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yankeefan98121
08-06-2011, 18:27
OBAMA vs BUSH
(Just the Facts)
CREDIT RATING
Bush AAA+
Obama AA+ (per jplove71's link below)
GDP
Bush 1.7%
Obama 1.2%
MEDICARE
Obama CUT $416.5 Billion
Bush INCREASED $120 Billion
(Source: www.taxfoundation.org (http://www.taxfoundation.org/))
GAS PRICES
Bush - $1.65 a gallon (End of term)
Obama - $3.62 a gallon (Current)
(Source: http://gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_... (http://gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx%29)
UNEMPLOYMENT
Bush - 4.71% (Average)
Obama - 9.2% (Current)(Source: www.bls.gov (http://www.bls.gov/))
NATIONAL DEBT
Bush – Increased 4 trillion (8 Years)
Obama – Will increase 18 trillion (8 years, according to OBAMAS budget)
(Source: www.treasurydirect.gov (http://www.treasurydirect.gov/))
DEFICIT
Bush - $0.5 Trillion per year
Obama - $1,8 Trillion per year
(Source: www.federalbudget.com (http://www.federalbudget.com/))
JOBS
Bush – GAINED 3 million jobs over 8 years
Obama - LOST 3.24 million in 2 years
(Source: Wall Street Journal)
INFLATION:
Bush +0.1% (End of Term)
Obama +3.6% (Current)
(Source: usinflationcalculator.com (http://usinflationcalculator.com/))
WARS
Bush - 2 wars in Iraq and Afghanistan – Both with UN and Congressional Approval
Obama - 5 wars
Iraq, Afghanistan (Continued)
Yemen, Libya and Pakistan (No Congressional Approval)
HOPE and CHANGE
We HOPED for BETTER and got a CHANGE for WORSE
GO TEA PARTY !
jplove71
08-06-2011, 18:33
OBAMA vs BUSH
(Just the Facts)
CREDIT RATING
Bush AAA+
Obama AAA
That should be AA+ for Obama.
Source: http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/05/news/economy/downgrade_rumors/index.htm?hpt=hp_t2
I'm stealing that for a couple forums...
KevDen2005
08-06-2011, 19:25
It's been quite a while now, but I thought the UN did not support a war in Iraq in 2003. Feel free to correct me on that.
The war was because Saddam was ignoring warnings about him breaking UN regulations against Iraq.
Tweety Bird
08-06-2011, 19:58
Looks like it's all Dubya's fault to me.
[Beer]
so is it still Bush's fault?
Some of it, yes. An economy does not change overnight. It takes months, maybe even years for the full effect of bad policy to show up. Obama has been adding on his own bad policies that hurt the problem more, but it definitely started with Bush.
Bailey Guns
08-07-2011, 07:01
Some of it, yes. An economy does not change overnight. It takes months, maybe even years for the full effect of bad policy to show up. Obama has been adding on his own bad policies that hurt the problem more, but it definitely started with Bush.
I have to disagree. It started long before Bush. Neither side is blameless in this financial disaster.
Some of those stats are misleading. For instance taking the figures at the end of Bush's term would be considered unfair due to the recession at that time.You need to average it out over their time in office and go by that.
Don't get me wrong, Obongo is still a joke, but so was Bush.
Some of those stats are misleading. For instance taking the figures at the end of Bush's term would be considered unfair due to the recession at that time.You need to average it out over their time in office and go by that.
True, but perception is reality to many Americans. These kind of figures, while mostly anecdotal, are what so many folks see - so in that regard it is true.
Wait till Fitch and Moody downgrade the credit rating.....
Currently Nikkei, KSE, NZX, ASX down. European market to follow.
Tweety Bird
08-07-2011, 20:10
Many times, when we criticize the Big O, people on the left want to say that "our guy" (meaning Dubya) was just as bad. What they don't appreciate is that many of us on the right were as anxious for Bush to leave office as they were, though for entirely different reasons.
Bush spent money like a drunken sailor. Witness his last budget with a $500B deficit.
I don't know what to compare this current clown to. I want to say that he spends like a drunken Democrat, but that gives a bad name to the people who still think like the old-time Democrats. But in 2 short years, the deficit has tripled from the God-awful levels of Bush to $1.5T. I did the math once. If every man, woman and child in America was to pay for that deficit over the course of one year, it would be about $450 per month. And that's just the current deficit; it wouldn't pay any of the other bills, and it wouldn't pay a penny toward the debt.
I think we're screwed, especially if the Community Organizer of the United States (COOTUS) gets another term.
What I've taken to saying is that Bush being a crappy President doesn't mean Obama should be, too. The first half of that statement really screws up the lefties.
Obama had choices when he took office.
He could have chosen to depart from Bush policies - this would have been the best course of action.
He could have chosen to continue Bush policies on the same scale as Bush.
He could have chosen to continue Bush policies on a larger scale than Bush.
Obama chose in continue failed Bush policies at a much larger scale. We're watching the train wreck.
Singlestack
08-08-2011, 06:31
I remember talking to my very liberal wife's side of the family in 2006 about Bush. They all wanted to high-five me when I said I couldn't stand Bush. Once we got into "why" were the differences apparent: I was against him because of the out of control spending and support for amnesty. Remember "compassionate conservativism" and spending bill after spending bill signed into law, without vetoes? The in-laws opposition was 100% based on the Iraq war - they thought the spending and amnesty were no big deal.
Singlestack
n8tive97
08-08-2011, 07:18
I'm just happy for Jimmy Carter, he can die knowing he wasn't the worst President in history! Go Big O! Way to screw America!
I will take Bush all over again.
I hope we get a strong TEA party, pro American, pro Constitution, pro defense, pro capitalist candidate for 2012!
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