His Mom And His Boss Must Be Proud

[Colorado Luckydog]

I hope he goes to prison and gets assed raped but I bet he walks.

http://www.9news.com/news/article/203471/339/Officer-faces-charges-for-assaulting-at-risk-adult

[ghettodub]

what does "at-risk adult" mean?

[Zundfolge]

what does "at-risk adult" mean?
Usually means retarded, mentally ill or suffering from Alzheimer's.

[Colorado Luckydog]

what does "at-risk adult" mean?

It means old and feeble and not able to protect themselves. Like I said, his mom must be proud.

If he really did it and I'm sure he did, I hope the ass rapings are a daily thing for the next 25 years. But you watch, he will walk or get a slap on the wrist.

[Irving]

Guy looks really familiar.

If "at risk" means you can't protect yourself from police, then that is everyone. ;)

[DeusExMachina]

Guy looks really familiar.

If "at risk" means you can't protect yourself from police, then that is everyone. ;)

I tell my girlfriend that sometimes I feel like I'm "at-risk" when I do dumb stuff. [Stooge]

[CrufflerSteve]

I could ask my wife who works in that field but I think 'at risk' means out of it, not really understanding much of anything about what's going on. It's always a big deal when its a female victim and some guy gets in her pants. She really doesn't have it together enough to know what 'yes' or 'no' means.

If the cop goes to jail, he'll be in isolation from the hard core prisoners. If there is any truth in this, he shouldn't be a cop. A competent LEO needs some intelligence and good judgement.

Steve

[cebeu]

what does "at-risk adult" mean?

Stale info but adequate: http://www.dvmen.org/dv-184.htm

26-3.1-101 - Definitions.

As used in this article, unless the context otherwise requires:
(1) "At-risk adult" means an individual eighteen years of age or older who is susceptible to mistreatment as such term is defined in subsection (4) of this section or self-neglect as such term is defined in subsection (7) of this section because the individual is unable to perform or obtain services necessary for the individual's health, safety, or welfare or lacks sufficient understanding or capacity to make or communicate responsible decisions concerning the individual's person or affairs.

[jerrymrc]

Guy looks really familiar.


Looks like a Militia member to me. [Coffee]

[Monky]

In this instance I believe that it is referring to the mans age as being 'at-risk', seeing as he is 60, and that's apparently the point in life at which you need assistance... I have never agreed with it, but it puts old people whether they can care for themselves or not as a protected class.

It does refer to people that are incapable of caring for themselves w/o assistance at any age over 18 as well...

Essentially, it just makes the charges more severe and sound more malicious. It doesn't matter if you knew they were classified as 'at-risk' or not. Sort of like a hate-crime, only w/no prejudice due to color/sexual orientation.. simply they are older, or need assistance in life.

'Assault on an 'at-risk' adult' sounds like a stronger charge than plain old 'assault'..

Never been a fan of the category.

[Elhuero]

I hope he goes to prison and gets assed raped but I bet he walks.

http://www.9news.com/news/article/203471/339/Officer-faces-charges-for-assaulting-at-risk-adult


you're gonna get banned from cop talk with posts like that [ROFL2]

I am 100% for Law Enforcement, especially the guys here.

but us vs. them is alive and well. just go to cop talk to see it in action.

To me, this looks like a case of a LEO that didn't feel like any body had the authority to tell him anything.

[Lex_Luthor]

Wow, that guy is a prick.

[colocowboy01]

but us vs. them is alive and well. just go to cop talk to see it in action.

It seems that this guy forgot to leave the, "It Is Them Against Us", mantra at the time clock for his next shift.

[Colorado Luckydog]

Can anyone say steroids? There is a problem with a lot of cops and steroids and there has been for a very long time. I'm not saying cops need steroids to be out of control, I'm just saying it helps some of them along their way. Not sure if it's the problem in this case but it has a lot of the signs.

