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tactuppernut
08-19-2011, 15:24
I'm beginning a thread on subject due to stirring up controversy over the matter down in "wanted" marketplace with what look to be landowners with itchy trigger fingers ignorant of trespass laws in CO.
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41690

The advice I've given there pertained to non-enclosed, non-posted land and is accurate. After re-researching ,I have fucked up. It is not accurate. Detailed thread below.

Here's my question;
If you wanted to ask a landowner for permission to hunt on enclosed and or posted land that has no residential or other inhabited structures on it, how do you locate the landowner in order to ask permission?
I'm looking for previous experience, no hypothesis or second guessing. We don't want anybody doing the wrong thing.

TFOGGER
08-19-2011, 15:41
The first step would be a search of the County Assessor's website, usually you can find ownership records online. Then you may be able to contact the owner via snail mail, or sometimes you can find a contact number via something like Dex or Google people search.

rondog
08-19-2011, 15:47
I'd love to do some poodle bustin', just haven't gotten around to looking for a place. But I think I'd start with finding the nearest human and asking them "who owns that patch of land over there with all the p. dogs on it? I'd like to ask him if he'd like some of them eliminated." Next step would be knocking on doors.

trout_champ
08-19-2011, 16:58
Well the area we go big game hunting on has a lot of private land. If we want to look at a particular piece we hook up with the game warden and ask if he knows who owns the land. The second thing we do is either ask neighboring property owners if they know who owns the land. Third we ask other hunters we see if they know who owns the land.

We can usually find out who owns the land one of these ways, but when asking if we can scope out there land or even hunt on it we usually get shot down.

Randy

HBARleatherneck
08-19-2011, 17:47
delete

tactuppernut
08-20-2011, 10:41
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41690


The advice I've given there pertained to non-enclosed, non-posted land and is accurate. After re-researching ,I have fucked up. It is not accurate. Detailed thread below. Before looking for P-dog spots the 1st time, I researched trespass laws online and CO land posting requirements. A federal website took me here:

Sec. 30.05. CRIMINAL TRESPASS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person enters or remains on or in property of another, including residential land, agricultural land, a recreational vehicle park, a building, or an aircraft or other vehicle, without effective consent and the person:
(1) had notice that the entry was forbidden; or
(2) received notice to depart but failed to do so.
(b) For purposes of this section:
(1) "Entry" means the intrusion of the entire body.
(2) "Notice" means:
(A) oral or written communication by the owner or someone with apparent authority to act for the owner;
(B) fencing or other enclosure obviously designed to exclude intruders or to contain livestock;
(C) a sign or signs posted on the property or at the entrance to the building, reasonably likely to come to the attention of intruders, indicating that entry is forbidden;
(D) the placement of identifying purple paint marks on trees or posts on the property, provided that the marks are:
(i) vertical lines of not less than eight inches in length and not less than one inch in width;
(ii) placed so that the bottom of the mark is not less than three feet from the ground or more than five feet from the ground; and
(iii) placed at locations that are readily visible to any person approaching the property and no more than:
(a) 100 feet apart on forest land; or
(b) 1,000 feet apart on land other than forest land; or
(E) the visible presence on the property of a crop grown for human consumption that is under cultivation, in the process of being harvested, or marketable if harvested at the time of entry.


Complete link;http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/SOTWDocs/PE/htm/PE.30.htm

I did not notice url TX link. I did not research penal code any further. It bumped me to a State Of Texas website.


I really fucked up. My deepest apologies to everybody, I don't remember ever feeling this rotten before.


The only clarification to CO criminal trespass law is this from The Bureau Of Land Management:

PRIVATE LANDS
Two-thirds of the land area of the State of Colorado is privately owned. It is unlawful to enter private lands in Colorado without permission of the landowner. Colorado law does not require private lands to be marked, fenced or posted in any manner. Depending on the circumstances, trespass in Colorado may be prosecuted as a misdemeanor or as a felony. Additionally, the Colorado Revised Statutes state that "it is unlawful for any person to enter upon privately owned land or lands under the control of the State Board of Land Commissioners to take any wildlife by hunting, trapping, or fishing without first obtaining permission from the owner or person in possession of such land." The responsibility of knowing whether you are on private or public land is YOURS.
On non-navigable rivers and streams, the adjacent landowners' jurisdiction extends to the middle of the stream or river. Colorado law does allow floating access on a stream or river as long as no contact is made with the river bottom or shoreline while passing through (over) private lands.
How do I gain access to private lands?

"ASK FIRST" to get access to private lands and please respect the property of others. Responsible visitors or users always respect the land, whether it is private or public, and take care to leave it the way they found it. The landowner has the right to deny access on or across private lands -and- may charge an access or user fee for the use of those private lands.


http://www.blm.gov/co/st/en/BLM_Information/faqs/access.html

Irving
08-20-2011, 11:46
I'll say this about you, you sure are willing to throw it out there when you've made an error.

newracer
08-20-2011, 17:14
Like already posted, the assessor is a very good resource to get land owner information. Some counties also produce maps with land owner info, I have seen them Logan County. The only issue is sometimes all you get is a mailing address.

Knocking on doors is also a good way. Remember to be polite and respectful.

Getting permission to hunt bog game is a lot harder than getting permission to hunt p-dogs or coyotes.

sniper7
08-20-2011, 22:59
It helps having friends with 3000 acres and family with 10,000 acres.
also helps to have a good friend that is a john deere mechanic in colorados pheasant country.[Coffee]

newracer
08-20-2011, 23:30
Pheasants in Colorado. [ROFL1][LOL]

Akyla
08-22-2011, 18:25
I'll say this about you, you sure are willing to throw it out there when you've made an error.

Agreed. [Beer]

And I thought you might be happy to hear that my son and I made a few p-dogs part with this mortal world on Sunday.