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Not me but does make me miss my chipped powerstroke.
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n8tive97
08-03-2011, 11:32
Get ready MattR, you are going to get blasted by the pro bike riders here!
That was funny, not nice, but funny! [Coffee]
I know the wrath of the tree hugging hippie bicyclist is coming![Help][ROFL1]
srhcustom
08-03-2011, 11:52
That made me giggle [ROFL1]
SuperiorDG
08-03-2011, 11:52
That's as wrong as two boys @#%&ing [Rant1]
jplove71
08-03-2011, 12:24
That's as wrong as two boys @#%&ing [Rant1]
+1
People like that just make it easier for the cyclists to plead their case for pollution controls on vehicles.
Guys like that give assholes a bad name. What a prick.
That looks like Squaw pass... soo many damn cyclists that it's getting dangerous. While wrong, cyclists need to learn that roads these days are for cars, and if they don't want to follow the rules and share the road, well I know a really great florist. [Coffee]
That looks like Squaw pass... soo many damn cyclists that it's getting dangerous. While wrong, cyclists need to learn that roads these days are for cars, and if they don't want to follow the rules and share the road, well I know a really great florist. [Coffee]
In what way were those cyclists not sharing the road or following the rules? Every one I saw was riding in single file on the shoulder.
n8tive97
08-03-2011, 12:40
And so it begins......
What a prick with an inefficient pos truck. That falls in the same catagory as the guys on bikes with drag pipes that think it's funny to be loud and annoying.
blackford76
08-03-2011, 12:44
[Poke]
Man, that video is funny. A bit uncalled for, but funny. I hate inconsiderate bike riders as much as the next guy (yes, stop signs and signals are for you too dick weed), but these guys were all on the shoulder. Now, had they been in the middle of the road, well that's a whole different animal.
What a prick with an inefficient pos truck. That falls in the same catagory as the guys on bikes with drag pipes that think it's funny to be loud and annoying.
agreed
If you know how to drive, the cyclists wouldn't be a problem, just sayin. You have an 8 foot wide vehicle in a 12 or 13 foot lane, if you have problems sharing the road, maybe you should learn to drive better rather than being angry about the bicyclists taking up 2 or even 3 feet of that space.
blackford76
08-03-2011, 13:12
If you know how to drive, the cyclists wouldn't be a problem, just sayin. You have an 8 foot wide vehicle in a 12 or 13 foot lane, if you have problems sharing the road, maybe you should learn to drive better rather than being angry about the bicyclists taking up 2 or even 3 feet of that space.
That depends on where they choose to take their space. I agree that the cyclists in this specific video were all doing it right. But most of the times I have encountered them, their 2 to 3 feet were right in the middle of my 8. And more often than not, there was a dedicated bike path running right along the side of the road.
Whats a dedicated bike path? A side walk... Riding on the sidewalk is a grey area and many times cops will pull bikers over and tell them by law they need to be in the street.
patrick0685
08-03-2011, 13:47
all those cyclist were right on the white line, that guy was just a douche
All those cyclists were on the right side of the white line. I have no problem with that because that is where I ride when I roadbike.
It would have been funny if the cyclists were running 2 or 3 abreast holding up traffic and then getting smoked, that would have been funny.
Hey look, assholes come in all stripes.
I can totally see the driver being someone who would do this, laugh about it, and then get upset when someone lights up a cigarette near him.
H.
If you know how to drive, the cyclists wouldn't be a problem, just sayin. You have an 8 foot wide vehicle in a 12 or 13 foot lane, if you have problems sharing the road, maybe you should learn to drive better rather than being angry about the bicyclists taking up 2 or even 3 feet of that space.
I think one of the issues (not pertaining to the a-hole in the vid) is that cyclists don't know how to ride. I consider myself a pretty damn good driver (often times this claim gets me into trouble when telling off duty cops I can out drive them- another story for another time), and I give cyclists a little room at the cost of infringing upon oncoming lanes- just out of courtesy. But that happens when they ride their bikes nearest to the shoulder as possible. Those that take more room than they need and use more lane than is permitted I choose to give them a boost in their heart rate by coming very close to clipping them with my mirrors (but never actually make contact). Just a friendly reminder of how small they really are compared to what else travels our roads. So I say: If you pedal your ass around and take up 2 feet (or so) on a 12-13ft wide road, and you have problems sharing the road, you have no room to cry when a diesel gives you a face full of smoke because you're being an asshole.
hollohas
08-03-2011, 15:36
I laughed but those cyclists all looked to be riding like they should. Dick truck driver.
That being said, there are far to many cyclists that are dumb, inconsiderate and dangerous. Anytime you drive in downtown Denver you come across cyclists running stop signs, red lights, cutting off on-coming traffic, failing to signal, etc. Just the other day I was stopped at a 4-way stop and as I entered the intersection a cyclist comes blazing through the intersection without slowing down, just missed my bumper and he was yelling profanities at me. That same thing has happened to me more than I can count.
Or last weekend when I was driving between Pine Grove and Buffalo Creek. There is a hairpin turn near the river there with little viability. What did I see as I came around the corner, 6 cyclists (2 rows, 3 wide) in the middle of the road. The speed limit is 35mph I think and they were maybe doing half that. Good way to die dipshits. If they want to endanger their lives that's fine by me, but setting some other innocent person up to have to live with killing you for the rest of their life is BS and ignorant.
Oh, and nynco, a dedicated bike path is the area in the street between two white lines with an image of a bicycle in it...
I will play the advocate here and say on this one, the bicyclists are being very nice by not taking up the road and instead letting you pass in any way shape or form (unless there is a dedicated bike lane). You are supposed to treat them like any other vehicle under colorado law. They can without any legal problems, ride in the middle of the street and piss everyone off and there is nothing anyone can do about it unless they are riding under the minimum speed limit if there is one for the road they are on. So, really, the next time some ass hole of a biker gives you the room to get around, you should appreciate it because he legally doesn't have to, he can make you and everyone else go his speed.
DSB OUTDOORS
08-03-2011, 16:03
That depends on where they choose to take their space. I agree that the cyclists in this specific video were all doing it right. But most of the times I have encountered them, their 2 to 3 feet were right in the middle of my 8. And more often than not, there was a dedicated bike path running right along the side of the road.
+1 ^^^ In our neck of the woods it's different. Check out the "Deer Creek Challenge" web sight!!!! And how much area they ride! Not only on the day of the event. Spring, Summer, Fall almost every day, especialy on the weekends!! Bike after bike. Pissing and littering in everyones driveway etc.
I think one of the issues (not pertaining to the a-hole in the vid) is that cyclists don't know how to ride. I consider myself a pretty damn good driver (often times this claim gets me into trouble when telling off duty cops I can out drive them- another story for another time), and I give cyclists a little room at the cost of infringing upon oncoming lanes- just out of courtesy. But that happens when they ride their bikes nearest to the shoulder as possible. Those that take more room than they need and use more lane than is permitted I choose to give them a boost in their heart rate by coming very close to clipping them with my mirrors (but never actually make contact). Just a friendly reminder of how small they really are compared to what else travels our roads. So I say: If you pedal your ass around and take up 2 feet (or so) on a 12-13ft wide road, and you have problems sharing the road, you have no room to cry when a diesel gives you a face full of smoke because you're being an asshole.
+1 also. My next truck will be a Diesel and I will not feel bad for the cyclists. The Colorado bike pricks are the worst! They think they own all the roads up here. More than 5 times this year I've had to follow this same group riding 4 wide and 6 - 8 deep. And they will NOT even budge to let you by! Do I feel bad NO!! A high speed buzz is some times nessary to wake them up! IMO.
UberTong
08-03-2011, 16:08
Man, that video is funny. A bit uncalled for, but funny. I hate inconsiderate bike riders as much as the next guy (yes, stop signs and signals are for you too dick weed), but these guys were all on the shoulder. Now, had they been in the middle of the road, well that's a whole different animal.
