View Full Version : Rep Lamborn compares Obama to a "tar baby"
Scanker19
08-01-2011, 16:51
http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/Rep_Lamborn_compares_Obama_to_tar_baby_on_radio_sh ow_126545773.html
[ROFL1][ROFL2][ROFL3][LOL]
[ROFL1]A sticky situation INDEED.
Bailey Guns
08-01-2011, 18:01
All the liberals are gonna go into "he's a racist" mode now. Good for Doug. He'll be proven right in Nov 2012.
Dumbass just making it harder to defend Republicans.
Jumpstart
08-01-2011, 19:23
How irreverent!
While I am not sure if Lanborn was trying to make a racist statement or not, the term tarbaby refers more to a sticky situation rather than ones color. But i am sure Lanborn meant the double entendre. I could care less though. One should not be afraid to talk about color. Just depends on how and to what ends.
We already be in tha briar patch ....
BPTactical
08-01-2011, 21:30
For some silly reason the skit from "Saturday Night Live" with Chevy Chase and Richard Pryor comes to mind........[Coffee]
argonstrom
08-01-2011, 21:58
All the liberals are gonna go into "he's a racist" mode
Dumbass just making it harder to defend Republicans.
That's what all liberals do when they have no good ground upon which to stand.
jerrymrc
08-01-2011, 23:02
For some silly reason the skit from "Saturday Night Live" with Chevy Chase and Richard Pryor comes to mind........[Coffee]
Yes it does.[Coffee].[LOL]Time to break out the album "Bicentennial ******" by Mr Pryor. [Flower]
Seamonkey
08-02-2011, 07:58
Reminded me of this:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/daily/jan99/district27.htm
Mr. Howard had to resign for using the word "niggardly" properly.
I think it's the movie "Clerks" that a character rattles off a list of racial terms? I must admit that I didn't know half of those so I'll probably end up in the news someday for using a word properly but having offended the purple speckled hairless condor or something
[Shake]
two shoes
08-02-2011, 08:04
Reminded me of this:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/daily/jan99/district27.htm
Mr. Howard had to resign for using the word "niggardly" properly.
I think it's the movie "Clerks" that a character rattles off a list of racial terms? I must admit that I didn't know half of those so I'll probably end up in the news someday for using a word properly but having offended the purple speckled hairless condor or something
[Shake]
Clerk's II, the phrase was "Porch Monkey 4 Life".... I'ts ok, we're taking it back....
ghettodub
08-02-2011, 08:11
Cracked me up when I heard about this. I thought "you idiot, didn't think that one out before you said it..."
[LOL]
"Porch Monkey 4 Life".... I'ts ok, we're taking it back....
[ROFL1][ROFL1]
While I am not sure if Lanborn was trying to make a racist statement or not, the term tarbaby refers more to a sticky situation rather than ones color. But i am sure Lanborn meant the double entendre. I could care less though. One should not be afraid to talk about color. Just depends on how and to what ends.
Yes, keep it up, every Republican is racist and evil! I'm sure he did not mean the negative meaning. Like you said, he meant it for the sticky situation we're in. To even appear racist is political suicide. More swayed speak from our token lib!
Yes, keep it up, every Republican is racist and evil! I'm sure he did not mean the negative meaning. Like you said, he meant it for the sticky situation we're in. To even appear racist is political suicide. More swayed speak from our token lib!
I should have been more clear in my response.
Lanborn was practicing: Dog-whistle politics, also known as the use of code words, is a term for a type of political campaigning or speechmaking which employs coded language that appears to mean one thing to the general population but has a different or more specific meaning for a targeted subgroup of the audience. The term is invariably pejorative, and is used to refer both to messages with an intentional subtext, and those where the existence or intent of a secondary meaning is disputed. The term is an analogy to dog whistles, which are built in such a way that the high-frequency whistle is heard by dogs, but appears silent to human hearing.
Do I care, no....
Bailey Guns
08-02-2011, 15:16
Lawdy, lawdy. I sho is glad you splain'd dat so good to us po, dumb conservatives. We mighta never knowed what-chu meaned otherwise.
Yes, keep it up, every Republican is racist and evil!
