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I will have some nice pics of a 1911 that is not even out yet. it should be coming to me in the next few days. I will post some nice pictures.
jplove71
07-28-2011, 19:34
Nobody likes a tease. [ROFL1]
[Worth]
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
Haha, yeah this ^^
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
[ROFL1]
Is it that hard to understand, I have been dealing with the designer of a new 1911 pistol that has not hit the market. I have been trying to get this gun for 4 months and now I have got one coming. I got to him just in time as there were only 3 sample guns, and one has my name on it. they will be available to people in the next couple of months, but I am getting one of the first guns built, and it is being tuned and set up just for me. I hope this clears up any confusion.
I wonder what it will look like.
I wonder what it will look like.Will that is why I put this post up, it is a really cool gun. Once the pictures and info on it are up, some may realy like it while others may not like it at all. I guess we will see in a few days.
argonstrom
07-28-2011, 20:20
I wonder what it will look like.
I hope it looks like a 1911!!! [Flower][Flower][Flower]
I hope it looks like a 1911!!! [Flower][Flower][Flower]Dont quote me on this but I think a 1911 will look like a 1911
blacklabel
07-28-2011, 20:28
I think I'm intrigued. Not sure yet.
I hope it's not just another copy of the Ruger 1911.
patrick0685
07-28-2011, 21:10
Dont quote me on this but I think a 1911 will look like a 1911
oh you have been quoted
I hope it's not just another copy of the Ruger 1911.The ruger SR1911 is already out.
Dont quote me on this but I think a 1911 will look like a 1911
you would think, but you'd be wrong. there are quite a few out there that look quite different.
mcantar18c
07-28-2011, 23:46
you would think, but you'd be wrong. there are quite a few out there that look quite different.
If you can still tell its a 1911... it still looks like a 1911.
There's only so many things you can do to spice it up. Change it around too much and it ain't a 1911 anymore.
The new ruger lcp 1911? Size of the LCP built as a 1911 (chambered in the 10mm of course).
BPTactical
07-29-2011, 10:22
If you can still tell its a 1911... it still looks like a 1911.
There's only so many things you can do to spice it up. Change it around too much and it ain't a 1911 anymore.
A 1912 perhaps?
The Regulator
07-29-2011, 13:02
Please take a picture of a small part of it. Increase my intrigue level! [Tooth]
Please take a picture of a small part of it. Increase my intrigue level! [Tooth]I dont have it yet, once I have it I will post pictures all over. And my review that is what I was asked to do for him getting me a sample gun out.
I should be posting pictures tomorrow, I hope it will be here on time.
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mcantar18c
08-03-2011, 18:00
That's gonna be one expensive plinker...
Its cool, but 1) Not something new (I saw a review of a .22TCM 1911 a while back), 2) Other than a sharper/more defined curve in the slide where it meets the dust cover, it doesn't look all that new/exciting/different than other 1911s, and 3) IMO the .22TCM needs to pick up a larger market to make it worth the purchase, as of right now the ammo is too expensive/hard to find that it makes it not worth it for a plinker and makes training for use as a fighting gun very cost-preventative.
Don't get me wrong, as 1911s go it appears to have some nice parts on it and I do like the minimalist styling of it (no unneeded forward-slide grooves, "cool" designs, etc.), but I don't see what all the hype and excitement is about as it seems to be mostly a novelty gun.
sneakerd
08-03-2011, 18:14
I have to agree with mcantar. The 1st thing I thought was price of ammo. Good luck with that, I predict a short retail life for the gun and cartridge.
It costs the same as a 9mm I buy by the 1000, and its well worth it, have you seen what this little 40 gr bullet does to a watermelon on youtube. And it has a 9mm barrel with it, as far as I know I am the only one that has one in the us.
I have to agree with mcantar. The 1st thing I thought was price of ammo. Good luck with that, I predict a short retail life for the gun and cartridge.
It would not bother me at all, with the low low serial number it will just go up in value.
It would not bother me at all, with the low low serial number it will just go up in value.
Unlikely.
mcantar18c
08-03-2011, 20:25
It costs the same as a 9mm I buy by the 1000, and its well worth it, have you seen what this little 40 gr bullet does to a watermelon on youtube. And it has a 9mm barrel with it, as far as I know I am the only one that has one in the us.