Agree with Ranger on this one. I have no problem with cyclists sharing the road, but obey the law if you're going to operate on it. Daily in my area I see cyclists run red lights, ride across Broadway in traffic etc.
As someone who was run off the road by a redneck douchebag with a truck when I was a kid, I can understand why the bikes stick in a pack 4 wide 6 deep. Safety...
The asshole who ran me off did it on purpose and my choice was get clipped by his truck or get run into a set of garbage cans. I went into the cans and flipped end over end a few times because I was tied into my bike. It was not pretty.
You are safe in your car, that car is just like a loaded gun. You should treat it that way too.
I've had to follow this same group riding 4 wide and 6 - 8 deep. And they will NOT even budge to let you by! Do I feel bad NO!! A high speed buzz is some times nessary to wake them up! IMO.
The problem is now they are entitled since the Colorado law passed making it a law that you have to give them a wide berth. I've personally noticed many bike riders really being even MORE of a road hog or entitled prick since this law went into effect. Don't get me wrong, I've got nothing against any bike rider that obeys the traffic law and is not just courteous but also mindful that they are sharing the road with motorists - the problem is that so many are neither obeying the law nor sharing the road and that is what gets under my skin.
Seriously, to all of you bike riders - why do you have the right to be in the street at all if you cannot match the speed limit? I'm sure many people would have no problem with you being IN THE ROAD (not talking about bike lanes or shoulders here) if you would just do the speed limit and not be such a dick about cars passing you and honking.
Personally I feel that if there isn't a bike lane that bikes don't belong on the road. Maybe that makes me a jerk for saying so, but I've been in more than one traffic jam because ONE bicycler was doing 30 under on the road.
I will play the advocate here and say on this one, the bicyclists are being very nice by not taking up the road and instead letting you pass in any way shape or form (unless there is a dedicated bike lane). You are supposed to treat them like any other vehicle under colorado law. They can without any legal problems, ride in the middle of the street and piss everyone off and there is nothing anyone can do about it unless they are riding under the minimum speed limit if there is one for the road they are on. So, really, the next time some ass hole of a biker gives you the room to get around, you should appreciate it because he legally doesn't have to, he can make you and everyone else go his speed.
Ok, but there is no law stating I can't lay on my horn and flash my lights for vehicles doing GROSSLY UNDER THE LIMIT. So next time I'll respect his right to use his 1-man-power vehicle on a road normally used by internal combustion engine vehicles, but he has to respect the fact that I get pretty peeved if someone is doing 10 in a 45... and thus will let him know that my horn is properly working.
So are you advocating spending tax money to put a bike lane on all roads now? Are you willing to raise taxes to pay for that? If not, learn to share...
Ok, but there is no law stating I can't lay on my horn and flash my lights for vehicles doing GROSSLY UNDER THE LIMIT. So next time I'll respect his right to use his 1-man-power vehicle on a road normally used by internal combustion engine vehicles, but he has to respect the fact that I get pretty peeved if someone is doing 10 in a 45... and thus will let him know that my horn is properly working.
No, I understand completey, trust me. Here when you go over the monument you usually get stuck behind some prick who rides dead center (well not every time, but it has happened to me twice already this year). That kind of shit makes me appreciate those that are nice and use the side of the road mainly because they don't have to and they are just being nice by doing it.
The guy in the truck was being a dick.With that said, I have a real problem with people riding their bicycles on narrow mountain roads that have no shoulders. That shouldn't be allowed. Just my .02
On a side note, I saw a bike vs motorcycle accident come through the ER one day. The bike rider apparently was fine and got on his bike and rode away. He only bounced off the windshield of the bike. The motorcycle riders (wife husband single bike) got the worst of it. They bounced off the side of the mountain a little. Broken pelvis and other issues.
[Roll1]
In what way were those cyclists not sharing the road or following the rules? Every one I saw was riding in single file on the shoulder.
Wonder what the banter would be if those were motorbikes?
mcantar18c
08-03-2011, 19:00
The guy in the truck was being a dick.With that said, I have a real problem with people riding their bicycles on narrow mountain roads that have no shoulders. That shouldn't be allowed. Just my .02
OK, please explain this to me. Why shouldn't it be allowed?
Because its dangerous to be balancing on two 1" wide contact patches on the ground going 20-30 mph next to a hundreds-of-feet long drop? Or because its annoying to have to go around them.
If the former... why outlaw stupid? They choose to ride next to a cliff, I have no sympathy when they fall down the cliff. Outlaw stupid, and you just get more of it... they breed too, ya know. Let stupid be stupid, and eventually the problem just goes away.
If the latter... just make it painfully clear that if they want to be considered a motor vehicle and share the road with things that have engines, they have to abide by the SAME rules that cars and real bikes do. They'll think twice about it.
THe Yetti
08-03-2011, 20:51
Just to preface this, I ride a bike. I don't ride it where there is not room to ride without obstructing traffic.
Roads are built for the purpose of transportation, and are built with taxes paid on vehicle registrations and fuel. Cyclists don't pay any of these fees. They are not required to have a license, and they do not follow traffic laws. They use the road for recreation at everyone's risk. I can't set up a hockey goal or a basketball hoop in the middle of the highway and expect to be safe and protected by law. Other than cycling, recreation on the highway is not permitted.
I understand cycling for transportation. Please try to operate whatever vehicle you have chosen in a way that will not get you killed. Cars>bikes.
Daniel_187
08-03-2011, 21:13
Ha Ha Ha love it. I would have slowed down and really chugged it out on most of them
DSB OUTDOORS
08-03-2011, 21:15
Ha Ha Ha love it. I would have slowed down and really chugged it out on most of them
^^^^^ You go boy!! Me too! [Coffee]
palepainter
08-03-2011, 21:18
If the former... why outlaw stupid? They choose to ride next to a cliff, I have no sympathy when they fall down the cliff. Outlaw stupid, and you just get more of it... they breed too, ya know. Let stupid be stupid, and eventually the problem just goes away.
Isn't this the truth, natural selection should be evenly applied. :)
Half Live
08-03-2011, 21:21
Whats a dedicated bike path? A side walk... Riding on the sidewalk is a grey area and many times cops will pull bikers over and tell them by law they need to be in the street.
Wow really? A dedicated bike path is a path only for bikes, usually a section of road that is next to the curb. Is it really that hard to figure that out?
And since I'm being nice tonight here is a picture of one for you to see.
http://richmondva.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/bike-lanes.jpg
low drag
08-03-2011, 21:32
I ride road bikes, I ride on mountain roads etc.
The guy in the truck was rude but not a danger.
I've had people buzz me in cars/trucks and motorcycles (of all things) when there was plenty of road to my left and I'm hugging the white line and no cars coming the other way. Not many times but enough for me to consider bringing my J frame along on rides.
I stop at lights etc, I will loose every time if a car hits me.
I admit, if I'm climbing a difficult grade I may wander off the white line when I'm working hard. A simple hit of the horn brings me in line.
If I see a group riding 3-4 wide etc I say something to them if I can. They get drivers pissed and they take it out on me.
So are you advocating spending tax money to put a bike lane on all roads now? Are you willing to raise taxes to pay for that? If not, learn to share...
nynco-m-poop: refer to this please:
Roads are built for the purpose of transportation, and are built with taxes paid on vehicle registrations and fuel. Cyclists don't pay any of these fees. They are not required to have a license, and they do not follow traffic laws. They use the road for recreation at everyone's risk. I can't set up a hockey goal or a basketball hoop in the middle of the highway and expect to be safe and protected by law. Other than cycling, recreation on the highway is not permitted.
Yetti is 100% correct and I didn't even realize that. Sure you pay sales tax when you buy your huffy (or whatever cyclists ride these days, haven't put my ass in that saddle for over 10 years), but fuel and DMV Registration goes almost exclusively to federal, state, county and city roads and maintenance.