[mx'r]

Not with a 10' pole.. [ROFL1]

[Byte Stryke]

<Insert "I Have a Small Penis, a Badge, a Gun and a severe case of 'roid-rage" Cop bashing statement here>

[BREATHER]

Cop bashing or not, this is unacceptable. As I said before, I was an LEO in the early eighties. Only part of the job that sucked was other cops. Too many assholes, to much abusing authority, not enough psych exams. And apparently it ain't got any better. I was naive back when, I never understood why so many people were disgusted with cops. I was not the only one in my family and family friends.

P.I.G. used to stand for Pride, Integrity, and Guts. Now it stand for Pricks, Idiots and Ghouls....

The 'Good Ol' Boy" systems just don't work in any line of work where human lives are affected. This whole country is based on checks and balances, that's why we have three branches of the government. We need to plice others and ourselves. Because there are millions of drug infested, theivin' assholes that are against hard working, law abiding Americans..

I am close to sixty and my 1911 keeps me from being at risk.....[UZI]

[cstone]

I'm not a betting man, but I would be willing to put a small wager that Platteville PD will have an opening pretty soon.

I don't know how long Hughes has been on the job, but I would guess that his supervisors and co-workers are well aware of his issues and won't be holding any fund raisers to help out with his legal defense.

I normally buy my gas at that Costco and I am pretty certain I know the older gentleman who works as an attendant at the pumps. He is usually out of the building and walking around, even in inclement weather. He is friendly and a nice guy to chat with. If the victim in this assault is this same gentleman, it would take a real animal to inflict any kind of violence on him. I will pray that justice is swift and efficient in this case. I often pray for this but I am often disappointed.

[Byte Stryke]

I'm not a betting man, but I would be willing to put a small wager that Platteville PD will have an opening pretty soon.

I don't know how long Hughes has been on the job, but I would guess that his supervisors and co-workers are well aware of his issues and won't be holding any fund raisers to help out with his legal defense.

I normally buy my gas at that Costco and I am pretty certain I know the older gentleman who works as an attendant at the pumps. He is usually out of the building and walking around, even in inclement weather. He is friendly and a nice guy to chat with. If the victim in this assault is this same gentleman, it would take a real animal to inflict any kind of violence on him. I will pray that justice is swift and efficient in this case. I often pray for this but I am often disappointed.


he will be suspended with pay pending an internal investigation...

Translation: get out of the office and we will pay your bills until the limelight dims.

[cstone]

he will be suspended with pay pending an internal investigation...

Translation: get out of the office and we will pay your bills until the limelight dims.

Possibly. But you don't know that and neither do I.

Did someone tell you that life was going to be fair? You and I are old enough to know that it is not and if someone said it we would laugh at them for being a fool or a liar.

Until a better system comes along, we are stuck with the one we have. It is better here than many other places. You've been in a few of those places and I assume you would agree. As bad as it can be here, it beats some of the backwards, sewage dumps that most people live in.

I hope we all do what we can to make it better. I'll keep trying as I am sure most of us will. [Coffee]

[claimbuster]

Never been a fan of the category.

I love it, cuz I ur one! [Beer]

[Colorado Luckydog]

Possibly.
Until a better system comes along, we are stuck with the one we have. It is better here than many other places.

You mean the system that was the best ever and now is being taken away from the American people? Taken away by the very ones that are paid to protect it, at the City, State and Federal level?? That system??

[Byte Stryke]

Possibly. But you don't know that and neither do I.

Did someone tell you that life was going to be fair? You and I are old enough to know that it is not and if someone said it we would laugh at them for being a fool or a liar.

Until a better system comes along, we are stuck with the one we have. It is better here than many other places. You've been in a few of those places and I assume you would agree. As bad as it can be here, it beats some of the backwards, sewage dumps that most people live in.

