then you should not be surprised when the police ask you for your DL/Registration and POI. If you don't like the laws, then by all means, work to change them. Please don't be offended when the cop is doing their job.
Personally, I would never cite someone for flipping me the bird. I would consider that a waste of my time to try and provide a lesson in good manners to someone who obviously didn't get that lesson when they were growing up. I try not to take anything personally, especially from someone I don't know. Everyone is welcome to their opinion and expressing yourself is an American tradition. In my opinion, when you blatantly break the law, you show disrespect to the law and the authority that created that law. If you break the law in front of someone who has sworn to uphold the law, then you are showing disrespect to that officer and their profession. Consider it like coming into your workplace and taking a dump in the middle of what you are working on while you are working. Maybe that is a bit drastic, but I think most professional criminals wait till the po-po aren't watching before they commit their crimes.
I don't necessarily agree with all laws, but picking and choosing what you will or won't enforce is not one of the boxes on the test when you take the job.
Great points right there, and no, you can't get mad about the trained officials in ENFORCING the law doing their job. It's not their law, it's the state/city/county/federal law. However, fun fact I learned, a lot of counties and municipalities will conduct observations to see how people drive in relation to the speed limit, and actually change them to appropriate speeds. Well in my town (Evergreen), they don't do this, mainly because the limits here are to take into account for 3 factors- 1)Wildlife, 2) Winter conditions, and 3) Hills obstruct views of side roads entering the main roads that would make every intersection deadly if the limit were higher. Personally, I get mad at whoever is responsible for setting or amending the limits, because some areas are just too slow and the aforementioned factors wouldn't be an issue if it was say raised from a 40 to a 50.
However, fun fact I learned, a lot of counties and municipalities will conduct observations to see how people drive in relation to the speed limit, and actually change them to appropriate speeds.
They recently changed the speed limit on a road near me about a month ago. It was 45 mph and a lot of people were going 55 mph. They raised the limit to 55. Now at least half the people are driving 65.
At least they won't lose any revenue is spite of the higher speed limit.
I motor right on past them.. why should I feel guilty or disrespectful for doing what is legal?
I would like to pass one some day and see them dying laughing at all the people driving slowly behind them.
Lex_Luthor
06-06-2011, 15:25
A lot of times, I'll come up on an officer doing a couple mph under the speed limit. I try to stay at or just barely above a posted speed limit. So if he's doing 33 in a 35, and if I'm doing 37 in the same 35mph zone, I usually just carry on and pass if the opportunity arises.
I motor right on past them.. why should I feel guilty or disrespectful for doing what is legal?
I would like to pass one some day and see them dying laughing at all the people driving slowly behind them.
Agreed, if the cop is driving below the posted speed limit, you are perfectly legal driving right on past them. The disrespect part is when the marked car is right at the posted speed limit, the only way you can pass them is if you are driving above the posted speed limit. No need for law school on that one.
Drive by a marked police car, that is driving at the posted speed limit, you have violated the posted speed limit and therefore may be subjected to a traffic stop and issuance of a Notice of Violation. Kind of like; "Here's your sign."
In practice, many cops don't like issuing nit-picky tickets for two miles over the limit. (Way back when I drove a marked unit) If I was sitting at a light and someone blew the light, or committed some obvious traffic infraction, I was obligated to make a stop. I recall one time it happened to me, and right after a driver blew a light, I looked over at another driver who was sitting next to me, and they did the little head shrug and pointed in the direction of the offender. What was I supposed to do? I wanted to ignore it, but that really wasn't an option. I did my job and I would do it again.
I am so happy not driving a marked car any more. [Flower]
Agreed, if the cop is driving below the posted speed limit, you are perfectly legal driving right on past them. The disrespect part is when the marked car is right at the posted speed limit, the only way you can pass them is if you are driving above the posted speed limit. No need for law school on that one.
Drive by a marked police car, that is driving at the posted speed limit, you have violated the posted speed limit and therefore may be subjected to a traffic stop and issuance of a Notice of Violation. Kind of like; "Here's your sign."
In practice, many cops don't like issuing nit-picky tickets for two miles over the limit. (Way back when I drove a marked unit) If I was sitting at a light and someone blew the light, or committed some obvious traffic infraction, I was obligated to make a stop. I recall one time it happened to me, and right after a driver blew a light, I looked over at another driver who was sitting next to me, and they did the little head shrug and pointed in the direction of the offender. What was I supposed to do? I wanted to ignore it, but that really wasn't an option. I did my job and I would do it again.