That kind of shit makes me appreciate those that are nice and use the side of the road mainly because they don't have to and they are just being nice by doing it.
Actually on HWY 66 (Squaw Pass Road) between Evergreen and Idaho Springs there are signs that show a car next to a bike and say share the road and others that ask cyclists to ride single file, and I know a couple of Clear Creek County Deputies who have stopped cyclists to give them warnings (because an actual citation with a fine would have been a big dick move) and kinda look out for them stating the dangers that come with riding on a widely used and narrow with large drop offs road. So no, they technically don't have to, but I know too many guys up here in the mountains that would be a bit more than peeved if they had to pull spandex clad remains out of the grilles of their trucks (and we're not talking your dad's old Cummins, we're talking big Mack dump trucks and end dumps).
Robby30-06
08-03-2011, 22:01
Obviously i am now working on a turret mount for my road bike. And no I'm not a tree hugging hippie. OK, some cyclists are arrogant a-holes who could use a lesson but most don't deserve this immature bullshit!!
blackford76
08-03-2011, 22:52
So are you advocating spending tax money to put a bike lane on all roads now? Are you willing to raise taxes to pay for that? If not, learn to share...
I DO pay extra...fuel tax and registration fees. As a kid I rode my bike everywhere, I still ride with my kids, and up here with all the blind corners and narrow shoulders, we get as far over as possible, and stop to allow cars to go by. Laws, regulations and all the other crap that you think protects you will not be worth shit in a car/truck vs. bicycle accident.
Most all bike riders drive cars and pay those taxes too. So the part about not paying taxes is not really a good line of thinking. Further bikes don't really damage roads like a Semi will.
Either way.... check this out.
Frustrated Lithuanian Mayor Boards Tank, Crushes Car to Send Pro-Bike Message
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/02/frustrated-mayor-boards-tank-crushes-car-to-send-message/
Ronin, I would also appreciate if you don't call me nynco-m-poop. I don't run around making childish jokes about your screen name and I pretty much give you respect always. So keep it above board. Respect man[Beer]
mcantar18c
08-04-2011, 00:12
Most all bike riders drive cars and pay those taxes too. So the part about not paying taxes is not really a good line of thinking. Further bikes don't really damage roads like a Semi will.
Bicycles also don't keep your grocery stores stocked and your gas station from going dry. Truck drivers/companies should be exempt from taxes IMO.
Bicycles also don't keep your grocery stores stocked and your gas station from going dry. Truck drivers/companies should be exempt from taxes IMO.
Trucks tear up the road. Why should only cars pay? Everyone pays based on fuel consumption. Bigger uses more and beats the road harder. Sorry bad reasoning to me.
mcantar18c
08-04-2011, 00:20
Trucks tear up the road. Why should only cars pay? Everyone pays based on fuel consumption. Bigger uses more and beats the road harder. Sorry bad reasoning to me.
Are you not reading? Which part of this doesn't make sense?
Bicycles also don't keep your grocery stores stocked and your gas station from going dry. Truck drivers/companies should be exempt from taxes IMO.
Unless you want to go out and hunt all of your meat yourself, raise cattle for your burgers and milk, raise chickens for your drumsticks and eggs, and grow your own corn/wheat/rice/tobacco/etc.... you rely on trucks and the guys (and gals) who drive em to get you what you need. They contribute immensely to society, at the cost of a bit more wear and tear on the roads than your standard vehicle. Cars also wear the roads down, however they don't contribute to the well-being of society in doing so, so yes they should pay taxes to maintain them.
Sorry, I don't agree. Ironically, I bet you argue for a flat tax over a progressive tax rate too. Am I correct?
blackford76
08-04-2011, 00:27
Um...what does this have to do with the OP?
While we are de-railed, can you name 5 things you use every day that weren't delivered by a truck?
mcantar18c
08-04-2011, 00:30
Correct. A flat tax rate across all income groups or levels whatever you'd like to call them is a much better system than the BS we have now where the wealthy carry the country and the turds on welfare suck the life out of the system.
And before you ask, I'm on the low end of the spectrum. I've been unemployed for the last 9 months and didn't try to get welfare or food stamps or unemployment or anything like that, instead I spent my time and energy looking for a decent job and working odd jobs to be able to eat and pay bills. An old .22 was my means of food for a couple weeks there. I just got a job last week that pays $8 an hour, which is bullshit for someone with the experience, work ethic, and skill set that I have but this is what it's come to. Too bad the military doesn't start paying till after you ship out. Point is though, I'm not annoyed about the wealthy paying more taxes than the rest of us because I am one.
So why are you against a flat tax on fuel? Sorry, but to exclude trucks because they deliver stuff to me is not a good enough reason. What you are doing is shifting the tax burden on the middle class and allowing big business to shirk its obligations. Sorry, I don't want to pay more taxes so that wallstreet gets more profit. If anything we should charge trucks and let cars off for free. After all, don't consumers always pay for taxes on business in the end. At least that is what the conservatives try to tell me.
I think you personally are just trying to get out of paying taxes so you can pad your pocket. While in the same breath arguing for a flat tax rate. Kinda hypocritical if you ask me.
So why are you against a flat tax on fuel? Sorry, but to exclude trucks because they deliver stuff to me is not a good enough reason. What you are doing is shifting the tax burden on the middle class and allowing big business to shirk its obligations. Sorry, I don't want to pay more taxes so that wallstreet gets more profit. If anything we should charge trucks and let cars off for free. After all, don't consumers always pay for taxes on business in the end. At least that is what the conservatives try to tell me.
I think you personally are just trying to get out of paying taxes so you can pad your pocket. While in the same breath arguing for a flat tax rate. Kinda hypocritical if you ask me.
let cars off for free...[Luck]
you did not answer blackfords question. with out trucks america WOULD come to a complete screeching halt.
mcantar18c
08-04-2011, 00:50
Shift it to the middle class? Right, cause most truckers are just rolling in $100 bills [ROFL1]
As for wanting to get out of paying taxes myself... did you not see the part where I could have gotten on welfare, food stamps (still could actually) and haven't? Yes, I do believe that I along with the rest of the military should also be exempt from taxes while we serve, but only while serving... not before or after. And yes, I would believe this even if it didn't apply to me. I'm not and have never been a truck driver (I've driven semis, but not for delivering goods for public use), but I can appreciate the importance of them and how much they contribute to you and I.
As Blackford said... try to think of 5 things that you use daily that aren't provided to you by guys driving across states to bring them to you.
blackford76
08-04-2011, 00:51
Well, maybe because everything gets moved by trucks, if they get a tax cut, then prices will be lower for delivering them, then prices on everything would be less. Have you priced a truck? Lots of tax dollars raised to register it and maintain it.
I did not derail it. I just responded. As to naming things that trucks don't transport. I am under no illusion as to the impact trucks have on my daily life. I fear what the world will look like if there is an oil crisis. Things are far worse today than in 1970's. I have no issue with truckers either. Its not an easy job. But that does not mean that I think they should not have to pay fuel taxes like everyone else. If anything it proves that bikers pay fuel taxes through the higher prices on all items they use because of truckers passing on costs.
Well, maybe because everything gets moved by trucks, if they get a tax cut, then prices will be lower for delivering them, then prices on everything would be less. Have you priced a truck? Lots of tax dollars raised to register it and maintain it.
$120,000 for a basic new linehaul Kenworth. [Beer]
mcantar18c
08-04-2011, 00:53
Well, maybe because everything gets moved by trucks, if they get a tax cut, then prices will be lower for delivering them, then prices on everything would be less. Have you priced a truck? Lots of tax dollars raised to register it and maintain it.
Now there's an excellent point.
How much of a products price is marked up to pay for transportation? Betchya prices of lots of things would go down if the cost of getting them to ya went down.
mcantar18c
08-04-2011, 00:55
$120,000 for a basic new linehaul Kenworth. [Beer]
You can keep your newfangled Kenworths...
I'll take a longnose Pete over one of them anyday.