I hope we all do what we can to make it better. I'll keep trying as I am sure most of us will. [Coffee]

K, Just as an example
http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-officer-2ndabuse-021009,0,3138667.story

There should never ever be an instance where an officer is found guilty of wrongdoing "Again"
My question would be "what? we didn't learn the last time?"

I'm not talking about an officer failing to check the proper box on a traffic ticket. It is a deliberate and intentional act to beat the hell out of someone.

This isn't an "oops I shot a guy I thought the cellphone in his hand was a gun in the low light."

you have to be personally close to beat someone.
and we as a society are fucking stupid for letting them do it TWICE.

Now, That being said, I would like to say that I appreciate the professionalism of the Jeff-Co Deputy that Busted me for being stupid fast in a 65mph zone coming off of the mountain this week.
I Self Identified with my paperwork, he was totally cool, asked if I was. I Said yes, that was that.

[cstone]

You mean the system that was the best ever and now is being taken away from the American people? Taken away by the very ones that are paid to protect it, at the City, State and Federal level?? That system??

Best ever, but not perfect... yup, thats the one. Like anything else, I rarely stand idly by while anyone takes anything of value away from me. We all must decide what we deem the best course of action to protect what we value.

Byte, I read the linked story you posted and it sure sounds like everyone knew that DPD officer was going to cost the taxpayers money in any liability settlement. If I were a taxpayer in Denver, I would expect some answers from the elected officials who control the DPD. I don't think I would get satisfactory answers, but whats new about that.

I'm glad to hear the last officer you dealt with acted professionally. So often we focus on the 1% who cause 99% of the problems. This is true for every occupation and a large issue with any profession that has so much authority. It is why there is so much attention given when any cop, judge, or elected official goes off the deep end.

I think everyone who has a beef with anyone in authority should make themselves heard. Everyone has a boss. Find out who the person's boss is and submit a written complaint. Maybe nothing will happen. But if no one complains, I can pretty much guarantee nothing will happen, and the bad behavior will continue and another innocent person will be victimized.

Call me naive, but I still believe that good people stand up when no one else will. Good people do what they believe is right despite the consequences. YMMV

[OneGuy67]

I've been trying VERY hard to stay quiet on the various threads dealing with law enforcement, but I can't let cstone have to uphold the fight on behalf of us in law enforcement.

Byte, I'm glad you had a positive experience with Jeffco recently, especially given your bias against law enforcement in general.

That being said, most here know I have no love for Denver PD and I believe they have a culture within their agency that needs changing. That isn't going to happen overnight, given the size of the agency. If I was Mayor Elect Hancock, I would immediately:

1. Fire Chief Whitman and hire someone from the outside
2. Change the way the promotion process is conducted for officers Lieutenant and higher are conducted and look for outside officers to compete to fill the higher positions
3. Immediately put in all patrol vehicles GPS and emergency light activated in-vehicle cameras and audio microphones and make it an immediate termination offense if they are disabled or not used
4. Increase the minimimum requirements for hiring standards to be similar to most agencies that surround the city; the ideal officer having a minimum of two years of higher education, military service, be no younger than 25 and be married.
5. End collective bargaining with the PPA. Enact a step program combined with a pay for performance program for any pay raises.
6. Streamline the complaint process and enable the Chief to terminate officers for performance

These measures will start the changes necessary, but they will need to lose a number of the mid and older officers who might not be willing to change.

[Irving]

If I saw a guy that size beating up a man that age, I'm not sure what I'd do. Probably call the police and make a big deal about it. If it got worse, he'd have a gun in his face. I'm not sure what I'd do once he got cocky and flashed his badge though. Probably keep it there. Wasn't there video at this gas station?

Oh by the way, I think he kind of looks like Brock Lesner. I bet all his douche bag friends encourage him to do so.

[OneGuy67]

Whoops! I put my comments on the wrong thread. They were supposed to go on the Denver lawsuit thread.

Oh well.

This particular officer will be fired and most likely charged. Hopefully, the plea arrangement will require the surrender of his POST cert.