Man, Ronin, you must be the biggest doof on the planet. Don't you realize that when Reagan was in office he mandated that all blacks were to be referred to as tar babies and that Lamborn was just coming into politics at the time and knew nothing other than what Reagan brainwashed him to be? It's NOT Lamborns fault (the blatant racist), it is directly Reagan and Bush's fault (because Bush's dad was Reagans VP and passed the culture down).
And don't even get me STARTED on how Reagan was the kingpin behind slavery and the puppet master of Adolf Hitler and has proven direct bloodline ties to Genghis Khan!
Sorry, couldn't help myself [Neene1]. Back to your regularly scheduled debate now please.
Clerk's II, the phrase was "Porch Monkey 4 Life".... I'ts ok, we're taking it back....
My favorite movie line ever. I love that whole scene. Particularly as a southerner who knew far more clansmen than should be considered acceptable!
I should have been more clear in my response.
Lanborn was practicing: [I]Dog-whistle politics, also known as the use of code words, is a term for a type of political campaigning or speechmaking which employs coded language that appears to mean one thing to the general population but has a different or more specific meaning for a targeted subgroup of the audience. The term is invariably pejorative, and is used to refer both to messages with an intentional subtext, and those where the existence or intent of a secondary meaning is disputed. The term is an analogy to dog whistles, which are built in such a way that the high-frequency whistle is heard by dogs, but appears silent to human hearing.
Do I care, no....
Oh ok, that makes it a lot more clear to me... nynco is psychic! Do you know for sure his intent was to code his wording? What if he was brought up with the use of the word "tar baby" and just felt comfortable using it for this situation (and no way racist)? You don't. But neither do I, but I do like to give people the benefit of the doubt and will go as far to assume that he was not intending a dual meaning, that he never intended the phrase to be taken out of context and interpreted as racist. Like I said before, being construed as racist is political suicide. This is America 2011, not 1961 where a politician can spew hateful double speak and get away with it. I'd like to believe Lamborn is smarter than that.
but I do like to give people the benefit of the doubt and will go as far to assume that he was not intending a dual meaning, that he never intended the phrase to be taken out of context and interpreted as racist.
I'm going to split with you on this one a bit. I don't think he meant it the way it is portrayed (you are correct, that would be political suicide to use SUCH a derogatory term today), but I have to also admit that if the same situation came out of a dems mouth that I might not be so forgiving. If Obama referred to us a crackers I would be first on the racist calling bandwagon, even if he meant something stupid like "hollow flavorless cookies". So, if the shoe were on the other foot I might take it out of context simply because I despise the man already and can point at him and say "see, see, I told you he hated Whitey!".
It was a stupid comment and it was probably said without any though to it's double meaning, but to say it was a blatant racist remark, cleverly disguised, I really don't think so. But, I do understand that all libs will think so and there's nothing I can do about that.
HBARleatherneck
08-02-2011, 16:05
basically the guy is a DUMBASS for saying what he said. sometimes its better to keep your cockholster shut.
Since you brought up Reagan......[ROFL1]
Reagan is the text book example of dogwhistle politics. His "States Rights Speech" which he used to launch his campaign was just that.
"I believe in states' rights.... I believe we have distorted the balance of our government today by giving powers that were never intended to be given in the Constitution to that federal establishment."
"restore to states and local governments the power that properly belongs to them."
Why is it dog whistle? Because "states' rights" speech was at the Neshoba County Fair, just a few miles from Philadelphia, Mississippi, a town associated with the 1964 murders of civil rights workers. A town only famous for its brutal murders during the civil right struggle.
Now was Reagans speech racist at all? Nope........ but those who believe in "States Rights" to keep blacks segregated heard that speech in a different way than most Americans.
Don't worry Ranger, I'm not pickin on ya. I think your a good guy.[Beer]
Why is it dog whistle? Because "states' rights" speech was at the Neshoba County Fair, just a few miles from Philadelphia, Mississippi, a town associated with the 1964 murders of civil rights workers. A town only famous for its brutal murders during the civil right struggle.
