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Mtn.man
07-29-2011, 13:27
Why can't they find something elese to do.

http://www.kxxv.com/story/15160248/new-rules-could-mean-less-help-higher-costs-for-family-farm

nynco
07-29-2011, 13:30
Its private land..... not a public road. They have no right in my opinion.

newracer
07-29-2011, 13:42
This is why
Concerned with the amount of farm equipment making short hops between fields and down public roadways, U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) is considering whether or not to classify agricultural machines like tractors as "commercial vehicles," requiring a CDL to operate.

How ever they do not cross state lines, well maybe some do, so I don't think the have the authority to regulate them at all.

TFOGGER
07-29-2011, 14:16
"We have lost our understanding of rural life and agriculture," explains Meister. "I'm not saying that anything's malicious at all, but they just don't understand."

I'll say it for you, Mr. Meister: HEY!!! YOU F*CKSTICKS IN DC! PISS OFF AND LEAVE US THE F*CK ALONE!

JohnTRourke
07-29-2011, 14:51
I hate the .gov and the whole thing sucks
But farmers have brought this on themselves.

If you don't realize it, farmers can operate heavy trucks without a CDL with some restrictions. (and no medical cards, pee tests, logs, etc) One of the big restrictions is that they do it for their own farm.

if they are getting paid to drive, then it's commercial work and they need a CDL.

Same thing with "custom farming" and other work. In colorado if you buy equipment for farm use, there is no sales tax. (this is 8% savings off a 100,000 dollar purchase), nor do you need SMM plates (and just like the rest of colorado plates they are Fing expensive). But that's only for YOUR land (or leased land which is legally your land)

If you get paid for it, on someone else's property, it's commercial and you are subject to the commercial rules.

Which of course, many (not all, but most) farmers completely and totally ignore. Now that's fine, it's a stupid law, BUT BY GOD the playing field should be level. I didn't vote for the stupid law and it's pretty Fing hard to compete with someone who's costs are 10% or more lower than mine because they don't pay their taxes/inspections/etc.

either repeal the laws for everyone, or make them apply to everyone. (and yes, this includes RV's, who also don't need a CDL/inspections/etc)

KevDen2005
07-29-2011, 15:59
Depending on the current "type" of federalism we have, the commerce clause could be translated broadly or narrowly. It can be as broad as, if it affects another state with something as minor as the oil/gas for the tractor comes from another state than it's interstate commerce. Sometimes the definitions are way out of control...depending on what law makers want to make work for them.

Either way, this hopefully will not pass. Way too many farmers and farm equipment out there being used for legitimate purposes...this would be bad for the farming and rural communities. I think.

CrufflerSteve
07-29-2011, 16:32
It will hopefully be shot down. Out in the country it has always been understood that a driver's license was for public roads not private property.

Steve

mcantar18c
07-30-2011, 05:40
As someone who this would partially effect...
THIS IS BULLSHIT. F*cktard city folk need to stay the hell out of this stuff.
Too many people that don't understand that their corn, eggs, and beef don't grow on the shelves of their damn grocery store.

Mtn.man
07-30-2011, 07:54
Like the anti hunting girl said, why can't you get your meat at the grocery store where no animals are hurt.