[Byte Stryke]

Oh, Don't get me wrong Oneguy67, I am still all about the cop-bashing. especially ones that don't pony up for beers.
[LOL]


I kid... The problem as I see it is that the LEO Community is generally held to a different standard, not a higher one.
If I screw the pooch, I am sooo on my own.
If a Cop does it, there is a paid vacation pending investigation, warm cookies and Hugs all around.
If I am found guilty... Buttseks hotel
If a cop is guilty, they get an administrative action and something in their permanent record.[Eek3]

WTF?
Really?

I agree with your proposed changes with one addition.

Equality. When a cop makes a Mistake its one thing, when a cop betrays the trust of the people and the oath, They need to go to jail/prison like any other citizen.
No better, no worse.

[OneGuy67]

Oh, Don't get me wrong Oneguy67, I am still all about the cop-bashing. especially ones that don't pony up for beers.
[LOL]


I kid... The problem as I see it is that the LEO Community is generally held to a different standard, not a higher one.
If I screw the pooch, I am sooo on my own.
If a Cop does it, there is a paid vacation pending investigation, warm cookies and Hugs all around.
If I am found guilty... Buttseks hotel
If a cop is guilty, they get an administrative action and something in their permanent record.[Eek3]

WTF?
Really?

I agree with your proposed changes with one addition.

Equality. When a cop makes a Mistake its one thing, when a cop betrays the trust of the people and the oath, They need to go to jail/prison like any other citizen.
No better, no worse.

Name the place and time, I will make good on the beers! [Beer]

I don't agree with your assessment. It may be more accurate with Denver PD, but not for the majority of the agencies here in Colorado. I know of a number of officers fired and charged with crimes over their actions, both on AND off duty. Officers should be held to a higher standard and I think we can both agree to that.

For most officers, if they are arrested, their career is done. No other agency is going to hire them once they are terminated from their agency (Denver PD is the exception to this, hence my list). If you are arrested for something done outside of your employment, your employer is most likely not going to fire you and it isn't going to stop your employment somewhere else (offense dependent, of course).

I would add another bullet to my list:

7. Demand the DA's office to not be afraid to charge officers criminally when they violate the laws.

[Byte Stryke]

7. Demand the DA's office to not be afraid to charge officers criminally when they violate the laws.


+1 Abso-friggin-lutely

Honestly I know not all departments are exactly like DPD.
too many are heading that way, its like a virus... and this ass-hat, unfortunately is the proof.

Too often we hear of officers in whatever department in the news... I get it, shit happens. But then we start getting the news people saying stuff like "He has a long history of <Insert Abuse Here>. IA records show he was put on <whatever administrative action> last year for a similar crime."

I promise you this... if I caused an accident and the PD knew it, and knew where I was.. I sure as shit wouldn't be free to go beat up old men at the Costco.

And I do agree it is a damned shame that shitbags that abuse the public trust have helped to create the rift between the Citizenry and the LEO Community in general.

And for the Good Guys, Ya'll need to clean your house.
[Police]

[Ranger]

1. Fire Chief Whitman and hire someone from the outside


Partially done. Hancock already asked Whitman to step down, the problem is that he's going to put a croney in there - but Whitman is out.

[OneGuy67]

Honestly I know not all departments are exactly like DPD. too many are heading that way, its like a virus... and this ass-hat, unfortunately is the proof.

And for the Good Guys, Ya'll need to clean your house.
[Police]

Not true. He was criminally charged by the agency where the violation occured and his agency suspended him. The DA will ultimately decide what happens to him and his agency will most likely terminate him, given the aggression issue.

And, I have been cleaning house here in Colorado. I've gotten a number of cops charged and terminated, or had them wisely see the error of their actions and see the need for them to find other employment in some other field. I am proud of my profession and I do not want those who tarnish the badge to bring everyone down.

