Canton PD Follow Up

[jplove71]

In regards to this thread (http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43026) and the video in it, there is a follow up story!


“I think it’s important for citizens to understand that the behavior demonstrated on the video is wholly unacceptable, and it violates many of our rules, our regulations and standards we demand of our officers,” Police Chief Dean McKimm said in response.

Harless, a 14-year department veteran, is under investigation, and was placed on paid administrative leave June 20, according to his personnel file.

You can read the full article here (http://www.cantonrep.com/carousel/x121489646/Canton-officer-under-investigation-after-concealed-carry-arrest).

I found this quoted on another site but can't seem to find it on the page that I linked to.

"UPDATE 7/22/2011: Canton Police announced Thursday that the officer was relieved of all duties in June following an internal investigation complaint filed in this matter. The local Canton Repository has done some additional investigatory work into the officers and an excellent analysis of the video / audio we posted."

[Ronin13]

Glad to see some justice finally served. I hate how these stories keep popping up and giving PD a bad name... I think it's incumbent upon someone to come out and say not all are bad, and the bad ones are really a very big minority. It's just too bad that the bad ones get all the press while the ones who do good (which is most) just keep on doing what they do with little to no recognition.

[SideShow Bob]

It's just too bad that the bad ones get all the press while the ones who do good (which is most) just keep on doing what they do with little to no recognition.

Maybe all you Google Fu Masters could find some videos of the "good ones" and post them up. Like the fairly recent incident of the off duty local officer that spotted a house on fire a saved the occupants.

[Scanker19]

I want to hear the results of the Civil Suit, if and when.

[copfish]

Maybe all you Google Fu Masters could find some videos of the "good ones" and post them up. Like the fairly recent incident of the off duty local officer that spotted a house on fire a saved the occupants.
Good cops doing their jobs is not newsworthy. Sensationalism sells...

[Graves]

Ibtl

[bryjcom]

Maybe all you Google Fu Masters could find some videos of the "good ones" and post them up. Like the fairly recent incident of the off duty local officer that spotted a house on fire a saved the occupants.


There was a post up here the other day where it showed a cop treating a OC'er professionally and respectfully. The OC'er was more rude than the cop.

And I see stories all the time about LE doing good and wonderful stuff. In fact most of the time I see good stories about cops doing good things.

They are out there but its just the bad ones that everyone remembers.

[bryjcom]

Ibtl


"In Before the Thread Lock" [ROFL1]

[alan0269]

In regards to this thread (http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43026) and the video in it, there is a follow up story!



You can read the full article here (http://www.cantonrep.com/carousel/x121489646/Canton-officer-under-investigation-after-concealed-carry-arrest).

I found this quoted on another site but can't seem to find it on the page that I linked to.


It can be found here:

http://ohioccw.org/201107214955/cantonpd.html

I've never had an experience with an officer even remotely close to the one in the video. Most of the officers out there are pretty even keeled and would have let the driver in the video finish what he was saying when it started with "I have ...". It seems the officer in question was already stressed out and hyped up about something before they rolled up on the scene, and he seemed to be looking for a confrontation - too bad as that is what the general public remembers. Who knows, maybe he was in another situation earlier in the evening that got out of control and that situation was affecting how he handled this one. None of us know the whole story or what lead up to his behavior in this incident, but I would think (hope) that for him to be a 14 year veteran, he couldn't have too many situations like this in his record.

[alan0269]

Maybe all you Google Fu Masters could find some videos of the "good ones" and post them up. Like the fairly recent incident of the off duty local officer that spotted a house on fire a saved the occupants.

http://www.policemag.com/List/Tag/Officer-Heroism.aspx


Good cops doing their jobs is not newsworthy. Sensationalism sells...

Unfortunately too true. The other reason that there are not as many videos of the "good ones" is that they are the ones that don't want recognition for doing whatever they have done. If you watch the news stories where an officer has done something that we (the public) feel is out of the norm or going above the call of duty, they almost always try to play it off as they were "just doing their job" or "I did nothing that anyone else wouldn't have done". It would be great if there were more positive stories out there about officers, but that is not what boosts ratings or catches the public eye.

I would like to say one more thing (something that should be said more often) to all of the police officers, fire fighters, and military personnel out there -

THANK YOU!!![Beer]

[Byte Stryke]

http://www.policemag.com/List/Tag/Officer-Heroism.aspx



Unfortunately too true. The other reason that there are not as many videos of the "good ones" is that they are the ones that don't want recognition for doing whatever they have done. If you watch the news stories where an officer has done something that we (the public) feel is out of the norm or going above the call of duty, they almost always try to play it off as they were "just doing their job" or "I did nothing that anyone else wouldn't have done". It would be great if there were more positive stories out there about officers, but that is not what boosts ratings or catches the public eye.