Wow, just W-O-W. Nynco that's quite a stretch, even for you. I mean, frickin' WOW. Can I call you Nynco-m-poop? [ROFL1]. Seriously, that's some serious right hating, left loving, hug a communist kind of stretching right there.
basically the guy is a DUMBASS for saying what he said. sometimes its better to keep your cockholster shut.
I think HBAR hit the nail on the head there.
I also agree with your cracker post Ranger.
Wow, just W-O-W. Nynco that's quite a stretch, even for you. I mean, frickin' WOW. Can I call you Nynco-m-poop? [ROFL1]
Ranger the dog whistle part was not the words in the speech alone. But where the speech was given. To racists, they heard a guy who was one of them. To a normal fiscal conservative, they heard Reagan as being someone who believed in limited gov.
I'm still going to secretly refer to you as Nynco-m-poop though. Crap, the secret's out, but can I, huh, huh? Of course I really don't know what Nynco stands for anyway so it probably doesn't matter [Beer]
Bailey Guns
08-02-2011, 16:17
Jesus Christ. There simply isn't a safe haven from Libtardians. Even a freakin AR-15 forum.
Yea, you would think that it would only be us right wing nutbags here in a gun forum, but diversity is good isn't it? :)
Ranger why would Reagan go to a backwoods bubba inbred holler to give is presidential announcement speech and then start talking about states rights.... Which states rights there no more than 10 years before meant hangin coons...
Bailey Guns
08-02-2011, 16:20
Yea, you would think that it would only be us right wing nutbags here in a gun forum, but diversity is good isn't it?
No. Neither is "reaching across the aisle" or "working together to forge a compromise" or any number of additional liberal bullshit platitudes.
Liberalism is destroying America. It should be illegal.
No. Neither is "reaching across the aisle" or "working together to forge a compromise" or any number of additional liberal bullshit platitudes.
Liberalism is destroying America. It should be illegal.
Well I know I won't invite Bailey over for a BBQ. [ROFL1]
Now don't get me wrong, BG, I'm with you that liberalism is destroying America, but I also know that absolute power corrupts absolutely - so if we only had one side of things I think it would be a very bad place indeed. As much as I hate the liberal point of view, I have to appreciate that it's needed for me to have a basis for the conservative point of view and to allow me to make my own choices.
Zundfolge
08-02-2011, 16:29
Anyone who truly believes the whole "dog-whistle" or "racist codewords" bushwa is a fool not worthy of debating with (I suspect the vast majority of those shouting "racist!" don't even believe it but cynically use the term as a political bludgeon).
Sorry nynco, but you're clearly engaging in Alinskyite tactics. Such tactics are not honest debate, they are the way one speaks to an enemy you eventually plan on stuffing in an oven.
Well I know I won't invite Bailey over for a BBQ. [ROFL1]
Dude, really? If you have a BBQ just how many of us would ACCEPT anyway? [Beer]
Zundfolge
08-02-2011, 16:31
Dude, really? If you have a BBQ just how many of us would ACCEPT anyway? [Beer]
True ... most of us don't go for grilled tofu. [ROFL1]
Zunde where am I wrong? Dog whistle stuff is real. It works even better when people don't get it. Heck a Senator could run on a platform of legalizing attachable hearing protection for riffles as a way of cleaning up noise pollution and helping save money by eliminating the cost of hearing loss on the economy.
Liberals would hear it as a good thing for public health and a way to cut down on noise pollution from the "Evil gun" owners who shoot in the woods.
You and I and many other gun owners would cheer because the guy was making suppressors[Beer] legal.
Ranger....... well more food for me. I don't have a big place or a real porch so perhaps it's best in the end.[Beer]
Bailey Guns
08-02-2011, 16:38
Dude, really? If you have a BBQ just how many of us would ACCEPT anyway? [Beer]
Dammit, Ranger. Give me time to post before you say exactly what I would've said.
True ... most of us don't go for grilled tofu. [ROFL1]
I hate tofu and think that Veganism is nothing more than a politically correct eating disorder. I have dumped or never started a relationship with a few girls for being vegetarian alone. Yes there is a difference between a vegan and a vegetarian.
