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lllRorlll
06-09-2011, 12:49
http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2011/05/26/pharmacist-foils-walgreen-robbery-gets-fired/?ncid=txtlnkuscare00000002
UberTong
06-09-2011, 14:05
Thats so effed up...what a bunch of pussies. How bout a thank you and let the man keep his job for saving the store and his co workers.
nogaroheli
06-09-2011, 14:40
Jeez, the comments on that article make my head bleed. All sorts if little whiners saying guns are so bad and dangerous, a gun just saved lives in this instance! This nation is turning into a bunch of people who can't think for themselves and think somebody else should take care of them- until someone does like this, then they bitch about it. Amazing.
Sadley, that's the outcome for doing the right thing in many big box stores. [Roll1]
Amazing how so many Americans are total panty wastes these days. At least the poll showed that the VAST majority of readers voted that he was fired unfairly.
A Walgreens in Benton Township, Mich., chose 'C' recently, by letting night-shift pharmacist Jeremy Hoven go for firing a handgun during an armed robbery, causing masked gunmen to flee.
The Herald-Palladium reports that when Hoven saw a robber waving a gun running down the aisle towards him, he first tried to call 911, but there wasn't enough time. Before he knew it, the robber had jumped over the counter and was pointing a 9mm pistol at him, holding it gangster-style.
Shit, the robber was holding the gun "gangster-style"...man what do you want the pharmacist to do????.......
Amazing how so many Americans are total panty wastes these days. At least the poll showed that the VAST majority of readers voted that he was fired unfairly.
What's more telling is that almost 1 in 11 find nothing wrong with firing him for defending his own life... [Rant2]
I'd like to take some of these naive liberal idiots(possibly the most redundant phrase I've ever typed) and drop them off in a real ghetto... think South Oakland, Compton, Watts, North Central Detroit... and make 'em walk out on their own, with nothing to defend themselves but their righteous indignation...
Shit, the robber was holding the gun "gangster-style"...man what do you want the pharmacist to do????.......
http://gullyborg.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/homeboy_sights.JPG
http://gullyborg.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/homeboy_sights.JPG
Oh my gosh, ok now that is some funny stuff right there!!
God no! He turned it sideways, kill shot, that's a kill shot!
This story illustrates what I've said for years. Gun control laws nowadays only make it harder for law abiding righteous citizens to protect ourselves and others by carrying firearms.
It's like the Catholic church saying that only women over 18 can carry pepper spray near the priests. We all know who need it, and it ain't the nuns.
Since the thugs will break the law and carry no matter what that law is, how about letting us folks carry without signing away our first born?
Just sayin'....[Rant1]
None of this has anything to do with gun laws.
Agreed. Regardless of the law, any private business can have any policy it wants. I get that, but I also argue that if the current gun laws weren't so restrictive, the stigma of gun ownership/carrying wouldn't lead to such restrictive policies by the private sector.
I guess what I'm trying to get across is if, as a nation, we were to recognize that bearing arms is a right as opposed to a privilege, it would be universally accepted that a citizen can/should exercise that right and the private sector would be more open to allow it or at least implement a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Streaming music is legal, but can still get you fired.
That's funny coming from me, being the only guy on here I know of who has been fired over gun stuff. I'm trying to stop being bitter.
I hope I've made it clear that I agree with you. This story has absolutely nothing to do with gun laws. As a business owner, I am glad to have the right to make my own rules for employees (lately an especially big deal is the legal MMJ. A guy can "legally" smoke weed but I sure as hell don't need to let him drive a forklift in my warehouse). All that being said, I still argue that society has made it seem like only nutjobs feel the need to carry guns and the private sector has followed suit by simply banning weapons because they are scared of their own shadows when it comes to liability. If the law of the land favored eligible citizens carrying for protection, the "rules" of the private sector would likely mirror that sentiment. Perhaps I'm rambling....
You did you did. :) Here is a smile to prove it.
DeusExMachina
06-09-2011, 22:33
I laughed at "but his gun failed on him". $5 says it was a Hi-Point.
Sucks to be that guy though. I'd rather have my life than my job.
Lex_Luthor
06-10-2011, 08:28
I'd rather have my life than my job.
[Ban1]
gnihcraes
06-10-2011, 23:23
I sent a quick "That's wrong." message to Walgreens. Below is their response.
