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Mtn.man
08-12-2011, 11:18
Are preppers the new terrorists? FBI wants military surplus stores to spy on customers (http://www.backwoodshome.com/blogs/OliverDelSignore/2011/08/12/are-preppers-the-new-terrorists-fbi-wants-military-surplus-stores-to-spy-on-customers/)

Friday, August 12th, 2011 |What do you folks make of the flyer reproduced below?
It’s a new FBI handout that’s being distributed in that hotbed of potential terrorism, Colorado, USA according to a Wednesday Oath Keepers posting (http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2011/08/10/7769/).
According to the FBI, if you value your privacy, that makes you suspicious. Or if you buy a lot of MREs (Meals, Ready-to-Eat) or stuff like weatherproofed ammunition or match containers or dangerous stuff like night vision devices, night flashlights, and gas masks. It’s good to know, though, that the FBI apparently thinks daytime flashlights are okay. After all, many of us do need flashlights to augment daytime sunlight so we can properly see.
And they do let you know that
Some of the activities, taken individually, could be innocent and must be examined by law enforcement professionals in a larger context to determine whether there is a basis to investigate. The activities outlined on this handout are by no means all-inclusive but have been compiled from a review of terrorist events over several years.
So on the one hand, they tell you that one of the listed activities by itself does not necessarily mean the person is a potential terrorist. On the other hand, they remind you that there are many other, undisclosed activities, that should be considered suspicious, thus encouraging us to report pretty much everyone so “law enforcement professionals” can examine them.
What I like best, though, is the fine print.
You know how advertisers often put the disclosures they hope you won’t read in small print at the bottom of the ad? I guess the FBI figured if it works for used car sales it can work for them.
Each indicator listed above, is by itself, lawful conduct or behavior and may also constitute the exercise of rights guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution. In addition, there may be a wholly innocent explanation for conduct or behavior that appears suspicious in nature. For this reason, no single indicator should be the sole basis for law enforcement action. The totality of behavioral indicators and other relevant circumstances should be evaluated when considering any law enforcement response or action.
Well, that’s good to know. Just buying some MREs probably won’t get me flagged. But if I buy a few cases of MREs, a weatherproof match container for camping, and pass over the daytime flashlights and buy one to use at night, in the dark, I should expect a visit from the feds to make sure I’m not up to something nefarious.
So…what do you think of this latest attempt by the feds to get us all spying on one-another?
Note: Click on the graphic to view a larger version.
http://www.backwoodshome.com/blogs/OliverDelSignore/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/110812-1.jpg (http://www.backwoodshome.com/blogs/OliverDelSignore/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/110812-2ColoradoFBISurplusStoreHandout.jpg)

stevelkinevil
08-12-2011, 11:47
Big Brother is watching you, but its for your own good.

Sharpienads
08-12-2011, 11:51
Well it only makes sense. I mean, what kind of right-wing radical would need MRE's, night vision devices, AND night flashlights?

But like the disclaimer says, you can exercise your constitutionally protected rights, but only one at a time. If you mix, say freedom of speech and 2A, then you're obviously a terrorist. At the very least somebody needs to report you.

Ridiculous. But I'm already on their watch list since I'm an Iraq and Afghanistan veteran, like guns and believe in God. Remember that little report?

Oh, and by the way, MRE stand for Meals Rejected by Ethiopians [Tooth]

StagLefty
08-12-2011, 11:55
How can I tell if my current flashlights are daytime or nightime ? [ROFL1]

alan0269
08-12-2011, 11:55
What a crock of BS! It looks like anyone planning on gearing up to take their kid on his first camping trip or preparing for any kind of disaster would be performing a "suspicious activity".

"Oh look dear, that guy and his kid are buying a tent, some MRE's, and some other camping items - how nice."

"Yeah, but he's paying with [gulp] CASH! Quick, call the FBI so that they can aprehend this obvious terrorist!!!"

Ronin13
08-12-2011, 11:57
Well it only makes sense. I mean, what kind of right-wing radical would need MRE's, night vision devices, AND night flashlights?

But like the disclaimer says, you can exercise your constitutionally protected rights, but only one at a time. If you mix, say freedom of speech and 2A, then you're obviously a terrorist. At the very least somebody needs to report you.

Ridiculous. But I'm already on their watch list since I'm an Iraq and Afghanistan veteran, like guns and believe in God. Remember that little report?