Bailey Guns
08-02-2011, 16:40
True ... most of us don't go for grilled tofu. [ROFL1]
Oh, I can stomach the tofu. It's the liberals I can't stomach. Well...maybe if they were cooked with a good Texas-style sauce.
Dammit, Ranger. Give me time to post before you say exactly what I would've said.
Not fast enough huh Bailey[ROFL1]
Just to bring up something.... how many people do you think adopt from your pet place that are liberals. I am sure many. I am sure you are just as grateful to them as you would be to a conservative. So give it a rest.
I don't get on here calling all conservatives goose stepping evil people.
Bailey Guns
08-02-2011, 16:42
Now don't get me wrong, BG, I'm with you that liberalism is destroying America, but I also know that absolute power corrupts absolutely - so if we only had one side of things I think it would be a very bad place indeed. As much as I hate the liberal point of view, I have to appreciate that it's needed for me to have a basis for the conservative point of view and to allow me to make my own choices.
I hear what you're saying but disagree. Besides...I can always use a libertarian for that purpose. I don't need liberals/liberalism for anything. Period.
[Rant1]
I hear what you're saying but disagree. Besides...I can always use a libertarian for that purpose. I don't need liberals/liberalism for anything. Period.
Its good to see such open minds to things in life. I am sure you are aware of US history too.[ROFL1]
Oh, I can stomach the tofu. It's the liberals I can't stomach. Well...maybe if they were cooked with a good Texas-style sauce.
[ROFL1]
Bailey Guns
08-02-2011, 16:50
Not fast enough huh Bailey[ROFL1]
Just to bring up something.... how many people do you think adopt from your pet place that are liberals. I am sure many. I am sure you are just as grateful to them as you would be to a conservative. So give it a rest.
I don't get on here calling all conservatives goose stepping evil people.
Doesn't have anything to do with being fast. It has everything to do with I'm multi-tasking and not glued to the site waiting for someone to respond.
And, yes, I'm grateful for everyone that adopts an animal and cares for it. That doesn't mean I have to agree with their politics.
You've used every opportunity to post your liberal leanings on this website. It's obvious you wear your political leanings as a badge of honor...just as I do my conservative ideology. So you take your "give it a rest" advice and stick it where ever you choose.
And last I checked, no one accused you of name calling in this thread. So, while I'm assuming you have a point I'm just not sure what it is.
Bailey Guns
08-02-2011, 16:54
[Rant1]
Its good to see such open minds to things in life. I am sure you are aware of US history too.[ROFL1]
Why do I need to have an open mind to liberal ideology? And, yes, I'm pretty familiar with American history.
Classical liberalism I can generally tolerate and respect. Modern/social/neo liberalism is where I part ways.
Bailey the only reason I told you to give it a rest was your rantings that all liberals are evil and liberalism is trying to destroy the country. Its going a little too far and sounds like the same words the goose steppers used at one time for the justification for gassing commies, jews and many others.
I don't stop anyone from posting their views nor do I impune them. But don't try to say that I hate my country because you think I am a liberal.
No. Neither is "reaching across the aisle" or "working together to forge a compromise" or any number of additional liberal bullshit platitudes.
Liberalism is destroying America. It should be illegal.
Talk like that is just BS period.
Bailey Guns
08-02-2011, 16:58
There you have it. Freedom to express your opinions in action.
But, to be fair, I didn't say liberals/liberalism was "trying" to destroy America.
Nynco, one thing to understand is that to conservatives like myself (and BG), you ARE a liberal, even if you aren't. Just the same way as true liberals see the New York Times or Washington Post being conservative because they are far left of the papers point of view. I know you explain yourself as a libertarian and I accept that, but to someone as far right as me, you are liberal in your views. I accept that I'm a whacko right winger, call me what you will, but to me your views are liberal more than libertarian (and, yes, I understand the difference) - just know it's more perception than anything. And please don't get into a debate on my own perceptions, OK, just know that I see you differently than you see yourself - and that's not a bad thing. Also note that I've referred to you as a libertarian since you made that statement, as I respect YOUR self perception as well.
Your still a Nynco-m-poop though. [LOL]
I would say my political views are all over the place depending on the issue. I would rather work to find common ground and real world solutions rather than ideological dead ends.