Thank you for contacting Walgreens regarding this matter. Our policies in this area are designed to maintain the maximum safety of our customers and employees.Store employees receive comprehensive training on our company’s robbery procedures and how to react and respond to a potential robbery situation. In past incidents, employees have told us they’ve found this training effective.These policies and training programs are endorsed by law enforcement, which strongly advises against confrontation of crime suspects.Compliance is safer than confrontation. Through this practice, we have been able to maintain an exemplary record of safety.We’ve made significant investments in security technology in recent years, including increasing the number of digital surveillance cameras at our stores.With upgrades to security technology, we are able to provide police with high-resolution photographs and video of crime suspects.We continue to invest in state-of-the-art security measures and high-definition surveillance equipment and hope that the apprehension of robbery suspects in the Benton Harbor area will prevent future crimes. Thank you for contacting Walgreens to share your comments.
Sincerely,
Benny H
Consumer Response Representative
DeusExMachina
06-10-2011, 23:48
Typical "our policy is valid in 90% of situations" corporate bullshit.
They would rather their employees "be a good witness" and that 1 time out of 10 that the robber kills someone is an expense they can write off.
It really goes back to our litigious society, because a robber stealing a couple hundred bucks at most and then providing surveillance is much much cheaper than settling with the robber (or their family) who was shot by an employee.
How is Walgreens supposed to cash out the life insurance policies they take out on their employees, if they keep living through attacks?
Byte Stryke
06-11-2011, 06:23
Typical "our policy is valid in 90% of situations" corporate bullshit.
They would rather their employees "be a good witness" and that 1 time out of 10 that the robber kills someone is an expense they can write off.
It really goes back to our litigious society, because a robber stealing a couple hundred bucks at most and then providing surveillance is much much cheaper than settling with the robber (or their family) who was shot by an employee while they were committing an armed robbery/murder.
fixed
and yeah, fuck walgreens
Boy they really skirted around that answer, typical.
Does anyone know anything more about the employee or the low life scumbag thieves that robbed the place? In the initial report it said they were unaware if the robber had been shot or not.
Did Walgreens's "state of the art video surveillance equipment" aid in catching these guys??....
I'd say a good 99% of large companies have policies like this. Every single one I've ever worked at for sure.
lllRorlll
06-11-2011, 11:12
"Compliance is safer than confrontation"
lmfao...
if i didnt "need " walgreens (i cut out the walmartz)
.. id snub em..
i just cant justify hitting up target evertime i have to buy tampons.......
.... i mean condoms [Tooth]
Small business policy on shooting armed robbers: You make a mess, you clean it up. Here's a $500 bonus, and after you mop up, take the rest of the day off!
scratchy
06-11-2011, 22:07
Shit, the robber was holding the gun "gangster-style"...man what do you want the pharmacist to do????.......
Take it from him and beat him to death with it.
Chad4000
06-18-2011, 06:38
Streaming music is legal, but can still get you fired.
That's funny coming from me, being the only guy on here I know of who has been fired over gun stuff. I'm trying to stop being bitter.
Wait what? Story time!
Half Live
06-18-2011, 23:25
That's funny coming from me, being the only guy on here I know of who has been fired over gun stuff. I'm trying to stop being bitter.
Not really. I resigned in lieu of getting fired for gun stuff.
Sorry to hear it. I've had a real problem getting hired again in the same industry and it makes me wonder if if it was because of that.
Half Live
06-19-2011, 00:45
Sorry to hear it. I've had a real problem getting hired again in the same industry and it makes me wonder if if it was because of that.
That sucks man. I switched industries for my current job. Went from the food/retail industry to the auto parts industry. Some days I feel that it was the best thing for me to leave that job.
xdm_shooter
06-20-2011, 01:37
http://gullyborg.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/homeboy_sights.JPG
OMG...about fell out of my chair laughing when I seen this!! That, my friend, is too damn funny!! [LOL]
"State of the art security"= Cameras... so employees when you get shot we'll have a video of it to show your family so there is no question how you died.
-management
Sounds a little dumb to me. I'd rather all my employees pack heat instead of having to put yet another case file on the desk of some overworked, underpaid detective that could take months or even years to solve, if it gets solved. Don't try and rob this place, we'll take your picture, and if you're masked you probably will get away without a scratch because our employees aren't permitted to carry guns for their safety.
God no! He turned it sideways, kill shot, that's a kill shot!
Lol you pulled it right out of my head.
Dalendenver
06-21-2011, 14:37
Now all BGs/druggies know what store to rob because they don't have to worry about anyone defending themselves.
"Please come rob a Walgreens, we may take your picture but will be glad to provide excellent robber service."
Now all BGs/druggies know what store to rob because they don't have to worry about anyone defending themselves.
