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hollohas
08-19-2011, 10:43
California Police Sticking to Guns in Defense of Letting Kids Hold Automatic Weapons (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/18/police-defend-letting-kids-hold-automatic-weapons/?test=latestnews)
Photos of officers from the Santa Rosa Police Department letting kids handle the department’s SWAT team weaponry at a community event has sparked a debate over how much exposure to guns is healthy for kids.
Community organizer Attila Nagy, who took the photos, told FoxNews.com that he was concerned it might encourage kids to use guns in the future.
Wow.
But the police department is pushing back, saying they see nothing wrong with how they handled the event.
"The weapons are rendered safe and are unloaded. We ensure the safety of those weapons," Santa Rosa Police Capt. Gary Negri told FoxNews.com, adding that the police attend the event to build ties between the police and the community.
"Our goal is saying to people, ‘hey, don't be intimidated by the police.’ We want to break down that barrier… Once these events are over, people will be more comfortable having conversations with officers.”
Another goal, Negri said, was to educate kids about guns.
“Education and gun safety is a component of what we do… We teach kids the difference between a real gun and a Toys R' Us gun.”
But the department's response hasn't convinced everyone. One woman, Elaine Holtz, was so concerned by the SWAT team's weapons that she approached the police officer at the community event and asked what was going on.
"I would not want my child to be involved with something like that... Those guns, they should have been behind glass -- to teach the kids that you don't want to deal with this gun, because it kills." Holtz told FoxNews.com.
I'm glad the police aren't backing down. They did a good thing and the people should be happy the police would do something like this. Some of the quotes from people that are upset about it are crazy.
SuperiorDG
08-19-2011, 11:06
"I did not see any education going on; it looked like it was just fun,"
Education should not be fun. This is what they (the conservatives) are teaching.
I tend to take points made by community organizers/activists with a grain of salt.
Those named Nagy or Attilla? Even more so.
Zundfolge
08-19-2011, 11:26
Police let kids hold guns, Idiots get upset...
There, fixed it for you.
Goddamn blissninnies. I swear, there's so damn many people in this country that just need a good slappin'. OF COURSE kids should be exposed to firearms! They need to be taught all about them, how they work, how to shoot them and what they can and can't do.
I was raised with guns, every member of my family that I can recall owned and shot guns and hunted, except my mom. She had enough to do with cooking the birds! My folks enrolled me in a Police Athletic League class and Sgt. Ernie Powell taught us all about guns and marksmanship with .22 rifles. I even have an old 8mm movie of my grandma blasting away at cans with her .410, which I now own.
I got my grandson into shooting when he was 9 or 10, and the first thing I showed him was what bullets could do to cans and jugs of water, and taught him that bullets do the same to human beings. He's 14 now and damn careful with guns! He loves to shoot, but I'm real proud of the way he handles them.
Kids that know about guns and grow up with them, will respect them. Kids that are kept away from guns are the ones that seek them out and do stupid shit with them.
"Should kids be allowed to touch a machine gun?" Hell no, they should be allowed to SHOOT machine guns!
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/misc%20shooting/mp501.jpg
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Delfuego
08-19-2011, 11:35
I'd get upset too! If ONLY the kids get to touch the guns...
Rooskibar03
08-19-2011, 11:54
People like this woman make me Facepalm myself.
""I would not want my child to be involved with something like that... Those guns, they should have been behind glass -- to teach the kids that you don't want to deal with this gun, because it kills." Holtz told FoxNews.com.
"I am coming from the heart of a woman, a mother, a grandmother," she added."
What does being a woman, mother, and grandmother have to do with anything. What is she Nancy Pelosi?
Scanker19
08-19-2011, 11:57
Put her behind glass cause kids should not be exposed to her.
KevDen2005
08-19-2011, 12:03
Put her behind glass cause kids should not be exposed to her.
+1
People are so stupid...
hollohas
08-19-2011, 12:04
Put her behind glass cause kids should not be exposed to her.
^Well said.
I think the police did a good thing here. Not only to teach kids about guns but to also teach kids that police can be cool.
hollohas
08-19-2011, 12:06
"Should kids be allowed to touch a machine gun?" Hell no, they should be allowed to SHOOT machine guns!
Damn straight!
poor little parents, scarred their kids might actually have to deal with something in the real world or maybe they might get exposed to their freedoms they should be able to enjoy.
two shoes
08-19-2011, 12:25
poor little parents, scarred their kids might actually have to deal with something in the real world or maybe they might get exposed to their freedoms they should be able to enjoy.
+100
No shit! I would say that these types of parents will not be around to protect the kids from everything for forever, but I have known more than one where living at home until their 30's was the norm....
