View Full Version : Dont shoot dogs!
trlcavscout
08-19-2011, 17:50
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/chicago-police-must-pay-330k-killing-dog-home-200148841.html
Still doesnt make it right, but at least they got something.
freakin' awesome.
I also like that the officers themselves owe damages.
oh, and here's something for you
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/elhuero/infidel-arabic.jpg
only if you want
I have two pitbulls that are completely harmless. I would not be at all surprised, though, if one or both of them were shot if law enforcement had a reason to enter my dwelling on their own terms. That would be heartbreaking. On the other hand, I can sympathize with officers who have to prioritize their safety in volatile situations. It's the human threat that appears while they're dealing with the dog that officers need to worry about.
That being said, I don't have kids so anyone who shoots my dog(s) better hope I can't shoot my way to the gun-room. An AR with a SlideFire stock & a semi-auto shotgun could give a tactical team real problems when I'm in my concrete storage bunker with a gas mask on.
mcantar18c
08-21-2011, 14:54
Glad to see people being held responsible for their actions.
On another note (first thing that came to mind when I saw the thread title)...
Anybody know the laws about putting a dog down?
What do you mean? Like taking them to the vet, or if you're allowed to plug 'em then bury 'em?
I know that when you take them to the vet to get put down, they used to give them back to you so you could bury them. They don't anymore though, because they don't want the "put down" drugs leaching into the soil.
Drilldov2.0
08-21-2011, 16:33
As said before, glad to see some accountability.
Irving, the drugs survive the cremation now? I am taking my dogs (their ashes) with me when the time comes.
What do you mean? Like taking them to the vet, or if you're allowed to plug 'em then bury 'em?
I know that when you take them to the vet to get put down, they used to give them back to you so you could bury them. They don't anymore though, because they don't want the "put down" drugs leaching into the soil.
mcantar18c
08-21-2011, 16:52
What do you mean? Like taking them to the vet, or if you're allowed to plug 'em then bury 'em?
I know that when you take them to the vet to get put down, they used to give them back to you so you could bury them. They don't anymore though, because they don't want the "put down" drugs leaching into the soil.
I mean dig a hole out in the pasture, say your goodbyes, and give em a humane ending to their suffering. I've heard this is considered "animal abuse" by the greenies but I haven't really looked into it since my pup still has a good 5-8 years ahead of him, God willing, and I don't want to think about having to do it until I really do have to.
It absolutely sucks, one of the toughest things a man will face in his lifetime, but its part of being a man. You don't farm out the hard stuff just because you don't want to do it. Taking your best friend and family member (only family some of us can stand) to someone else that will strap em down to a table and stick em with a needle may be easier for you, but it ain't right.
I mean dig a hole out in the pasture, say your goodbyes, and give em a humane ending to their suffering. I've heard this is considered "animal abuse" by the greenies but I haven't really looked into it since my pup still has a good 5-8 years ahead of him, God willing, and I don't want to think about having to do it until I really do have to.
It absolutely sucks, one of the toughest things a man will face in his lifetime, but its part of being a man. You don't farm out the hard stuff just because you don't want to do it. Taking your best friend and family member (only family some of us can stand) to someone else that will strap em down to a table and stick em with a needle may be easier for you, but it ain't right.
You don't drop them off like an unwanted junk car and wash your hands of it. And they don't strap them down like some condemned criminal. You're there. You hold them and you comfort them as they slowly drift away, peacefully. I've had to do it twice and each time it was the hardest thing I've ever had to do. Putting them to sleep is a lot more humane than putting a bullet in them. I could never fathom letting that last memory, that last moment together, be something so violent.
mcantar18c
08-21-2011, 23:46
Guess its just another one of those things that's been pussified in our "modern" society.
I'll say it again, you don't farm out the hard stuff just cause you "can't" do it yourself. Sometimes unpleasant things just need to be done. I don't care how they do it at the vet, its YOUR dog and the deed should be done by YOUR hand.
You try too hard to be a hard ass. Are you planning on hand making a pine box for grandma and towing her to the cemetery on a horse drawn wagon too?
mcantar
Using your line of thinking
If you break your leg--do you take a hit of whisky and bite a stick and set it yourself or go to the ER? It's your leg so you should set it yourself.
A gunshot can be a humane way of dispatching an animal but modern drugs can make it much more humane.
Are you saying that being humane equals pussified?
mcantar18c
08-22-2011, 00:14
You try too hard to be a hard ass. Are you planning on hand making a pine box for grandma and towing her to the cemetery on a horse drawn wagon too?
I was raised to handle things myself, and I'm sure the others here raised similarly will back me up on this. I see it as almost disrespectful to the animal to have some stranger be the one to end its suffering, or anyone else other than its master for that matter.
By "end its suffering" I don't mean all of that "life is hard, the world is evil" bullshit, I mean in the sense that there's no need to put it down if its in good health.
mcantar
Using your line of thinking
If you break your leg--do you take a hit of whisky and bite a stick and set it yourself or go to the ER. It's your leg so you should set it yourself.
A gunshot can be a humane way of dispatching an animal but modern drugs can make it much more humane.