I would never want the gov to produce my TV, my shoes or my car or things like that.
But I do think the gov has a roll providing my sewer, water, roads, power grid and a few other things so all business can play on a level playing field so that innovation and the free market can work rather than monopolies manipulating those core societal needs.
Bailey Guns
08-02-2011, 17:07
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt337/baileyguns/d6ac7139.png
Bailey, you're in love with a Tranny[Flower][ROFL1]
Bailey, you're in love with a Tranny[Flower][ROFL1]
Wow, rude. What was it you were saying about how you don't name-call or lump all conservatives together?
Bailey Guns
08-02-2011, 17:21
Wow, rude. What was it you were saying about how you don't name-call or lump all conservatives together?
Now come on...you know a classic liberal tactic, even those that think they're libertarian, is to make sure you do as they say, not as they do.
He has to say things like that because he's so tolerant of diversity. Making fun of alternate lifestyles proves how tolerant he is.
Coulter looks like a man......... in fact her nickname is man-coulter. I never said I was PC. I make fun of every body.[Beer]
Jumpstart
08-02-2011, 17:25
Jesus Christ. There simply isn't a safe haven from Libtardians. Even a freakin AR-15 forum.
lol.
sneakerd
08-02-2011, 17:28
Lamborn was referring to the situation- the debt-ceiling bill- NOT that piece of trash Obama! I'd do Ann Coulter all day and then some![Beer]
Bailey Guns
08-02-2011, 17:29
http://www.anncoulter.com/photos/gun.jpg
http://www.anncoulter.com/photos/annblack.jpg
http://www.anncoulter.com/photos/JNP4220.jpg
http://i.fanpix.net/images/orig/8/m/8mmhu89394ns49s8.jpg
http://i.fanpix.net/images/orig/g/c/gcbvxdaftcxjadtb.jpg
Yeah...not really seeing that whole "man" thing.
Watch out for the adams apple... She might have had a stay in Trinidad at one point in her life.... just sayin[ROFL1]
Zundfolge
08-02-2011, 18:05
Zunde where am I wrong? Dog whistle stuff is real.
No its not real, its bullshit.
Dog whistles (or rather the accusation of their use) are the same Alynskite BS as accusing your enemies of being racists or sexists or homophobes ... or for that matter accusing them of being transsexuals.
The tactic is designed to marginalize and demonize your enemies so you don't have to actually engage in honest debate of the issues. Its the tactic of people that either know they would lose an honest fight, or don't care about an honest fight because they plan on murdering their enemies in death camps once they get enough power.
nynco, you may be right on the gun issues, but that's about it.
zunde it exists all the time. Phrases can mean different things to different people. Just look at the different interpretation of religion for proof of that.
sneakerd
08-02-2011, 22:51
That hot slut has had a boob job, good for her- they look good! Other than that I think her legs need a little muscle. Meow
No. Neither is "reaching across the aisle" or "working together to forge a compromise" or any number of additional liberal bullshit platitudes.
Liberalism is destroying America. It should be illegal.
I don't think liberalism should be illegal, every country needs examples of evil and wrong, liberalism fills both those roles.
Nynco-m-poop, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt (and I really have no idea why) and say that I assume (yes, I know what that makes me) that you are just being silly and don't ACTUALLY believe that Ann Coulter is a tranny.
It's funny, if you Google the whole Ann Coulter Tranny thing about the only sites that come up asking about it, citing sources for it's fact or theorize about it are pretty hard core WAY beyond left blog sites. Hell, I didn't even know there were whackjobs that thought that until Nynco brought it up.
So to clarify (and try to tie this into the OP): Saying tar baby is taken out of context, said to obviously point to Obama being black, racist as all get out but it's totally OK to accuse Ann Coulter of being a tranny with NO proof of this whatsoever as an obvious attack on the right and it's OK. We expect this from the left, it's what (and many times ALL) they ever do, but GIMME A BREAK!
Bailey Guns
08-03-2011, 07:46
No its not real, its bullshit.