I am so happy not driving a marked car any more. [Flower]
I hear you there, and most cops I know hate to even write the written warnings for a few over- usually I hear the rule of thumb is 1-9MPH over is forgivable and they usually won't hassle with a traffic stop, but 10+ and you should just call your insurance right away and tell them to just raise your rates cuz good chance you'll get a ticket.
I have several "If I was a cop..." moments on a daily basis, especially since people are stupid and inconsiderate up here... Like today, I was turning left onto CH-73 from CH-74 and right turning traffic coming from the other way is *supposed* to yield, well some dumb [bad name for a stupid woman driver] decided to let the truck in front of me go and then try to squeeze in, well there wasn't enough room and I stepped on the gas just to prove a point, gave her a little beep, and mouthed "YIELD" at her. Had I been in a marked R&P I would have lit her up and gave her either a ticket for failure to yield or a warning. It really grinds my gears when people are disrespectful to other drivers on the road.
I was told this as a rookie and will always remember it: If you are writing a ticket because the citizen made you mad, you are writing for the wrong reason. If you find yourself frequently taking action out of anger, seek help and/or alternative employment.
Big Wall
06-06-2011, 18:04
They recently changed the speed limit on a road near me about a month ago. It was 45 mph and a lot of people were going 55 mph. They raised the limit to 55. Now at least half the people are driving 65.
Yep, and the other half are going 45 because they are too stupid to see that it was changed to 55.
Agreed, if the cop is driving below the posted speed limit, you are perfectly legal driving right on past them. The disrespect part is when the marked car is right at the posted speed limit, the only way you can pass them is if you are driving above the posted speed limit. No need for law school on that one.
Drive by a marked police car, that is driving at the posted speed limit, you have violated the posted speed limit and therefore may be subjected to a traffic stop and issuance of a Notice of Violation. Kind of like; "Here's your sign."
In practice, many cops don't like issuing nit-picky tickets for two miles over the limit. (Way back when I drove a marked unit) If I was sitting at a light and someone blew the light, or committed some obvious traffic infraction, I was obligated to make a stop. I recall one time it happened to me, and right after a driver blew a light, I looked over at another driver who was sitting next to me, and they did the little head shrug and pointed in the direction of the offender. What was I supposed to do? I wanted to ignore it, but that really wasn't an option. I did my job and I would do it again.
I am so happy not driving a marked car any more. [Flower]
I don't see that as disrespect at all. Given the allowance of error on a spedo 5-7% is legal? I could be wrong on that percent, and seeing as there is no law requiring civilian vehicles to be calibrated at any given time during it being on the road. If he's motoring on at 35 and I pass him at 37, and the posted speed is 35.. It is still perfectly legal.. you say it's disrespect, I say it is legal. Semantics. Beauty of the legal system it is up to the state to provide burden of proof..
I can totally understand in a construction zone, or a school zone as there is a MUCH higher risk in the surrounding enviroment, while technically still legal with the given percentage allowed for error in a speedo I would understand being stopped and lectured. A ticket would be a bit severe, and again it is a burden of proof...
Colorado speed laws are pretty stupid.. Prima Facie.. 'reasonable and prudent'.. it's a great way to set up revenue generation, because it is a discretionary judgement. But I digress.. [Tooth]
How far away do "pedestrians" have to be before I can make a right turn at a red light with a sign posted "No right turns while pedestrians present."?
Do people waiting at the bus stop count as pedestrians? What about the guy holding the sign advertising cash for gold? What if I'm traveling North bound, on the South East corner of the intersection, and want to make a right hand turn to proceed East bound, and there is a guy standing at the North West corner, waiting to cross South bound on the West side of the intersection?
No one really has to answer any of those questions. I learned how to drive back when I was 16 and am confident that I can scan the area for pedestrians and make a turn without hitting any of them. I don't stop for those red lights at on ramps either.
How far away do "pedestrians" have to be before I can make a right turn at a red light with a sign posted "No right turns while pedestrians present."?
As long as no-one is anywhere in or near the crosswalk you are legal. Too many drivers just take that corner while peds are in the crosswalk thinking it is okay as long as their bumper misses them by more than a foot, but they can get cited for that. Not sure exactly what the citation would be for though.
The thing that pisses me off are the jerks who completely disregard the crosswalks and mosey across the street right in the middle of the block, deliberately interfering with traffic as if it is a game of some sort.
