Youtube removing anti Muslim/Sharia videos

[UberTong]

I follow this guy on youtube, this kinda took the wind out of my sails.

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[Graves]

Who saw this coming?

[sneakerd]

Soooo- I don't suppose that vids making fun of Christianity, Judaism, etc are going to be removed also? I strongly dislike Islam and Islamists- (being kind there).[Peep]

[Elhuero]

this is the other video.

case in point why there are 33 round mags for glocks.



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my comment: allah and his followers can kiss my shiny daffodil ass.

[UberTong]

this is the other video.

case in point why there are 33 round mags for glocks.



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my comment: allah and his followers can kiss my shiny daffodil ass.


Elhuero, I just watched that one too. I was getting pissed off towards the end, then I read your comment and laughed. I'm gonna keep my comments about these people to myself today, wouldn't be pretty. Could be banworthy.

[lead_magnet]

Dont even get me started...[Rant1]

[Elhuero]

yeah, that second video had me pretty steamed.

[rondog]

Aw man, I've gotta get back on the reloading press to stock up for this shit too? My shoulder already hurts.....

[sneakerd]

Bastards.

[mopar]

Are the You Tube people afraid of muslim terrorists or politically correct libtards? or both?

[Elhuero]

Are the You Tube people afraid of muslim terrorists or politically correct libtards? or both?

they are afraid of terrorists.

my comment on the first vid:

of course youtube is taking the videos down. weak willed leftists always submit when their lives are threatened

[mopar]

they are afraid of terrorists.

my comment on the first vid:

of course youtube is taking the videos down. weak willed leftists always submit when their lives are threatened
Thats the reason we gotta stay strong brother.[AR15]

[Bailey Guns]

Well, if YouTube is actively removing anti-Muslim videos, they gotta lotta work to do. I searched "Islam Sucks" and 7 pages of some very graphic anti-Islam stuff came up.

[Hoosier]

What were the reasons the video was taken down? Youtube doesn't have people who sit there and monitor videos, it's all done via notices. Either users flag it, or a lawyer (or anyone who knows what the deal is) sends a "DMCA Takedown Notice" saying, "We are the copyright owners for this, and don't wish it seen." They have to make that statement under oath, and at that point YT rips it down for infringing, with a notice saying such.

The other reason would be it was flagged by viewers, and went to low paid people in their content reponse business, who have a set of rules to follow, such as "Does this video depict violence" or who know what their conditions are. If it fails there it should have a notice of such.

It's far too easy (and too common) for all sides to blame Google for being censorship, which it's following the guidelines laid down either by the government or it's own corporate policy. If you find that their corporate policy specifically says, "Ignore bad press about Mooslems", then you have a news story. Otherwise you just have a sensationalist story designed to stick it to the man and/or garner news attention.

The other side of the coin is subjects like Scientology will be systematically flagged for DMCA violation, even when there is none. Fringe groups, from Muslims to White Supremacists use "Get out the (Internet) Vote" campaign to go and upvote/flag/downvote/report/ballot stuff all across the intertubes. There's a reason why Ron Paul always wins every internet poll ever, and it isn't due to a higher concentration of R.P. voters online.

H.

[sneakerd]

Mopar is absolutely right. That was in Dearborn, MI. What's going to happen if/when there is an "Arab Festival" here? Not that it's the apocolypse, but they want us all dead or converted to Islam. That is a fact. This is why we train. [Weight][Weight]

[DOC]

Is he a youtube partner? That threw out my video's that they didn't like only after I became a partner. Don't do it you won't make a dime anyway.

[Scanker19]

I'm pretty tolerant of others beliefs, even though I'm a big Atheist, for instance I do say and believe "under god" should be in the pledge, but these fucking people make me draw a line.

[UberTong]

Thats the reason we gotta stay strong brother.[AR15]

+1 Amen

[airborneranger]

That video makes me sick.

[sniper7]

had a lot to write, but better to keep it to myself.

