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funkfool
06-23-2011, 09:28
I got this from the GOA email this AM...

How I Learned The Truth About The State
June 23, 2011 by Stefano R. Mugnaini


I’ll never forget my last visit to lovely Hinesville, Ga.
For it was there that I learned a valuable lesson, one I shall never
forget: In a police state, we’re all criminals.
Think about it: How many laws have you broken today? This week? This
month? Have you changed lanes without a turn signal? Exceeded the posted
speed limit? Hired a neighborhood kid to cut your grass and then paid
him under the table? Engaged in commerce with someone who is in the
country illegally? Bought lemonade from an unlicensed “dealer” in the
form of an innocent child?
In Hinesville, I was accosted for “animal cruelty.” We were traveling
to visit family in the southwestern part of the state. In the car were
my wife, my two young daughters and our two dogs, Methuselah and
Garibaldi.
The older of my two daughters had a rash, so we stopped at Walmart to
get her some antihistamine cream. We emerged from the store, less than
20 minutes later, to be greeted by an animal-control officer and the
stereotypical police officer, complete with a Napoleon complex and
cheesy mustache.
You see, we left the dogs in the car, with the windows down and a
dish of water to drink. A noble citizen watched us emerge from the car
and promptly called animal control. An agent was dispatched to rescue
our persecuted beasts.
I was informed that I was being charged with criminal animal cruelty,
subject to appear in court at a later date. Apparently, the fact that
my dogs were panting was proof positive that they were at death’s door.
Never mind that they always pant, even in an air-conditioned house.
The officer informed me that I was going to have to take the dogs to
the vet to be checked out before we would be allowed to continue on our
way. I am reasonably sure that such a request is outside of their
official authority, but I agreed to comply upon the premise that they
would drop all charges when the dogs were given a clean bill of health.
As I suspected, they balked at this idea.
I tried another tactic. I calmly explained to the animal-control
officer that we were not from the area and asked if he could simply levy
some kind of fine, rather than require a court appearance. This is when
things got fun. “Animal cruelty is a warrant offense,” I was told. It
requires a court appearance and carries the threat of jail time. Then I
made a crucial mistake; I asked a logical question of a law-enforcement
officer.
“At what point,” I asked, “was I in violation of the law? When I left
the car? Five minutes later? Ten minutes?” I wanted a specific
definition for the cruelty in which I was supposedly engaged.
He couldn’t answer, but the heroic policeman — let’s just call him
“Vic Maldonado” — sprang into action. This innocent question left him no
choice but to pull out both his baton and Taser and charge toward me.
When I raised my hands as if to say, “I am unarmed, and that is an
unnecessary show of force,” I was ordered to turn around and place my
hands on the police cruiser. I asked why; no answer was given, except to
radio for backup and claim that an officer had been “assaulted.”
To this day, I am glad that he didn’t take the additional step of
searching my car, wherein were two legal, loaded pistols. I shudder to
think what might have happened.
I was cuffed and escorted to the back of the squad car. I sat in the
car for half an hour, while my wife and children sat and watched. When
the backup arrived, I watched and listened through the open front window
as “Maldonado” reenacted the confrontation. I was particularly
interested in the part where I physically slammed the officer against
the car and he somehow found the restraint to not shoot or Taser me.
Eventually, I was let out of the car and cited for disorderly
conduct. The animal-control officer apologized for harassing me and
promised to see to it that the judge dropped all animal-cruelty charges.
He was clearly shell-shocked by the escalation he had witnessed. The
fine for my “disorderly conduct” was $300, and the court date was set
for 7:15 a.m.
This made it reasonably certain that, even if I chose to fight the
charge, it would require an overnight stay, the hiring of a lawyer and
the incurrence of expenses far exceeding the cost of the fine. I think
this was not a coincidence but rather a calculated way of raising funds.
I intended to pay the fine in legal-tender pennies, but was dissuaded
by my father-in-law, who informed me that a Georgia judge had held
someone in contempt of court, subject to another fine, for just such an
offense.
Melodramatic prison movies always use corny lines like “prison has a
way of changing a man.” I didn’t experience a prison visit, but my brush
with the law certainly changed me. The last shred of the veil of
naïveté was lifted; the myth of “Officer Friendly” was banished forever.
What was once merely a vague sense of distrust has given way to a much
stronger feeling: I hate the state.
The irony in all this? My family and dogs sat in a hot car for more
than an hour while the police harassed me. Apparently, animal cruelty
can be perpetrated only by citizens, not by the soldiers of the crown.
–Stefano R. Mugnaini

Ranger
06-23-2011, 09:39
Wow, if that story is true then what a sad state of affairs.

