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I picked up a bottle of the hornandy one shot a while back because I heard pretty good things about it. I pulled apart my die and cleaned it and basically followed all the directions to the T. It worked fine for a few rounds and than became super hard to fully size the .223 cleaned the die again but this time it was hard right off the bat borderline ripping the press from my el cheapo table. Switched to the Lee sizing lube and it is smooth as normal? What am I missing?
On a side note finally got the turret press fully set up and ran it for the first time auto indexing it is kinda fickle. started with OAL issues again still trying to get them worked out. than found out if you do a full lever pull on the press with the rifle charging die you will crush the case[Rant2][Rant2]
One of those days where it is probably safer to not reload.
One Shot is marginal for 223 brass if you are not using a carbide size die.
Stick to normal lube if you dont want to spring for a carbide size die.
SA Friday
08-09-2011, 14:58
One Shot is marginal for 223 brass if you are not using a carbide size die.
Stick to normal lube if you dont want to spring for a carbide size die.
Serious truth in this. If you disregard it, you are going to eventually get a case stuck, probably ruin the die, and have to get a new one anyway. Get a new carbide die. It's worth it for 223. You still have to lube, but a ton less swearing involved.
Hoser or SA which carbide die would you suggest? this purchase would not be immediate but possible in the next couple months. The Dillion ones look fairly reasonable
Go with the Dillon Carbide. Without a doubt.
If you don't want to spring for the carbide die, go back to using your old lube. Hornady One Shot sucks. I tried using it in their dies with .223 and had stuck case after stuck case. Never again will I use Hornady dies or lube.
Still love their bullets though.
DSB OUTDOORS
08-09-2011, 19:21
One shot is great for straight walled brass!! But when it comes to tappered brass .223, .308. etc. I use RCBS case lube. Never had a problem! As for Dies, Hoser is right, but they can be $$$ for Dillon. But middle of the road I use again RCBS little more expensive than the standard RCBS dies but well worth it.
gnihcraes
08-09-2011, 20:24
Mobile One Synthetic.
$3.00 a quart = lifetime supply.
I had some one shot. I used it for a season, then came back to it and had the same experience. Stuck case twice on 7mag. Now using rcbs lube pad and tumbling off lube after loading.
Mobile One Synthetic.
$3.00 a quart = lifetime supply.
Oil is tough on primers and powder and hard to work with when loading on a progressive.
Not 100% sure but I think Dillon is the only game in town for carbide 223, 308 and 50 dies.
Check out their price on carbide 50 dies....
Oil is tough on primers and powder and hard to work with when loading on a progressive.
I calmed down a bit and set the press to manuel indexing and tried rezing with the lee lube and some reddings sizing wax. the Wax worked the best I do not have the touchless safety priming system yet. Will the wax effect the primers?
DSB OUTDOORS
08-09-2011, 21:15
Not 100% sure but I think Dillon is the only game in town for carbide 223, 308 and 50 dies.
Check out their price on carbide 50 dies....
Sportsmans has the RCBS .223 FL and the .308 FL carbide dies, at leaste the one in Thornton did as of 2 weeks ago. I use those in my single stage. Dillon for progressive.
If you are shooting .308 in a semi auto, I would recommend getting small base dies. Some gas guns will work with regular FL dies, but it's good to start with the SB's.
Sportsmans has the RCBS .223 FL and the .308 FL carbide dies, at leaste the one in Thornton did as of 2 weeks ago. I use those in my single stage. Dillon for progressive.
I had no idea that RCBS made carbide dies in rifle calibers. Small base dies yes, but not carbide. Good to know. Thanks.
Sportsmans has the RCBS .223 FL and the .308 FL carbide dies, at leaste the one in Thornton did as of 2 weeks ago. I use those in my single stage. Dillon for progressive.
Are you sure they were carbide? I saw some 223 and 308 dies in gray boxes and got all excited but they turned out to be their competition die set which I'm pretty sure are steel.
So what case lube do you guys suggest, or what are you using?
I have used the One Shot lube for years and years and tens of thousands of rounds and I have never had an issue. A small can will last for a few thousand cases and it's cheap.
Just curious what else is out there. I load 1000-3000 .223 a month
Are you sure they were carbide? I saw some 223 and 308 dies in gray boxes and got all excited but they turned out to be their competition die set which I'm pretty sure are steel.
The RCBS site shows no carbide rifle dies...
So what case lube do you guys suggest, or what are you using?
Imperial die wax is pretty much the gold standard.
However if One Shot is working for you, no need to fix it.
gnihcraes
08-10-2011, 12:36
Oil is tough on primers and powder and hard to work with when loading on a progressive.
Well, don't load them up after sizing, clean them again. I don't like greasy ammo anyway. [Beer]
The imperial die wax, appears to be mink oil. If you compare the two items side by side, look, feel, smell etc.
jerrymrc
08-10-2011, 16:02
Well, don't load them up after sizing, clean them again. I don't like greasy ammo anyway. [Beer]
The imperial die wax, appears to be mink oil. If you compare the two items side by side, look, feel, smell etc.
I am still kind of playing with the tumble/ultrasonic clean thing but I still like the tumbler for the polish after i size.
I am still just using the old rcbs lube on the fingers and have never had a stuck case.