Now there's an excellent point.
How much of a products price is marked up to pay for transportation? Betchya prices of lots of things would go down if the cost of getting them to ya went down.
I bet ya not much. We were told the same thing with NAFTA. What happened.... wallstreet pocketed it.
Sorry there is no free lunch. Roads cost money. The gov fairy can't pay for roads with libertarian magic dust.
I did not derail it. I just responded. As to naming things that trucks don't transport. I am under no illusion as to the impact trucks have on my daily life. I fear what the world will look like if there is an oil crisis. Things are far worse today than in 1970's. I have no issue with truckers either. Its not an easy job. But that does not mean that I think they should not have to pay fuel taxes like everyone else. If anything it proves that bikers pay fuel taxes through the higher prices on all items they use because of truckers passing on costs.
last OT post going to bed...
Flawed logic/analogy. I am not in the state of mind (13 hr shift working on trucks) to formulate an intelligent response that will not be torn to pieces. Some one back me up.
You can keep your newfangled Kenworths...
I'll take a longnose Pete over one of them anyday.
damn it mason I am trying to go to bed and you have to bring this subject up.
Nope not gonna bite.
mcantar18c
08-04-2011, 01:01
I bet ya not much. We were told the same thing with NAFTA. What happened.... wallstreet pocketed it.
Sorry there is no free lunch. Roads cost money. The gov fairy can't pay for roads with libertarian magic dust.
Aren't YOU a self-proclaimed libertarian?
damn it mason I am trying to go to bed and you have to bring this subject up.
Nope not gonna bite.
Bite, beeyotch!
From Truckfest:
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/37981_1363065236739_1234849653_30812476_2753856_n. jpg
And my wet dream...
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/37981_1363065316741_1234849653_30812478_7200788_n. jpg
:D
blackford76
08-04-2011, 01:01
You want to help divert an oil crisis? Get rid of the EPA.
20 years ago a new KW with a Detroit series 60 averaged 12 mpg, and went over 600k miles before needing major engine work. Today's EPA "clean" diesel only manages 7mpg, tops, and requires 2x the maintenance.
blackford76
08-04-2011, 01:06
Aren't YOU a self-proclaimed libertarian?
Bite, beeyotch!
From Truckfest:
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/37981_1363065236739_1234849653_30812476_2753856_n. jpg
And my wet dream...
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/37981_1363065316741_1234849653_30812478_7200788_n. jpg
:D
Dang...that thing is gross[Coffee]
Nothin' finer than a W9!!!
blackford76
08-04-2011, 01:08
Now wait a minute...where did the pic of the ugly orange one go? The blue Pete is ok.
mcantar18c
08-04-2011, 01:08
Dang...that thing is gross[Coffee]
Nothin' finer than a W9!!!
I'll take a Mack over a W9 [Puke]
mcantar18c
08-04-2011, 01:09
Now wait a minute...where did the pic of the ugly orange one go? The blue Pete is ok.
That was a filler from google to get Paul to bite while I dug through my Facebook photos from Truck Fest a year or two ago.
blackford76
08-04-2011, 01:12
Well, dang. The grey one doesn't do anything for me.
A Mack??? You can't be serious. Besides, KW and Pete's share a lot of dna.
mcantar18c
08-04-2011, 01:17
Yeah... but a Kenworth is still a Kenworth [Tooth]
You have to see the truck in person, the pics don't really do it justice. I'll see if I can find a pic of the entire thing and the interior. The interior was jaw-dropping.
blackford76
08-04-2011, 01:21
Chevy-GMC, KW-Peterbuilt.
mcantar18c
08-04-2011, 01:28
Ewww.... Chevy [Puke]
Ok pics....
http://www.customrigsmag.com/files/2010/08/Outlaw-Customs-500x332.jpg
http://www.westerntruckparts.com/mediafiles/outlaw-customs-vigilante.jpg
http://www.westerntruckparts.com/mediafiles/outlaw-vigilante-peterbilt.jpg
http://www.westerntruckparts.com/mediafiles/big-rig-build-off-winning-outlaw-customs-vigilante.jpg
low drag
08-04-2011, 05:38
Um...what does this have to do with the OP?
While we are de-railed, can you name 5 things you use every day that weren't delivered by a truck?
I pay for those services, period. Because the goods that I pay for were delivered by a truck does not give a truck driver the right to threaten my life because I'm on a bike.
Straighten out your thinking.
mcantar18c
08-04-2011, 06:16
I pay for those services, period. Because the goods that I pay for were delivered by a truck does not give a truck driver the right to threaten my life because I'm on a bike.
Straighten out your thinking.
We're talking about taxes.
But how does a truck threaten your life?
low drag
08-04-2011, 06:35
We're talking about taxes.
But how does a truck threaten your life?
In a previous post I stated how I’ve been swerved at by vehicles, they play “how close can I get my mirror to his head” etc. No sense in reposting it all here.
Bottom line, I pay taxes just like everyone else. I also pay for the goods and services that pay a truck driver’s salary. Get over it. I'm going to use the road. Where you need to get worked up is when I don't follow the rules/law.
How do I feel threatened? Simple a one ton plus vehicle buzzing me at who knows how fast. It’s aggressive, period. Try that on a cop car with a cement truck, semi etc and continue driving. See how long it takes for them to use deadly force to make you stop.
Again, I’ve considered carrying my alloy J frame after reading all this I and giving it more serious thought.
n8tive97
08-04-2011, 06:42
Ronin, I would also appreciate if you don't call me nynco-m-poop. I don't run around making childish jokes about your screen name and I pretty much give you respect always. So keep it above board. Respect man[Beer]
While we are on this subject, I would appreciate it if YOU wouldn't steal fellow member's signature lines, I had to change mine because of it!
Respect man [Beer]
Glock Shooter
08-04-2011, 06:54
Interesting read. Had only one thought..... (couldn't figure out how to embed the video here...help)
http://youtu.be/n7zfnbdyAW8
OK, please explain this to me. Why shouldn't it be allowed?
Because its dangerous to be balancing on two 1" wide contact patches on the ground going 20-30 mph next to a hundreds-of-feet long drop? Or because its annoying to have to go around them.
If the former... why outlaw stupid? They choose to ride next to a cliff, I have no sympathy when they fall down the cliff. Outlaw stupid, and you just get more of it... they breed too, ya know. Let stupid be stupid, and eventually the problem just goes away.
If the latter... just make it painfully clear that if they want to be considered a motor vehicle and share the road with things that have engines, they have to abide by the SAME rules that cars and real bikes do. They'll think twice about it.
I totally agree with the stupidity, Its freakin scary for two vehicles to meet each other on a blind curve on Red Mountain pass with a bicycle in between.[Help]
Just to preface this, I ride a bike. I don't ride it where there is not room to ride without obstructing traffic.
Roads are built for the purpose of transportation, and are built with taxes paid on vehicle registrations and fuel. Cyclists don't pay any of these fees. They are not required to have a license, and they do not follow traffic laws. They use the road for recreation at everyone's risk. I can't set up a hockey goal or a basketball hoop in the middle of the highway and expect to be safe and protected by law. Other than cycling, recreation on the highway is not permitted.
I understand cycling for transportation. Please try to operate whatever vehicle you have chosen in a way that will not get you killed. Cars>bikes.
Agreed, OH SANE ONE all cyclists and drivers should have that attitude.[Beer]
hollohas
08-04-2011, 09:19
Ewww.... Chevy [Puke]
Ok pics....
http://www.customrigsmag.com/files/2010/08/Outlaw-Customs-500x332.jpg
That thing is sick...
PS - I think I would pee a little if I saw that thing roaring down behind me on some dark two-lane road...
While we are on this subject, I would appreciate it if YOU wouldn't steal fellow member's signature lines, I had to change mine because of it!
Respect man [Beer]
How'd I steal anyone's signature line? The jokes on me.... I wrote it originally.
hollohas
08-04-2011, 09:25
Most all bike riders drive cars and pay those taxes too. So the part about not paying taxes is not really a good line of thinking.