Got a link for that pricing? Even if you can order cases of it for a similar price as 9mm, you still have the availability issue. I haven't seen .22 TCM on the shelves of any of the stores I go to (which are all full of 9mm, btw).
Yes I've seen the videos. I can't find any hard numbers for it, but from what it is and what I've seen in the videos it seems like its very similar to 5.7x28... I'd venture to say that its an attempt at a rifle-power handgun cartridge similar to the 5.7x28 but easier to produce/manufacture. Going off that... its freakin dumb. Once again, too difficult to find (and until I see numbers to prove me wrong, I'll say too expensive, too) for a general plinker, and impractical for a fighting gun. Not to mention, if used for two-legged targets, you'll have a high risk of overpenetration. Again, this is all what I can guess from what I can see about the round, I haven't found any numbers for it.
Unlikely.
Agreed.
Got a link for that pricing? Even if you can order cases of it for a similar price as 9mm, you still have the availability issue. I haven't seen .22 TCM on the shelves of any of the stores I go to (which are all full of 9mm, btw).
Yes I've seen the videos. I can't find any hard numbers for it, but from what it is and what I've seen in the videos it seems like its very similar to 5.7x28... I'd venture to say that its an attempt at a rifle-power handgun cartridge similar to the 5.7x28 but easier to produce/manufacture. Going off that... its freakin dumb. Once again, too difficult to find (and until I see numbers to prove me wrong, I'll say too expensive, too) for a general plinker, and impractical for a fighting gun. Not to mention, if used for two-legged targets, you'll have a high risk of overpenetration. Again, this is all what I can guess from what I can see about the round, I haven't found any numbers for it.
Agreed.I got mine from armscor, and like I said I have the 9mm barrel so I dont have to shoot the tcm ammo. I am going to take it out today, it should run really good. Fred Craig personaly put this one together and tuned it for me so I would like it. The other cool thing is it takes para p18 20 rd mags, so I have a couple of those on order. The slide to frame fit is really nice I cant feel any movement, and it has had quite a few rounds throut it for testing and tuning.
22gr. HP @ 2050ft/s and 380 ft. lbf of energy 22 TCM (5.0 INCH TEST BARREL)
23gr. FMJ @ 2800fps and 400 ft. lbf of energy FN 5.7x28 (10.35 INCH TEST BARREL)
31gr. FMJ @ 2350ft/s and 394 ft.lbf pf energy FN 5.7x28 (10.35 INCH TEST BARREL)
28gr. JHP @ 2350ft/s and 344 ft. lbf of energy FN 5.7x28 (10.35 INCH TEST BARREL)
ScooterCO
08-04-2011, 18:51
It sure is black!
Enjoy!
It is always nice to get a new one.
Fred Craig personaly put this one together
Good to see Fred building guns again. I have not seen him or his brother Jamie in 10+ years.
Why on earth would Fred build a gun around an Armscor frame...?
Man that is a fun gun, it is unbelievably accurate, and reliable. I think for guys that carry 9mm 1911 pistols it would be a great gun. I had to order 2 MG 20 rd p18 mags, so 20+1 it is a great gun. It is kind of cool when you pull the trigger on a 1911 and it sounds like an AR15, and the flash off the front of it is incredible.
I'm completely taken by surprise by the looks of this gun.
I'm completely taken by surprise by the looks of this gun.?????
blacklabel
08-04-2011, 22:52
I'm completely taken by surprise by the looks of this gun.
I don't sense any sarcasm there at all.
I don't sense any sarcasm there at all.
I don't see anything dishonest there at all.
If I remember I think I said that it will look like a 1911 because it is a 1911 and 1911's look like 1911's unless I am missing something. So if you are taken by surprise all I can say is WOW. It is a 1911 just a really cool caliber it is a new round and I like it. I will buy another one when I get the chance. I ran it through the ringer today and the slide to frame fit is still very nice no movement at all.
ShooterJM
08-05-2011, 15:32
It may end up being my next 1911. If the .22TCM works out, great. If not I still have a 9mm option.
It may end up being my next 1911. If the .22TCM works out, great. If not I still have a 9mm option. I have been thinking about trying a 38 super barrel in it. I will speak to Fred Craig before I do it, but I dont see why it would not work. And with the Mg p18 mags you have a total of 21 rounds if you carry it with 1 in the pipe. I am just going to stock up on the 22 tcm ammo, and use the 9mm when I take it out.
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