I would like to say one more thing (something that should be said more often) to all of the police officers, fire fighters, and military personnel out there -

THANK YOU!!![Beer]



I agree, absolutely +1.




(I fixed spelling because my OCD is acting up this morning.)

[SuperiorDG]

This thread has me thinking a little. You see my soon to be X always has the kids stand next to the local LE at baseball games for a photo. I guess it's a way of saying, "hi look at us we are in Denver." The last time she did this I was standing back with the peeps and you should of heard the commits. [Rant1]What a thankless job. You got a person standing there and only because he has a uniform on he gets crap. There's a person behind that badge and not many see beyond it.

By the way, the cops seem to love being photographed with the kids.

[alan0269]

(I fixed spelling because my OCD is acting up this morning.)

[Bang] That'll teach me to proof read before I hit the submit button! Had I done so, I could've caught that.

[<MADDOG>]

My 2 cents: I do not believe that 90% of the community hates or dislikes police officers, and they sure as hell love them when 911 is pushed. The focus is put on the "bad" cops because it appears to the public LE's are exceptionally bad about policing their own...It is expected that those who enforce the law also know and abide by it.

As far as a "thankless" job, I call bulllshit. LE is probably thanked far more often than any other profession out there aside from fire and military. And if someone wants to be thanked as part of his or her profession, they should probably switch to a career in medical care. For those of you who disagree, insure you thank your trashman, the electrician, plumber, truck driver, and grocery worker, because they have a far greater impact on your daily life then LE.

[sroz]

I agree whole heartedly that this guy is the exception. But as hard as I try, I cannot muster any sympathy for him. A 14 yr. veteran and he set himself & his partner up to get killed had this person really been a BG. Having a bad day is one thing & it does not justify threatening to execute a citizen. He decided to be Johnny Bad Ass with what he viewed as a weak, easy target then realized he had handled it all wrong. If this is how he handles stress, he is the one who should never be allowed to carry a weapon.

Having said all that, I can think of only one time when I dealt with a cop that was less than professional.

Just my 2 cents.

[Byte Stryke]

There's a person behind that badge and not many see beyond it.



sadly again, its probably because of the bad ones shoving that badge into the face of the populace.

It is a tad difficult to see the person on the other side of the badge when its in your face.

and again, its the few bad ones that screw it up for the rest of the good ones. So when we see one, we assume its a bad one until proven otherwise, and lets face it, Cops aren't exactly easy to cozy up to.

[Mick-Boy]

There's a link part way down this page (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/you-fu-with-me-cop-threatens-concealed-carry-gun-owner-during-traffic-stop/) of a video showing an Oceanside officer contacting someone who is open carrying. The difference is night and day.

[Byte Stryke]

There's a link part way down this page (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/you-fu-with-me-cop-threatens-concealed-carry-gun-owner-during-traffic-stop/) of a video showing an Oceanside officer contacting someone who is open carrying. The difference is night and day.

while I dont agree with the disarm, The cops in the oceanside video was a hell of a lot more professional and respectful than the first one.

I Agree, night and day

[funkfool]

Third video of death threat by Harless (http://www.policeone.com/officer-misconduct-internal-affairs/articles/4272753-Third-video-shows-)



August 26, 2011
Third video shows Canton cop making death threats

Officer Daniel Harless is heard on dash cam threatening to kill a passenger

By PoliceOne Staff
CANTON, Ohio — Another video has surfaced showing Canton police officer Daniel Harless threatening passengers during a traffic stop, which is the third time he has been caught on camera exhibiting aggressive behavior.
Harless is heard on dash cam threatening to kill a passenger he and his partner had pulled over.
“If you scratch you balls wrong, I’m going to pull my gun and I am going to shoot you,” he said. “I’m so close to caving in your (expletive) head.”
An internal affairs investigation found that Harless violated three department rules and regulations during the December incident: deportment, cooperation with the public, and treatment of persons in custody.
Investigators also found Harless violated the same three rules during two other stops where he was captured on dash cam exhibiting similar behavior, according to WEWS (http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/canton-police-officer-placed-on-leave-cleared-in-18-internal-complaints-3rd-dash-cam-video-released#ixzz1W9Iv3C2N). Harless received national attention when the other two videos went viral in July.
Canton police records show there have been 18 internal affairs complaints against Harless since 2000, and in each case, he was exonerated.
Harless is currently on administrative leave, and a hearing is scheduled for September 7.

It seems someone is looking out for Officer Harless...

[Elhuero]

wow, a third video?

I hope everyone in all the videos gets together and gang-sues the city, department, and harless.


It seems someone is looking out for Officer Harless...

yeah, just watch the captain's face as he's interviewed. police are allowed by law to lie, you'd think he'd be better at it.