Are you saying that being humane equals pussified?
You apparently don't understand my line of thinking.
No, if I break a leg I will go see a professional that fixes people for a living. If my dog gets very sick, I will go take him to a professional that can help him.
But if its time, then its time...
I was raised to handle things myself, and I'm sure the others here raised similarly will back me up on this.
So do you bag all your trash and drive it to the dump as well? Where do you draw the line? I understand what you are trying to express, but are you going to prefer that your kids shoot you in the face when it's your "time?"
mcantar18c
08-22-2011, 00:24
So do you bag all your trash and drive it to the dump as well? Where do you draw the line? I understand what you are trying to express, but are you going to prefer that your kids shoot you in the face when it's your "time?"
I've lived far enough away from town that burning trash was more convenient, and did so. But there's someone that specializes in transporting people's waste to the dump, I live in an area that they service, and I don't owe any respect to a trash bag.
If something were to happen to me and nothing more can reasonably be done to save my life, I'd prefer that they pull the plug. I don't want to be confined to a hospital bed for the rest of my life, conscious or unconscious. But that's getting into a different conversation.
I've lived far enough away from town that burning trash was more convenient, and did so. But there's someone that specializes in transporting people's waste to the dump, I live in an area that they service, and I don't owe any respect to a trash bag.
If something were to happen to me and nothing more can reasonably be done to save my life, I'd prefer that they pull the plug. I don't want to be confined to a hospital bed for the rest of my life, conscious or unconscious. But that's getting into a different conversation.
Wait...you mean you wouldn't want your old man to toss you in a hole and blow your brains out instead? [Dunno]
mcantar18c
08-22-2011, 00:56
Wait...you mean you wouldn't want your old man to toss you in a hole and blow your brains out instead? [Dunno]
Yeah, I'd like to be tossed in a hole somewhere (buried, not cremated), preferably with my skull intact though.
Humans aren't dogs.
Wait...you mean you wouldn't want your old man to toss you in a hole and blow your brains out instead? [Dunno]
this is always where the discussion goes off the rails.
dogs =/= humans
this is always where the discussion goes off the rails.
dogs =/= humans
No. ^^Thaaats^^ where it gets off track.
It's quite obvious that humans aren't dogs but the logic there is fucking stupid, I'm no animal rights spokesperson here but gtfo of here with that old yeller shit dude.
Would you shoot your daughter's Guinea Pig?
mcantar18c
08-22-2011, 10:08
No. ^^Thaaats^^ where it gets off track.
It's quite obvious that humans aren't dogs but the logic there is fucking stupid, I'm no animal rights spokesperson here but gtfo of here with that old yeller shit dude.
You're comparing it to having my old man "throw me in a ditch and blow my brains out," and you're calling MY logic stupid? [Eek3]
Some men, ya just cant reach.
Would you shoot your daughter's Guinea Pig?
Not in front of her of course, but if there was reason to, why shouldn't I?
Back in the day when most folks were rural and there were no veterinarians people had to deal with what they had.
Fix their own equipement
Doctor themselves when sick or injured
Doctor animals when sick or injured
Now we have mechanics,doctors and veterinarians.
Vets have the means to help a sick or injured animal and the means to provide a humane painfree death when needed.
mcantar--you say you would see a doc for a broken leg or a vet for a sick animal. So you will use modern services. I don't understand why you think that putting an animal down should not be done using modern services rather than resorting back to a time when modern and more humane services were not available.
It's your choice --I agree with that but I do feel sorry for your pets if you have any.
mcantar18c
08-22-2011, 19:20
mcantar--you say you would see a doc for a broken leg or a vet for a sick animal. So you will use modern services. I don't understand why you think that putting an animal down should not be done using modern services rather than resorting back to a time when modern and more humane services were not available.
It's your choice --I agree with that but I do feel sorry for your pets if you have any.
I don't give a damn if its a "modern service" or its something that's been done the same way for 100 years... I will take myself or my dog to see a doc/vet if I need to simply because they're better at fixing humans and dogs than I am... not cause its a "modern service."
I don't see how laying there, slowly fading (and being aware of it) as chemicals spread throughout your body is more humane than a quick and immediate, painless ending.
Sutekiwa
08-22-2011, 19:36
I'm a spambot from Vietnam and I beg the moderators to ban me. Please!
mcantar18c
08-22-2011, 19:37
User with one post posting a link to something?
I smell spam.
Colorado Luckydog
08-22-2011, 19:59
I think there are a lot of cops that are way out of line these days. However, I wouldn't believe this story one way or another without seeing it with my own eyes.
As far as I know, these were good cops that a stinking left wing court system is putting the screws to.
I'm so sceptical nowdays, I don't believe shit. I'm going to do my best to take in the whole story and not throw all cops into one big bad group. (I have been guilty of that) I have seen enough with my own two eyes to know there are a lot of cops out of control but you have to hope there are still more good ones than bad. I don't know why even a bad cop would shoot a dog with it's tail wagging. Even other cops (good or bad) would rag his dumbass for that. Something smells fishy.
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