Um yes, but they don't pay taxes and fees for their bicycle to use the road. You don't pay taxes and fees for one of your cars to use the roads and get your other cars for free do you? So why do bikes get to use it for free?
And furthermore, why no accident insurance and license required to operate a bicycle on the road? They legally get the same use of the road as cars so why not have to follow the same rules? I have to get a separate license, registration and insurance to operate my motorcycle on the roads but bicycles don't...? Doesn't make sense...
UberTong
08-04-2011, 09:28
Ya, you did come up with Riffles nynco. I put riffles for life on the hoodie and was the first to say that one, but saul good I like the sig. [Beer]
UberTong
08-04-2011, 09:30
Um yes, but they don't pay taxes and fees for their bicycle to use the road. You don't pay taxes and fees for one of your cars to use the roads and get your other cars for free do you? So why do bikes get to use it for free?
And furthermore, why no accident insurance and license required to operate a bicycle on the road? They legally get the same use of the road as cars so why not have to follow the same rules? I have to get a separate license, registration and insurance to operate my motorcycle on the roads but bicycles don't...? Doesn't make sense...
Great point hollohas. If you want to use the road, at a much slower pace and not pay attention to traffic laws, i.e. red lights, crosswalks, etc, they should be required to carry insurance just as any other vehicle is that operates on a public roadway.
n8tive97
08-04-2011, 09:40
How'd I steal anyone's signature line? The jokes on me.... I wrote it originally.
Negative sir, you didn't write "Riffles for life", you called me a Riffle. Don't make me pull the libtard card my man. I know it is hard for you liberals to accept responsibility for anything, but you are factually wrong.
Delfuego
08-04-2011, 09:45
You guys sound like a bunch of pricks! Why don't you get off your fat-asses and ride a bike, and your tune will change pretty-damn-quick. Your basically joking about killing someone riding a bicycle. Real fucking funny!
Go ride a bicycle in this state, I DARE YOU...
If this was a thread about motorist being dicks to motorcyclists, your guys would be raging on DF motorists and truck drivers. But since none of you fatties has been on a bicycle in 20-30 years its OK.
And how the hell did you derail this thread to Taxes & NAFTA in 4 pages boggles the mind!
Rant over!
StagLefty
08-04-2011, 09:49
While we are on this subject, I would appreciate it if YOU wouldn't steal fellow member's signature lines, I had to change mine because of it!
Respect man [Beer]
How'd I steal anyone's signature line? The jokes on me.... I wrote it originally.
Negative sir, you didn't write "Riffles for life", you called me a Riffle. Don't make me pull the libtard card my man. I know it is hard for you liberals to accept responsibility for anything, but you are factually wrong.
[Pop] [Pepsi]
hollohas
08-04-2011, 09:54
You guys sound like a bunch of pricks! Why don't you get off your fat-asses and ride a bike, and your tune will change pretty-damn-quick. Your basically joking about killing someone riding a bicycle. Real fucking funny!
Go ride a bicycle in this state, I DARE YOU...
If this was a thread about motorist being dicks to motorcyclists, your guys would be raging on DF motorists and truck drivers. But since none of you fatties has been on a bicycle in 20-30 years its OK.
And how the hell did you derail this thread to Taxes & NAFTA in 4 pages boggles the mind!
Rant over!
Whoa cowboy. Not all people that don't ride bicycles are fatties...that's not the only way to workout you know...
N8tive, I have no clue what you are taking about. The Riffle joke came from me making a spelling error. I have never called anyone a riffle and the only time I have used the term was in association with the original joke at my expense. http://co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43260&highlight=nynco
UberTong
08-04-2011, 10:01
You guys sound like a bunch of pricks! Why don't you get off your fat-asses and ride a bike, and your tune will change pretty-damn-quick. Your basically joking about killing someone riding a bicycle. Real fucking funny!
Go ride a bicycle in this state, I DARE YOU...
If this was a thread about motorist being dicks to motorcyclists, your guys would be raging on DF motorists and truck drivers. But since none of you fatties has been on a bicycle in 20-30 years its OK.
And how the hell did you derail this thread to Taxes & NAFTA in 4 pages boggles the mind!
Rant over!
I didn't joke about killing cyclists, and frankly you can calm the fuck down. We had a debate about sharing the road, the laws applying to cyclists and motorists, and you write this? You wanna call someone a fat ass, you fucking bring it you prick. Go put your skin tight Vodafone race cyclist shirt on and we can have a powerlifting competition or an arm wrestling match and I'll see who's a fatass then.
Whoa cowboy. Not all people that don't ride bicycles are fatties...that's not the only way to workout you know...
+1
n8tive97
08-04-2011, 10:01
N8tive, I have no clue what you are taking about. The Riffle joke came from me making a spelling error. I have never called anyone a riffle and the only time I have used the term was in association with the original joke at my expense. http://co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43260&highlight=nynco
Obviously...... [Bang][Rant1][Bang][Rant1][Bang][Rant1][Bang][Rant1][Bang] %^$%^#$%#!!!!!!!!!!!! Liberal smart, commen sense dumb!
Back to the thread subject, be nice to our fellow bikers....
Delfuego
08-04-2011, 10:04
Back to the thread subject, be nice to our fellow bikers.... Second that![Beer]
n8tive97
08-04-2011, 10:09
Second that![Beer]
Just to be honest, I dont ride a bike unless it has a motor, i'm too fat! [ROFL1]
We all should just realize that those fello Coloradians riding bikes are someone's Mom, Dad, Brother, Sister, Son or Daughter..... We would all feel like shit if we were to hit one.
You guys sound like a bunch of pricks! Why don't you get off your fat-asses and ride a bike, and your tune will change pretty-damn-quick. Your basically joking about killing someone riding a bicycle. Real fucking funny!
Go ride a bicycle in this state, I DARE YOU...
If this was a thread about motorist being dicks to motorcyclists, your guys would be raging on DF motorists and truck drivers. But since none of you fatties has been on a bicycle in 20-30 years its OK.
And how the hell did you derail this thread to Taxes & NAFTA in 4 pages boggles the mind!
Rant over!
I'd give this rant a solid 7 out of 10. Bonus points for "fatties", but could have used more profanity.
H.
Just to be honest, I dont ride a bike unless it has a motor, i'm to fat! [ROFL1]
We all should just realize that those fello Coloradians riding bikes are someone's Mom, Dad, Brother, Sister, Son or Daughter..... We would all feel like shit if we were to hit one.
agreed
Just to be honest, I dont ride a bike unless it has a motor, i'm to fat! [ROFL1]
We all should just realize that those fello Coloradians riding bikes are someone's Mom, Dad, Brother, Sister, Son or Daughter..... We would all feel like shit if we were to hit one.
Agreed, but someone's mom, dad, sister, etc. is still an asshole if they don't share the road and hold up traffic. I read a study that showed if one person drives 10MPH under the speed limit and slows down 15 cars behind them, causing them to be later than they originally anticipated for work the productivity of 15 different businesses dips below acceptable levels... its a matter of math and logic. So conversely, if one asshat cyclist decides not to move over to allow traffic to go 35 instead of 15 on the road they could be responsible for the loss of MILLIONS of dollars in missed or not completed work... thus, it's just plain common courtesy for people on bikes to move out of the way for cars. It only takes one prick to decide they're not going to let some cyclist be a complete ass and then the rules of the sea come in (bigger boat should have right of way- because the bigger boat ALWAYS wins). I'm not advocating treat bikes like lower forms of life, I'm advocating if a bike is in the middle of the road, regardless of what the law says, they're a piece of shit and should get off the road. I've lived in several states, visited even more, and Colorado is the WORST in regards to how many cyclists are on the road and how many of said cyclists don't obey the traffic laws that they should. I don't give a good god damn if they feel they have the right of way- registration tax, fuel tax, and automotive sales tax are paid so cars can use the roads... I don't see bicycle tax so they can, so their using the road doesn't give them the right to infringe on traffic and use as much road as they want. Cyclists should just be kind, share the road, and only get mad at the asshole drivers.
