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The following are 19 facts about the deindustrialization of America that will blow your mind....
#1 The United States has lost approximately 42,400 factories since 2001.
#2 Dell Inc., one of America’s largest manufacturers of computers, has announced plans to dramatically expand its operations in China with an investment of over $100 billion over the next decade.
#3 Dell has announced that it will be closing its last large U.S. manufacturing facility in Winston-Salem, North Carolina in November. Approximately 900 jobs will be lost.
#4 In 2008, 1.2 billion cellphones were sold worldwide. So how many of them were manufactured inside the United States? Zero.
#5 According to a new study conducted by the Economic Policy Institute, if the U.S. trade deficit with China continues to increase at its current rate, the U.S. economy will lose over half a million jobs this year alone.
#6 As of the end of July, the U.S. trade deficit with China had risen 18 percent compared to the same time period a year ago.
#7 The United States has lost a total of about 5.5 million manufacturing jobs since October 2000.
#8 According to Tax Notes, between 1999 and 2008 employment at the foreign affiliates of U.S. parent companies increased an astounding 30 percent to 10.1 million. During that exact same time period, U.S. employment at American multinational corporations declined 8 percent to 21.1 million.
#9 In 1959, manufacturing represented 28 percent of U.S. economic output. In 2008, it represented 11.5 percent.
#10 Ford Motor Company recently announced the closure of a factory that produces the Ford Ranger in St. Paul, Minnesota. Approximately 750 good paying middle class jobs are going to be lost because making Ford Rangers in Minnesota does not fit in with Ford's new "global" manufacturing strategy.
#11 As of the end of 2009, less than 12 million Americans worked in manufacturing. The last time less than 12 million Americans were employed in manufacturing was in 1941.
#12 In the United States today, consumption accounts for 70 percent of GDP. Of this 70 percent, over half is spent on services.
#13 The United States has lost a whopping 32 percent of its manufacturing jobs since the year 2000.
#14 In 2001, the United States ranked fourth in the world in per capita broadband Internet use. Today it ranks 15th.
#15 Manufacturing employment in the U.S. computer industry is actually lower in 2010 than it was in 1975.
#16 Printed circuit boards are used in tens of thousands of different products. Asia now produces 84 percent of them worldwide.
#17 The United States spends approximately $3.90 on Chinese goods for every $1 that the Chinese spend on goods from the United States.
#18 One prominent economist is projecting that the Chinese economy will be three times larger than the U.S. economy by the year 2040.
#19 The U.S. Census Bureau says that 43.6 million Americans are now living in poverty and according to them that is the highest number of poor Americans in the 51 years that records have been kept.
Makes me sad.
jplove71
08-05-2011, 17:31
The following are 19 facts about the deindustrialization of America that will blow your mind....Source?
Use google....
http://www.dailymarkets.com/stock/2010/09/25/19-facts-about-the-deindustrialization-of-america-that-will-blow-your-mind/
http://www.businessinsider.com/deindustrialization-factory-closing-2010-9
http://www.conservativenc.com/index.php/national/3495
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/19-facts-about-the-deindustrialization-of-america-that-will-blow-your-mind
My favorite link to this info is here. Read what your other AR brethren are saying.
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?p=768256
tmleadr03
08-05-2011, 18:04
Of course I am proud to be an American. Best country in the world. Crazy to think otherwise. Manufacturing jobs moving elsewhere? Ok. Why should I be less proud of my country because of that?
I really like #19. Only in America does living in poverty lead to obesity and iPhones.
DELL use to manufacturer in US when PC/Laptop market was profitable.
Sadly, tons of lower end PC/Laptop companies came into the US market.
If DELL still manufactuer their PC/Laptop, they will probably lose tons of $$ or even be in financial trouble.
I remember Compaq, HP, DELL laptop use to cost >$1000 during 98-04.
Now, I can buy a decent laptop for $450.
Cellphone R&D companies and designers are still in US.
Qualcomm (R&D of CDMA) is a company that Samsung, LG nor other CDMA based smart phone companies cannot compete. Biggest loser from smart phone era is Nokia (Finn).
jplove71
08-05-2011, 19:00
Use google....I think that if someone is going to list statistics that they should include a link (or links) to a source. Just my $0.02.
I think that if someone is going to list statistics that they should include a link (or links) to a source. Just my $0.02.
