I don't understand this one.

[fitz19d]

Caught this little blurb. Thought it interesting. I'm not sure why he would have decided to do that, I fail to see any real practical use given his environment and again there is the danger of tracers lighting things on fire sometimes.

As far as the injured lady, it doesn't really cover if issued ammo wouldn't have fragmented. But because he went outside of what was approved obviously sets up more liability issues.

http://thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/07/daniel-zimmerman/denver-pd-officer-fired-for-using-unauthorized-tracer-rounds/#more-54099

[Byte Stryke]

simple: violation of company/department policy.

it wouldn't be any different if you were caught using the company car on a drag strip or if you got caught using the company computer to make reservations for your vacation flight/hotel.

policy is policy


man simply made an error in judgement

[clublights]

Tho it does not say it in the article posted ...


it's my understanding that he was also not qualified on the AR...

I was about 1.5 blocks away when this happened... lucky for me he was shooting the OTHER direction ...

[Irving]

I don't understand why he would have been using tracer rounds. Why do that?

Also, why was he still missing if he was using tracers? I hope his buddies laughed at him.

[BigMat]

The only non-.mil application of tracer rounds I have heard that made sense beyond "they look cool" is for the last few rounds in a mag or at a determined point, like 5th from the bottom, just so the shooter has an idea that they are running low.

[fitz19d]

Sorry, was confused at him rather than actually not sure why he was fired.

Big +1 @ bigmat who summed up what I was thinking pretty much.

[Ronin13]

The only non-.mil application of tracer rounds I have heard that made sense beyond "they look cool" is for the last few rounds in a mag or at a determined point, like 5th from the bottom, just so the shooter has an idea that they are running low.

I understand heat of the moment and all, but in my training and experience the best way to gauge how many rounds you have left is knowing how many you are carrying in a mag and how many you have fired so far... unless you're doing suppressing fire it's not that hard. Training, training, training.

[CrufflerSteve]

It does sound like a fair firing. I assume Denver has standard issue rounds for their service guns. This gives a bit of a liability shield since those official rounds probably have all sorts of published specs.

I don't think this is cop bashing at all. It was an employer/employee issue. As Byte Stryke said you can't use the company car at a drag strip.

As far as his missing with all rounds and injuring a bystander with frags from the rounds - right on for Training, training, training.

Steve

[Hoosier]

This is neat for counting shots

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d3f_1296170711

H.

[BigMat]

This is neat for counting shots

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d3f_1296170711

H.


That just made me want an MP5K...more.

[colocowboy01]

Hoosier, that would be a cool toy to have around.