09/16/06 Silencer shoot (Update pics pg. 3) [Archive] - Colorado AR-15 Shooters Club Discussion Forums

MPfiveengineer

09-12-2006, 20:41

What time is the shoot?

And is us one lil' can NoOb's invited? :P

Of coarse you are. I have said this many times but anyone is welcome to come to the shoot. The one thing I don’t want is someone showing up wanting to shoot an unsuppressed firearm, but since it is public land I can't really stop anyone. If you want to shoot just bring ammo and I am sure we will let you try our stuff.

I was thinking we meet at McD's in Woodland Park at 9:30 unless any of you have a better idea.

roman gnome

09-12-2006, 20:46

That would work for me. If you guys decide on a different time just let me know.

robsterclaw

09-12-2006, 22:42

Is anyone bringing a .45? I've been thinking of getting an HK .45 compact (when the wifey let's me) but I want to get a silencer for it, and I wonder if a silenced .45 is decently quiet enough, or if I'm better off getting a 9mm, or a .40.

MPfiveengineer

09-12-2006, 22:54

I hope it is not just 4 of us WTH is that? [poke]

I have at least 7 guys from silencertests.com coming. :mrgreen: I think Muzzleflash said he was coming also. Does anyone want to grill, and if so do any of you guys have a portable gas grill?

Is anyone bringing a .45? I've been thinking of getting an HK .45 compact (when the wifey let's me) but I want to get a silencer for it, and I wonder if a silenced .45 is decently quiet enough, or if I'm better off getting a 9mm, or a .40.

At least one guy is bringing a .45 USP with a suppressor (I think its an SWR HEMS2). You can judge for your self on Saturday but suppressed .45's are loud compared to a 9mm or even a .40 cal. Most people who do shoot suppressed .45's shoot them "wet" which means they add an ablative such as water or gel to help cool and contract the gasses and thus making the suppressor quieter. The down side to this is that the ablative either evaporates or gets blown out the suppressor after a mag or two, it is also very dirty and gets crap all over you and your gun. Most .45 suppressors need to be shot "wet" in order to be hearing safe without ear protection where most 9mm's can be shot dry with no problem.

MPfiveengineer

09-12-2006, 23:02

Also I just took possession of this today and you AR guys are welcome to try it on your gun. It is a Yankee Hill .223 suppressor that uses Sound Tech's baffle stack. I have not fired it yet but topherseven has one on his gun also and it is awesome. It makes an AR sound about like a 10/22.

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/8059/1161642os6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

chrisguy

09-12-2006, 23:17

Silencer shoot...

You know I'll be there.

I will be there and I have a %&$#^$&%&$&ing hard drive that is going to DIE!

I have at least 7 guys from silencertests.com coming. :mrgreen: I think Muzzleflash said he was coming also. Does anyone want to grill, and if so do any of you guys have a portable gas grill?
...
At least one guy is bringing a .45 USP with a suppressor (I think its an SWR HEMS2).

Also I just took possession of this today and you AR guys are welcome to try it on your gun. It is a Yankee Hill .223 suppressor that uses Sound Tech's baffle stack. I have not fired it yet but topherseven has one on his gun also and it is awesome. It makes an AR sound about like a 10/22...

[popcorn] [ohno] [popcorn]

Please tell me somebody will have a camera.

HunterCO

09-13-2006, 08:09

I have at least 7 guys from silencertests.com coming. :mrgreen: I think Muzzleflash said he was coming also. Does anyone want to grill, and if so do any of you guys have a portable gas grill?

Thats great I only have two cans so far my AWC Raider .223 and my newest can the LWC Predator .22.

I will bring one of my AR's, my M16 and my walther anybody is welcome to shoot my toys. I also am going to bring a 50 rnd box of subsonic .223 loads I made.

[postal] [postal]

KarlPMann

09-13-2006, 10:18

I have two also. A 9mm suppressor that can fit either an UZI, a MAC11, or any gun with the Sionics 9MM threads. I also have a 22 can that fits the factory threads on an Intratec TEC22-T. I will bring both and the guns of course. I have 22 subsonic loads but no 9MM subsonic. If you want to shoot any of them, just bring some factory ammo. Karl.

samuraii

09-13-2006, 17:25

If I can get down there in time I will be coming. Bringing the Socom Mark 23 and USPc 45 and not to mention the can. :)

MPfiveengineer

09-13-2006, 19:12

I have 22 subsonic loads but no 9MM subsonic. If you want to shoot any of them, just bring some factory ammo. Karl.

I have about 2K rounds of 9mm subsonic if anybody needs any I will sell some for what it cost me. The Federal 147gr I got for about $8 a box from Sportsman’s guide and it works really well in carbines. I also have some Special K subsonic from Alabama Ammo that was $200 for 1K so about $10 a box, it is suppose to be the quietest 9mm subsonic on the market. You guys are also welcome to just try a few rounds.