Dog whistles (or rather the accusation of their use) are the same Alynskite BS as accusing your enemies of being racists or sexists or homophobes ... or for that matter accusing them of being transsexuals.
The tactic is designed to marginalize and demonize your enemies so you don't have to actually engage in honest debate of the issues. Its the tactic of people that either know they would lose an honest fight, or don't care about an honest fight because they plan on murdering their enemies in death camps once they get enough power.
nynco, you may be right on the gun issues, but that's about it.
Couldn't agree with you more, Zund...with one little exception.
I don't think he's right on the gun issue at all. Anyone who supports a party that has at the heart of it's agenda infringing the 2A rights of citizens is not "right on gun issues". Regardless of how much he likes to shoot or how many guns he owns.
Zundfolge
08-03-2011, 09:14
Couldn't agree with you more, Zund...with one little exception.
I don't think he's right on the gun issue at all. Anyone who supports a party that has at the heart of it's agenda infringing the 2A rights of citizens is not "right on gun issues". Regardless of how much he likes to shoot or how many guns he owns.
I was giving him the benefit of the doubt ... you know us intolerant, bigoted, close minded right winger teabaggers are like that.
zunde it exists all the time. Phrases can mean different things to different people. Just look at the different interpretation of religion for proof of that.
That's a damn cop out and you know it. Someone could say "George Bush was a coke head in college," and it could be interpreted as him being a "white devil." I could call you anything and it can be taken out of context. I'd love to see you in a real, formal debate, you'd be eaten alive! And also, calling Ann Coulter a tranny clearly shows you have horrible taste in women- she's beautiful, sexy, smart, and one helluva great conservative contributor. Look at what you libs have: Hilary, Janet Reno, Pelosi! Jeezus, you'd think that liberals were 100% men by that lineup. Cut out the bullshit "Phrases can mean different things to different people" because we all know that, and only the most depraved, thick headed, ignorant people would call racist on the Lamborn remark. And Reagan was not using that "dog whistle" shit either. Get a freaking clue, please!
Scanker19
08-03-2011, 10:44
Could someone, in one sentence, explain what a liberal and conservitaves are?
Cause part of me sees the root of the word liberal as liberty, which I was told is a good thing.
That is serious question.
Could someone, in one sentence, explain what a liberal and conservitaves are?
Cause part of me sees the root of the word liberal as liberty, which I was told is a good thing.
That is serious question.
Libs believe in more government, more programs, and more regulation; conservatives believe in less government, less spending on bs programs like welfare, and less regulation- guns, freedom, and don't give them so much power.
Scanker19
08-03-2011, 10:52
Libs believe in more government, more programs, and more regulation; conservatives believe in less government, less spending on bs programs like welfare, and less regulation- guns, freedom, and don't give them so much power.
Who says?
Zundfolge
08-03-2011, 10:53
Cause part of me sees the root of the word liberal as liberty, which I was told is a good thing.
Once upon a time "Liberal" meant small government, lots of freedom and free market capitalism.
Collectivists, stateists, "Progressives" etc co-opted the term "Liberal" back around the time of the depression (when the term "Progressive" fell out of vogue, since it was actually "Progressives" that exacerbated the problem and made it clear they wanted to eliminate our constitutional form of government and free market capitalism to "fix" things).
When we look at the original term "liberal", that term is more accurately replaced with "libertarian" today.
Modern conservatives share a lot with libertarians (even though both conservatives and libertarians would protest such a statement). But most of us that claim the moniker "conservative" are in reality more libertarian than anything else.
The big difference between liberals and libertarians is that libertarians appear "liberal" when it comes to social issues (sex, religion, drugs/alcohol, morality etc) but agree with conservatives when it comes to small government and free market capitalism.
Who says?
Ronin, it was right there in the quote. [ROFL1]
Scanker19
08-03-2011, 11:01
So I took a test online to see what I am here are the results:
You Are 55% Conservative, 45% Liberal
Social Issues: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal
Personal Responsibility: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal
Fiscal Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal
Ethics: 0% Conservative, 100% Liberal
Defense and Crime: 75% Conservative, 25% Liberal
I'm making this a new thread.
