View Full Version : Colorado Ranks High on Freedom Index
Bailey Guns
06-08-2011, 11:01
The Mercatus Center at George Mason University has released an interesting ranking of "freedoms" by state.
See Colorado's ranking HERE (http://mercatus.org/freedom-50-states-2011/CO). I'm not sure they got the guns law accurately, though. It appears they believe background checks apply on private sales. Maybe I'm reading it wrong.
I think gun laws here are pretty good compared to most states.
DeusExMachina
06-08-2011, 11:15
A big reason why I moved here.
Doesn't Indiana have some bad gun laws? Surprised to see it at #4.
leatherneck448
06-08-2011, 11:17
Doesn't Indiana have some bad gun laws? Surprised to see it at #4.
Youre allowed to carry there at 18 from what I understand.
Not really sure about everything else, but it doesnt sound too bad
DeusExMachina
06-08-2011, 11:19
I think I was confused in that Indiana does not issue CCWs, but issues "license to carry" with allows open and concealed carry.
mcantar18c
06-08-2011, 11:27
Youre allowed to carry there at 18 from what I understand.
Not really sure about everything else, but it doesnt sound too bad
You can open carry here at 18, minus Denver county.
leatherneck448
06-08-2011, 11:31
You can open carry here at 18, minus Denver county.
thats limited to rifles and shotguns though correct?
mcantar18c
06-08-2011, 11:44
thats limited to rifles and shotguns though correct?
18+ for open carry handguns, according to a pro 2A LEO I know. Not sure what the rules are on open carry of long arms outside of Nat. Forests, but I don't know why I'd be walking around with one anyway. I keep my rifle in my truck (long arms = loaded but not chambered in vehicles) but don't walk around with it.
On the subject of OC.... I've walked into Starbucks on the way up to the mountains with my .44mag sitting on my side and gotten funnier looks about ordering straight black coffee than open carrying, and I wouldn't call this a generally 2A-friendly area.
a cabin in south dakota looks like a good idea
Colorado state law is 21 to purchase, possess and own a pistol. I find it funny that NY is #50... they are the supreme example of a police state. Tried to make me pay $650 for a NYS pistol permit, and without it you can't even hold a pistol at a gun store!
mcantar18c
06-08-2011, 11:48
Colorado state law is 21 to purchase from FFL and CC a pistol.
Fixed.
18+ can buy anything private party (barring any reason they can't, i.e. felonies and such), to include handguns. Can carry anywhere, concealed or open, in their vehicle (their = they own it). Can open carry anywhere but Denver county, need to be 21 for CCW though. Can also own/posses anything other than Class 3 if purchased private party or gifted to them.
It appears they believe background checks apply on private sales. Maybe I'm reading it wrong.
I got the impression that meant there was a backround check at gun shows, which there is for private party sales.
It was an interesting list. I bet some people are unhappy. Texas and Arizona seem to value their freedoms so much but have some very tight laws about a lot of stuff, guns in Texas and the search laws and business rules in AZ. Seemed about right to me.
Fixed.
Can carry anywhere, concealed or open, in their vehicle (their = they own it).
Don't have to own the vehicle. It just has to be privately owned. Same as a house or privately owned business.
Colorado state law is 21 to purchase, possess and own a pistol. I find it funny that NY is #50... they are the supreme example of a police state. Tried to make me pay $650 for a NYS pistol permit, and without it you can't even hold a pistol at a gun store!
Gun Crime in NY is committed 96% by Black and Latino minorities. Heard that last year on Mike Rosen's show, but its never brought up to the libs. Pretty amazing stats.
Chicago and DC guncrime has gone way down, 30%+, but again, you never hear about that (after court ruled gun laws unconstitutional)
Libs will kill ya with the altruistic nonsense [Stooge]
A big reason why I moved here.
Doesn't Indiana have some bad gun laws? Surprised to see it at #4.
Indiana gun laws were pretty good. I guess they're ending the lifetime CCW program though.
H.
KevDen2005
06-09-2011, 02:00
Very interesting.
I want to surf the page some more, but am a little confused on exaclty how some of the numbers came up.
New York and California were obvious guesses, same with Jersey...
I am surprized about Texas, Arizona, Wyoming, and Montana
DeusExMachina
06-09-2011, 08:34
Gun Crime in NY is committed 96% by Black and Latino minorities. Heard that last year on Mike Rosen's show, but its never brought up to the libs. Pretty amazing stats.
Got a source? And hopefully not the KKK website. Also maybe you could explain what that has to do with anything.
leatherneck448
06-09-2011, 09:03
wait, so let me get this straight........
If a handgun is bought in a private sale by an 18 y/o, and stored in a private place, (home, car, private business, etc) then it is legal for said 18 y/o to own said handgun?
flan7211
06-09-2011, 09:18
wait, so let me get this straight........
If a handgun is bought in a private sale by an 18 y/o, and stored in a private place, (home, car, private business, etc) then it is legal for said 18 y/o to own said handgun?
That would be correct I legally owned a few handguns when I was 18.
wait, so let me get this straight........
If a handgun is bought in a private sale by an 18 y/o, and stored in a private place, (home, car, private business, etc) then it is legal for said 18 y/o to own said handgun?
Yup, had one at 20 myself (late to the party I know)
"Got a source? And hopefully not the KKK website."
Relevance to topic? Not for me to answer but here's your "non-KKK source," one of many.
NYPD: Year End 2010 Enforcement Report: (http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/analysis_and_planning/crime_and_enforcement_activity.shtml) Crime and Enforcement Activity in New York City (Jan, 1 - December 31, 2010)
Shooting victims are most frequently Black (73.7%) or Hispanic (22.3%). White victims account for an additional (2.6%) of all Shooting victims while Asian/Pacific Islanders victims account for (1.1%) of all Shooting Victims.
The race/ethnicity of known Shooting suspects is most frequently Black (74.2%). Hispanic suspects accounted for an additional (23.3%) of all suspects. White suspects (1.4%) accounted for the remaining significant portion of suspects while Asian/Pacific Islander suspects accounted for (1.2%) of the known Shooting suspects.
The Shooting arrest population is similarly distributed. Black arrestees (69.2%) and Hispanic arrestees (26.3%) account for the majority of Shooting arrest population. White arrestees (2.9%) and Asian/Pacific Islander (1.5%) account for the remaining portion of the Shooting arrest population.
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