My question I've had of late is. Got a nice car. Can't/shouldn't hot rod at 60 through town. However, is there anything against say at a red light, once green, goosing it a bit (Not launching it, squeeling tires/pedal to the floor just solid accel) and getting yourself up to the speed limit far ahead of anyone else? To be clear that doesnt mean go from 0-50 and back down to 40, I mean 0-40. Also NOT doing this against another car.
KevDen2005
06-07-2011, 05:20
How far away do "pedestrians" have to be before I can make a right turn at a red light with a sign posted "No right turns while pedestrians present."?
Do people waiting at the bus stop count as pedestrians? What about the guy holding the sign advertising cash for gold? What if I'm traveling North bound, on the South East corner of the intersection, and want to make a right hand turn to proceed East bound, and there is a guy standing at the North West corner, waiting to cross South bound on the West side of the intersection?
No one really has to answer any of those questions. I learned how to drive back when I was 16 and am confident that I can scan the area for pedestrians and make a turn without hitting any of them. I don't stop for those red lights at on ramps either.
Technically completely out of the crosswalk. If they are in it anywhere it can be a violation.
As for the red lights on ramps it can still be failing to stop for a red light.
KevDen2005
06-07-2011, 05:21
My question I've had of late is. Got a nice car. Can't/shouldn't hot rod at 60 through town. However, is there anything against say at a red light, once green, goosing it a bit (Not launching it, squeeling tires/pedal to the floor just solid accel) and getting yourself up to the speed limit far ahead of anyone else? To be clear that doesnt mean go from 0-50 and back down to 40, I mean 0-40. Also NOT doing this against another car.
Are you asking whether you can or cannot squeel the tires?
KevDen2005
06-07-2011, 05:25
I was told this as a rookie and will always remember it: If you are writing a ticket because the citizen made you mad, you are writing for the wrong reason. If you find yourself frequently taking action out of anger, seek help and/or alternative employment.
+1
Don't write attitude tickets. That can't be good and for your personal health either. Plus, most likely you will never see the citizen whose day you just ruined, why let their bad words get to you.
As for getting flipped off, I would never stop a car for just that. I am certainly not going to stop every car that has a person that doesn't like the police in it. I can't really see how as an officer I can be the victim of any possible offense with being flipped off. And for other citizens I think it's all about articulation, if a citizen is standing by me getting flipped off by a passing car I don't really see how there is going to be an immediate breach of peace such as possibly drunks in a bar flipping eachother off. That's my personal opinion.
Don't write attitude tickets. That can't be good and for your personal health either. Plus, most likely you will never see the citizen whose day you just ruined, why let their bad words get to you.
Oh don't misconstrue what I was trying to say, if I was a LEO I would never write and attitude ticket, bad for the ol' ticker ya know! :) My who deal was that is outrages me in general that people pick and choose which laws and signs to obey, as if it's a suggestion rather than law. I would 9/10 times tell them that next time they should yield or stop or whatever the sign says and let them off with a warning, nothing personal, just logic.
Also, with the jay-walking, it's a joke of a crime anyway, but the real stink of it is if a person decides to step out onto a roadway with no crosswalk while you're doing 45, 50, 55 and you don't have adequate time to stop, you hit them, you're at fault because peds have the right of way. Total BS if you ask me, though.
KevDen2005
06-07-2011, 10:43
Oh don't misconstrue what I was trying to say, if I was a LEO I would never write and attitude ticket, bad for the ol' ticker ya know! :) My who deal was that is outrages me in general that people pick and choose which laws and signs to obey, as if it's a suggestion rather than law. I would 9/10 times tell them that next time they should yield or stop or whatever the sign says and let them off with a warning, nothing personal, just logic.
Also, with the jay-walking, it's a joke of a crime anyway, but the real stink of it is if a person decides to step out onto a roadway with no crosswalk while you're doing 45, 50, 55 and you don't have adequate time to stop, you hit them, you're at fault because peds have the right of way. Total BS if you ask me, though.
Pedestrians don't exactly have the right of way, that is a myth in a lot of ways. And the majority of cops I know probably give a warning around 8 or 9 out of 10 stops. It's the unlucky guy that gets a ticket that probably thinks tickets are given out 100 percent of the time...State Patrol is a little different as well as department traffic units which their main functions are traffic stops.
I can't tell you how often I am on my way to a call and see a guy speeding, running a red light, etc and I wanna stop them but the priority is usually the call I am assigned to.