Unfortunately, I cannot do anything to change DPD. You, the citizenry, will have to be the one who directs that change by contacting your city representatives and complaining, contacting the DPD supervision and complaining and contacting the mayor and complaining...over and over until they get the message or until some changes take place. It will take years, and you will have to be prepared for that and settle down for the long haul.

[cstone]

Not true. He was criminally charged by the agency where the violation occured and his agency suspended him. The DA will ultimately decide what happens to him and his agency will most likely terminate him, given the aggression issue.

...

Unfortunately, I cannot do anything to change DPD. You, the citizenry, will have to be the one who directs that change by contacting your city representatives and complaining, contacting the DPD supervision and complaining and contacting the mayor and complaining...over and over until they get the message or until some changes take place. It will take years, and you will have to be prepared for that and settle down for the long haul.

This is the yeoman's work of a concerned citizenry. It may sound contrite and naive, but the government is "We the People." If you don't like it, then work for change. It may be hard to believe, but there are citizens who worked for and want the change the President promised. If you are not one of those citizens then work for a different kind of change.

Thank you OneGuy67 for the work you are doing.

If you see something that is wrong, say something or do something. Just ranting about it will not produce anything but a negative attitude and discontent. Speak up loudly and often enough to the elected officials, media, and civil servants, and someone may just listen. Then again, if you want real change in any organization, DPD, state legislature, Congress, etc... then work your way inside the belly of the beast and make whatever changes you can from within. It is a slow and often frustrating process. You will have company though. There are good people everywhere, and I like to think we out number the bad people [Coffee]

[sniper7]

I grew up with him. my sister and his are best friends. We went to high school together played football together etc etc. He has always been that size. No roids just big and worked out a lot. Always strong and aggressive.

Always ignorant comments made by people that don't know any different. I haven't talked to his about it to find out what really happened.
if he fucked up then he should pay for it but not get ass raped daily for 25 years....

[cstone]

Judges tend to shy away from the "ass raping" sentence. It is often overturned as a violation of the 8th Amendment.

I'm glad someone on this board knows him. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I have spoken to and dealt with the victim several times while getting gas at that Costco. There are always more than one side to every story. At the moment, Hughes' case is being tried on the internet and through the local media. Ultimately his case will be decided by either a judge, jury of his peers or settled through plea agreement.

Whatever the outcome of the judicial action for Hughes, he probably does not have a future in law enforcement, but that would just be my opinion.

[Irving]

Turning your vehicle off at the station is a private property issue, not one of law. That guy is a douche bag and took it too far.

[Colorado Luckydog]

Turning your vehicle off at the station is a private property issue, not one of law. That guy is a douche bag and took it too far.

X2 It will be interesteing to see how his other charges work out. Sounds like he caused the wreck and just left the scene. He didn't even stop to see if anyone was hurt. Just took off in fis Ford Mustang police car. I would bet a dollar to a doughnut hole that there are a lot more stories that we haven't even heard about because his victims are to scared to say shit.

Maybe 25 years of ass rapings was out of line. He probably should only get 10 to 12, but he will probably just get fired.

[OneGuy67]

I will say this about the incident: I also occasionally do not turn my vehicle off when pumping gas and I would be irritated with some guy trying to shut the gas off on me because he didn't like that.

I wouldn't get physical with him though, no matter his age and I wouldn't badge him over it.

[Colorado Luckydog]

I will say this about the incident: I also occasionally do not turn my vehicle off when pumping gas and I would be irritated with some guy trying to shut the gas off on me because he didn't like that.

When the old guy asked you nicely to turn off the engine, you would have turned it off......Not beat the living shit out of some old dude that can't protect himself and then flashed your badge and drove off.

[Irving]

I will say this about the incident: I also occasionally do not turn my vehicle off when pumping gas and I would be irritated with some guy trying to shut the gas off on me because he didn't like that.



Me too, but if I ever fuck up an old man over it, everyone on here better call me a douche bag.