Oh, and by the way, MRE stand for Meals Rejected by Ethiopians [Tooth]

Hey cool, we might be sitting in the interrogation room together! "So you're both veterans, have guns, and all these 'suspicious' shopping activities. Are you guys terrorists?"
"No sir, we're Americans."
Be right back, gotta make my tin foil hat now!

alan0269
08-12-2011, 12:30
Be right back, gotta make my tin foil hat now!

Here you go:

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q21/alan0269/tin_foil_hat_area.jpg

airborneranger
08-12-2011, 12:39
Thank god I only have daytime flashlights. Nevermind that stash of ammo.......[UZI]

DOC
08-12-2011, 13:18
What would a terrorist need with MRE's for? The real Terrorists don't survive long enough to go on the run. Unless they are looking for crazy right wingers that might like eating those MRE's. An elder family member loves them but I find them to bland for my tastes.
Maybe, I'd take a couple camping in case I get lost I won't starve but that is about it and that is what they are made for IIRC.
A guy from another post had a police visit for owning to many guns... (if there is such a thing). I personally tell them to go away and refuse to let them in without a warrant, because my place isn't clean enough for company and I say no to them on general principal. But code enforcers are the worst, because they think they own the place.

BushMasterBoy
08-12-2011, 13:49
Don't forget the hydrogen peroxide the bleach blondes use! Remember the Islamic scumbag from Denver? He bought hydrogen peroxide containing materials from a beauty shop. I think the FBI has the preppers confused with actual terrorists, poor misguided bastids. Besides MRE's have alot of pork entrees, they ain't gonna eat that crap. If they are going to spend money, spend it to track these foreigners that mean us harm. These worthless pamphlets and flyers are so nonsensical that I regard them with the same seriousness as comic books.

Zundfolge
08-12-2011, 14:12
What would a terrorist need with MRE's for?
Weapons of appetite destruction.


I love how under the heading of "What Should I Consider Suspicious?" at the bottom it says "It is important to remember that just because someone's speech, actions, beliefs, appearance, or way of life is different; it does not mean that he or she is suspicious."


Furthermore, most of the folk that OWN and OPERATE "Military Surplus Stores" fit this paranoid description MORE than their average customers.

Of course anyone with an avatar of an armed squirrel ... well you just KNOW that kook should be on a watchlist ... er something.


Anyway, at this point, if you still don't realize that the government is not your friend you're hopeless.

stevelkinevil
08-12-2011, 14:24
Weapons of appetite destruction.


I love how under the heading of "What Should I Consider Suspicious?" at the bottom it says "It is important to remember that just because someone's speech, actions, beliefs, appearance, or way of life is different; it does not mean that he or she is suspicious."


Furthermore, most of the folk that OWN and OPERATE "Military Surplus Stores" fit this paranoid description MORE than their average customers.

Of course anyone with an avatar of an armed squirrel ... well you just KNOW that kook should be on a watchlist ... er something.


Anyway, at this point, if you still don't realize that the government is not your friend you're hopeless.

Its funny most folks still don't have a clue.

Ronin13
08-12-2011, 14:32
Its funny most folks still don't have a clue.

The government is like a hooker- you pay way more than you really want to, you get f*cked, and in the end it really wasn't worth it.

tonantius
08-12-2011, 14:57
The purpose is obvious - they believe that preppers, tea partiers, and religious conservatives are the new terrorists. The latest Rasmussen poll shows that only 17% of Americans believe that the federal government is governing with the consent of the people. Before the American Revolution it was 33%. It is a powder keg waiting for a spark.

The American Revolution started with a tea party in Boston Harbor as a tax protest. The Boston riot was in response to martial law being declared. The Massacre happened during the riot.

Then a year later the government decided to grab guns and ammo from Lexington and Concord. Then the powder keg blew.

We are at the same point. The elections are too far away. Be ready!

jerrymrc
08-12-2011, 18:15
I guess since I promote this stuff my door is next. [Coffee] I just want to know how being prepared for an emergency went from common sence to terrorist.

Mtn.man
08-12-2011, 19:29
The HIPPIES are in power.

Scanker19
08-12-2011, 20:55
Terrorist or resistors? Good thing I...... Never mind.[Flower]

Scanker19
08-12-2011, 23:10
So profiling is wrong unless its against americans.