View Full Version : Why can't UPS follow instructions?!?
Byte Stryke
06-28-2011, 11:06
Quite Simply:
DO NOT LEAVE ON PORCH, PACKAGE MUST BE SIGNED FOR.
1K 5.56 XM193s gone... no one knows where.
Why you might ask?
They left them on the porch, no one signed for them.
[Bang]
newracer
06-28-2011, 11:07
Tell the shipper you never received your item.
n8tive97
06-28-2011, 11:09
That really pisses me off too. It has happened to me a couple times using UPS. I always ask the shipper to use FedEx. UPS customer service sucks as well, good luck!
Byte Stryke
06-28-2011, 11:24
Ive contacted Surplusammo.com. They are getting in touch of UPS.
still, the point being that if you cannot get a neighbor to sign for it or do the "Sorry we missed you" Tag, why would you put the babies at risk by leaving Military grade assault rifle ammunition where the children and criminals can get to it?
CrufflerSteve
06-28-2011, 11:25
UPS has ways at getting back at you for doing a claim. I had an 'adult signature' required package left on my porch and swiped years ago in the Springs. It was milsurp ammo in some weird caliber so it wasn't as bad as a firearm. I complained and did a claim and from then on all my packages were signature only no matter what the box said. I even had to go to the depot to pick up a pair of sneakers.
Steve
ghettodub
06-28-2011, 11:27
I always have good luck with UPS. Now, Fedex is a different story...
They screw shit up all the time...
CMP_5.56
06-28-2011, 11:28
I would rather have to go pick up sneakers than have ammo or an upper or something of that nature stolen off my porch!
Byte Stryke
06-28-2011, 11:31
I wonder what would happen if this "leaked" to the most liberal press that a thousand rounds of military grade assault rifle ammunition was left on a porch, unaccounted for, by UPS.
Hey, If you cant beat or shoot a Liberal, turn them on themselves!
[ROFL1]
DeusExMachina
06-28-2011, 11:32
UPS has always been a bitch about shipping ammo with me...no idea why they'd leave it. It seems I always have to go to Commerce Shitty and pick up packages. Not sure why I even pay them to "deliver" stuff to me.
trout_champ
06-28-2011, 11:47
I have always had pretty good results with UPS.
FedEx kinda got on my nerves this week though. I am expecting a package and it has been sitting at the Pueblo FedEx location since Saturday night and was expecting it Monday since it was here. When I checked the tracking number yesterday it said it was still in Pueblo. I called and they said that had to hold it until the delivery date which is today.
DeusExMachina
06-28-2011, 11:49
I have always had pretty good results with UPS.
FedEx kinda got on my nerves this week though. I am expecting a package and it has been sitting at the Pueblo FedEx location since Saturday night and was expecting it Monday since it was here. When I checked the tracking number yesterday it said it was still in Pueblo. I called and they said that had to hold it until the delivery date which is today.
UPS does it too. If a package is early, they will hold on to it until its on time (or late).
Byte Stryke
06-28-2011, 11:49
Problem with fed-ex... try shipping Ammo.
[Mad]
UPS never, EVER rings my bell even, just dumps everything on the porch (I actually had a porch monkey once, a stuffed monkey that was left on my porch by UPS...porch monkey for life...taking it back...). Anyway, I can't stand them. I've been very lucky that nothing has disappeared as I have computers delivered to my house quite regularly. Fortunately I work from home most of the time and my house tells me when someone is at the door (really).
I have a friend who is a driver for ups and he tells me that ups has a deal with google earth and when a claim is filed they can track the delivery time down and look at the satellite image at the location and see if the driver left it there. If he did and there was no sig required you will not get paid, in your situation where there was a sig required they probably will still fight you and it will probably take 6 months to get it figured out. I really don't know how much truth there is to the satellite image but if it is I don't see how that would be legal.
BPTactical
06-28-2011, 12:11
I think what your driver buddy was referring to is the fact that GPS is in every truck of UPS's and they can verify a trucks location at a given date/time.
Byte I feel your frustration, although I have not been ripped off I did have a firearm that was sent back to me by the manufacturer(Century) and dumbass UPS just left it on the front porch, never knocked or range the bell. Big letters all over the box "Adult Signature Required"
I was appalled.
If you get a reorder Guy let me know-you can have them deliver it to my place.
Maybe it arrived, maybe it didnt[Muaha]
blacklabel
06-28-2011, 13:04
I've had UPS leave 2K rounds of 7.62x39 on my porch as well as a complete upper. Other times I've had to go pick up a universal remote control.
I try to always ship through Fedex if it's something that I can't live without.
Fentonite
06-28-2011, 13:10
Seems like it varies by driver. Our UPS guy (Edgewater) is awesome. He even likes our mean dogs. I certainly don't think it's company-wide...