My boys can clear just about any gun safely (set safety if applicable, drop mag, work action to clear chamber). If they encounter something they haven't seen, they leave it alone, gtfo and know to call me. This is in case they had a dip-shit friend get stupid while visiting.
I was raised in a home where guns were a non-issue. Not good, not bad, but also not educated about them. When I became an adult I thought it would be a nice hobby so I got into it. I can say after a few years now, from a firsthand experience of knowing nothing about firearms except from movies and the media, the most dangerous thing about guns is people's pre-conceived notions regarding them. I say teach your kids, teach your family's kids, teach anyone willing to listen.
airborneranger
08-19-2011, 12:46
+100
No shit! I would say that these types of parents will not be around to protect the kids from everything for forever, but I have known more than one where living at home until their 30's was the norm....
My boys can clear just about any gun safely (set safety if applicable, drop mag, work action to clear chamber). If they encounter something they haven't seen, they leave it alone, gtfo and know to call me. This is in case they had a dip-shit friend get stupid while visiting.
I am with you on this one. Both my girls can load, clear and reduce a stoppage on their .22s.
These people act like this because they live in a bubble of stupidity. They actually believe that America would be safer if you took away guns. Freaking idiots. Just look around the world and you will see that those with guns rule - period. I want to ship these idiots off to Iraq or Afghanistan or even Africa (chose your country) to see how bad off it really is.
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BPTactical
08-19-2011, 16:28
I was raised in a home where guns were a non-issue. Not good, not bad, but also not educated about them. When I became an adult I thought it would be a nice hobby so I got into it. I can say after a few years now, from a firsthand experience of knowing nothing about firearms except from movies and the media, the most dangerous thing about guns is people's pre-conceived notions regarding them. I say teach your kids, teach your family's kids, teach anyone willing to listen.
+1
Hollyweird has done such a disservice to firearms.
In my house growing firearms were also a non issue, there were firearms around so whats the issue?
Another +1 on educating childeren on firearms.
Kids will be kids and do stupid things but if a child is taught early regarding firearm handling and safety I feel that it really kills alot of curiosity they may have.
Curiosity killed the cat, and unfortunately it kills kids too.
When both of my boys were ankle biters and we started shooting one of the first things I had them shoot was old melons. Punching paper and even tin cans I dont think a child fully grasps the concept of what a firearm is capable of.
Let them explode a couple of melons and they get it and realize the consequences of pulling a trigger.
As far as the article-good for the PD, screw the councilwoman and the other is a community organizer, just as our vacationing prez used to be.
Any questions?
In middle school (not in Cali) I remember being on a field trip and getting a turn in one of those simulators where you have the projected movie and have to react to a random situation. I'd argue that was a potentially more intense experience because I was put in a position to take someone down. Everyone on the trip had a go at it. Nobody actually died and no parents had a problem with it. It was just another thing I did with a fairly neutral effect.
hammer03
08-19-2011, 21:28
I was raised in a home where guns were a non-issue. Not good, not bad, but also not educated about them. When I became an adult I thought it would be a nice hobby so I got into it. I can say after a few years now, from a firsthand experience of knowing nothing about firearms except from movies and the media, the most dangerous thing about guns is people's pre-conceived notions regarding them. I say teach your kids, teach your family's kids, teach anyone willing to listen.
Ditto and agreed!
Have to say, pleasantly surprised that California police did it. Kudos to them.
Only a few leftwingnuts were upset.
Carry on nothing here.
JackImpact
08-19-2011, 21:33
What?!? The Police Safely Handling And Bonding With Children? Oh No! End Of The World!
How Dare They Try And Be Responsible Or Involved With Their Community!?!?!
Geology Rocks
08-19-2011, 22:16
I was exposed to guns from the age of 9. I turned out just fine...these people are so dumb
joe
The people that say we have to teach children about sex and drugs at a young age so they know how to safely deal with it are the ones that say any exposure and knowledge about a weapon encourages their use and is dangerous.
of course maybe they saw that video where the atf guy or police officer came in to a class and ended up shooting himself in the foot. I always thought that was classic.
BPTactical
08-20-2011, 06:53
The people that say we have to teach children about sex and drugs at a young age so they know how to safely deal with it are the ones that say any exposure and knowledge about a weapon encourages their use and is dangerous.
Very well said.
Hypocrisy has no bounds..............................
Colorado_Outback
08-20-2011, 07:00
Kalifornians.
Sad, pathetic. Bet that Holtz bitch is a liberal who has never touched a gun. Hope Colorado does't get that bad.
DON'T HOPE, VOTE!
Thats the only way to keep Colorado form turning into mini-california..
Show up at the polls and vote for what you believe in!!
rockhound
08-20-2011, 08:09
Guns should only be in museums [LOL]
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