In your pedestrian example I know numerous cases where pedestrians thought they had the right of way because they were pedestrians, got hit by a car, then got a ticket...because in accidents, most of the time, there needs to be an "at fault " party.
KevDen2005
06-07-2011, 10:45
Also, I can't say that I have ever written a ticket for it, but people who don't use their turn signals are really starting to get on my nerves. Your hand is right next to the switch and it's so easy to use, and it turns off by itself...
Obviously I see it more when I am not at work and I rarely stop for it, but i have had people make multiple turns and lane changes in front of me in a marked patrol unit and not use a single turn signal. I stop them and I ask them to demonstrate that it functions...then remind them it's there for a reason, but most likely wouldn't write a ticket for it.
Also, I can't say that I have ever written a ticket for it, but people who don't use their turn signals are really starting to get on my nerves. Your hand is right next to the switch and it's so easy to use, and it turns off by itself...
Obviously I see it more when I am not at work and I rarely stop for it, but i have had people make multiple turns and lane changes in front of me in a marked patrol unit and not use a single turn signal. I stop them and I ask them to demonstrate that it functions...then remind them it's there for a reason, but most likely wouldn't write a ticket for it.
What if they are out of blinker fluid? [Bang]
Yes it's a pet peeve.. i've actually had conversations with people about it.. that I know they have them, they are no longer an option on production vehicles :)
Okay, I'm not bashing, and don't intend for this thread to go that way, but what's the best COA to take for a marked patrol unit that commits a blatant oversight of laws such as coming to a complete stop while turning at red lights, illegal U-Turns (and no emergency lights before, during or after) and other things that would warrant a traffic stop if it were a non-LEO? Should I write down their vehicle number? Write a letter to the department reminding them that LEOs should "lead by example"? Let it slide?
Lex_Luthor
06-07-2011, 11:14
Well there's stuff like that. The thing that worries me is that I live close to an elementary school. I see officers FLYING by at 60+ mph pretty frequently. Sometimes during school hours. I'm sure they're responding to a call, but.....really? Do they have to go THAT fast right by a school?
Hey Kev:
http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/forums/images/smilies/doublefinger.gif
Just kidding [LOL]
Keep up the good work!
Are you asking whether you can or cannot squeel the tires?
No, NO squeeling tires. No chirping balls out launches. For sure not when there's another car that wants to race. Just accelerating with some authority and stopping before passing the limit. Having a hard time putting words to it. Basically where a lot of people will take a scary 10-12 seconds to hit 40, I'd do it in say 6. (As opposed to all out is 0-60 in 5.9.)
So, yes I'm getting out ahead of the pack, but not breaching posted limit, and not burning rubber or redlining it making a spectacle.
No, NO squeeling tires. No chirping balls out launches. For sure not when there's another car that wants to race. Just accelerating with some authority and stopping before passing the limit. Having a hard time putting words to it. Basically where a lot of people will take a scary 10-12 seconds to hit 40, I'd do it in say 6. (As opposed to all out is 0-60 in 5.9.)
So, yes I'm getting out ahead of the pack, but not breaching posted limit, and not burning rubber or redlining it making a spectacle.
I do the same thing all the time- it's mostly just my way of driving... I don't accelerate to show off, or race or anything like that, I just get up to the speed limit a bit faster than everyone else. Must be that old Army training kicking in or something. I'm pretty sure, and please someone correct me if I'm wrong, but within the confines of safe driving, there is no law dictating how long you have to take to get to speed, as long as you don't commit exhibition of speed or racing.
tmjohnson
06-07-2011, 18:24
To Ronin 13
I was passing thru Castle Rock today and was pulled over by CHP. I was doing 54 in a 45
I received 100.00 ticket.
I was speeding, so your 1thru 9 mph is forgiven didn't fly for me.
KevDen2005
06-07-2011, 18:54
No, NO squeeling tires. No chirping balls out launches. For sure not when there's another car that wants to race. Just accelerating with some authority and stopping before passing the limit. Having a hard time putting words to it. Basically where a lot of people will take a scary 10-12 seconds to hit 40, I'd do it in say 6. (As opposed to all out is 0-60 in 5.9.)
So, yes I'm getting out ahead of the pack, but not breaching posted limit, and not burning rubber or redlining it making a spectacle.
I would take notice to it for sure, but couldn't really say I would stop you, I would probably follow you a bit to see what your deal was. "Rapid Acceleration" is a part of the statute, 42-4-1105, but unless it was blatent racing, or squealing tires, etc., I think Officers may leave you alone....depending on how fast your "rapid acceleration was.