I think if somebody's that concerned about another's credibility, they should do their own research. Just my $0.02. [Tooth]
tmleadr03
08-05-2011, 19:28
I think if somebody's that concerned about another's credibility, they should do their own research. Just my $0.02. [Tooth]
To make your own case you should provide your own evidence. To make my case I should provide my own evidence.
To make your own case you should provide your own evidence. To make my case I should provide my own evidence.
One can always take the "disprove it" approach. [Muaha]
Source:http://www.fallacyfiles.org/ignorant.html
tmleadr03
08-05-2011, 19:35
One can always take the "disprove it" approach. [Muaha]
That would be the "Appeal to ignorance" fallacy.
ETA: Source http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/fallacies.html
America[n]... Best country in the world.
Sadly, by many metrics, we no longer are.
GDP Per Capita #11
Infant Mortality Rate #46
Unemployment #106
Distribution of income #96 (disparity between rich/poor)
Education Expenditure by GDP #43On the plus side, we're #38 when it comes to debt as a percentage of GDP. That's good, there are 37 other countries with a higher debt load than us. Puts the debt ceiling debate into a little more focus.
I don't believe the countries that score higher do so because they've given up liberties, I think they do it by working harder. Having less of a sense of entitlement, having real transparency and accountability by those in power has given them leadership that actually works for the collective benefit.
(All stats from CIA World Factobook https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html)
H.
tmleadr03
08-05-2011, 20:43
Sadly, by many metrics, we no longer are.
GDP Per Capita #11
Infant Mortality Rate #46
Unemployment #106
Distribution of income #96 (disparity between rich/poor)
Education Expenditure by GDP #43On the plus side, we're #38 when it comes to debt as a percentage of GDP. That's good, there are 37 other countries with a higher debt load than us. Puts the debt ceiling debate into a little more focus.
I don't believe the countries that score higher do so because they've given up liberties, I think they do it by working harder. Having less of a sense of entitlement, having real transparency and accountability by those in power has given them leadership that actually works for the collective benefit.
(All stats from CIA World Factobook https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html)
H.
So where would you say is better to live then here?
So what you are saying is you don't care if America becomes a 3rd world nation........ as long as you have your guns you are ok?
[Bang]
mcantar18c
08-05-2011, 22:21
Proud to be American? Always have been, always will be.
Proud of where the American gov't is headed? Now that's a different story.
Screw the metrics!
How many of the 200 plus countries on this planet have a Bill of Rights? How many can you legally own as many guns/ammo as you want without a shitload of paperwork?(ignore those coss dunt coastal states with liberal gun laws)
Try carrying a pocketknife in England...go to jail. Many freedoms in China or Japan or Russia? Heck no. Let's try to be like Denmark- 70% taxes, no family morals, and 2 years paid vacation for unwed moms. That would go over real well with illegal anchor babies.
Just like Sweden, Denmark is a Nordic welfare state with most of its services free to the citizens. Expect to pay 72% of your money to the government on the highest income tax bracket. According to Wikipedia Denmark has the worlds highest taxes! When buying a car in Denmark one has to pay 25% VAT to the import price of the vehicle and then a 180% registration tax on top. That means when a car sells for $20 000, you have to pay an additional $45 000 as taxes for the government (total of $65 000). That’s why people in Denmark ride bikes or use one of the best public transport systems in the world. Denmark also has 2 autonomous provinces – the Faroe Islands and Greenland. The latter is over 50 times larger than Denmark but has about 100 times less people.
Yet the people who live in Denmark have a higher "happiness" rating than America.... meaning, they said in surveys that they are happy with their life more days than Americans did. You would think they are miserable with insane taxes, but research bears out that once people have enough money to live comfortably, it becomes less of a psychological issue what their tax rate is.
http://www.financialjesus.com/how-to-get-rich/top-10-happiest-countries/
There are other countries where people can own guns. Czech Republic, for example, is pretty good -- they are a shall issue CCW country in the EU. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_Czech_Republic
New Zealand has a few stupid laws, like thumbhole stocks and high taxes, but suppressors are not restricted.
I don't think any country is perfect, and I think the US is a great country. I just don't go around believe that it is, always has been, and always will be the greatest country period. I'm certain you can add qualifiers there that will work. We still have the highest GDP of any single country... although the Eurozone has us beat, and China will surpass us in like 12 years.