[UberTong]

Or we all could just let it fly...just sayin. Its never good to keep it in. [LOL]

[sneakerd]

Train- train- train. Be ready to defend yourself against? whatever happens.

[UberTong]

Yeah, you're correct sneakerd. I guess just my range time isn't enough to be considered training. I need to get started on some training this winter.

[Jer]

Train- train- train. Be ready to defend yourself against? whatever happens.

And, equally as important, don't put yourself in situations such as this. I've found that for the years I've carried I've been FAR less likely to need my firearm than I had in the years leading up do to an increased sense of situational awareness and know when to avoid certain areas or situations. This goes along the lines of walking softly but carrying a big stick.

[Irving]

We should build a wall between the US and Islam.

[Ronin13]

I'm curious what happened to those guys... did they press assault charges on the security guards? I would have. The end of the video they approached the real cops and complained that they were assaulted. What constitutes assault? I'm an amateur film-maker and if someone hits my $1500 camera does that constitute assault? Also, what if they break said $1500 equipment? Can I press charges? I would certainly try since that's my hard earned money, and I think it would fall under criminal destruction of property. I wouldn't go to a Muslim deal wearing a blatant christian shirt, but I would like to get a vid of some questions being answered, and no instigating, just harmless asking of questions.
Seems to me like this is just another reason I own firearms, for when they do try to make sharia law our law I can stand up and die like a man than live in submission on my knees.

[UberTong]

And, equally as important, don't put yourself in situations such as this. I've found that for the years I've carried I've been FAR less likely to need my firearm than I had in the years leading up do to an increased sense of situational awareness and know when to avoid certain areas or situations. This goes along the lines of walking softly but carrying a big stick.

I agree with that to a point, but these situations in the video SHOULDN'T be happening in AMERICA in the first place.

[airborneranger]

I'm curious what happened to those guys... did they press assault charges on the security guards? I would have. The end of the video they approached the real cops and complained that they were assaulted. What constitutes assault? I'm an amateur film-maker and if someone hits my $1500 camera does that constitute assault? Also, what if they break said $1500 equipment? Can I press charges? I would certainly try since that's my hard earned money, and I think it would fall under criminal destruction of property. I wouldn't go to a Muslim deal wearing a blatant christian shirt, but I would like to get a vid of some questions being answered, and no instigating, just harmless asking of questions.
Seems to me like this is just another reason I own firearms, for when they do try to make sharia law our law I can stand up and die like a man than live in submission on my knees.

The camera folks were probably charged with trespassing. [Rant1]

[Jer]

I agree with that to a point, but these situations in the video SHOULDN'T be happening in AMERICA in the first place.

I agree these situations shouldn't be happening but it's pretty obvious they were there looking for trouble. They found it. Their objective when they set out was the create this situation. Mission accomplished. Things could have gone MUCH worse than they did and while they may have been 'right' they could have been injured or worse.

[UberTong]

Again I disagree to a point. They did create the situation, but did they really do anything wrong? If Muslims came to a Christian convention and did the same thing, and were treated the same...it would be all over the news. And if things went MUCH worse as you pointed out, wouldn't that prove the Christians points that much more? The whole thing is flawed is my point, that they can't go there to a 'peaceful religion' and ask questions without punkass Muzzie kids and security guards ganging up on them. Its so fucked that our cops are too afraid to do anything to them, but will gladly fall down and appease the masses of the muslim attendees who obviously violated more than a few rules/laws. Its just sad to hear people even say, well they shouldn't have been there they were obviously there for trouble, we should just avoid it all. This was America. Muslims can hold a convention, Christians should be able to go and ask questions peacefully as they were. Thats all I'm saying. We keep avoiding the problem like this and how our government and cops do...we will have a bigger problem than we know.