Zundfolge
08-03-2011, 11:02
Based on those results I'd say you were a left leaning libertarian.
Where did you take the test? Just curious. I also wouldn't put much stock into it, because either "side" is likely to skew the results to favor them.
Based on those results I'd say you were a left leaning libertarian.
I'm assuming you took this one http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz
If that's the place then the Advocates for Self Government is a libertarian organization and I wouldn't place my affiliations based on their results. By the way, I wouldn't for ANY organization that is not proven to be 100% non partisan and unbiased. For that matter I wouldn't take a damn test, I would study the issues, look at those who support both sides and make up my own mind. It's like getting your facts from Wikipedia.
Scanker19
08-03-2011, 11:09
But its fun, and it stimulates thought and discussion.
I don't know what I am and I don't really care. To quote Letter From Iwo Jima, do what's right, because it's right.
Then we would get into the philosophical question of what is right.
Well, I admit that I agree with you, it was fun to take the test. Apparently I'm pretty far right and WAAAAAY in the conservative viewpoint. Whoda thunk it? :).
Could someone, in one sentence, explain what a liberal and conservitaves are?Liberals are evil, unattractive, retarded and responsible for everything bad in the world; conservatives are awesome, intelligent, right about everything and have never done anything bad, ever.
Oh, I forgot one. All liberals are working towards putting everyone in gas chambers.
I think that about sums it up :D
tmleadr03
08-03-2011, 11:51
Oh ok, that makes it a lot more clear to me... nynco is psychic! Do you know for sure his intent was to code his wording? What if he was brought up with the use of the word "tar baby" and just felt comfortable using it for this situation (and no way racist)? You don't. But neither do I, but I do like to give people the benefit of the doubt and will go as far to assume that he was not intending a dual meaning, that he never intended the phrase to be taken out of context and interpreted as racist. Like I said before, being construed as racist is political suicide. This is America 2011, not 1961 where a politician can spew hateful double speak and get away with it. I'd like to believe Lamborn is smarter than that.
Seriously his idiocy is not worth the effort. Just put him on ignore and then STOP QUOTING HIM SO I DONT HAVE TO TAKE MY BP MEDS.
Liberals are evil, unattractive, retarded and responsible for everything bad in the world; conservatives are awesome, intelligent, right about everything and have never done anything bad, ever.
Oh, I forgot one. All liberals are working towards putting everyone in gas chambers.
I think that about sums it up :D
Wow Jake, I didn't realize you were so enlightened. Spot on buddy [ROFL1][Beer].
n8tive97
08-03-2011, 12:30
Riffles for life!!!!!
Riffles for life!!!!!
[ROFL2]
I just fell out of my chair at the office! That is priceless!
And sorry tmleadr03, he has me feeling like this:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g66/RyGuy1321/Vader-lackof.jpg
Bailey Guns
08-03-2011, 14:17
You might be a liberal if you're quoting from Letters From Iwo Jima.
Lamborn shouldn't have backed off from his statement, he should have re-iterated it and explained it in greater detail.
Not that any liberal is going to care or attempt to understand the parable.
Zundfolge
08-03-2011, 14:24
You might be a liberal if you're quoting from Letters From Iwo Jima.
Never saw it ... wonder what that makes me.
(I'd rather my final memory of Clint Eastwood to be Gran Torino)
tmleadr03
08-03-2011, 14:25
Lamborn shouldn't have backed off from his statement, he should have re-iterated it and explained it in greater detail.
Not that any liberal is going to care or attempt to understand the parable.
I would be willing to bet the people crying racism the loudest are the least likely to have read the story the comment came from.
Zundfolge
08-03-2011, 14:27
I would be willing to bet the people crying racism the loudest are the least likely to have read the story the comment came from.
Doesn't matter ... to the people that were crying racism, Lamborn's first racist act was being born white, his second was registering as a Republican.
I would be willing to bet the people crying racism the loudest are the least likely to have read the story the comment came from.
That is most probably a given. [Beer]
The definition of the word racist has been changed from a pejorative to a projection. It is projected onto anyone that a liberal disagrees with and it is a proof that the liberal hurling the word has run out of arguments. Liberals run out of arguments rather quickly since they are such shallow people to start with.