KevDen2005
06-07-2011, 18:58
Okay, I'm not bashing, and don't intend for this thread to go that way, but what's the best COA to take for a marked patrol unit that commits a blatant oversight of laws such as coming to a complete stop while turning at red lights, illegal U-Turns (and no emergency lights before, during or after) and other things that would warrant a traffic stop if it were a non-LEO? Should I write down their vehicle number? Write a letter to the department reminding them that LEOs should "lead by example"? Let it slide?
You could, that is your right to do so. Keep in mind that my job is to drive in circles for 10 hours at a time in about 20 square miles. I am not in a hurry to get anywhere unless I have to. Lots of times these officers are responding to a call that requires a degree of hurrying, however their department policy says they can't run emergent (lights-sirens/Code 3 in most agencies). You as the citizen that called us have a reasonable expectation of our response to be quick. There are many times that I as an officer believe we should run emergent to a call because a life may be in danger, etc, and my supervisor "shuts me down."
Those officers aren't just having fun, usually, and probably responding to a citizens call for service. Often times family disputes that could erupt into something bad any second are things that I go to that we can not run emergent for. But for obvious reasons we probably should.
KevDen2005
06-07-2011, 18:59
To Ronin 13
I was passing thru Castle Rock today and was pulled over by CHP. I was doing 54 in a 45
I received 100.00 ticket.
I was speeding, so your 1thru 9 mph is forgiven didn't fly for me.
I think municipalities are different. The joke is that CSP would pull me over, in a marked unit, and give me a ticket.
But in reality that is what their job is, traffic and traffic related things.
tmjohnson
06-07-2011, 19:09
I just thought it was ironic that this thread was posted after getting a ticket today
I am on the road all over this state, I drive 4,000 to 5,000 miles per month and see lots of CSP. I see them drive 95 to get to office in Durango. Screaming over roads just to get to office and it appeared to me unload the vehicle and go home for the day. Who polices them?
To Ronin 13
I was passing thru Castle Rock today and was pulled over by CHP. I was doing 54 in a 45
I received 100.00 ticket.
I was speeding, so your 1thru 9 mph is forgiven didn't fly for me.
That 1-9 forgiveness is usually based on the fact that you're not going that fast, error in speedo, etc. and potentially could be dismissed in court, so yeah not every agency goes by that, and not every officer does that, especially in Morrison, where 2+ over is a ticketed offence. They're judge in the municipality never gives leniency for anything over the posted limit, even if your speedo is off by 1-3 mph- like mine, but it shows 3 faster than my actual speed. Getting that fixed could be very costly so I don't.
I got into a traffic accident today on I-25 and the Denver traffic cop was very nice and didn't even bat an eye at my CCW. Didn't even ask me if I was holding or anything.
KevDen2005
06-08-2011, 23:05
I got into a traffic accident today on I-25 and the Denver traffic cop was very nice and didn't even bat an eye at my CCW. Didn't even ask me if I was holding or anything.
That's cool.
I almost always tell people how appeciative I am that they told me.
I told him I appreciated him not freaking out. His response was basically "Meh."
KevDen2005
06-08-2011, 23:27
I told him I appreciated him not freaking out. His response was basically "Meh."
I would guess then he is probably a more experienced officer...
I work with a few officers that don't do it that way...the way they do it isn't illegal or frowned upon by the courts, but it is frowned upon by me
Getting 100ft front of the car next lane at red lights within few seconds... To me, it just tells you were not very drunk because you were able to respond to green light in less than average 8 seconds :)
I do it usually every time I am at stop light... I do not mean to offend anyone, it is just my habit. If I would want to make rubber squeal, it has to be kick-boost-up-move-feet-off-from-clutch-pedal and that is not what I usually want to do in daily traffic.
But I have to do something when start signal goes off, sorry can not help it :)
It is the way of living: if you want to act when you hear timer goes "BEEP!" or you do not care ;)
I got unmarked patrol car follow me ½ mile twice. He then turned back, probably because he realized I am not gonna go to 150+ mph and if I would his patrol car could only follow from long distance :)
And no, I do not see that happening unless my or some others life is depending on it.
KevDen2005
06-09-2011, 00:49
I can say this, my patrol car is old and crappy, and can do a 130 MPH without a problem...
Our newer cars have no problem getting to 150+
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