If I can get down there in time I will be coming. Bringing the Socom Mark 23 and USPc 45 and not to mention the can. :)

Wow I thought you dropped of the planet. I hope you are able to make it.

samuraii

09-14-2006, 07:24

Yeah it feels like I did...my new contract has me working 10+ hour days with a 2 hour commute padded on both sides. :roll:

Anyway hope to see you guys there.

MPfiveengineer

09-15-2006, 07:24

One of the other guys coming is bringing a grill. I am going to get some meat tonight. :mrgreen:

samuraii

09-15-2006, 10:58

Did someone say cheesy brats? :P

KarlPMann

09-15-2006, 12:41

Ummm, yeah? Did you say "Johnsonville Cheesy Brat's"? :twisted: Karl cheesy Mann. :roll:

Marlin

09-15-2006, 15:57

You all have fun, I'll be standing on a roof. :roll:

roman gnome

09-15-2006, 19:00

Damn Marlin, you always get the fun jobs! [abused]

MPfiveengineer

09-15-2006, 20:19

Ok we got a grill, hamburgers, hotdogs, and 3 different kinds of Bratwurst, including cheese. See you guys at 9:30a.

The 2006 Colorado Silencer Shoot, we came, we shot, nobody herd a freakin thing.
[wink]

HunterCO

09-15-2006, 20:57

I bet I will hear Karl sucking down a few cheesy brats. :mrgreen: Truck is loaded execpt the guns of course see you all in the AM. [postal]

MPfiveengineer

09-15-2006, 21:43

I bet I will hear Karl sucking down a few cheesy brats.

What is the current exchange rate for cheese bratwurst vs. Uzi mag dumps?

KarlPMann

09-16-2006, 05:51

1 cheesy brat = 1 mag. :P
I need to eat somehow. :roll: I just got home from work, I'm taking my nap now. Karl. :cry:

KarlPMann

09-16-2006, 09:35

I guess it's time to go. :roll: Karl thequietone Mann.

2ndChildhood

09-16-2006, 10:18

I guess it's time to go. :roll: Karl thequietone Mann.

Translation:

I live closer to an official shoot location than anyone else Nyah! Nyah! [poke]

KarlPMann

09-16-2006, 17:02

[roll]

And a fun shoot it was. A nice peaceful day at the range. :P Oh, and there were cheesy brats galore. :twisted: Karl.

Marlin

09-16-2006, 18:23

Oh, no way could You have had as much fun as I did. :P

:roll:

roman gnome

09-16-2006, 19:03

That was a great day and shoot, we'll have to have more of those.

HunterCO

09-16-2006, 19:09

Here are the pics I took had a great time except as usual I forgot sunscreen and am a french fry. :cry:

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MPfiveengineer

09-16-2006, 20:52

:cry: :cry: :cry:

20 rounds through the new can and here is what happened.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9821/1161647bg5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

MPfiveengineer

09-16-2006, 21:14

Thanks to everyone who showed up and made this a great shoot.

2ndChildhood

09-16-2006, 21:37

:cry: :cry: :cry:

20 rounds through the new can and here is what happened.

Ouch! What happened? Can not perfectly centered? Came loose?

Otherwise, it looks like a fine shoot. Lots of nice hardware.

KarlPMann

09-17-2006, 04:45

Ouchies :cry: sorry. Send back to factory ASAP. Karl.

MPfiveengineer

09-17-2006, 11:44

Ouchies :cry: sorry. Send back to factory ASAP. Karl.

You got that right.

Alucard the silencertest member made some videos of the shoot that he is currently editing I will post a link to them when he post them.

7idl

09-17-2006, 15:13

speaking of damaged goods.....where's the pics of the infamous HDD ?

robsterclaw

09-17-2006, 16:09

A nice day, yummy bites, great guns. Looks like fun! I couldn't make it since I played Camel (cigarettes) Casino. At midnight Friday night and was in 1st place when I went to sleep. I knew then I had a good chance at being in the top 20 and winning $1,500. So I planned on sleeping in and missing the shoot.

Bad thing, I really wanted to see all the toys, especially the .45 silenced! Good thing, Christmas shopping is covered because I'll have a $1,500 check coming in October or November. :mrgreen: Sure looks like you guys had fun. [postal] [sg1]

MuzzleFlash

09-17-2006, 18:32

:cry: :cry: :cry:

20 rounds through the new can and here is what happened.
Ooooh that left a mark! What can was it and how was it mounted?

Sorry I couldn't make it this time. Way too much "in the hole" with domestic responsibilities after taking off all that time for the rainey Ft. Morgan event.

Looks like you all had a nice, quiet time :)

MPfiveengineer

09-18-2006, 07:04

Ooooh that left a mark! What can was it and how was it mounted?