I would be willing to bet the people crying racism the loudest are the least likely to have read the story the comment came from.
I'll throw my hat into that pile! I also believe that anyone who cries racism these days is using it because logic escapes them... for example "You refused to vote for Obama? You must be racist!" I just retort with "You actually voted for Obama? You must be stupid [and hate America]!"
Zundfolge
08-03-2011, 14:33
I love how a white man NOT voting for Obama because he disagrees with him is a racist, but a black man voting for Obama purely because he's black isn't.
Liberal logic ... my favorite oxymoron.
I love how a white man NOT voting for Obama because he disagrees with him is a racist, but a black man voting for Obama purely because he's black isn't.
Liberal logic ... my favorite oxymoron.
+1,000,000! You took what was in my head and put it to words! The same thing goes for those LoDo beatings that were discussed a few weeks ago: "The perpetrators were black and beating up white people. A couple times racial slurs were used, but Denver Police believe that these incidents aren't racially motivated." Bullshit. If my white friends and I went around beating up black men calling them racial slurs, believe me I'd be charged with a hate crime (another stupid asinine PC, affirmative action BS legislative practice) and labeled a racist. No one anymore understands that the door of racism swings both ways.
No one anymore understands that the door of racism swings both ways.
Oh, Ronin, you are so naive my friend. Don't you know that it is impossible to be racist unless you are white? I have friends, very good friends, of many differing races, beliefs and backgrounds, yet one "tar baby" comment would put them all at unease because I, the white guy said it. The minute my non white nor non black friends throw out the N word (and I refuse to type the rest of that out on a family friendly site) it's totally cool - which is to say that white is the only race not allowed to use that word without sounding racist. It's a double standard and it's not going away soon (because if we try, guess what, we're a bunch of racists!). I'm in a race considered racist, a party considered racist - it's an uphill battle.
Oh, Ronin, you are so naive my friend. Don't you know that it is impossible to be racist unless you are white? I have friends, very good friends, of many differing races, beliefs and backgrounds, yet one "tar baby" comment would put them all at unease because I, the white guy said it. The minute my non white nor non black friends throw out the N word (and I refuse to type the rest of that out on a family friendly site) it's totally cool - which is to say that white is the only race not allowed to use that word without sounding racist. It's a double standard and it's not going away soon (because if we try, guess what, we're a bunch of racists!). I'm in a race considered racist, a party considered racist - it's an uphill battle.
Yep... you explained my comment perfectly. And really what's most funny is stuff like this:
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Awesome Ronin, thanks for the laugh, I needed that after my last post (I'm still hopping pissed).
tmleadr03
08-03-2011, 16:52
Yep... you explained my comment perfectly. And really what's most funny is stuff like this:
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LOL!
Unless of course you are trying to apply for a small business loan. Then the best thing to be is a half black, half American Indian, disabled vet.
hollohas
08-03-2011, 17:13
LOL!
Unless of course you are trying to apply for a small business loan. Then the best thing to be is a half black, half American Indian, disabled vet.
Or get into college. Are you a women? If yes then there is a scholarship superficially for that and you get an extra point on your application. Are you of any race other than "white"? If so, there is a scholarship specifically for that and you get an extra point on your application.
No points for being a white man...
And the first thing they show you in freshman orientation...a pie chart showing the different percentages of races at the school. How the F is that not segregation? Only when they take the "race" box off the application will we even have a chance of being treated equally on our merits and not our skin.
Private scholarships based on race are fine. Scholarships based on race for public funds or institutions should not happen. I feel we should fix the source of the disparity at a lower level. Meaning fix public schools to help all students and not base them so much on local tax revenue systems. Bandaids over the root problem only serves to let the wound fester.
Private scholarships based on race are fine.
Is that right Barrack? So reverse racism is fine if it's privatized? I see anything based solely on race as wrong, from not hiring someone because of race to hiring someone because of race. It's wrong, it's un-American, and it goes against everything I was raised on. My father always told me "Best man gets the job." But according to you it's best skin color gets the scholarship.
tmleadr03
08-03-2011, 22:40
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
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