Delfuego- I have a stationary bike at home to get my exercise- that way I don't have to brave the roads and piss people off.
Low Drag- carry your gun, but beware using it... you get a mock clip with a mirror and draw and fire, that's 1+ tons of steel that would turn you into street spaghetti pretty quick... at least that's what I'd do if a cyclist fired at me. No one has the right to harm other, and it's a double edged sword.
http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/0903/derailed-train-derailed-thread-demotivational-poster-1237346157.jpg
UberTong
08-04-2011, 10:27
I give the rant a 1/10. A grown man referring to all others who do not ride a bicycle in this post as 'fatties'. That kinda shit will get you hit in real life.
Does anybody know why they paint Detroits green?
So they can hide in the grass when the Cats come by!
Delfuego
08-04-2011, 10:34
I read a study...Sure you did bro... I think I read that same study...
Sorry about the lack of profanity, doctor said it was bad for my colon...[Flower]
Uh oh, I think Uber may have a weight problem....
UberTong
08-04-2011, 10:44
Sure you did bro... I think I read that same study...
Sorry about the lack of profanity, doctor said it was bad for my colon...[Flower]
Uh oh, I think Uber may have a weight problem....
You're a prick plain and simple. You think that shit is funny? I'm 6'5'' 380lbs, no shame in it either. You obviously have a problem running your male rooster-sucker too much.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4517681783_83bc18ecca.jpg
Daniel_187:
“Ha Ha Ha love it. I would have slowed down and really chugged it out on most of them”
DSB OUTDOORS:
“^^^^^ You go boy!! Me too!”
So, what you are both saying is that you would be proud to act like the asshole in that video. Committing acts of aggression against people doing you no harm at all is the sort of behavior that might one day get you a little bit of well-deserved ‘frontier justice’.
You would do well to remember that, while the cyclist cannot do anything to you at the time (except shoot you if you really endanger or piss him off enough), he or she can read your license plate. They can also catch up to you in really heavy traffic; I had to hand out a few lessons in road manners to repeat offenders when I cycle-commuted in Phoenix. A cyclist can find you, but you cannot find the cyclist; if you are enough of an ass, the cyclist can get revenge at his or her convenience.
Not all who ride are tree-hugging lefties. Today, cross-training with boxing and weights is common. This, combined with the fitness level of a long-distance cyclist and righteous anger can give a surprising edge in a fight. Some cyclists are quite well prepared to shoot back, sometimes literally. Remember that the driver’s actions will be seen by the law to be a contributing factor if it comes to a fight, ruling out the typically out-of-shape rude driver’s resort to lawful deadly force. Our hypothetical rude driver (if armed) would be forced to choose between jail time or a good beating. Something to think about when tempted to be rude while driving…
Ronin13:
The law currently requires ANY slow-moving vehicle to pull off the road when too many other vehicles are backed up behind it - bicycles are vehicles according to Colorado Revised Statutes and are definitely subject to that law.
Let's leave traffic enforcement to the traffic cops - perhaps if they (the police) could be persuaded to be more concerned about public safety than ticket revenue, a few more citations could be handed out to errant cyclists. Your 'bigger boat' analogy, if applied by the 'bigger boat' against a cyclist would result in vehicular manslaughter charges against the driver. In a crowded traffic situation, there would be no shortage of witnesses.
n8tive97
08-04-2011, 10:53
Does anybody know why they paint Detroits green?
So they can hide in the grass when the Cats come by!
[Poke]
hollohas
08-04-2011, 10:54
I'd still like to hear why cyclists by law get the same use of the road as vehicles but don't have to share any of the liability or responsibility such as registration, license or insurance...all they have to share is part of the asphalt while the rest of the motorists share all of the burden...
I got called fat!
BAN HIM!
Delfuego
08-04-2011, 11:00
Oh the BURDEN...
Not your burden so quit bringing BS about YOUR roads, and insurance and registration. And I thought people on this board were against big government and taxes?
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/bikeped/bp-guid.htm
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/bikeped/bp-broch.htm
http://www.peopleforbikes.org/blog/entry/federal_funding_101_how_does_federal_funding_help_ bicycling
hollohas
08-04-2011, 11:10
I didn't say shit about MY roads. I'll give you an example of what I am talking about. It's not about fucking taxes.
I good friend of mine was legally crossing an intersection in his truck. A cyclist ran a stop sign and t-boned his truck. This cyclist went through the extended cab window of the truck and ended up in the backseat. The guy drove him to the hospital.
Did the cyclist have insurance that is required for ALL other vehicles on the road? Nope. Did the cyclist have a license to operate his "vehicle" on the road like ALL the other vehicles on the road? NOPE.
Was the cyclist ticketed? NOPE. Did the cyclist have liability to pay for the damage to his truck or insurance to cover it as it was his traffic infraction? NOPE. Did the driver's insurance cover the damage? NOPE. Because uninsured motorist coverage is just that, for uninsured MOTORISTS. Did the driver have to cover the costs of the damage out of his pocket? YUP. Did the cyclist have any legal responsibility for his infraction AT ALL? NOPE.
Now if this were car on car than the person at fault would be liable.
So I ask again, why do cyclists get the same privileges as motorists without any of the liability or responsibility?
Delfuego
08-04-2011, 11:15
Damn pedestrians, skateboarders and rollerbladers are getting way with it too... [Luck]
UberTong
08-04-2011, 11:19
Hollahas makes a good point and all you can do is reply with your sarcasm. I've never seen a roller blader, skateboarder or pedestrian on my way to work. You are the biker that is speaking for all other cyclists right now, and right now I wish you had all that diesel smoke in your face. Cheers buddy :) [Beer]
hollohas
08-04-2011, 11:25
Damn pedestrians, skateboarders and rollerbladers are getting way with it too... [Luck]
They don't get the same privilege to use the roads in the same way motor vehicles do, so you haven't answered my question. Cyclists get the same rights to use the roads as cars but don't have the same requirements to do so.
n8tive97
08-04-2011, 11:35
Why is it that cyclist dress like they are riding in the Tour De France? I don't get all decked out in camo and paint my face when I go to the range? Just curios?
Sure you did bro... I think I read that same study...
WTF? What's with the sarcasm? Is that an attack on my validity or ability to read? I guess this is a prime example of put a man in a room and he'll behave, put him on the internet and he thinks he's as tough as Mike Tyson. I don't appreciate the personal attack there- I was just stating what happens when you mix slow moving vehicles and traffic, but if you want to resort to that I can be man enough to not dignify your sarcasm with an illogical and attacking remark.
Let's leave traffic enforcement to the traffic cops - perhaps if they (the police) could be persuaded to be more concerned about public safety than ticket revenue, a few more citations could be handed out to errant cyclists. Your 'bigger boat' analogy, if applied by the 'bigger boat' against a cyclist would result in vehicular manslaughter charges against the driver. In a crowded traffic situation, there would be no shortage of witnesses.
I was not referring to vehicular manslaughter, I was stating that in an accident situation (as in no malicious intent on either party's side) the car/truck/van/bus/etc. would win and that those on bicycles should be aware of that fact and perform their activity accordingly. I'm sure you realize this and was just playing Devil's advocate and knew I was talking about in an accident situation, otherwise you should probably go and talk to someone, preferably licensed in psychology.
If we had medicare for all, there would be no need for your insurance to cover the biker. If we tallied up all the forms of insurance we paid to for profit companies to cover medical, would do all that at half the cost of medicare for all.
Why is it that cyclist dress like they are riding in the Tour De France? I don't get all decked out in camo and paint my face when I go to the range? Just curios?