It is a Yankee Hill .223 quick detach suppressor. It uses Sound Technologies baffle stack. It was mounted to my Vector 33K. When I bought the gun I had Vector specially thread the gun 1/2x28 instead or the HK metric threads so I could use my incoming AR suppressor. Neither the suppressor nor the QD flash hider came loose so I think the problem may be that Vector's threads are not concentric. I am going to send the gun and the can off to find out.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1848/1161648jt8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

alucard

09-18-2006, 13:39

First, I used a Canon SD 400. It is a digital camera, that happens to take video, so you can not watch this video and use it for sound comparison test. It will do you no good, for example: in the video the AR-15 sounds almost the same as a P22 walter, and they were not even close. The mic will cut out any "really loud" sounds so that it does not blow.
But if you listen very carefully when im shooting the Uzi with trident can, I put it on single shot, and the first three shots are subsonic, and the next three are supersonic. you can kind of hear the sonic crack that goes on for a while after I shoot.
You really have to experience it in person to get the real effect, cause video is always worthless.

Anyways: Here it is, it is 30Mb so if you have a slow connection, it will take a while:
(Right click and save)
http://www.korgon.com/ryder/Guns/CO%20Silencer%20Shoot%2006.wmv

Man, I realized after the video that I blink a lot when shooting. You can really see it when I'm shooting Mp5's beretta with the trident can. I need to work on that.
I'm sure a lot of my blinking was atribbuted to shooting Hunters full auto M4 and the gas going through the chraging handle straight into my eye... I blinked alot after that, and got some sunglasses also...

I learned alot, but not enough... some many questions that I think of after wards, but this was very fun.

And the hotdogs and cheese brats were good too!!!

I will definatley be at dragon mans on the 24th, see you guys there.

alucard

09-18-2006, 13:59

I was happy when I got to compare my Glock 21 KKM Precision barrel and SWR H.E.M.S. version 1 directly with a HK USP with a AWC Nexus version one. (Both have a version 2 out now) I had the guy hold each pistol in each hand, he would shoot his, and then mine. I stood about 4 ft away. Used the same ammo. first we did it Dry, then we wet the cans down. Each time my H.E.M.S. one was louder then the Nexus. and same results when they were wet.

So I called Joe at SWR, and he is going to take care of my H.E.M.S. for me. I love his customer service. He is really a great guy to work with.

All I have to do is send it in, and he is going to "regut" it with H.E.M.S. 2 for me for free! Whoo hoo

Also, any body know the guy who had the AWC Nexus, with a HK USP and HK Mark 23? I would like to get in contact with him and do another direct comparision some time when I get teh new H.E.M.S. 2.

chrisguy

09-18-2006, 18:16

Sweet! Thanks for signing up and posting the vid alucard. Welcome.

MPfiveengineer

09-18-2006, 21:24

Alucard, it is good to have you as a member of this board. These guys need to realize that going through life with hearing protection is no way to live :P .

I am really glad to hear about your new HEMS2. Joe really goes above and beyond the call for his customer service. Whenever I am looking for a new can, SWR is the first place I look. Yankee Hill may give me some $hit on my warranty since a gunsmith did not install my flash hider :roll: .

The other guy with the .45 can you are referring to is Samurai. He seems to be a very busy guy and does not post a lot on this board.

Thanks for doing the video. By the time you videoed the 10/22 it was filthy and I could not get much of a burst through it, you will have to catch me earlier next time.

PsychoI3oy

09-18-2006, 21:58

The lack of hearing protection is understandable and indeed the whole point of this get-together.

The lack of eye protection in the video, however...

MPfiveengineer

09-18-2006, 22:08

The lack of eye protection in the video, however...

Alucard is the only one in the video who fired a weapon without eye protection :roll: . He will get it right next time :cool: .

KarlPMann

09-19-2006, 00:46

I wasn't paying attention. My mistake. It IS required at all club sanctioned shoots!!! :roll: Karl.

alucard

09-19-2006, 09:42

Yeah, I will have eye protection from now on. Lesson learned.

I wish I would have got video when you were shooting the 10/22 and it was clean also. And I wish I could have got vidoe of Hunters full auto M4.

samuraii

09-19-2006, 09:49

This was a fun shoot. Thanks MPfiveengineer for the trigger time. And if you ever want to get rid of that AA 10/22 stock let me know. ;)

Also was going to see if you have tried that DU Pont Teflon Multi-use lubricant? It’s supposed to help the 10/22 keep working after quite a few bricks.

So I called Joe at SWR, and he is going to take care of my H.E.M.S. for me. I love his customer service. He is really a great guy to work with.

All I have to do is send it in, and he is going to "regut" it with H.E.M.S. 2 for me for free! Whoo hoo

That is awesome...when you get your can back let me know and we can compare them again. I'm interested to hear how much of a difference it makes.

I'll send you a pm with my contact info.