I know it's sacrosanct to not believe without thought that the US is number one at every single thing -- but I don't screw metrics, I make my decisions by them.
Our education system is coming up on it's second or third generation of failing students. Obviously, there are still well-off communities and district schools that are churning out kids who can actually make it in college. But far too many inner-city schools have fail-boat staff, funding, and no involvement from parents who can't even feed their kids. Teachers either get tenure and stop caring, or come in young and idealistic and are ground down by the realities of the situation. All those kids watching Cribs and Gangsta Rap who want to "get theirs" no matter what are going to be driving crime rates for 15 years down the road.
I think that's the single biggest collective failure of the past generation. Kids in other countries are kicking our asses in science and technology, and we'll be dethroned as the big kid on the block for technology... and that will be a harsh blow to our economy too.
H.
I stopped at "happiness rating" . . .
mcantar18c
08-06-2011, 02:28
Yet the people who live in Denmark have a higher "happiness" rating than America.
The less responsibilities one has, the happier one is. When the gov't provides most things for you, you don't need to provide as much for yourself. Less personal responsibility = more careless happiness. Think parents and children.
You're right, life would be so much easier if I lived in my mom's basement where she would buy all the groceries and cook my meals for me and wipe my ass for me.
dtbighit
08-06-2011, 07:19
God!i love a cyber argument!!!!!
Love my country, hate my government. Or at least most of the people currently in in, and what it's become.
Kids in other countries are kicking our asses in science and technology, and we'll be dethroned as the big kid on the block for technology... and that will be a harsh blow to our economy too.
H.
Education receives derogatory remarks on just about every gun forum I've ever read. Everyone expects little Johnny to be a rocket scientist or CEO of a major company when he grows up and yet little Johnny's teachers are deemed too expensive if they earn $35K/year. When education at the university level is discussed, the only mention is the omnipresent refrain about "libtard anti-gun professors". It's little wonder our students are a good ways down the list when it comes to test scores in science/math. (No, I'm not a teacher, I'm a dropout but even I can see the proverbial writing on the wall)
The next time anyone runs a software program on their computer that lists the creators of that software, try to pronounce even a quarter of the names on that list: they aren't Americans, which means Americans aren't getting paid to write the code, because little Johnny's parents didn't care if little Johnny stayed after school for football rather than AP math.
tmleadr03
08-06-2011, 09:49
Education receives derogatory remarks on just about every gun forum I've ever read. Everyone expects little Johnny to be a rocket scientist or CEO of a major company when he grows up and yet little Johnny's teachers are deemed too expensive if they earn $35K/year. When education at the university level is discussed, the only mention is the omnipresent refrain about "libtard anti-gun professors". It's little wonder our students are a good ways down the list when it comes to test scores in science/math. (No, I'm not a teacher, I'm a dropout but even I can see the proverbial writing on the wall)
The next time anyone runs a software program on their computer that lists the creators of that software, try to pronounce even a quarter of the names on that list: they aren't Americans, which means Americans aren't getting paid to write the code, because little Johnny's parents didn't care if little Johnny stayed after school for football rather than AP math.
If little Johnny's teachers can not perform well enough to get most of their class to be able to graduate high school and actually be able to read and write then yes they are overpaid. Just about every high school student I have talked to can not make change in their head. Simple math with a medium that we use every day. So yes, they are over paid.
As to the colleges and universities. Yes it is a bastion of liberal thought with opposing opinions shot down on a regular basis by the professors. What we have in this country is sadly the thought that you have to go to college to make anything of yourself. I really like Mike Rowes comments to Congress on this topic. http://www.mikeroweworks.com/videos/?vid=332 But with the subsidies from the federal government for college of course we are beggaring our children for something they may or may not be suited for. The point is that if we cut subsidies to education the cost would not only go down but the quality of education would go up. If teachers were rewarded for their performance then the quality of education would go up.
The teachers union is doing more harm to our kids the the war on drugs.
Federal subsidies to college are doing more harm to our kids then binge drinking.
As to the colleges and universities. Yes it is a bastion of liberal thought with opposing opinions shot down on a regular basis by the professors.
Well, the only university professors I've known taught the within the science & medical fields and I'm at a loss as to how you can put a conservative or liberal spin on chemistry/physics/anatomy/calculus/Etc.
