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I need help, my motorcycle is in a impound lot in golden. My wife can go get it out tomorrow but I can't get off work. Can somebody with a truck or trailer help a fellow shooter out by going down with her to get it and take it to my house in lakewood. I will pay what you think is fair to help me out. It's already a lot of money and I dont want it to add up over the weekend. I don't trust her to be able to strap it down securely. Please help me out
Could a guy just drive it to your house? It would be easier and more fun[Muaha] Prolly would get a few volunteers too.
I wish, there's no plates or ins
trlcavscout
07-07-2011, 18:05
If I was off I would. What the hell's it doing there?
Mobat555
07-07-2011, 18:15
How heavy is the bike? when is she going?
Byte Stryke
07-07-2011, 18:22
PM Sent.
I only need details
does it run
what, who and where and when
I got all day Brother.
I wish, there's no plates or ins
are you sure they will let you pick it up? a coworker of mine had his impounded for no plates, and he had to bring the plates and his id to pick it up.
PM Sent.
I only need details
does it run
what, who and where and when
I got all day Brother.
cool thanks Byte, i got help thanks again guys and GUY
DSB OUTDOORS
07-07-2011, 19:37
Wish I had the time!! Work has me tied up till 6pm. Could do it Sat. afternoon if all else fails. [Beer]
If Byte falls through let me know. I THINK my little Ranger can haul it...
n8tive97
07-07-2011, 21:11
PM Sent.
I only need details
does it run
what, who and where and when
I got all day Brother.
Byte,
Let me know if you need help, I have a meeting tomorrow between 1000-1100 at the Broomfield Events Center, I can give you a hand after that. I drive a F150 and have plenty of tie downs.
Just logged on and see that it looks taken care of. If something falls through, let me know and I'll get it for you Dave.
Colorado Luckydog
07-07-2011, 21:16
As much as I don't like most of you fuggers, you sure are some good dudes!![Beer][Beer][Beer]
Byte Stryke
07-08-2011, 00:56
As much as I don't like most of you fuggers, you sure are some good dudes!![Beer][Beer][Beer]
and I haven't thrown a grenade through your office window either [LOL]
Unless something drastic happens I am good for tomorrow.
DSB OUTDOORS
07-08-2011, 20:27
Thats GREAT that all of us Gun lovin, back stabbin, brothers. [Tooth] Can get along. Colo. Lucky, Byte, Mx'r, We Need to get together and have some Beers!! [LOL][Beer][Beer][Beer]
Byte Stryke
07-08-2011, 22:31
Thats GREAT that all of us Gun lovin, back stabbin, brothers. [Tooth] Can get along. Colo. Lucky, Byte, Mx'r, We Need to get together and have some Beers!! [LOL][Beer][Beer][Beer]
I dont backstab...
I prefer FTF.
:D
So did this get handled? I was free all day, but don't own a truck.
So did this get handled? I was free all day, but don't own a truck.
Yes it did, thanks to everyone who responded. The bike is in my garage and forsale lol.
Byte Stryke
07-09-2011, 21:43
So did this get handled? I was free all day, but don't own a truck.
Yes, Stuving. I got it Brother...
when are you going to come get those .40 cases?
Stuving only owns a .22 rifle, just ask him. What's he need with .40 brass?[Coffee]
Yes, Stuving. I got it Brother...
when are you going to come get those .40 cases?
I apologize. I've had less and less time lately. Perhaps a Wednesday or Friday during the day if you are home Byte.
I'm guessing you probably live in an apartment complex. There is this scam going on in the greater Denver area that is actually legal. Towing companies contact the managers of apartment communities and offer to provide "parking enforcement services" for FREE to prevent persons other than tenants from parking in the lots. Once a contract is signed, all the law requires them to do is post a sign warning that "unauthorized vehicles will be towed at owner's expense" with a contact number, then they can impound any vehicle that violates the rules stipulated in the contract.
Common violations include: expired registration sticker, expired temp tag, missing plate, "for sale" sign, commercial vehicle, flat tire, leaking oil or fluids, appears inoperable, appears to be used for storage, improperly parked.
If your vehicle is in "violation" they can tow and impound it, and if you cannot pay the impound fee they can keep or and resell it. If they saw a motorcycle with no tags and a for sale sign they would steal it -- legally. If you show up while they are about to remove it they will require you to pay a $70 "drop fee" in order to give you a warning and leave . . . but then they can show up an hour later and try taking it again. If you try to stop them, Colorado law is on their side since the management company has given them authorization to remove vehicles and they have the same authority as a security guard regarding confrontations and use of force.
It is a reprehensible practice, and as far as I know unique to the Denver area -- at least in the overall scope of its enforcement.
frozenmud
07-10-2011, 12:26
they have the same authority as a security guard regarding confrontations and use of force.
Could you please expound? I've never thought of tow truck drivers or security guards as have much if any authority.
Byte Stryke
07-10-2011, 12:38
I'm guessing you probably live in an apartment complex. There is this scam going on in the greater Denver area that is actually legal. Towing companies contact the managers of apartment communities and offer to provide "parking enforcement services" for FREE to prevent persons other than tenants from parking in the lots. Once a contract is signed, all the law requires them to do is post a sign warning that "unauthorized vehicles will be towed at owner's expense" with a contact number, then they can impound any vehicle that violates the rules stipulated in the contract.