Zundfolge
06-28-2011, 13:14
UPS dropped a C&R rifle I ordered on my neighbors porch.
I called them and told them their driver just committed a FELONY ... they said they'd talk to him.
Good thing they didn't drop it to the neighbor on the other side of me ... at that time I lived next to a schizophrenic that was constantly yelling at the imaginary SWAT team that had his house surrounded at 2am. I can't imagine what he'd have done with a VZ24, but you can imagine it wouldn't have been good.
I have a friend who is a driver for ups and he tells me that ups has a deal with google earth and when a claim is filed they can track the delivery time down and look at the satellite image at the location and see if the driver left it there. If he did and there was no sig required you will not get paid, in your situation where there was a sig required they probably will still fight you and it will probably take 6 months to get it figured out. I really don't know how much truth there is to the satellite image but if it is I don't see how that would be legal.
Uhhh.. bullshit.. Do you have any idea how many satellites that would require?
I think what your driver buddy was referring to is the fact that GPS is in every truck of UPS's and they can verify a trucks location at a given date/time.
Byte I feel your frustration, although I have not been ripped off I did have a firearm that was sent back to me by the manufacturer(Century) and dumbass UPS just left it on the front porch, never knocked or range the bell. Big letters all over the box "Adult Signature Required"
I was appalled.
If you get a reorder Guy let me know-you can have them deliver it to my place.
Maybe it arrived, maybe it didnt[Muaha]
It doesn't matter WTF the sticker says on the box.. if they did not expressly mark 'adult signature required' when they filled out the shipping info then it is NOT linked w/ the tracking number and will NOT force the driver to collect the signature. The drivers do not give a shit what the package says on it.. after seeing hundreds of them a day you don't care.. I still hate boxes.
Byte what exactly does it say when you track it? 'Delivered - Front door'?
Some UPS and FedEx deliverers don't even bother rining our doorbell thesedays.
Sorry to hear byte, that sucks. I am lucky enough to have made friends with all three of my different delivery service drivers. I have had my UPS guy drop off a package to me after he was off work and driving home because I wasn't there to get the package the first time. I asked how he managed to pull something like that off, he just said "don't worry, I took care of it", he knew I was really wanting that package ASAP. Anyway, as I said, that sucks byte, hope they take care of it for you.
I wonder what would happen if this "leaked" to the most liberal press that a thousand rounds of military grade assault rifle ammunition was left on a porch, unaccounted for, by UPS.
Hey, If you cant beat or shoot a Liberal, turn them on themselves!
[ROFL1]
That would be bad. Then UPS wouldn't ship ammo anymore. I prefer it when they leave it on the porch because then I get it. Instead of the hit and run knock and sticker thing they normally do. For a while there my UPS driver was a friend of the family and he would open the door and leave it inside the house. Couldn't we all use a good guy like that? I would trust the UPS guy over leaving it outside anyway. He isn't going to risk his well paid job over stealing anything inside the doorway any way.
Mobat555
06-28-2011, 15:08
Sorry to hear that Byte, I once had an Xbox delivered that went missing. The DHL driver used the last person who signed (for a completely different package at a different unit in our building) as the signature. By the end of the day his manager was not pleased with him to say the least.
I am lucky enough to have packages sent to work (when someone is always available to receive them). I just don't get into details of whats in the box. If they get really nosy I tell them its weights for working out.
Sorry to hear that Byte, I once had an Xbox delivered that went missing. The DHL driver used the last person who signed (for a completely different package at a different unit in our building) as the signature. By the end of the day his manager was not pleased with him to say the least.
I am lucky enough to have packages sent to work (when someone is always available to receive them). I just don't get into details of whats in the box. If they get really nosy I tell them its weights for working out.
I always have stuff delivered to my office... I don't trust things like ammo and expensive parts to just be left on my doorstep. But sounds like some of these delivery services aren't all that great. If you have something like ammo, which, correct me if I'm wrong you have to pay not only for the ammo and shipping but also a hazmat fee, and it is failed to be delivered to you, can't you do something about it to get compensated or something?
I have a friend who is a driver for ups and he tells me that ups has a deal with google earth and when a claim is filed they can track the delivery time down and look at the satellite image at the location and see if the driver left it there. If he did and there was no sig required you will not get paid, in your situation where there was a sig required they probably will still fight you and it will probably take 6 months to get it figured out. I really don't know how much truth there is to the satellite image but if it is I don't see how that would be legal.
Yeeeeah, No. The board they carry for signatures won't let them scan the package off their truck unless the driver is close enough to the package's destination.
My regular UPS guy here at the shop is pretty good. The one at my dad's house is awful. You see, he's afraid of dogs (my dad has a Doberman that's the world's biggest pansy...), so his idea of delivery is to stand about 15 feet outside the fence and throw stuff as hard as he can up the driveway...
