View Full Version : Which Barrel
bobbyfairbanks
06-17-2011, 11:57
I am building another AR. I am trying to decide what barrel to get. I have been thinking about getting a Noveske. I do know I want these specs
16"
Carbine gas system
5.56
What do you guys recommend
Great-Kazoo
06-17-2011, 17:23
i'm the odd ball guy. I say buy an affordable one vs, "Name" recognition and shott the piss out of it. The highest name brand bbl i have owned is a BCM and it shoots (or i do) the same grouping with the same ammo as any other bbl i have owned with the same twist rate. I shoot COM and can group them off the bench fairly tight. off hand all are within a 12x12 steel plate no matter what distance i shoot. Most of my shooting is 50-200 yards. iron sights, eotech or burris ar-332.
YMMV
While I have had my share of cheaper barrels and they are perfectly serviceable pieces, I can definitely tell a difference in accuracy with the better barrels. I have been very pleased with barrels from Daniel Defense and Bravo Company. The ones I had from those companies were of the hammer forged variety. If resale in the future is of any consideration in your thought process you will have a much easier time selling a "name brand" barrel versus an "off brand" one.
Great-Kazoo
06-17-2011, 21:33
While I have had my share of cheaper barrels and they are perfectly serviceable pieces, I can definitely tell a difference in accuracy with the better barrels. I have been very pleased with barrels from Daniel Defense and Bravo Company. The ones I had from those companies were of the hammer forged variety. If resale in the future is of any consideration in your thought process you will have a much easier time selling a "name brand" barrel versus an "off brand" one.
who would you say is an "Off brand" besides a blatent import? my dpms rocked until i went SBR then it was bushy 10.5 to a 14.5 then a 14.5 DTI, now a BCM 10.5
When J&T Dist. was first offering their Ar15 kits (less lower) for $375.00 the bbl was not marked but advertised as a "wilson" mfg. they were semi-flamed for "quality". Unless they are stating a specific MOA from their bbls again IMHO you will find minimal variation in accuracy. Granted there are some lemons out there.
I know Stag Arms had bbls that people i shoot with first hand had , to them, accuracy issues. Stag informed them their expectation was .75 moa across the board using X ammo.
A member here had issues with his DPMS 16" bbl. DPMS told him they had no accuracy issues using Sierra Match King 69gr. As a hand loader sure high end bbls are the
way to maximize it's potential. Shooters running off the shelf ammo again, YMMV.
How about this, what are your expectations regarding overall performance?
You shooting off the bench wanting one ragged hole, or able to engage your target any style and score "hits" ?
who would you say is an "Off brand" besides a blatent import? my dpms rocked until i went SBR then it was bushy 10.5 to a 14.5 then a 14.5 DTI, now a BCM 10.5
When J&T Dist. was first offering their Ar15 kits (less lower) for $375.00 the bbl was not marked but advertised as a "wilson" mfg. they were semi-flamed for "quality". Unless they are stating a specific MOA from their bbls again IMHO you will find minimal variation in accuracy. Granted there are some lemons out there.
I know Stag Arms had bbls that people i shoot with first hand had , to them, accuracy issues. Stag informed them their expectation was .75 moa across the board using X ammo.
A member here had issues with his DPMS 16" bbl. DPMS told him they had no accuracy issues using Sierra Match King 69gr. As a hand loader sure high end bbls are the
way to maximize it's potential. Shooters running off the shelf ammo again, YMMV.
How about this, what are your expectations regarding overall performance?
You shooting off the bench wanting one ragged hole, or able to engage your target any style and score "hits" ?
I started my post by saying that lower priced barrels are perfectly serviceable. When I mentioned "off brand" I was mostly referring to barrels of unknown or unmarked manufacturer and was referring to the resale value of such barrels compared to those with a pedigree of some sort.
bobbyfairbanks
06-17-2011, 22:38
I am a hand loader and do want good accuracy but more important to me is the barrel life. I would rather pay a little more and have the barrel last me a few thousand rds more.
I am a hand loader and do want good accuracy but more important to me is the barrel life. I would rather pay a little more and have the barrel last me a few thousand rds more.
Unless you are retired and have plenty of time and money to shoot very often it would be really difficult to wear out a barrel on a semi-auto rifle. I had a friend who probably had over 20,000 rounds on his rifle and it was still shooting quite well with the original Bushmaster barrel. If I truly planned to shoot a rifle enough to wear a barrel out I would probably buy the cheapest barrel I could find since I would be replacing it once or twice anyways.
bobbyfairbanks
06-17-2011, 23:17
Hum Barrels wear out and unless you only shoot at bottles 20 feet away from you you will notice it.
Great-Kazoo
06-18-2011, 04:06
Unless you are retired and have plenty of time and money to shoot very often it would be really difficult to wear out a barrel on a semi-auto rifle. I had a friend who probably had over 20,000 rounds on his rifle and it was still shooting quite well with the original Bushmaster barrel. If I truly planned to shoot a rifle enough to wear a barrel out I would probably buy the cheapest barrel I could find since I would be replacing it once or twice anyways.
agreed.
It really depends what you are looking for.
Want excellent accuracy out to 300+ meters? Get a stainless-steel barrel, something like Noveske, WOA, and others (many choices). WOA is one of the best values in Stainless barrels I've been told.
Want something with long life? Any of the Chrome-lined barrels will have a long life at the expense of accuracy. BCM, DD, LMT, there are a lot of good choices for the money.
Combatmatt
06-22-2011, 11:36
black hole weaponry. [Coffee]
buckshotbarlow
07-26-2011, 21:00
nummy bbls and they shoot gud 2.
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