That's pretty much everywhere these days considering that even if someone breaks into your home, with a bazooka, pulling the trigger while aimed at your child while kicking your golden retriever and you shoot him you'll probably get a lawsuit and lose.
That's pretty much everywhere these days considering that even if someone breaks into your home, with a bazooka, pulling the trigger while aimed at your child while kicking your golden retriever and you shoot him you'll probably get a lawsuit and lose.
Not in the state of Colorado. The law states (and I'm paraphrasing here): Everyone has the RIGHT to feel safe in their homes. Using lethal force to defend your self, your home, or family (or all of the above) you are not subject to criminal or civil suit. Meaning... the criminal's family or the state cannot prosecute you in criminal or civil court for defending yourself lawfully. You break into my house, and I suspect you of committing or intending to commit a crime and I shoot you I'm not liable and cannot be prosecuted.
It's the 3 rules of home defense- 1) They have to enter your home (break the plane actually- a lot like football touchdowns) without consent or permission. 2) They have to commit a crime, or you suspect that they intend to commit a crime. 3) Or you feel like your or your family's life(lives) are in danger.
Fire away.
Byte Stryke
06-22-2011, 10:54
Not in the state of Colorado. The law states (and I'm paraphrasing here): Everyone has the RIGHT to feel safe in their homes. Using lethal force to defend your self, your home, or family (or all of the above) you are not subject to criminal or civil suit. Meaning... the criminal's family or the state cannot prosecute you in criminal or civil court for defending yourself lawfully. You break into my house, and I suspect you of committing or intending to commit a crime and I shoot you I'm not liable and cannot be prosecuted.
It's the 3 rules of home defense- 1) They have to enter your home (break the plane actually- a lot like football touchdowns) without consent or permission. 2) They have to commit a crime, or you suspect that they intend to commit a crime. 3) Or you feel like your or your family's life(lives) are in danger.
Fire away.
Now dont get me wrong, I am not attacking you Ronin because I know this is the way its written. But its Pretty damned stupid to say "They have to commit a crime, or you suspect that they intend to commit a crime. " after the illegally enter your home... which is a crime.
[Eek3]
DeusExMachina
06-22-2011, 10:58
Now dont get me wrong, I am not attacking you Ronin because I know this is the way its written. But its Pretty damned stupid to say "They have to commit a crime, or you suspect that they intend to commit a crime. " after the illegally enter your home... which is a crime.
[Eek3]
Illegally entering your home should be a good hint that they intend on committing a crime.
Oh, I know the law, but that doesn't seem to always be the case. Far too many examples of the law NOT working in the favor of the person protecting themselves.
Now dont get me wrong, I am not attacking you Ronin because I know this is the way its written. But its Pretty damned stupid to say "They have to commit a crime, or you suspect that they intend to commit a crime. " after the illegally enter your home... which is a crime.
[Eek3]
I'm just going off of what a lawyer told me, obviously B&E is a crime, but he said the law says "in addition to breaking in" they have to commit or be suspected of committing a crime. Some situations require more than just "he came into my house, I feared he was going to rape my 11yr old daughter so I shot him." Yes there are a lot of law abiding citizens getting the shaft when it comes to legal proceedings against their lawful use of deadly force, but as far as the law is concerned here you "should never feel as if you're being forced against a wall."
What's more telling is that almost 1 in 11 find nothing wrong with firing him for defending his own life... [Rant2]
I'd like to take some of these naive liberal idiots(possibly the most redundant phrase I've ever typed) and drop them off in a real ghetto... think South Oakland, Compton, Watts, North Central Detroit... and make 'em walk out on their own, with nothing to defend themselves but their righteous indignation...
... that and their Obama Hope and Change t-shirt! :D
I think it is great that he did what he did, to bad he did not confirm a hit. I also think it is very funny that the guys gun would not work, and thankfuly it did not also could have had a different outcome. Guy probably had a bryco LOL, hopefuly he wins, and who knows maybe it will happen again when the guy that fired him is working. I bet he will have a different view on guns then.
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms, disarms only those who are neither inclined, nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants. They server rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson 1764 [Coffee]
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms, disarms only those who are neither inclined, nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants. They server rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson 1764 [Coffee]
Well said, that's my favorite Jefferson quote, and pretty much the words I live by when it comes to guns, protection, and crime.
"Criminals will always disregard the law, and those who follow the law and respect it will become victims if the government ever abolishes the general, law abiding public from owning guns. When criminals, the military, and police are the only ones with guns, we lose." -Fmr 10th MTN DIV BN Commander (name eludes me at this time).
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