I'm not suggesting that college is required, the Amish pretty much call school quits at what, sixth grade? I merely find it interesting how education is viewed in this country vs. how it's approached in other nations. The results therein seem to be evident when discussing how American students stack up against those from other countries when it comes to the fields that fill the tech/engineering/science fields.
tmleadr03
08-06-2011, 10:37
Well, the only university professors I've known taught the within the science & medical fields and I'm at a loss as to how you can put a conservative or liberal spin on chemistry/physics/anatomy/calculus/Etc.
I'm not suggesting that college is required, the Amish pretty much call school quits at what, sixth grade? I merely find it interesting how education is viewed in this country vs. how it's approached in other nations. The results therein seem to be evident when discussing how American students stack up against those from other countries when it comes to the fields that fill the tech/engineering/science fields.
Well in that case lets focus on the teachers unions. That would be the main cause of our kids lack of knowledge or ability to use their minds.
I think many people just hate unions because they are ideologues.
I certainly don't like the figures, it sucks to lose jobs here in America. That being said, my 12 years in the military afforded me the opportunity to visit some real shitholes around the world where it sucks worse to be there than it does in the USA. I think we still have it pretty damn good in comparison to A LOT of other places. Sure, as a father of 2 wonderful sons, I am frightened for their future. Although it is simply because I am not able to predict it. Fear of the unknown is not an uncommon thing. I will do the best of my ability to make sure my sons are wiser than me and guide them towards making the best decisions possible, but when it's all said & done, the decision ultimately lies on them.
If you want better "job security", then get a career in life, death or law enforcement. People will be born, people inevitably die, and there will ALWAYS be crime.
When we offshore so many middle class jobs, It becomes a situation where there is no job security anywhere. You want to know why there are always jobs for nurses? Because the working conditions for many are horrible. The hospitals short staff them and then burn them out or fire them after one year to hire someone cheaper. Since there is a steady supply of people retraining because they lost their other job to free trade...... the system works. One big churning factory all so the CEOs at the health insurance industry can make a billion a year. I have seen airline pilots who were 50 retraining to become nurses. Not because they wanted too.... but because that was the only job out there that they felt was safe. ha ha ha
I am sorry, but saying at least we are not a 3rd world crap hole is no way to look at this nation. I would rather strive to a higher standard.
Since when did it ever become a bad thing to think of America, Americans and our jobs over the ideology of laissez faire free trade? Since when did people become party over country hacks? I think its wrong that wallstreet benefits by gutting mainstreet.
The less responsibilities one has, the happier one is. When the gov't provides most things for you, you don't need to provide as much for yourself. Less personal responsibility = more careless happiness. Think parents and children.
You're right, life would be so much easier if I lived in my mom's basement where she would buy all the groceries and cook my meals for me and wipe my ass for me.
The Danish government doesn't lead peoples lives for them. They still get up and go to work, come home and eat dinner with their families and I'm sure they don't have any more substantial government involvement in their day to day lives then we do.
However you may be correct, perhaps living in a country where the average person isn't poor, and thus the crime rates are low -- where you don't have to worry that moving from your old job to a new freelance job means you'll be out of healthcare, etc, does make for a happier life.
Maybe the amount of money in your bank account isn't the meaning to happiness that Ayn Rand seemed to insist, perhaps it isn't the only metric to measure how happy someone is.
H.
Ironically even under Ayn Rands metric, almost all are worse off since the 80s.
I agree Hoosier.... one thing I noticed in Europe. Next to no crime. Why? Well in my opinion it was because society functioned not just for profit but for the general good too.
Proud to be America ALWAYS AND WITHOUT QUESTION
Fixed to suit my sentiments and feelings. If it breaks it's part of my obligation to fix it in any way I possibly can.
If it breaks it's part of my obligation to fix it in any way I possibly can.
Bingo[Beer]
DD977GM2
08-06-2011, 16:10
How can you relate a topic of deindustrialization with being proud to be an American?
Im proud of being an American and I really have no control over what the CEOs of major companies do with their company by moving operations etc overseas.
I do my Patriotic duty to try and buy as much as I can that is Made In USA. I will not however buy any Ford, Chevrolet or Dodge made vehicles.
You are truely just pissing your money away if you do.
mcantar18c
08-06-2011, 16:14
How can you relate a topic of deindustrialization with being proud to be an American?