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jerrymrc
06-28-2011, 16:39
Fed Ex once left a Rifle on my porch. Adult sig, in person, yada,yada. I was lucky it was still there when I got home 5 hours after it was delivered.[Rant2]
The driver had scribbled something on the pad and left it.
Byte Stryke
06-28-2011, 17:52
I have a friend who is a driver for ups and he tells me that ups has a deal with google earth and when a claim is filed they can track the delivery time down and look at the satellite image at the location and see if the driver left it there. If he did and there was no sig required you will not get paid, in your situation where there was a sig required they probably will still fight you and it will probably take 6 months to get it figured out. I really don't know how much truth there is to the satellite image but if it is I don't see how that would be legal.
The Joy of Visa...
Already contested and the charge has been reverted to "Pending Investigation"
Anytime you order something and you do not receive it, you may contest the charge with Visa/(my Bank name).
I hate the fact that it will go back to surplusammo, but hey... I'm not paying for another mans mistake.
and the page says "Left at porch"
Don't bother calling them. I think you should lawyer up right now!
Byte Stryke
06-28-2011, 21:09
Don't bother calling them. I think you should lawyer up right now!
I did one better
I called my Bank.
:D
68Charger
06-28-2011, 22:00
This is all about the local driver, IMHO...
we are on a first-name basis with our UPS driver- when my wife had her store, he would drop off packages at her store that were for our home address and vice-versa... as long as we were ok with that... he'd call ahead is he thought he was off our schedule, and a sig was required... and generally worked with us like we were real people... had a big huge tin of doggie biscuits to make things go smoother at our house... (we have 6 dogs, some over 100#)
the Fedex drivers around here can't find our house, and drop the packages off where-ever half the time... granted, house labels are virtually non-existent,and the house numbering is confusing (just ask a few guys that came to the AK build party) we wind up having to play detective to figure out where it was left... frustrating, but since we have honest neighbors, the only time we've ever lost any mail it's USPS (our mailbox is by the hwy, and almost a mile from our house... they found some it it dumped in Colorado Springs. so now we have a PO box for anything impotent...
Half Live
06-28-2011, 22:08
I have stuff delivered to my work. We get daily fed ex/express and ups drop off and pick ups. And everything is ALWAYS signed for.
I had multiple cases dropped on a neighbor's doorstep by UPS (thankfully he was the kind of guy to bring it over and laugh about the ammo fairy coming by his house) and apparently USPS doesn't own a single map that details where I live because every package that has been sent to me besides one I've had to go pick up. Attempted delivery my ass.
I can't stand UPS. I've had important items that required shipment that I am waiting at the house for and around 5:00 I happen to check the front porch to see a box sitting there. No door bell, no signature... nothing. I wasted my entire day waiting on a package that was likely there around lunch time. How hard is it to at least push a damn door bell button after you chuck the box onto the porch?
battle_sight_zero
06-29-2011, 10:00
A couple years ago I had 3000 rounds of Austrian MIL 7.61 show up my house. I track all my shipments so I know the minute they show up at my doorstep and I drive from my office which is 5 minutes away to get it in house. In this case I got the ammo in my house right away.
However I had to drive by my house 10 minutes later on a emergency reponse call and I see an older man with a white truck outside my house. He appears to be looking around my porch furniture and front door. I had alot of porch furniture at the time thus if a crate was behind it might not be seen from the street.I can't stop because I have to get to an emergency call. However I drive by the guy record his license plate and honk and point my finger at him. I also had my dispatcher call the local police.
Anyways it was suspicious because it appeared to me that this guy was looking for this $1600 ammo shipment. The plate came back to a man lived 25 miles away and I had no clue who he was. Since there was no crime according to the police they would not investigate further.
I suspect to this day that this man was tipped off by someone in UPS that my ammo would be on the doorstep. Heck maybe someone from AMMOMAN provided this clown a link to when the package would arrive. With all the thefts from door steps of packages I suspect that there is alot crimes being commited involving UPS and FEDEX deliveries at door stops and I would bet that it is a pretty elaborate ring at that.
jscwerve
06-29-2011, 10:36
They just left my new replacement phone on the porch yesterday. Had that been stolen my phone company would hae charged my $400 for it. At least they could have put it between the screen door and the inside door.
Since there was no crime according to the police they would not investigate further.
well holy fucking shit.
Bailey Guns
06-29-2011, 17:17
Probably all ex-cops that work at UPS/FedEx that just want to hassle innocent folks by screwing up the package deliveries.
Byte Stryke
06-29-2011, 18:32
Probably all ex-cops that work at UPS/FedEx that just want to hassle innocent folks by screwing up the package deliveries.
Pass that shit to the Left, yo
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