[Jer]

Again I disagree to a point. They did create the situation, but did they really do anything wrong? If Muslims came to a Christian convention and did the same thing, and were treated the same...it would be all over the news. And if things went MUCH worse as you pointed out, wouldn't that prove the Christians points that much more? The whole thing is flawed is my point, that they can't go there to a 'peaceful religion' and ask questions without punkass Muzzie kids and security guards ganging up on them. Its so fucked that our cops are too afraid to do anything to them, but will gladly fall down and appease the masses of the muslim attendees who obviously violated more than a few rules/laws. Its just sad to hear people even say, well they shouldn't have been there they were obviously there for trouble, we should just avoid it all. This was America. Muslims can hold a convention, Christians should be able to go and ask questions peacefully as they were. Thats all I'm saying. We keep avoiding the problem like this and how our government and cops do...we will have a bigger problem than we know.

I said that I wouldn't have been in that situation. I don't go looking for trouble. They weren't simply asking questions they were obviously trying to stir the pot. Glad you brought up a Christian Convention because I can see this exact same thing happening if rolls were reversed. If Muslims went to enough of them they would get similar footage if that was their goal just like there are groups who try to stir the pot at several places until they get the required footage to suit their needs.

I'm not sympathizing with their cause in the least but more trying to look at the whole situation from a neutral standpoint. What they did was wrong and as such they should be charged where applicable but the guys stirring the hornets nest were also wrong for creating the situation with the intent of airing the footage to further their cause. What they did may not be prosecutable (they were asked to leave so I'm not sure if this constitutes some sort of trespassing since this appears to have occurred on public property) but to instigate it is morally wrong if nothing else. Personally, I wouldn't go looking for trouble because I may find it.

[Ronin13]

Again I disagree to a point. They did create the situation, but did they really do anything wrong? If Muslims came to a Christian convention and did the same thing, and were treated the same...it would be all over the news. And if things went MUCH worse as you pointed out, wouldn't that prove the Christians points that much more? The whole thing is flawed is my point, that they can't go there to a 'peaceful religion' and ask questions without punkass Muzzie kids and security guards ganging up on them. Its so fucked that our cops are too afraid to do anything to them, but will gladly fall down and appease the masses of the muslim attendees who obviously violated more than a few rules/laws. Its just sad to hear people even say, well they shouldn't have been there they were obviously there for trouble, we should just avoid it all. This was America. Muslims can hold a convention, Christians should be able to go and ask questions peacefully as they were. Thats all I'm saying. We keep avoiding the problem like this and how our government and cops do...we will have a bigger problem than we know.

This! Thank you Pete... I have a dream, that one day all religions will be able to openly and peacefully discuss their differences without turning to violen- wait, that doesn't work... Islam isn't peaceful so how they can hold a conversation with non-Muslims without turning somewhat violent is impossible!

[UberTong]

I said that I wouldn't have been in that situation. I don't go looking for trouble. They weren't simply asking questions they were obviously trying to stir the pot. Glad you brought up a Christian Convention because I can see this exact same thing happening if rolls were reversed. If Muslims went to enough of them they would get similar footage if that was their goal just like there are groups who try to stir the pot at several places until they get the required footage to suit their needs.

I'm not sympathizing with their cause in the least but more trying to look at the whole situation from a neutral standpoint. What they did was wrong and as such they should be charged where applicable but the guys stirring the hornets nest were also wrong for creating the situation with the intent of airing the footage to further their cause. What they did may not be prosecutable (they were asked to leave so I'm not sure if this constitutes some sort of trespassing since this appears to have occurred on public property) but to instigate it is morally wrong if nothing else. Personally, I wouldn't go looking for trouble because I may find it.

Agree to disagree. [Beer]

There is no neutral on this topic, in my opinion. Because there is no neutral in Islam, and they have no neutral for us. I don't go looking for trouble either, but what happened there and what continues to happen in our country is spineless and wrong. Just my .02, I'm out on this one.

[sniper7]

People are going to fight over religion no matter what. thousands of years and hundreds of millions of dead have proved this. It will not change. The only thing we can do is to keep the most dangerous and most controversial and the most widely known deadly killers apart...being Christianity and islam.

We were already here so the rest of em are going to have to fight it out in the middle east.