Ronin13
06-23-2011, 10:45
HOLY S***! That would probably take every ounce of strength in my body to hold me back from grabbing my gun and popping those guys. I'm glad I've never dealt with any LEOs in CO that pull crap like that. I take my dogs with me all the time and because 99.9% of businesses don't allow pets to enter their building I leave them in the car. If some... arg... called Animal Control on me and they showed up to give me a mandatory summons I'd calmly ask "If the store does not allow me to bring my dogs in with me, and it's cruelty to leave them in the car, what am I supposed to do?" Something like that might just warrant the consultation of an attorney and fight the case. Especially if the cop turns out to be lying sack of shit and claim that you assaulted him when you never even touched him. And x10 if your wife and children are present and viable witnesses to your not assaulting the cop.

soco11
06-23-2011, 10:50
It is hard to know whether the story is true, but it certainly seems to be the case that increasingly the police are being used as a militarized arm of enforcement for a government which insists on its rights to take its citizens "under its wing" and teach them how to live...and force them to change if they don't agree with the new state philosophy. The police have certainly gone from the motto "To serve and protect" to something far different. It is extraordinarily worrying to see what is happening, and at some time in some way I think we have to reassert ourselves as citizens against the state and its militarized police force to take back our rights. Whether that can be done by voting or not, I just don't know any more.

Ronin13
06-23-2011, 11:57
It is hard to know whether the story is true, but it certainly seems to be the case that increasingly the police are being used as a militarized arm of enforcement for a government which insists on its rights to take its citizens "under its wing" and teach them how to live...and force them to change if they don't agree with the new state philosophy. The police have certainly gone from the motto "To serve and protect" to something far different. It is extraordinarily worrying to see what is happening, and at some time in some way I think we have to reassert ourselves as citizens against the state and its militarized police force to take back our rights. Whether that can be done by voting or not, I just don't know any more.

I would like to hold out hope that voting can change things, but have you ever been in a crowded room where there are 200 people having 60 conversations? That's a lot like what we have in America now. All these people have different groups with different voices, so it just sounds like a bunch of noise. I saw just a taste of what the ideal America was on May 1st of this year outside the White House when hundreds had the same voice "USA!" Unfortunately that is one small moment of unity amid a larger timeline of different voices. I doubt we will ever be able to vote our power back into our hands, Jefferson was right, the best way to preserve liberty if by force, and the government needs to be reminded that this country was founded on revolution and that spirit still lives inside it's people.

Byte Stryke
06-23-2011, 15:04
I would like to hold out hope that voting can change things, but have you ever been in a crowded room where there are 200 people having 60 conversations? That's a lot like what we have in America now. All these people have different groups with different voices, so it just sounds like a bunch of noise. I saw just a taste of what the ideal America was on May 1st of this year outside the White House when hundreds had the same voice "USA!" Unfortunately that is one small moment of unity amid a larger timeline of different voices. I doubt we will ever be able to vote our power back into our hands, Jefferson was right, the best way to preserve liberty if by force, and the government needs to be reminded that this country was founded on revolution and that spirit still lives inside some of it's people.

Fixed

Ronin13
06-23-2011, 15:36
Thanks Byte, I forgot for a second the delineation between rational thinkers and those feeble wimps that voted for Brak Osama.

Zundfolge
06-24-2011, 20:24
Reminds me of the old saying:

A conservative is a liberal that's been mugged.
A libertarian is a conservative that's been arrested.



Just remember folks, "animal cruelty" is a FELONY in Colorado.

Ronin13
06-27-2011, 09:35
Reminds me of the old saying:

A conservative is a liberal that's been mugged.
A libertarian is a conservative that's been arrested.



Just remember folks, "animal cruelty" is a FELONY in Colorado.

True, but I was explaining this to my mom, since she and I both take our dogs with us a lot of the time whenever we go somewhere. Leaving them in the car, with adequate ventilation (windows down) and water shouldn't constitute animal cruelty, should it? Otherwise, if I'm stopping off at the store before taking them to the dog park or hiking, where else would I leave them if they aren't allowed inside the nice food-filled, air conditioned grocery store? I'd like to hear that animal control officer's ideas, can't leave them in the car, can't take them inside, and if you tie them to a pole and someone either gets bitten or dog-naps your pets it's kinda your own problem....WTF?

Zundfolge
06-27-2011, 10:22
Thing is, had the person in the original story left another PERSON with the dogs, it wouldn't be animal cruelty ... which is why the law is so stupid.

Honestly it bugs me when I see people leaving their dogs in the car with the windows rolled up on a warm to hot day, but this cop clearly over reacted (and based on his over reaction, I don't think he should be allowed to wear a badge).