Because its functional and many of those people are actually on teams or sponsored to begin with. Colorado is home to some of the top rated cyclists in the world. They bring in A LOT of money into our local economy.
hollohas
08-04-2011, 11:53
If we had medicare for all, there would be no need for your insurance to cover the biker. If we tallied up all the forms of insurance we paid to for profit companies to cover medical, would do all that at half the cost of medicare for all.
OMG, at it again nynco.
Because its functional and many of those people are actually on teams or sponsored to begin with. Colorado is home to some of the top rated cyclists in the world. They bring in A LOT of money into our local economy.
Really? I know SOME are on teams but I highly doubt it's more than just a couple percent of the total cyclists on the roads wearing the gear that are on teams.
EDIT: the underlined part is the only real answer.
n8tive97
08-04-2011, 11:53
Because its functional and many of those people are actually on teams or sponsored to begin with. Colorado is home to some of the top rated cyclists in the world. They bring in A LOT of money into our local economy.
Makes sense I guess.....
hollohas
08-04-2011, 13:21
Originally Posted by Delfuego
Damn pedestrians, skateboarders and rollerbladers are getting way with it too...
They don't get the same privilege to use the roads in the same way motor vehicles do, so you haven't answered my question. Cyclists get the same rights to use the roads as cars but don't have the same requirements to do so.
Delfuego? I'm curious...
UberTong
08-04-2011, 14:37
Delfuego? I'm curious...
Apparently Delfuego only talks shit and makes sarcastic responses.
hollohas
08-04-2011, 14:42
Apparently Delfuego only talks shit and makes sarcastic responses.
Clearly, since he is posting in other threads I know he didn't go back to work or something...
Ronin13:
"I'm sure you realize this and was..." (are) "...just playing Devil's advocate and knew I was talking about in an accident situation, otherwise you should probably go and talk to someone, preferably licensed in psychology."
Nice to know that if I think otherwise, I'm a nutter...
nynco:
"Because its..." (it's) "...functional and many of those people are actually on teams or sponsored to begin with." (I know that many speak this way, but must WRITTEN sentences be ended with a preposition?) "Colorado is home to some of the top rated cyclists in the world. They bring in A LOT of money into..." (department of redundancy department) "...our local economy."
Actually some of the clothing is functional, but, if you don't ride for the team (and most do not), you should not wear its 'colors'. Also, lycra and belly fat make a really hideous 'fashion' statement; please keep Colorado beautiful - forgo the tight stuff if you fall into that majority category...
hollohas
08-04-2011, 15:14
Milt, you remind me of another CO-AR15.com user who used to be our grammar police...
hollohas:
"Milt, you remind me of another CO-AR15.com user who used to be our grammar police.."
Since this thread is clearly about assholes, I figured I'd join the crowd. I can be just as much of an asshole as the rest of this crew and serving (however briefly) as the grammar policeman would be a good start...
hollohas
08-04-2011, 15:34
hollohas:
"Milt, you remind me of another CO-AR15.com user who used to be our grammar police.."
Since this thread is clearly about assholes, I figured I'd join the crowd. I can be just as much of an asshole as the rest of this crew and serving (however briefly) as the grammar policeman would be a good start...
Oh, I didn't mean it in a bad way. Corrections are welcome and funny. Some others will know of whom I was speaking when I said you reminded me of someone...
Jumpstart
08-04-2011, 15:40
As a cyclist, diesels piss me off. As someone who enjoys a prank, I laughed at the video,
I type for point message not grammar perfection.... saves time[Beer]
hollohas:
No offense taken - if I cannot poke fun at myself, I have no license to do it to anyone else.
On a more serious note, those of us who hope to win the war of ideas (for Liberty and against collectivism) should strive for greater precision in our communications, especially when those are written.
UberTong
08-04-2011, 15:58
Nynco, everytime I look at your profile pic I think of you as Dr. Octopus or whatever his name was from SpiderMan. I think that gun is gonna morph and have arms come out of it if I stare long enough. Just saying, that's all...had to share. [Beer]
UberTong
08-04-2011, 15:58
hollohas:
No offense taken - if I cannot poke fun at myself, I have no license to do it to anyone else.
On a more serious note, those of us who hope to win the war of ideas (for Liberty and against collectivism) should strive for greater precision in our communications, especially when those are written.
Well said Milt. [Beer]
Milt, while I appreciate the sentiment, I was speaking in the past-tense... so I was correct. As for nynco, yes he makes a lot of errors in grammar and syntax, but I see why, he is trying to shoot a response quickly. I see validity in that, but I'd rather the message come across late and in good quality than quick and shoddy.
blackford76
08-04-2011, 17:07
I pay for those services, period. Because the goods that I pay for were delivered by a truck does not give a truck driver the right to threaten my life because I'm on a bike.
Straighten out your thinking.
Uh...what?
If you read all the posts you will see that my comments never threatened anyone on a bike.
The thread took a sharp left, and I found myself talking about the trucking industry, not exactly sure how it happened, then we were talking about taxes, again a bit of a mystery.
As for my comment about lowering or dropping the fuel taxes for semi's, my reasoning is that everything is moved by truck, if they get a small break that we should all benefit too.
I watched the video, and all the riders I saw were as far right as possible, and not impeding the fucktard in the dodge at all, so in this specific instance, the guy in the truck was an asshole.
I used to have to drive through Chatfield State Park to get to work everyday. Nearly every day on my way home I would have problems with riders. The part that made me most angry was that there is a nice, smooth paved bike path running parallel to the road, not 6 feet away. If you haven't driven through the park, well, the roads aren't too good. So why the hell would they choose to be in the middle of the road holding everyone up? I had to buy a park sticker to use the road, the cyclists don't. So, yes, there are SOME cyclists I'd love to see get smoked out. Does that make it right, not really.
saw a nice ass riding on Pleasant Park road today, really hated to have to pass her...
Ronin13:
In that case, it should then have been "were" - the subject was "you", therefor "was" is incorrect. It is also considered good form to maintain temporal consistency, maintaining either present or past tense (not both) in one phrase.
I agree with you that, yes, more time should indeed be taken to insure properly expressing one's thoughts. There is a preview function on this site to help visualize one's posts and one can always cut and paste from one's computer's word processing program after utilizing the spelling and usage checks.
one can always cut and paste from one's computer's word processing program after utilizing the spelling
Protip: If your browser doesn't spell check for you, you need to upgrade to either Chrome or Firefox before your computer gets owned.
H.
Hoosier,
I am already running Firefox, thanks anyway. I find the grammar and spell check functions in Word to be a bit more useable (though still often wrong, especially for technical writing, a bit of which I do for my clients).
mcantar18c
08-05-2011, 01:44
Protip: If your browser doesn't spell check for you, you need to upgrade to either Chrome or Firefox before your computer gets owned.
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My browser (Safari, whatever the newest version is) autocorrects things for me and holy crap does it piss me off sometimes.... like when I type "mags" and it autocorrects it to "magus."
low drag
08-05-2011, 05:48
Why is it that cyclist dress like they are riding in the Tour De France? I don't get all decked out in camo and paint my face when I go to the range? Just curios?
It does seem like spandex is being imposed upon the world...... I wear that stuff because like others said, it is functional. And if you take a fall the fabric will slide on the pavement for a bit rather than your skin. Saves a little road rash if you take a dump.
low drag
08-05-2011, 05:59
Uh...what?
If you read all the posts you will see that my comments never threatened anyone on a bike.
The thread took a sharp left, and I found myself talking about the trucking industry, not exactly sure how it happened, then we were talking about taxes, again a bit of a mystery.
As for my comment about lowering or dropping the fuel taxes for semi's, my reasoning is that everything is moved by truck, if they get a small break that we should all benefit too.
I watched the video, and all the riders I saw were as far right as possible, and not impeding the fucktard in the dodge at all, so in this specific instance, the guy in the truck was an asshole.