[rondog]

People are going to fight over religion no matter what. thousands of years and hundreds of millions of dead have proved this. It will not change. The only thing we can do is to keep the most dangerous and most controversial and the most widely known deadly killers apart...being Christianity and islam.

We were already here so the rest of em are going to have to fight it out in the middle east.

I've never understood the human need to believe in imaginary "supreme beings". I believe in what I can see and hear. If all these "gods" were visible and actually interacted with us humans, then I'd believe in them too. Come and see me in person, float around off the ground or flit about on your little wings, whip up a miracle or two, and I'll believe in ya! Point up at the clouds and say "God and Heaven are right there", and I'll say "yeah, sure they are".

But when people just believe in "some big guy in the sky" and believe the books (written by other humans) with the "writings and words" of these imaginary "supreme beings" are absolute law, and are willing to slaughter millions of their fellow humans because "their god said to", or "it is written", I kinda shake my head and walk away. I personally think religions of any kind is nothing more than organized insanity, and the most efficient means to control and fleece the gullible.

Members of the "civilized religions" always scoffed at the "tribal heathens" that worshipped big stone gods and dieties, but at least those things were a real, physical object to look at and not just something in their imagination.

Yeah, guess you could say I'm a non-believer. And these nutcase Muslims damn well better not try to take over THIS country!

This is not meant to offend ANYONE. If you believe in whatever/whoever you believe in, well, good for you. Just don't demand that I believe in the same thing or understand why you do. And don't even THINK of persecuting ME because I don't! I'll shoot back.

[Ronin13]

I've never understood the human need to believe in imaginary "supreme beings". I believe in what I can see and hear. If all these "gods" were visible and actually interacted with us humans, then I'd believe in them too. Come and see me in person, float around off the ground or flit about on your little wings, whip up a miracle or two, and I'll believe in ya! Point up at the clouds and say "God and Heaven are right there", and I'll say "yeah, sure they are".

But when people just believe in "some big guy in the sky" and believe the books (written by other humans) with the "writings and words" of these imaginary "supreme beings" are absolute law, and are willing to slaughter millions of their fellow humans because "their god said to", or "it is written", I kinda shake my head and walk away. I personally think religions of any kind is nothing more than organized insanity, and the most efficient means to control and fleece the gullible.

Members of the "civilized religions" always scoffed at the "tribal heathens" that worshipped big stone gods and dieties, but at least those things were a real, physical object to look at and not just something in their imagination.

Yeah, guess you could say I'm a non-believer. And these nutcase Muslims damn well better not try to take over THIS country!

This is not meant to offend ANYONE. If you believe in whatever/whoever you believe in, well, good for you. Just don't demand that I believe in the same thing or understand why you do. And don't even THINK of persecuting ME because I don't! I'll shoot back.

+100! I agree- and honestly I always ask the extremists (not Muslims cuz I ask with a .45 or 5.56) "If God spoke to Moses, why did he do it when he was all alone? Why not talk to Moses among a crowd of 5, or 10 others, then there would be no question? I mean, I could drop 5 hits of acid and say God talked to me, but my friends would just ask 'Where'd you get the drugs man?'"

[rondog]

+100! I agree- and honestly I always ask the extremists (not Muslims cuz I ask with a .45 or 5.56) "If God spoke to Moses, why did he do it when he was all alone? Why not talk to Moses among a crowd of 5, or 10 others, then there would be no question? I mean, I could drop 5 hits of acid and say God talked to me, but my friends would just ask 'Where'd you get the drugs man?'"

Dude - if you're gonna drop 5 hits of acid, you'd better make sure God's got a room in a good nursing home lined up to take care of your veggie ass for the rest of your life!

I know you're just kidding, but that stuff is evil, whoever invented it should be castrated. My stepkids had a friend that turned himself into a jellyfish with that shit.

[Irving]

Rondog, read 1984 by Orson Wells.

[Elhuero]

Rondog, read 1984 by Orson Wells.

[ROFL2]