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Delphi
08-05-2006, 00:43
Hi guys, i'm getting an PTR91 pretty soon here, and have already gotten a claw mount and 1"scope rings for it.

Basically what i'm trying to do is turn the rifle into a sniper rifle. I'm wondering what the best scope would be for the job.... I'm really drooling over the Zeiss but i cant afford a 1000$ scope. Thats more than the rifle it's self.

Anyways i want to get the best scope i can get for under 300$ basically i want it to have at least a 50mm sope and at least 3-9 times zoom. More is better but i want the best quality scope i can get for that money in those specs. Any suggestions?

This one has caught my eye as bieng nice http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/17159-15707-1537.html
This one although cheap also caught my eye
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/SCP011-1034-1539.html
This one has a 56mm scope is that better?
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/40176-48004-1539.html
60mm is bigger better? lol
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/39139-46798-1539.html
With scopes is what you pay for really what you get or will an 80$ one be just as good as an 300-500$ one?


btw just found this is it any good?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=53754671

Also i might be able to dig up to around 600$ if it was really worth it, so give good low scopes and good high end scopes from 0-600$ preferably under 300 :)

Delphi
08-05-2006, 01:57
Also whats the differences in scope rings? Will a 1" scope ring fit a 30mm scope?

KarlPMann
08-05-2006, 02:47
Not sure, but I don't think so. 1"=25.4mm. Karl. :twisted:

Delphi
08-05-2006, 04:30
I guess that makes sence i see different rings for 1" and 30mm so i guess i'll have to buy a 30mm one if i get a scope like that.

Basically i want a real semi-auto sniper rifle, as close to the PSG1 as i can get. I'm thinkin the PTR91 is a good platform for that, especially since claw military scope mounts are readly available for it. That means the german military thought it a good enough rifle :) As a bonus i'll still be able to use iron sights. A 2 for one deal :) unlike if i bought a 16k PSG1 oye....

2ndChildhood
08-05-2006, 06:02
I don't know beans about scopes but...

A friend of mine works for Burris over in Greeley and he says you definitely get what you pay for in terms of optical clarity and quality of mechanical components.

MPfiveengineer
08-05-2006, 08:06
Hi guys, i'm getting an PTR91 pretty soon here, and have already gotten a claw mount and 1"scope rings for it.


For the money I like Nikon scopes. In your price range I would go with this guy. But having a Zeiss would rule.

http://www.riflescopes.com/products/6469/nikon_4.5-14x40_buckmaster_riflescope.htm

One thing I would do if I were you is get the rifle in hand and try the claw mount before you commit to using it. I personally think the HK claw mount sits WAY to high and think there are much better options out there.

http://www.dsarms.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=BT212621&storeid=1&image=bthkmnts.gif

One more thing, if you are looking to turn this into a sniper rifle I would take a look at the new Magpul HK stock

http://www.magpul.com/catalog/index.php

RYAN50BMG
08-05-2006, 08:11
PM on the way :mrgreen:

HunterCO
08-05-2006, 09:32
I am partial to Burris I put a Burris full field II with the ballistic plex cross hairs on my AR with the Bushy varmiteer upper. It's a 3X9 40mm works great I topped it off with my AWC Raider can I have played with it at the shoots but have not had a chance to try some really long range shooting with it yet.

BadShot
08-05-2006, 15:14
Bushnell Elite 3200 of a Super Sniper 10x ... found often at Snipershide.com for under 300. Don't waste your money on cheap knock offs, you'll just end up spending the money twice. Both of those are great entry level optics. Then again for an additional $50 I might be willing to sell you a Bushnell Elite 4200.

Delphi
08-05-2006, 16:24
Thanks for all the help and pms guys, i'll have to look over all the new info... still druling over the Zeiss and Swarovski scopes that i cant hardly afford.... 1500$ for a scope my god....

I'll post if i actually find somthing i like :)

Artyboy
08-05-2006, 19:32
I've heard wonderful things about Russian scopes. Apparently they really know how to build em and the price isn't half bad. If they're price to quality with scopes is consistent with their ammo then I can believe that.

newracer
08-05-2006, 23:54
Check out Mueller scopes. I have an Eraticator on my CZ 527 in .204 Ruger and their new APV on a 10/22. Both are great.

www.muelleroptics.com

Artyboy
08-06-2006, 06:42
http://www.kalinkaoptics.com/ I've never used their stuff but some guys from other forums have recommended them.

BadShot
08-11-2006, 08:15
All I know is from the folks that I have spoken with over the years who rely on their optics in real world situations, mostly contractors and a few active snipers. The one thing that came out as a true-ism is that you should expect to pay about 2x what you paid for the rifle for glass. These guys are shooting $1500-4500 rifles and forking out $2500 or more for high end S&B optics or the likes. There are several mid range manufacturers.. Leupold, IOR and Night Force come to mind.

The point is, that the more you pay the better the optic will be, and it is very noticable. Going from my little Elite 3200 to the NightForce was like night and day. Much sharper imaging and finer adjustments. This isn't to say that for the more casual shooters that the Bushnell, Burris and lower end Leupold and Nikon optics aren't going to fit the bill. But just remember, Pay Once, Cry Once.

michael_aos
08-11-2006, 16:56
I'd have to agree.

I've been using a Nightforce for the last ~2yrs. Decided I'd try a Leupold for a little less $$$.

I'm spoiled. This thing sucks compared to the Nightforce.

Mike

Delphi
08-12-2006, 03:33
Ya i'm actually thinking about dishing out a grand or so for a Karl Zeiss.... thats what i figure too if i pay once for a good one, i'll never have to pay again. I guess i'll have to sleep on it for a while, and save up some cash.

westy1970
08-20-2006, 17:34
Leatherwood ART Scopes are great and under $300.00. The instructions suck, but the video is good.

<MADDOG>
09-01-2006, 20:49
Listen to the "you pay for what you get".

The higher $ scopes are that way for a reason, and as I'm sure RYAN50BMG sent you a Nightforce link, there is a reason why. Save your deniro and get a quality scope, and not one that HK clone will beat to death inside 50 rounds.

But to address your question, try the "Supersniper" 10X42 ($299.95) on www.swfa.com. I had a couple before I learned my lesson, and while no Zeiss, NF, or S&B, they didn't break and were repeatable.