Im proud of being an American and I really have no control over what the CEOs of major companies do with their company by moving operations etc overseas.
I do my Patriotic duty to try and buy as much as I can that is Made In USA. I will not however buy any Ford, Chevrolet or Dodge made vehicles.
You are truely just pissing your money away if you do.
As a guy who only drives/buys Ford and Jeep... please elaborate on that. I'm interested to hear your position on this.
jhood001
08-06-2011, 16:14
You're right, life would be so much easier if I lived in my mom's basement where she would buy all the groceries and cook my meals for me and wipe my ass for me.
Well, shit. And here I thought I had you pegged.
mcantar18c
08-06-2011, 16:15
Well, shit. And here I thought I had you pegged.
Had me pegged as?
How can you relate a topic of deindustrialization with being proud to be an American?
Because it is our trade policies that are encouraging the industrialization of America. I do not approve of what our gov is doing.
I do my Patriotic duty to try and buy as much as I can that is Made In USA. I will not however buy any Ford, Chevrolet or Dodge made vehicles.
My daily driver is a Subaru Legacy... everything but the motor and computer are made in the USA. It's final assembly is at a plant just a few miles away from Purdue, in north-central Indiana. This makes it far more "American Made" than a number of the smaller models by Ford and GM which are assembled in Mexico.
And it's a well made car, more than ten years old and still very responsive handling, no major problems, works great in the snow and gets decent mpg for a AWD vehicle. So it's not that Americans can't build cars, it's just that for many years we got by selling crappy cars. I think some of the new model "American" (Ford, GM) cars are not on par with the imports, in terms of quality and reliability and price. They just have to overcome 15 or 20 years having a poor reputation.
I like to buy American when I know I'm getting a quality product. If I want to buy garbage product for a one-time-use, I'm fine shopping at Wallyworld and buying that $9 Chinese item which serves a limited purpose. I just wish there were more high quality items to choose from.
H.
mcantar18c
08-06-2011, 16:39
MI think some of the new model "American" (Ford, GM) cars are not on par with the imports, in terms of quality and reliability and price.
I have to disagree with you there.
I have the privilege of driving a 2011 F450 King Ranch now and then... I must say its one of the nicest vehicles I've ever driven. For a truck, I have to say it does have a pretty ridiculous price tag, but all trucks do these days. Very comfortable, lots of little doodads like air-conditioned seats and a back up camera aimed at the hitch so you can back up to a trailer without a spotter. It handles more like a small SUV, which is impressive for a diesel crew cab long bed dually. Also, its assembled in Louisville, Kentucky, as are all Super Duties up through the F550. Only the F650 is MIM.
I have to disagree with you there.
I have the privilege of driving a 2011 F450 King Ranch now and then... I must say its one of the nicest vehicles I've ever driven. For a truck, I have to say it does have a pretty ridiculous price tag, but all trucks do these days. Very comfortable, lots of little doodads like air-conditioned seats and a back up camera aimed at the hitch so you can back up to a trailer without a spotter. It handles more like a small SUV, which is impressive for a diesel crew cab long bed dually. Also, its assembled in Louisville, Kentucky, as are all Super Duties up through the F550. Only the F650 is MIM.
Hah, I meant to write "are now on par" ... that W->T totally changes the meaning.
H.
Tor Larson
08-06-2011, 18:02
Ironically even under Ayn Rands metric, almost all are worse off since the 80s.
I agree Hoosier.... one thing I noticed in Europe. Next to no crime. Why? Well in my opinion it was because society functioned not just for profit but for the general good too.
General good? Are you for real? Why do you constantly post statements that are false? I have caught you twice in the past 2 weeks! England has a higher rate of crime than we do these days...fact! Check it out... They admit it! Ever heard of the Holocaust? Anti-semitism that still exists in Europe today? Mafia? Two world wars started by Europe? Ethnic cleansing? You speak of Europe in your posts like they have rays of sunshine shinning out of their asses...don't deny it. I have read all your posts and you just love it across the pond. Are you a socialist?
clublights
08-06-2011, 18:07
General good? Are you for real? England has a higher rate of crime than we do these days. Ever heard of the Holocaust? Anti-semitism that still exists in Europe today? Mafia? Two world wars started by Europe? Ethnic cleansing? You speak of Europe in your posts like they have rays of sunshine shinning out of their asses...don't deny it. I have read all your posts and you just love it across the pond. Are you a socialist?