I used to have to drive through Chatfield State Park to get to work everyday. Nearly every day on my way home I would have problems with riders. The part that made me most angry was that there is a nice, smooth paved bike path running parallel to the road, not 6 feet away. If you haven't driven through the park, well, the roads aren't too good. So why the hell would they choose to be in the middle of the road holding everyone up? I had to buy a park sticker to use the road, the cyclists don't. So, yes, there are SOME cyclists I'd love to see get smoked out. Does that make it right, not really.
Yup, thread took a few detours. If you were not implying what I though sorry. If you have cyclist blocking the road hit the horn when you see them. If they bitch stop and have a chat with them. If I get a chance I say something to people riding 3-4 wide because it pisses people off and they then take it out on me. I will go 2 wide when passing or helping someone with technique etc. If I'm in your way/don't notice you coming give a toot to the horn, I'll get my ass out of the way.
I stay off the path due to folks walking dogs etc.
Here's what I put in one of my previous posts:
In a previous post I stated how I’ve been swerved at by vehicles, they play “how close can I get my mirror to his head” etc. No sense in reposting it all here.
Bottom line, I pay taxes just like everyone else. I also pay for the goods and services that pay a truck driver’s salary. Get over it. I'm going to use the road. Where you need to get worked up is when I don't follow the rules/law.
How do I feel threatened? Simple a one ton plus vehicle buzzing me at who knows how fast. It’s aggressive, period. Try that on a cop car with a cement truck, semi etc and continue driving. See how long it takes for them to use deadly force to make you stop.
Again, I’ve considered carrying my alloy J frame after reading all this I and giving it more serious thought.
So to the folks that think it's OK to buzz/swerve at a cyclist, hey you can do what you want. And I'll do what I think is right.
You can keep your newfangled Kenworths...
I'll take a longnose Pete over one of them anyday.
Pete's are pretty but KW's get shit done, now can it and hand me that wrench!
http://image.dieselpowermag.com/f/diesel-trucks/mid-florida-tech-diesel-technology-program/31725211/wheelie.jpg
Graves, that doesn't count! That's from a James Bond film! But there is ample reason why they chose KW... What is your Ken Worth by the way? [LOL]
Low drag- I understand that some drivers are assholes to cyclists... the point I'm advocating is that two wrongs don't make a right. If a cyclist decides to hog the road and be a douche because they were wronged by a couple asshole drivers, they are a dick and I feel no sympathy when they are buzzed, honked at, or get yelled at. I find myself constantly yelling out the window to bikers "Share the road goes both ways!" Sure I get the finger from time to time, but I just ignore and rest easy in the fact that I let them know that they're not the only ones who use the road.
Funny thing, I asked a couple road bikers this morning at the bike shop I picked up some things at today, how they ride in the streets. One stays to the right as far as possible, one rides in the middle of the road (even through town). I asked the guy who rides in the middle of traffic why he does it and he said he was tired of the dumb shits who "try to scare him" so now he just rides in the middle. He says that is the main reason why most of the guys he rides with do it also. I thought that was interesting, the dipshits that do the stupid things have caused the whole "taking up the whole lane" delima, at least in this instance.
As far as all of this goes, just because you don't like what someone is doing (especially if it isn't hurting anyone), doesn't give you the right to be a dipshit and pull a juvenile move to piss them off. I'm sure you also do things that piss people off and would be pretty angry if some asshole randomly came up to you and did something just to piss you off because of it.
Funny thing, I asked a couple road bikers this morning at the bike shop I picked up some things at today, how they ride in the streets. One stays to the right as far as possible, on rides in the middle of the road (even through town). I asked the guy who rides in the middle of traffic why he does it and he said he was tired of the dumb shits who "try to scare him" so now he just rides in the middle. He says that is the main reason why most of the guys he rides with do it also. I thought that was interesting, the dipshits that do the stupid things have caused the whole "taking up the whole lane" delima, at least in this instance.
As far as all of this goes, just because you don't like what someone is doing (especially if it isn't hurting anyone), doesn't give you the right to be a dipshit and pull a juvenile move to piss them off. I'm sure you also do things that piss people off and would be pretty angry if some asshole randomly came up to you and did something just to piss you off because of it.
Hence why I am usually pretty courteous to cyclists... guess it goes back to what my parents taught me growing up- the golden rule. Somehow I don't think a lot of people caught on to that sentiment.
low drag
08-07-2011, 21:59
Graves, that doesn't count! That's from a James Bond film! But there is ample reason why they chose KW... What is your Ken Worth by the way? [LOL]
Low drag- I understand that some drivers are assholes to cyclists... the point I'm advocating is that two wrongs don't make a right. If a cyclist decides to hog the road and be a douche because they were wronged by a couple asshole drivers, they are a dick and I feel no sympathy when they are buzzed, honked at, or get yelled at. I find myself constantly yelling out the window to bikers "Share the road goes both ways!" Sure I get the finger from time to time, but I just ignore and rest easy in the fact that I let them know that they're not the only ones who use the road.
Ditto, just because some other cyclist is an asshat does not give anyone the right to intimidate/threaten me with a 2 to 4 thousand lb vehicle at 50 mph, or push me off the road, or throw things at me as they pass, or drive past me and take a hard right with no signal light and on and on and on.
As we've both said, it all cuts both ways. Just like CCW permits.
My browser (Safari, whatever the newest version is) autocorrects things for me and holy crap does it piss me off sometimes.... like when I type "mags" and it autocorrects it to "magus."
Wow autocorrect, that's lame. I use Safari for some stuff and haven't noticed this, but I'm mostly using it to check that pages render OK in it.
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Lex_Luthor
08-08-2011, 09:35
On Friday afternoon I went for a run on my lunch break. At the end of my 2 mile run, right when I was almost back to work, some F'n idiot in a white diesel truck floored it past me and did the EXACT same thing. I was running on the sidewalk, not on a bicycle, not interrupting his life in any way. I just stopped and ran in place while the air cleared, because there was NO way in hell I was going to run through that cloud. I wish he would have gotten out of his truck. F'n asshole.
trlcavscout
08-08-2011, 11:45
I cant stand bicyclists in the mountains or nasty diesels! I cant stand the smell of them or the sound especially the dodges they sound like shit. I do like seeing them at the gas station and emission station paying more [Beer] I grew up in a family of truck drivers and can appreciate diesels for that reason but just to drive around town makes no sense.
I think deisels are ok if it is a TDI (volkswagon, audi ect) or something that is tuned and doesn't blow all of that black shit. Most think it is cool that their truck blows black exaust, however all they are doing is simply showing off how ineffecient their trucks are.
funkymonkey1111
08-08-2011, 13:50
what are the chances the idiot driving that truck had a set of truck nuts on it?
mcantar18c
08-08-2011, 14:16
I cant stand bicyclists in the mountains or nasty diesels! I cant stand the smell of them or the sound especially the dodges they sound like shit. I do like seeing them at the gas station and emission station paying more [Beer] I grew up in a family of truck drivers and can appreciate diesels for that reason but just to drive around town makes no sense.
Do you pee sitting down?
blackford76
08-08-2011, 15:38
what are the chances the idiot driving that truck had a set of truck nuts on it?
Better than average, but it was a Dodge, so they would be small.
low drag
08-19-2011, 05:49
Well I did Mt Evans last Sunday and rode in CO Springs Saturday. No need to show anyone the J frame. So I guess it was a good couple of days.
I'm off to Boulder, Hygene, Loveland/Carter Lake tomorrow. Lets see if the J frame needs to come out tomorrow.......
Better than average, but it was a Dodge, so they would be small.
Yep, chances of a Dodge guy having to make up for his short comings would be very small. Now a ford guy on the other hand...
Bailey Guns
08-19-2011, 08:24
OK...finally read the entire thread.
I've owned a couple of Power Strokes. I never figured out the attraction of having a truck that smoked like that. I guess I don't get it.
At any rate, there's some funny stuff in this thread. And, as usual, some stupid stuff. Guess that's why it kept me going for 8 pages. I need a life.
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