DSB OUTDOORS
08-10-2011, 17:57
Are you sure they were carbide? I saw some 223 and 308 dies in gray boxes and got all excited but they turned out to be their competition die set which I'm pretty sure are steel.
I had no idea that RCBS made carbide dies in rifle calibers. Small base dies yes, but not carbide. Good to know. Thanks.
The RCBS site shows no carbide rifle dies...
Ya Sorry guys!! My bad!! They were my Compition dies / gray box. I have more reloading stuff than I can keep up with. I can admit when I'm wrong. Hoser is correct Dillon are the only carbide that I can find. [Beer]
Polished the inside of the die with some 600 grit and flitz metal polish on a bore mop. It is SHINY in there going to throw it back in the press and see if it is easier to size in general.
DSB OUTDOORS
08-10-2011, 20:14
?? What die's are you using now?? Brand?
?? What die's are you using now?? Brand?
Lee[Peep]
DSB OUTDOORS
08-10-2011, 20:21
Lee[Peep]
No need to hide. I still use Lee dies for some things. The reason I asked, is I did the same thing with RCBS 500 S&W die hoping that would clean it up. But it didn't. RCBS took it back and sent me a new set, No ?? asked. Check with Lee and see what they say if it doesn't work for you!! [Beer]
Lee[Peep]
I use Lee for .223 and all pistol calibers and RCBS for all other rifle calibers. Theres nothing wrong with the Lee dies IMO
DSB OUTDOORS
08-10-2011, 20:40
Lee[Peep]
P.S. ^^^^^Good choice in the little hiddey dude that cracked me up!![Beer] Lee dies work....
jerrymrc
08-10-2011, 20:52
P.S. ^^^^^Good choice in the little hiddey dude that cracked me up!![Beer] Lee dies work....
I tried the RCBS in .308 and went back to my Lee. I know one is supposed to spend big bucks but for me the stuff works fine. Now if I needed to crank out 500 rds per week I would look to the blue stuff.[Coffee][Peep]
DSB OUTDOORS
08-11-2011, 06:52
I tried the RCBS in .308 and went back to my Lee. I know one is supposed to spend big bucks but for me the stuff works fine. Now if I needed to crank out 500 rds per week I would look to the blue stuff.[Coffee][Peep]
Yup!! Love my Dillon!![Love4]
Well, don't load them up after sizing, clean them again. I don't like greasy ammo anyway.
Naaah. I dont want to turn my Dillon 1050 into a rockchucker...
gnihcraes
08-11-2011, 13:46
Naaah. I dont want to turn my Dillon 1050 into a rockchucker...
[ROFL1] My rockchucker takes offense to that.
Zombie Steve
08-11-2011, 21:17
So what case lube do you guys suggest, or what are you using?
I have used the One Shot lube for years and years and tens of thousands of rounds and I have never had an issue. A small can will last for a few thousand cases and it's cheap.
Just curious what else is out there. I load 1000-3000 .223 a month
Good Lord, I thought I was the only one! These folk must be using OncefiredfromasloppychamberM249® brass.
Don't be afraid to spray the crap out of them. Make sure you let 'em sit for a minute.
Yep I agree Steve, I soak em pretty good, but a can still lasts quit a while
Imperial die wax is pretty much the gold standard.
However if One Shot is working for you, no need to fix it.
above is what i use bought one tin and hardly have used a qaurter of it and gone though 2-3k .223 i like it, but some dont like getting wax all over there hands!
coop
NW CO Raptor Feeding
09-01-2011, 13:06
I have been using one-shot for 3 years with no problems 2k-3k a year......I lay them all out on a beer flat alternating, leaving one out at the end. I hose them down, let them sit a couple minutes, roll them, then hose them again. Using cheapo RCBS wallyworld dies. It takes a little time to lay them out in a beer flat, but it works. 1k-to 1500 per can usually
I use Forsters lube.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=300002
I put some on a rag and throw the cases in a old Playmate lunch box with it. Rattle them around and it works great for me. I've had trouble with both RCBS spray lube and Hornady one shot lube. When I use Forsters it takes so little pressure that you wonder if you have the die set properly. My experience anyways. Stuck cases are a thing of the past to me. But if the other lubes work for you I wouldn't see any reason to change.
I have been using one-shot for 3 years with no problems 2k-3k a year......I lay them all out on a beer flat alternating, leaving one out at the end. I hose them down, let them sit a couple minutes, roll them, then hose them again. Using cheapo RCBS wallyworld dies. It takes a little time to lay them out in a beer flat, but it works. 1k-to 1500 per can usually
Cheapo RCBS wallyworld dies? Since when did RCBS become garbage. Just because Wal-Mart sells them doesn't make them "cheap"
That's strange. One shot is all I could get to work while necking the 223 up to 6mm. The RCBS case lube with just a light tacky coat was hydraulically indenting the cases. With One Shot I just sprayed the cases with a complete coat and no problems.
Not_A_Llama
09-11-2011, 16:21
Cheapo RCBS wallyworld dies? Since when did RCBS become garbage. Just because Wal-Mart sells them doesn't make them "cheap"
Your Walmart sells reloading dies??? :eek:
sabot_round
09-16-2011, 14:23
Your Walmart sells reloading dies??? :eek:
So does the WM in Fountain.
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