with the expect ion of labeling a socialist ( which may or may not be true but I'm not gonna get into that)
Tor gets a big +1 to me
tmleadr03
08-06-2011, 18:21
with the expect ion of labeling a socialist ( which may or may not be true but I'm not gonna get into that)
Tor gets a big +1 to me
This is why he is on ignore for me. I have heard it mentioned that he just has opposing viewpoints, but it goes way beyond that. He comes in here and spouts off on things as "fact" when most of what he says is made up. And when he is called on it like now he will come up with some blog somewhere that will support his conclusions. I stopped ignoring him for a bit but now he is back on.
Now please top quoting him. I can control myself and not click on his posts to see them but if you quote him I end up reading what he wrote.
clublights
08-06-2011, 18:38
This is why he is on ignore for me. I have heard it mentioned that he just has opposing viewpoints, but it goes way beyond that. He comes in here and spouts off on things as "fact" when most of what he says is made up. And when he is called on it like now he will come up with some blog somewhere that will support his conclusions. I stopped ignoring him for a bit but now he is back on.
Now please top quoting him. I can control myself and not click on his posts to see them but if you quote him I end up reading what he wrote.
I'm assuming you mean nynco and not Tor ?
General good? Are you for real? Why do you constantly post statements that are false? I have caught you twice in the past 2 weeks! England has a higher rate of crime than we do these days...fact! Check it out... They admit it! Ever heard of the Holocaust? Anti-semitism that still exists in Europe today? Mafia? Two world wars started by Europe? Ethnic cleansing? You speak of Europe in your posts like they have rays of sunshine shinning out of their asses...don't deny it. I have read all your posts and you just love it across the pond. Are you a socialist?
Caught me in what lie. I was referring to Germany, Switzerland, Austria, all the Scandinavian countries. You chose England.... and then went back in history to dredge up the Holocaust like its today's news. Anyone who knows anything about European politics knows that England is the odd man out for damn near everything.
Am I a socialist.... you ask this like its treason. I don't like you implying that I don't love my country. If you want to know, I think some forms of socialism are good. I like our socialist military, police depts, fire dept, public health agencies, food inspections, FAA, public roads, parks and countless other things.
I believe in the concept "United We Stand Divided We Fall" more than social darwinism or every man for himself..
This is why he is on ignore for me. I have heard it mentioned that he just has opposing viewpoints, but it goes way beyond that. He comes in here and spouts off on things as "fact" when most of what he says is made up. And when he is called on it like now he will come up with some blog somewhere that will support his conclusions. I stopped ignoring him for a bit but now he is back on.
Now please top quoting him. I can control myself and not click on his posts to see them but if you quote him I end up reading what he wrote.
Hey Team leader can you hear me or read this........ quite whining like a girl. I don't run around crying about your horrible manners. You want to ignore me fine. But don't go around bashing me. I have been respectful of your differening views. You.....nah ya just can't do that can you.
tmleadr03
08-06-2011, 19:26
I'm assuming you mean nynco and not Tor ?
Yup.
Sharpienads
08-07-2011, 01:53
For the first time in my adult life I'm proud to be an American... oh wait, that's not me, that's our First (alleged) Lady.
mcantar18c
08-07-2011, 02:02
Hah, I meant to write "are now on par" ... that W->T totally changes the meaning.
H.
[ROFL1]
Yeah that does change things a bit.
Are you a socialist?
Aren't we all, in fact, socialists? I mean, assuming you're an American. Your income is taxed as a percentage of what you earn. That's socialism. In a non socialist country we would take the annual federal budget, divide it by the number adults in the country, and send everyone a bill for their share.
The 2011 federal budget expects 2.17 trillion in revenue (from Wikipedia), and individual income was about 49% in 2006 (from random webpage). Roughly 67% of the population is tax paying age (18-65ish, per Wikipedia), with the current population around 307million people.
So then, we should have 206m taxpayers, give or take and we need to generate:
2170000000000 * 0.49 = 1063300000000 or 1.06 trillion
1.06 trillion raised from 206m people = $5,161 a year.
Works for me. Lets send out a bill, and if you can't pay we liquidate your worthless assets and put you on a boat and drop you just outside the territorial waters of a random country.
H.
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