Common violations include: expired registration sticker, expired temp tag, missing plate, "for sale" sign, commercial vehicle, flat tire, leaking oil or fluids, appears inoperable, appears to be used for storage, improperly parked.
If your vehicle is in "violation" they can tow and impound it, and if you cannot pay the impound fee they can keep or and resell it. If they saw a motorcycle with no tags and a for sale sign they would steal it -- legally. If you show up while they are about to remove it they will require you to pay a $70 "drop fee" in order to give you a warning and leave . . . but then they can show up an hour later and try taking it again. If you try to stop them, Colorado law is on their side since the management company has given them authorization to remove vehicles and they have the same authority as a security guard regarding confrontations and use of force.
It is a reprehensible practice, and as far as I know unique to the Denver area -- at least in the overall scope of its enforcement.
Could you please expound? I've never thought of tow truck drivers or security guards as have much if any authority.
I Pulled for APT in another life. 99% of the time the property managers will be the ones to call on stuff like that. It's not like tow trucks haunt parking lots looking. I know that we would get a call, go in and remove some POS. we wouldn't go looking for someone that just happened to park a little crooked in their space.
and as far as why he was in the situation he was, Yeah, you are off quite a bit.
as for the security guard thing... yeah ou dont want to try and interfere with them. At a minimum you are evicted up to and including arrested and civilly or criminally liable for interference in recovery/impounding procedures.
clublights
07-10-2011, 14:32
It's my understanding that "someone" ( manager etc.) MUST call the tow company.. they can't just drive around snatching up cars willy nilly.
Pretty sure thats a state law.
It's my understanding that "someone" ( manager etc.) MUST call the tow company.. they can't just drive around snatching up cars willy nilly.
Pretty sure thats a state law.
You are wrong. If they have a sign posted they can tow. Some can and do "haunt" parking lots. Those are the sleazy disreputable ones. I know of a local tow company that purchased several small lots for the sole purpose of having justification to tow ANYONE who parks there. I have been present at events where local businesses -- including strip malls and supermarket plazas -- have a couple of sandwich boards posted at the entries reading "NO EVENT PARKING" and there is a literal fleet of tow trucks being directed by a dozen spotters to tow and impound any car owned by any person who walks off premises. Once, in another state, I saw them pull nearly 100 cars in a single day during a free music festival across from a strip mall parking lot.
The tow company I'm familiar with takes a digital photo of each car before they tow it, and if it is a tenant's vehicle they put a notice sticker on the window explaining the violation and telling them they have 72 hours to correct it or move the vehicle. Tow fee plus impound fee exceeds $200, and there is a daily storage fee added to that.
clublights
07-10-2011, 17:35
You are wrong. If they have a sign posted they can tow. Some can and do "haunt" parking lots. Those are the sleazy disreputable ones. I know of a local tow company that purchased several small lots for the sole purpose of having justification to tow ANYONE who parks there.
If they are the owner .. of course they can sign the paper to tow ... it's not just a call it's a signing of the tow slip. the owner of the property or his agent must sign the tow slip.
I have been present at events where local businesses -- including strip malls and supermarket plazas -- have a couple of sandwich boards posted at the entries reading "NO EVENT PARKING" and there is a literal fleet of tow trucks being directed by a dozen spotters to tow and impound any car owned by any person who walks off premises. Once, in another state, I saw them pull nearly 100 cars in a single day during a free music festival across from a strip mall parking lot.
The "dozen spotters" were probably agents of the property owner towing people away for doing parking where the signs clearly said no parking.
The tow company I'm familiar with takes a digital photo of each car before they tow it, and if it is a tenant's vehicle they put a notice sticker on the window explaining the violation and telling them they have 72 hours to correct it or move the vehicle. Tow fee plus impound fee exceeds $200, and there is a daily storage fee added to that.
if they post a notice for 72 hours.... whats the problem ?
The examples you have just used are COMPLETELY different from the situation you posted before...
clublights
07-10-2011, 17:40
read rule 6508
http://www.dora.state.co.us/puc/rules/723-6TowingRules10-15-10.pdf
EDIT:
HAH I tell you to read it and I missed the very first part of rule 6508 **head smack**
yes a tow carrier CAN be set up as an authorized agent for the property owner...
but there is more to it then "just posting a sign".
If I lived in an apartment complex with that set up ... I'd move ASAP... infact now knowing it I'll be sure to check out about that BEFORE I sign a lease .. ( where I live currently does not have that set up ).
Kinda wack that they can be the cop judge and executioner in that set up .... they decide whats not ok, then tow away ....
Byte Stryke
07-10-2011, 18:44
read rule 6508
http://www.dora.state.co.us/puc/rules/723-6TowingRules10-15-10.pdf
EDIT:
HAH I tell you to read it and I missed the very first part of rule 6508 **head smack**
yes a tow carrier CAN be set up as an authorized agent for the property owner...
but there is more to it then "just posting a sign".
If I lived in an apartment complex with that set up ... I'd move ASAP... infact now knowing it I'll be sure to check out about that BEFORE I sign a lease .. ( where I live currently does not have that set up ).
Kinda wack that they can be the cop judge and executioner in that set up .... they decide whats not ok, then tow away ....
can be...
but due to some disreputable practices by one or two companies the property owners long ago decided they didn't like that liability.
If a Tow driver/Company acts on behalf of the property owner or management agency, something is unlawfully towed/damaged, Guess who is liable.
My apartment complex has very large and conspicuous signs like that. I've had a note on my car before, but there has not been an issue with people's cars being towed.
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